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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Stavios on February 24, 2011, 10:50:28 AM
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stopped taking test 3 weeks ago fellas, I am now on trenbolone-equipoise only
weight dropped A LOT (8 pounds actually), but I have been sick so maybe I am only dehydrated a bit.
I'll wait a few days to tell you guys how it goes.
I am dieting another month with "low" carbs before adding insulin for 2 weeks to see how I look fully carbed.
weight as of this morning was 200 lbs (very depleted tho)
having a cheat day today so I should be 207-208 tommorow normally.
no libido loss yet (reason I am doing this is I want to achieve the middle east ripped look)
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So you're going to be without test for 18 weeks?
Btw, why don't you give us some pics to see how you look like in the beginning of your prep?
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So you're going to be without test for 18 weeks?
Btw, why don't you give us some pics to see how you look like in the beginning of your prep?
I don't have any pics, I might take some soon.
but that's the thing, I am not at the beginning of my prep.
I have been dieting for 5-6 months already, slowly ( I was only dieting the week and eating whatever I wanted on the weekend)
yes, I will go without test for the whole 18 weeks, and I will add som anadrol the last month as Buselmo and Van Bilderass suggested to give me a "full" look without the bloat.
(at this point I'll be fully carbed also since I'll start insulin at around 12 weeks out , maybe at 8 weeks out depending on how low my bodyfat will be)
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Cool man! please keep a log so we can look at your progress..but make sure none of your competitors are reading it. lol
Whats your daily diet?
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Cool man! please keep a log so we can look at your progress..but make sure none of your competitors are reading it. lol
Whats your daily diet?
I'll keep this thread upated for sure, don't know when the pics will come in but surely soon enough.
my diet is like this at the moment.
Monday trough Friday:
meal 1: 16 egg whites
Meal 2: 60gr protein
Meal3: 300 gr lean ground beef with veggies like brocoli or celeri sticks.
meal4: 200gr lean ground beef with 4 slices of ezekiel bread (I make myself some kind of hamburgers)
TRAIN
meal 5: 60 gr protein with a 100gr carbo drink
meal6: either 2 tuna cans, or another protein shake depending if I am hungry or not
Saturday: I eat whatever I want, I try to only eat 4 meals tho since those are complete shit meals (pizza, fries, whatever I want).
I am not sure when I will cut back on the saturday cheat day, probably when I'll add the insulin since I might eat more carbs the rest of the week.
don't know yet it's a big experiment this year
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Good luck bro. I want to try a cycle without test. I feel like everytime I use test I got so freaken bloated (bloofy) I don't like equipose though so I'm not sure what I would use as a base. I wonder how a higer dose of masteron would compare to equipose.
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Good luck bro. I want to try a cycle without test. I feel like everytime I use test I got so freaken bloated (bloofy) I don't like equipose though so I'm not sure what I would use as a base. I wonder how a higer dose of masteron would compare to equipose.
my face looks 10 times better when I drop the test for sure !
I'd try masteron but too expensive and not dosed strong enough at 100mg per ml :s
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Ok...that actually looks kinda interesting, i was also "forced" to drop test 2 weeks back and honestly look a lot better now... 8)
you have gh there too or is it just trenbolona equipona?
i sure as hell will follow your progress if you only keep us posted ;)
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Ok...that actually looks kinda interesting, i was also "forced" to drop test 2 weeks back and honestly look a lot better now... 8)
you have gh there too or is it just trenbolona equipona?
i sure as hell will follow your progress if you only keep us posted ;)
I have gh in there but only at 2iu for the moment so it wasn't worth mentionning at this dose. I started at 10iu for december and january but I started lacking funds due tu having more bills to pay, so I dropped the dose until I can buy some more boxes.
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any ai's? Also, any "fatburners"?
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any ai's? Also, any "fatburners"?
I haven't taken any fatburners since last wek because I was sick and I had enough trouble sleeping already.
I'll start them again tommorow.
