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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ron on December 29, 2005, 11:51:38 PM
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Thanks to Tony M for the interview for the site. Much appreciated!
Here is some info and notes on Mike Morris, and his decision to go natural at the 2005 Mr. Olympia Wildcard contest.
http://getbig.com/iview/morris051229.htm
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Good interview. I miss ya, Mike. :'(
I don't know if anyone's gonna think any of that bullshit, but I just wanna say up front that it's not.
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im curious as to why his kidneys were being stressed out. is it from diuretics or from high blood pressure due to roids? i really dont see steroids as being a direct cause to stressing out the kidneys that much
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The guy sounds honest enough and at least had the good sense to stop before things got really bad. Hope he doesn't suffer any long term health problems.
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2.5 grams of test/week....ain't nothing but a peanut :o
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he has my respect..hope it can inspire others to have a life after steroids.
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2.5 grams of test/week....ain't nothing but a peanut :o
Where did he mentioned that?
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That's the first interview I've ever read where a pro actually sounds truthful about his steroid use.
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the honesty is refreshing
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hahahaha, what a candy ass he sounded like, "i can train chest but then i can't train anything else for a couple of days", hahahahahahahahahaha.
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Finally...some honesty about the drug issue.
It's refreshing to read about real doses on the pro-level, as opposed to the
desperate-for-credibility lies about "2 cc's per week..I swear it..it's genetics". ::)
LOL
As his natural test levels return to normal he'll definitely add some more size, but at this point in time cortisol is prolly stripping away most of his gains from the sauce.
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Really, good job Mike.
Came out and said doses are 3,000 + this is good, scare some of these f'in kids from getting in the sport with naive dreams of only taking a littel bit, but soon it just snowballs into more and more.
So for all the youngsters that want to stick yourself everyday for years on end.... ::)
Ask Mike how much you need to save up for hospital bills later in life
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Saw him at the Natll's and he looked like pooh.
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I appreciate the honesty too but it goes to show (at least to me), how much of a difference taking an abundance of steroids without much of break and doing small cycles (2) a year really makes.
I have a good friend that juices once a year for 12 weeks at about 750 mg a week. He looks amazingly good and although he never gains more than 7-10 pounds ever cycle, he keeps those gains untill his next cycle. He also doesnt get discouraged with stength loss after his cycle because his strength increase doesnt differ so much from that dose and length of cycle than what it was naturally, he just makes quality muscle mass gains.
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I appreciate the honesty too but it goes to show (at least to me), how much of a difference taking an abundance of steroids without much of break and doing small cycles (2) a year really makes.
I have a good friend that juices once a year for 12 weeks at about 750 mg a week. He looks amazingly good and although he never gains more than 7-10 pounds ever cycle, he keeps those gains untill his next cycle. He also doesnt get discouraged with stength loss after his cycle because his strength increase doesnt differ so much from that dose and length of cycle than what it was naturally, he just makes quality muscle mass gains.
Oh, quit making sense.
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Good job Mike, very inspiring!
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3750mg milligrams per week.. :o
we finally got someone who tells the truth..
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yeah he is so proud of being natural...... check the website out, no current photos there buddy!
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Its good that a pro is finally honest about his drug use, i wonder how many pros have high kidney values and still continue to use the juice.
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yeah he is so proud of being natural...... check the website out, no current photos there buddy!
yeah sorry...Mike and I will work on that.
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so how do roids have a direct effect on the kidneys? i know it effects the liver, but i never heard of it hurting the kidneys... sounds like alot of diuretics. even flex himself said that diuretics effected his kidneys rather then roids
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He is over the 4 grams a week !
What he mentioned was only the deca en test. He uses a oral next to that and the insuline en gh etc.
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diuretics dry out the body of water... the kidneys need water to operate... so how do roids take out the water from ones body? the only cases ive heard for kidney damage are excessive diuretic use not roids.
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Thanks for the nicely done and provocative interview.
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Oh, quit making sense.
Sorry.
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I appreciate the honesty too but it goes to show (at least to me), how much of a difference taking an abundance of steroids without much of break and doing small cycles (2) a year really makes.
