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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Injury and Rehabilitation => Topic started by: Karl Kox on June 18, 2006, 12:03:04 PM
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guys i need your help. For about the past two or three weeks the arch in my feet hurt when ever I walk mostly in the morning when i first get up or after I have been sitting for a while the I get up to walk. But after I walk for a few minutes It's ok.
Please help !
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From http://www.foot.com/info/cond_arch_pain.jsp
Arch Pain / Arch Strain
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Definition
The term arch pain (often referred to as arch strain) refers to an inflammation and/or burning sensation at the arch of the foot.
Cause
There are many different factors that can cause arch pain. A structural imbalance or an injury to the foot can often be the direct cause. However, most frequently the cause is a common condition called plantar fasciitis.
The plantar fascia is a broad band of fibrous tissue located along the bottom surface of the foot that runs from the heel to the forefoot. Excessive stretching of the plantar fascia, usually due to over-pronation (flat feet), causes plantar fasciitis.
The inflammation caused by the plantar fascia being stretched away from the heel often leads to pain in the heel and arch areas. The pain is often extreme in the morning when an individual first gets out of bed or after a prolonged period of rest.
If this condition is left untreated and strain on the longitudinal arch continues, a bony protrusion may develop, known as a heel spur. It is important to treat the condition promptly before it worsens.
Treatment and Prevention
This is a common foot condition that can be easily treated. If you suffer from arch pain avoid high-heeled shoes whenever possible. Try to choose footwear with a reasonable heel, soft leather uppers, shock absorbing soles and removable foot insoles. When the arch pain is pronation related (flat feet), an orthotic designed with a medial heel post and proper arch support is recommended for treating the pain. This type of orthotic will control over-pronation, support the arch and provide the necessary relief.
If the problem persists, consult your foot doctor.
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it may be plantar fasciatis as YMBL posted. I've had it and your symptoms sound similar to mine. I had a very nad case where i needed to go to physical therapy and get implants for my shoes. I had to wear the implants for several months.
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I had a mild case that developed from playing basketball in worn out shoes (playing indoors keeps the sneaks looking new, but the cushioning wears out). Damn it was painful.
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mine was from my cleats. Kinda old nd i mis-stepped and screwed up my feet badly.
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Thanks guy the pain is pretty bad I guess I will go see my doctor. I wear flip flops all the time even when I work out. Do yall think that could have something to do with it ? The only time I do not wear them is when I am at work.
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i would switch to a shoe that gives you more arch support. I would still see a Dr. just to make sure it doesnt get worse.
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i would switch to a shoe that gives you more arch support. I would still see a Dr. just to make sure it doesnt get worse.
Ya I will thanks again for the Info.
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no problem. Keep us posted.
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no problem. Keep us posted.
yeah cause dr. migs here really gives a shit :)
LOL
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yeah cause dr. migs here really gives a shit :)
LOL
i feel his pain, unlike yours which seems to come from your anus! ;)
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So we should add empath to your resume now? ;D
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sure. Then maybe i can hook up with Jennifer love Hewitt so we could have pyschic/empathic kids
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guys i need your help. For about the past two or three weeks the arch in my feet hurt when ever I walk mostly in the morning when i first get up or after I have been sitting for a while the I get up to walk. But after I walk for a few minutes It's ok.
Please help !
I have a job where my whole body hurts the next morning. I think when landing on your feet allot, like when you step off of something. The weight from your body can irritate your feet. I'm on my feet all the time at work, so I definitely have some comfortable shoes. There's a chance that could be your problem to. Shoes last for up too three hundred miles, then you'll have to get a new pair. Foot pain is usually because of old shoes that you’re wearing. If you can’t buy some new shoes at that time, try to buy new shoe insoles.
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ya I went to the doctor it turns out I have Plantar Facitis (probably did not spell that right) any way he told me some stuff that will help wanted to give ma a shot of cortisone ( probably did not spell that right either ) in my foot and I said not only no but hell no.
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Good shoes will help, as well as calf stetching. You can also massage the plantar fascia origin with your toes extended (very painful but does help). Sit with your knee crossed over the other and pull your toes up towards your knee, the use your knuckles or a massage tool to beat the hell out of the origin by the heel. Doing this for 5-10 mins a day will help quite a bit.
