best Fat burner today ?

[JackTheRipper]

Eat 500 calories less a day and burn 500 calories through exercise daily. That 1000 calorie deficit is huge for someone under 200lbs.  A pound of fat is 3500 calories. Log the calories you eat with a diet app like Lose It. You should lose around 2 pounds a week. Keep protein up and don't go low carbs but moderate. That should spare muscle loss but it's really hard just to lose just fat as you get lean. Don't take supplements that act like mild speed that will make you nervous and jittery.

Blah blah blah. dude you train with one set per exercise

[Humble Narcissist]

10lbs on a fatty is different to 10lbs on an already lean bodybuilder with a high work load.

No doubt.

[Van_Bilderass]

True for a large weight loss. Not so for losing 10lbs.

The fatter you are the less muscle you lose on average on a huge deficit. When someone is lean and wants to lose the last 10lbs of fat is when that person might lose 9lbs of muscle vs 1lbs of fat, even with monstrous drug intake. And the more muscle you have the easier it is to lose it, because it's not "necessary."

[Humble Narcissist]

The fatter you are the less muscle you lose on average on a huge deficit. When someone is lean and wants to lose the last 10lbs of fat is when that person might lose 9lbs of muscle vs 1lbs of fat, even with monstrous drug intake. And the more muscle you have the easier it is to lose it, because it's not "necessary."

So a wrestler cutting weight before a match is losing all muscle?

[Van_Bilderass]

So a wrestler cutting weight before a match is losing all muscle?

Yes there's a high risk for it, don't you think? And don't many of them lose like 10% BW just in the last day or two, meaning water? I'm sure some get shredded but a lot of them just get skinny fat (relatively speaking) instead of cross striated like bb (yeah I know the drug confounder). If muscle is only lost after fat is exhausted they would all look like stage ready bodybuilders, albeit way smaller overall.

[joswift]

So a wrestler cutting weight before a match is losing all muscle?

pretty much
Muscles are 70% water, they dont actually lose any fibres but they loose volume

The amount of muscle fibres you have are set at birth, you dont gain any extra when gaining size, the ones you have adapt and grow bigger
Hypertrophy isnt hyperplasia

Most top guys are just water bloated but the water is help in the muscle with the aid of insulin and glycogen
Hence how much they shrink once they stop.

[Pet shop boys]

Primatene tabs (2) 200mg Caffeine, 81mg Asprin.  Buy all 3 at CVS or Walgreens.

Really?


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[Pet shop boys]

celery and protein shake only diet is good

For how long?




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[BEEFCAKE]

For how long?




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till you look awesome and feel like shit

[Rambone]

Walk 13 miles with Rob

[Marty Champions]

Gras clip, clay 2ft deep, pine needle for vit c but some pine tree will kill u

[GymnJuice]

Gras clip, clay 2ft deep, pine needle for vit c but some pine tree will kill u

Do you stick the pine needles in the glutes or the shoulder?

[Humble Narcissist]

pretty much
Muscles are 70% water, they dont actually lose any fibres but they loose volume

The amount of muscle fibres you have are set at birth, you dont gain any extra when gaining size, the ones you have adapt and grow bigger
Hypertrophy isnt hyperplasia

Most top guys are just water bloated but the water is help in the muscle with the aid of insulin and glycogen
Hence how much they shrink once they stop.

Unfortunately, none of us were born with as much muscle fibers as we would like.

[Taffin]

Move to Gaza

[Pet shop boys]

till you look awesome and feel like shit

Usually feeling like shit comes first ...sadly



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[Van_Bilderass]

Unfortunately, none of us were born with as much muscle fibers as we would like.

There's a small amount of data where the scientists claimed some bodybuilders had a huge increase in actual muscle fibers, all their fibers were "normal sized." But that is probably just wishful thinking and some outlier research. I think there's too little actual research on the topic, and what actually happens when you megadose GH and other PEDs for a decade or whatever.

[King Shizzo]

[Humble Narcissist]

There's a small amount of data where the scientists claimed some bodybuilders had a huge increase in actual muscle fibers, all their fibers were "normal sized." But that is probably just wishful thinking and some outlier research. I think there's too little actual research on the topic, and what actually happens when you megadose GH and other PEDs for a decade or whatever.

Didn't they claim that they could produce hyperplasia in a person through very torturous stretching for long periods of time?

[Van_Bilderass]

Didn't they claim that they could produce hyperplasia in a person through very torturous stretching for long periods of time?

If I'm not mistaken it was a study on some bird or other animal. I think they severed something so one muscle was in a permanent stretched position. DC training and Parillo training had that very hard stretching but the duration is so short. Could still be beneficial for hypertrophy.

[Humble Narcissist]

If I'm not mistaken it was a study on some bird or other animal. I think they severed something so one muscle was in a permanent stretched position. DC training and Parillo training had that very hard stretching but the duration is so short. Could still be beneficial for hypertrophy.

No one would themselves through that torture though.

[Van_Bilderass]

No one would themselves through that torture though.

You mean the animal experiments? Of course not but it would be interesting to know if it can at all happen regardless of type of intervention, I think. And like I said it's something I wonder about large bodybuilders, if it's ALL just hypertrophy of fibers with all the drugs long term. Some speculate about this supposed increase in sarcoplasma in muscles, some think this is obviously something that happens, nonprotein components increasing in muscle, but all it is is a theory. Then there are those who assume it's a fact that GH causes hyperplasia, no, just a theory.