I have a good friend that juices once a year for 12 weeks at about 750 mg a week. He looks amazingly good and although he never gains more than 7-10 pounds ever cycle, he keeps those gains untill his next cycle. He also doesnt get discouraged with stength loss after his cycle because his strength increase doesnt differ so much from that dose and length of cycle than what it was naturally, he just makes quality muscle mass gains.
750 mg a week is not a "small" cycle.
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That sad thing about this interview is that some idiots are going to try these dosages. I hope they don't and learn from other peoples experiences.
Mike is sending a strong message...best wishes Mike.
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Mike and got to know each other over the last 1 1/2 year and all I can say is that he is a great person. He is very honest, down to earth, and funny. I respect him greatly!!
All the best Mike
Your friend
TJ
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I don't know if anyone's gonna think any of that bullshit, but I just wanna say up front that it's not.
On promuscle a couple of guys are saying that MM was living the same "lifestyle" as Tom Prince i.e. that there were other substances that are more likely to have caused his kidney problems. Comments?
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yes mike is a really nice and honest guy
met him at the 2005 aussie gp this year
and spoke to him after the pre judging for a while
all the best ;D
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750 mg a week is not a "small" cycle.
considering that 400-600mg a week is a newb cycle
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mmmm
honrst interveiw...
hmmm im skeptical to that...
simply because with bb the honestly usually comes afterthey have wrecked themselves healthwise so the have no choice other than to be "honest"
a la milios synthol .. would he have been honest had he not nearly killed himself.. and the list goes on... prince.. flex... etc etc
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are there pics of him from that show?
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From the pictures on his website,he looked damn good at 98 North Americas.His waist really got out of control as a pro.How come everyone that turns pro totally switches what has worked for them and tries to put on 30lbs of muscle in a year?We 're really gonna see this current group of pros have some serious health problems and start dropping like flies.
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in my opinion the only anabolic steroid that screws with the kidneys is trenbalone. i took it for 4 weeks and my lower middle back(kidney area) hurt like hell. i couldn't even walk up stairs. i quit it immediately. i believe alot of the pros abuse tren for precontest to get hard as hell. i think its one of the dirtiest steroids out there and will never touch it again.
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Does anyone have those crazy pre-contest photos that was posted a long while ago? Was it Toronto?
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in my opinion the only anabolic steroid that screws with the kidneys is trenbalone. i took it for 4 weeks and my lower middle back(kidney area) hurt like hell. i couldn't even walk up stairs. i quit it immediately. i believe alot of the pros abuse tren for precontest to get hard as hell. i think its one of the dirtiest steroids out there and will never touch it again.
High blood pressure puts alot of strain on the kidneys. I doesn't have to be a substance in particular..hey a few buckets of KFC could do it...it depends on each individual.
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That was a refreshing interview. We should understand that active pros (for the most part) are not willing to discuss anabolic usage because it may endanger their endorsement opps or their liberty (steroid crackdowns going on everywhere).
Thanks Mike and best of health to you.
And Mike always got shafted at the NOC. He looked much better than Titus and Kamali in 03.
Special "Mike Fan" Ed
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That was a refreshing interview. We should understand that active pros (for the most part) are not willing to discuss anabolic usage because it may endanger their endorsement opps or their liberty (steroid crackdowns going on everywhere).
Thanks Mike and best of health to you.
And Mike always got shafted at the NOC. He looked much better than Titus and Kamali in 03.
Special "Mike Fan" Ed
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Jimmy M c'mon, a smart guy like you trying to compare the risks of bodybuilding drug abuse to eating KFC...wtf, c'mon, please.
If you mean some guys won't tolerate the high levels of drugs used the same, well, that is true.
I am thrilled a pro finally stood up and said enough of this insanity, my overall well being is more important and I refuse to quit the sport.
Hey Howard..I totally agree with you. I was just responding to a previous post that mentioned Parabolan effects the kidneys. ..
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Hey Howard..I totally agree with you. I was just responding to a previous post that mentioned Parabolan effects the kidneys. ..
Oh ok, how someone can be sure a certain drug will target certain organ tissue , now that is ignorant.