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ya I went to the doctor it turns out I have Plantar Facitis (probably did not spell that right) any way he told me some stuff that will help wanted to give ma a shot of cortisone ( probably did not spell that right either ) in my foot and I said not only no but hell no.
don't be a pussy dude. it doesn't hurt. I've had it done in my knee, it feels great after.
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Cortisone shots are not usually very effective anyway and can weaken the fascia leading to tear.
The problem occurs when you sleep - most people plantarflex their feet; this shortens the fascia and it scars in a shortened state. Then when you stand up in the morning it re-tears, setting up a daily cycle of injury. The first thing to try is keep your foot dorsiflexed at night - there is a sock that can help: http://www.thesock.com/ During the day an orthopedic boot can help to immobilize it.
It is important to tell whether it is actually your arch, though. Make sure the doc you saw is sure. Posterior tibialis tendon problems can become chronic and debilitating if not treated. Early on, arch supports are the treatment. Advanced painful arch collapse is treated with tendon transfer, osteotomy or fusion.
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Cortisone shots are not usually very effective anyway and can weaken the fascia leading to tear.
The problem occurs when you sleep - most people plantarflex their feet; this shortens the fascia and it scars in a shortened state. Then when you stand up in the morning it re-tears, setting up a daily cycle of injury. The first thing to try is keep your foot dorsiflexed at night - there is a sock that can help: http://www.thesock.com/ During the day an orthopedic boot can help to immobilize it.
It is important to tell whether it is actually your arch, though. Make sure the doc you saw is sure. Posterior tibialis tendon problems can become chronic and debilitating if not treated. Early on, arch supports are the treatment. Advanced painful arch collapse is treated with tendon transfer, osteotomy or fusion.
the insoles he gave me hurt my feet
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the insoles he gave me hurt my feet
Karl,
Go to a shoe store that tends to have old people as a customer base. They should have birkenstock inserts that you can insert into what ever shoe (not open shoes like flip flop though) you are wearing. Have the people working there to "fit" you for the inserts.
My workout partner, husband and I ALL had Planter F. We used the inserts for a few months and now none of us have Planter F. Mine was so bad I would limp in the mornings for awhile.
Onlyme had terrible Planter F and I believe he got some relief from the inserts.
The are about 50.00. WELL WORTH the money.
Get them I guarantee they will help you :D
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Karl,
Go to a shoe store that tends to have old people as a customer base. They should have birkenstock inserts that you can insert into what ever shoe (not open shoes like flip flop though) you are wearing. Have the people working there to "fit" you for the inserts.
My workout partner, husband and I ALL had Planter F. We used the inserts for a few months and now none of us have Planter F. Mine was so bad I would limp in the mornings for awhile.
Onlyme had terrible Planter F and I believe he got some relief from the inserts.
The are about 50.00. WELL WORTH the money.
Get them I guarantee they will help you :D
Thanks Stella I will look into it. I limp all morning as well and sometimes at work. I do a lot of walking and it can be a pain in the ass.
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Thanks Stella I will look into it. I limp all morning as well and sometimes at work. I do a lot of walking and it can be a pain in the ass.
I guarantee they will help you or I'll give you the $50.00 you spend on them :D
Hurry up. I want to hear how they are working out for you.
WEll, did you get them yet? >:(
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DID YOU GET THE INSERTS KARLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL >:(
:D
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Lol no I have been very busy with work and . But I did get new shoes for work and that has helped. Now I will start back to school the 29th and I will have to stand a lot also so we will see.
thanks for asking !
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I had the same thing. What I did was keep a tennis ball next to my bed. In the morning before I would walk around i would roll the ball on the floor with the arch of my foot.
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ya I do something like that, Thanks
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Karl,
Go to a shoe store that tends to have old people as a customer base. They should have birkenstock inserts that you can insert into what ever shoe (not open shoes like flip flop though) you are wearing. Have the people working there to "fit" you for the inserts.
My workout partner, husband and I ALL had Planter F. We used the inserts for a few months and now none of us have Planter F. Mine was so bad I would limp in the mornings for awhile.
Onlyme had terrible Planter F and I believe he got some relief from the inserts.
The are about 50.00. WELL WORTH the money.