Clen at 50 mcg and ephedra at 60mg a day
I'll up the doses a bit every weeks.
as for cardio, I was doing tabata but I injured my hamstring a bit a the club during a fight so I am taking it easy with the legs for another week, I'll start cardio again in 2 weeks.
but I am already 200 lbs so (in my pics from my last show I was 193, to give you an idea of my current condition)
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keep it up. 8)
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hope you dont peak too soon, in theory you should be ripped to shreds.... one of my friends follows the very long drawn out diet approach and he always comes in nails, not sure about the no test, be intrested to see how you turn out
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hope you dont peak too soon, in theory you should be ripped to shreds.... one of my friends follows the very long drawn out diet approach and he always comes in nails, not sure about the no test, be intrested to see how you turn out
I still have quite a lot of bodyfat to lose and I'll actually up the calories as the show approches so I shouldn't peak too soon.
hard to say, I experiment !
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Keep it up Stav ;)
Im not using Test in my cycle now and feel fine and results are coming great :)
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I'm so afraid to go no test :(
But I'm very bloofy. I just can't imagine a world without test!
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I'm so afraid to go no test :(
But I'm very bloofy. I just can't imagine a world without test!
I was afraid too but I feel it's the only way to get the look I want !
as long as I keep my libido, it will be find but I think it's all in the head
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I was afraid too but I feel it's the only way to get the look I want !
as long as I keep my libido, it will be find but I think it's all in the head
why dont you use only like 250mg test every week..plenty of libido+main male hormone in system=WIN
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I was afraid too but I feel it's the only way to get the look I want !
as long as I keep my libido, it will be find but I think it's all in the head
X2, it's all in the head
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Keep it up Stav ;)
Im not using Test in my cycle now and feel fine and results are coming great :)
Agreed...test is great, but you can definitely get amazing results without it.
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I have like a billion cc's of cyp and sustanon. I just never considered going without it. What are the main differences other than just dropping water?
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I have like a billion cc's of cyp and sustanon. I just never considered going without it. What are the main differences other than just dropping water?
That's pretty much the only reason.
that and I have problems with some bitch tits these days that won't go away so maybe dropping the test will help.
but I agree that off-season, test is the way to go.
cheap cheap cheap and does the job
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Hows strength stavios?
are you getting stronger with this diet + aas regime? Some people get stronger when dieting...i actually got stronger in the beggining of my last years diet, but after couple months strength went downhill.
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Why not take a couple of Provirons a day. The DHT will keep you from getting lethargic and it will keep your libido strong. It gives you a good non aromatizing androgen in you which is important if you want to feel good when you drop test.
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Why not take a couple of Provirons a day. The DHT will keep you from getting lethargic and it will keep your libido strong. It gives you a good non aromatizing androgen in you which is important if you want to feel good when you drop test.
Yes!
Note to Stavios 8).
As far as i "know" :D European guys use a lot of proviron, im assuming middle eastern guys too.
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Why not take a couple of Provirons a day. The DHT will keep you from getting lethargic and it will keep your libido strong. It gives you a good non aromatizing androgen in you which is important if you want to feel good when you drop test.
Yeah that might be a good idea, budget is tight tho for this prep so that's why I wasn't taking it.
I like to use proviron in most of my cycles usually !
Meso: Strenght is great, I try not to push too hard since I injured my shoulder once again 2 weeks ago, but in most of the exercices I did this week the weights were still up a bit !
I am like you, I always get stronger as I diet for a show (exept for squats)
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Hey stavy,
Ever try to place your carbs in meal 1 and in your pretraining meal (kinda like what chris aceto recco's ) instead of pre and post workout?
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Hey stavy,
Ever try to place your carbs in meal 1 and in your pretraining meal (kinda like what chris aceto recco's ) instead of pre and post workout?
I'm gonna start doing this too.
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My shoulder is fahked too. I cry warming up with 45lb dumbells for presses and anything past 75 hurts so bad I can't even perform the rep properly. Any advice other than ortho surgery or epic nubain and advil overdose?