Hey Jimmy any plans to compete in 2006? Are you still with Parillo? What is happening in your bodybuilding career right now? Thanks, Happy New year, Howard
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We live to bodybuild not bodybuild to live. Big Mike stay healthy.
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Props to Mike for sharing.
"Would you consider competing outside the IFBB in some of the natural federations?
Yeah I would, but most of them require at least a year natural. I'm trying to get some input from natural bodybuilders about how they'd feel if I did steroids for 15 years, came off for a year and then competed naturally. I wouldn't want anyone to think I was cheating. If there was an organization where I could compete again naturally, I would love to. I just wouldn't want to get any bad press or bad vibes."
Ask Matt T. I'm sure a lifetime natural like him would not mind.
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Oh ok, how someone can be sure a certain drug will target certain organ tissue , now that is ignorant.
Hey Jimmy any plans to compete in 2006? Are you still with Parillo? What is happening in your bodybuilding career right now? Thanks, Happy New year, Howard
Well..my competition days are over.and my supplement line is coming..I have downsized alot and finaly have my "lines" back and I have been traveling doing appearances and lectures. It's much more rewarding to me at this time of my life. I shot for all the mags 3 mnoths ago in LA so look for them starting Feb. I have attached a few pics from them by Alex Ardenti (had a great time) and Robert Rieff. My product line will officially be ready to purchasse March 3rd but for those who ate busting my chops. Threy can go on ther now and order. It is a secure site, The graphics are rrady but those who have been taking them know what they are and do.
please visit my site for any questions, advice or just to chat and bounce some things off me.As everyone knows..I hold no punches.
The site is www.jimmymentis.com. please visit and it will be upgraded monthly.
Here are a few pics from 2 months ago. along with a poster that I will be speaking January 29th
Happy New Year to everyone!!!
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Jimmy, you retired?
Speak on this, please.
What was your reason?
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hi!
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Jimmy, you retired?
Speak on this, please.
What was your reason?
There were many reasons...but here is one of them. ...I look better...LOLOL. Hey, If you want get deeper...hit me with some questions. As many know me..I'll say it like it is.
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you a little like Arnold with smaller arms.
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There were many reasons...but here is one of them. ...I look better...LOLOL. Hey, If you want get deeper...hit me with some questions. As many know me..I'll say it like it is.
great physique bro keep up the good work and post ypour routine so everyone on here can try and copy it too
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I will post anything you guys need. I'm alway willing to help. Here's another pic taken by Mike Neveux last month.
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Good to see mentis in great shape,even not competing good to stay in shape and train hard.I saw him in late 80's at seaside hgts in jersey he looked like a building with feet,everyone turned when he walked by.
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Mentis,
i remember the impressive M&F cover you had circa 96
you look a bit different now.
how did your kidneys, liver and internal organs endure during those ?
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Mentis,
i remember the impressive M&F cover you had circa 96
you look a bit different now.
how did your kidneys, liver and internal organs endure during those ?
It's funny you say that.. the pics I posted above..I am only 5 pounds lighter than I was on the covers in 96.
I felt great then and I still feel great today. Ofcourse I look different, it's been 10 years ..cmon Dearth ...we all move forward. I'm not training as hard and paying more attention to my business which will go live at the Arnold Classic this March. MD will be the first magazine with some info before the launch.
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I'm glad you liked the shots Jimmy.
You should post that classic arms folded shot we took on the same day.
Alex
www.alexardenti.com
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I'm glad you liked the shots Jimmy.
You should post that classic arms folded shot we took on the same day.
Alex
www.alexardenti.com
Yes!! One of my favorites. Thanks for the great shots Alex.
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Still large and healthy look. ;)
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Mike didn't use Drugs and made a heap of MONEY from BB.
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Thanks to Tony M for the interview for the site. Much appreciated!
Here is some info and notes on Mike Morris, and his decision to go natural at the 2005 Mr. Olympia Wildcard contest.
http://getbig.com/iview/morris051229.htm
I have a lot or respect for Mike ! he answered a LOT of questions I always wanted to know.
keep up the great work Mike.