Get them I guarantee they will help you :D
I got them. Some days I could barely walk. I was seeing a foot doctor whose main advice is that you have to stop running and lifting. He would tape up my foot for a week and that helped a lot. The foot doctor wanted $550 for custom made othotics. I was thinking what if I got them and I didn't like the way they felt in my running shoes. I got the Birkenstock inserts. I found that I can't use them in running shoes because it causes the sneakers to slip in the heel. In walking sneakers and my work boots they work great. The control excessive pronation. the cork material that they are made of feels hard to the touch. When you place your full body weight on them they feel like your are walking on soft pads. I just got them so lets see if they improve my horrible arch pain. I think I got it from doing full range calf work and running. Something had to give in this 47 year old body.
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I got them. Some days I could barely walk. I was seeing a foot doctor whose main advice is that you have to stop running and lifting. He would tape up my foot for a week and that helped a lot. The foot doctor wanted $550 for custom made othotics. I was thinking what if I got them and I didn't like the way they felt in my running shoes. I got the Birkenstock inserts. I found that I can't use them in running shoes because it causes the sneakers to slip in the heel. In walking sneakers and my work boots they work great. The control excessive pronation. the cork material that they are made of feels hard to the touch. When you place your full body weight on them they feel like your are walking on soft pads. I just got them so lets see if they improve my horrible arch pain. I think I got it from doing full range calf work and running. Something had to give in this 47 year old body.
Great! Did you have someone "fit" you for them? I had 2 different pairs, one pair for my athletic shoes (w/a lower arch) and one pair for enclosed shoes w/a heel (w/a higher arch [you probably would just need the lower arch one depending on your natural arch]).
I'm not a runner but my husband is and he used the inserts and was helped (his PF is gone too).
I never have to wear mine at all anymore.
I'm very anxious to hear if these help you - if they do, maybe Karl Kox will finally get some >:(
:)
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Stella, So far they have helped. I can't imagine using them in my running shoes. Like I said it causes the heel to slip in my running shoes. The foot doctor taped up my foot really tight and it helped. I now have the inserts and so far so good. I'm walking in the morning with little pain. That coming from 6 months of incredible pain in the morning. No, I didn't have them fitted. I ordered on the web.
I'm trying to figure out how they helped. I think they helped for two reasons. First they control excessive pronation that stretch/twist the arch to the point of tearing. The second is that the arch insert might actually stretch the arch in a beneficial way from walking on the insert. This could add flexibility to my old abused arch that could be tight from age, running, and calf work in the gym.
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it may be plantar fasciatis as YMBL posted. I've had it and your symptoms sound similar to mine. I had a very nad case where i needed to go to physical therapy and get implants for my shoes. I had to wear the implants for several months.
I also has plantar fasciatis in the right foot after extensive walking (4-5 miles per day over several months). I took a break from extensive walking for a month. Also, at night, at the suggestion of my chiropractor brother-in-law, I rulled a tennis ball under the arch of my bare foot at night while watching TV. Give it a try, it worked for me.
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my doc suggested I use a frozen water bottle
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Stella, So far they have helped. I can't imagine using them in my running shoes. Like I said it causes the heel to slip in my running shoes. The foot doctor taped up my foot really tight and it helped. I now have the inserts and so far so good. I'm walking in the morning with little pain. That coming from 6 months of incredible pain in the morning. No, I didn't have them fitted. I ordered on the web.
I'm trying to figure out how they helped. I think they helped for two reasons. First they control excessive pronation that stretch/twist the arch to the point of tearing. The second is that the arch insert might actually stretch the arch in a beneficial way from walking on the insert. This could add flexibility to my old abused arch that could be tight from age, running, and calf work in the gym.
happy to hear they are working :)
maybe Karl Kox will try them one day >:( :)
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LOL
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I have been using them at work for awhile now. I am completely pain free but I'm sure the injury to the arch is still lurking waiting for an opportunity to come back. The arch surports really helped. Thanks Stella.
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I have been using them at work for awhile now. I am completely pain free but I'm sure the injury to the arch is still lurking waiting for an opportunity to come back. The arch surports really helped. Thanks Stella.
That is wonderful! Thanks for the update oldtimer1 :)
maybe Karl Kox will try them one day >:(
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:P My feet have not hurt for a long while. Thank god. But if they start again I will try them.
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:P My feet have not hurt for a long while. Thank god. But if they start again I will try them.
OK >:(
I'm glad you're feeling better too :)
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OK >:(
I'm glad you're feeling better too :)
Thank You, I am kinda supprized they hurt for so long.