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Hey stavy,
Ever try to place your carbs in meal 1 and in your pretraining meal (kinda like what chris aceto recco's ) instead of pre and post workout?
that's my problem with aceto, sometimes I hear him say put your carbs meal 1 and pretraining (post workout is BS)
than in some posts I hear him say to put the carbs post workout
what gives ?
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My shoulder is fahked too. I cry warming up with 45lb dumbells for presses and anything past 75 hurts so bad I can't even perform the rep properly. Any advice other than ortho surgery or epic nubain and advil overdose?
what I have is a subluxation, so everytime it hurts I go to my chiropractor.
he put it back into place, I ice it for 2-3 days, than I start training heavy again.
but I haven't been able to do a over-head press for the last 7 years, exept if it's on a machine and I do it very slowly
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My shoulder is fahked too. I cry warming up with 45lb dumbells for presses and anything past 75 hurts so bad I can't even perform the rep properly. Any advice other than ortho surgery or epic nubain and advil overdose?
see a good naturopath
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see a good naturopath
gayer than a naturopath ;D
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gayer than a naturopath ;D
dude I was just like you guys couldnt do shit because of my shoulder and as soon as i told him that he knew exactly my problem and replaced my shoulders. had to train very light for 2 weeks and now, boom i can do heavy behind the neck presses
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dude I was just like you guys couldnt do shit because of my shoulder and as soon as i told him that he knew exactly my problem and replaced my shoulders. had to train very light for 2 weeks and now, boom i can do heavy behind the neck presses
I tought a naturopath was giving you pills and things like that like bee pollen or something
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I tought a naturopath was giving you pills and things like that like bee pollen or something
nah dude I dont think they give pills or maybe only natural products, no lab medication, they only heal you with natural stuff.. NATURopath lol
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that's my problem with aceto, sometimes I hear him say put your carbs meal 1 and pretraining (post workout is BS)
than in some posts I hear him say to put the carbs post workout
what gives ?
Well i know he likes to do carbs earlier in the day.
He also mentions that when dieting that its better to eat pro/fat post workout because carbs pwo shuts down some fat burning hormones in your body.
I remember reading something he wrote where he said he liked to do carbs in the 1st meal because glycogen stores are low and then pre workout so they can be utilized during your training.
Offseason I know he recommends carbs pre and pwo for sure.
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Just found this on his q and a.........
I think I wrote about that years ago and it became the norm. Here is the deal: When u finish a workout the body increases fat burning hormones that are floating in the blood ...more or less the minute u take in carbs, those fat burning hormones go down. so............yea it makes sesne to eat only protein post training when dieting...THEN have carbs later
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Just found this on his q and a.........
never heard about that before, I see his logic but I don't know..
but I'll start training in the morning soon so I'll have the carbs at the first meal, wich is also going to be my pre workout meal
so no more problems ;D
I feel I burn fat faster this way since I eat protein only the rest of the day
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ok fellas, I hesitated before posting those but what the hell.
Keep in mind that I am still 18 weeks out there so of course I don't have a lot of separation and waist is kinda bloated
I am 212 in these shots, after 2 days of carbing up (I was 200 yesterday morning wich was way too low at this point)
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lookin good! big shoulders and a sick V taper. how tall are you stav??
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Nice shoulders and arms.
And for 18 weeks out you're in an awesome spot.
Plus for being as tall as you are you look huge for only being 200lbs!
Keep up the good work bro!
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lookin good! big shoulders and a sick V taper. how tall are you stav??
5'10 1/2-5'11 I'd say !
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Look awesome bro - as Taylor says great looking delts and taper - for 18 weeks out you look fantastic mate.
Will you use any "extra" AI's when you load on drol ? ..Sorry I dont know the protocol that is used with "filling out" and drol - are extra AI's needed at all or no ?
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wow stav. you have come a long way since I first joined.
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ok fellas, I hesitated before posting those but what the hell.
Keep in mind that I am still 18 weeks out there so of course I don't have a lot of separation and waist is kinda bloated
I am 212 in these shots, after 2 days of carbing up (I was 200 yesterday morning wich was way too low at this point)
wow man looking great..
As for Chsis Aceto. He always says that he works differently with his clients, thus the confusion with post and pre workout carbs...
He believes though, that PREworkout carbs are more important than POSTworkout...not eating carbs post workout speeds up fat-loss but for small periods. use this method as a tool in your diet but dont overdo it (many days)..
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i started using T3 at 50mcg split 2x a day
oooo does it make a difference 8) 8)
i think i have hypothyroidsm or wtver its called gotta get my blood test done to find out for sure
i am neverrrrrrrr tired or angry now
crazzyyyyy energyy
just over all good 8)
btw its pharm grade ;)
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Stav, something many European and Arabs do as far as i know to achieve that hard look, is staying clean couple WEEKS before the show (many of the shows are supposed to be tested).
This way, I believe they shed the bloofy androgenic look and come in grainy. I have never tried that though.
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looking good,arms seems a bit flat, any back and legs shots?
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looking good,arms seems a bit flat, any back and legs shots?
Are you really Dimitar Dimitrov? If its you, you could offer some good advice. 8)
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reason I am doing this is I want to achieve the middle east ripped look
don't forgot to abuse the shit out of diuretics for a month before your contest ;)
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don't forgot to abuse the shit out of diuretics for a month before your contest ;)
A whole month out? when do they stop the diurectics, night before contest?
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ive seen some crazy shit regarding drying out,,, including guys drinking dry white wine whilest doing there cardio for the last week or so
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NO TESTOSTERONA!!!!!!
for the middle eastern look ;)
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ive seen some crazy shit regarding drying out,,, including guys drinking dry white wine whilest doing there cardio for the last week or so
it is said levrone loved his jack daniels pre contest.. no surprise, alcohol pump up blood everywhere, veins get crazy and it act like a diuretic, at least for me
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Fuck yeah, Stav. Looking good, man. That's sweet that you're shooting for the shredded European/Middle Eastern look too. Whatever the fuck those guys are doing looks phenomenal.
Definitely keep us posted though, bro. I might hit up the no-test for a month or two and see how it goes. If libido drops I have Cialis that I never had to use, plus some test prop and suspension I could bang back if I got scared.
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I dont get why not using 200-250mg only of test for normal body function.. way too little dose to get water retention but still 10x more test than the normal male.. just my opinion tho
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A whole month out? when do they stop the diurectics, night before contest?
they stop it right after the contest... when they're on their way to the ER
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this guy went behind the stage after posing for 2 minutes and started projectile vomiting all over the place... then they took him away in the ambulance... probably the infamous "stomach flu" on the day of the contest ;)
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this guy went behind the stage after posing for 2 minutes and started projectile vomiting all over the place... then they took him away in the ambulance... probably the infamous "stomach flu" on the day of the contest ;)
I dont know if i should laugh or feel bad.
So buselmo would u say in the middle east that the thermo drugs and diuretics are more important to bodybuilders then the aas itself?
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they stop it right after the contest... when they're on their way to the ER
LOL ;D
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I dont know if i should laugh or feel bad.
So buselmo would u say in the middle east that the thermo drugs and diuretics are more important to bodybuilders then the aas itself?
nope... they're all just as important.
just try to mention the "safe" diuretics that people on the boards use like dyazide and aldactone and you'll hear "what? what's that?"... you say diuretic... to get rid of water... they'll say "OH! you mean lasix!"... LOL... they only know lasix and burinex here
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they stop it right after the contest... when they're on their way to the ER
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I broke a finger working at the club, so i'll try to work around it but it might fuck up my "prep"
advices for the youngster: go to fucking school so you don't have to do a retarded job like "doorman"
I'm fucking pissed right now, 2 times I fuck something up in 2 weeks...
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I broke a finger working at the club, so i'll try to work around it but it might fuck up my "prep"
advices for the youngster: go to fucking school so you don't have to do a retarded job like "doorman"
I'm fucking pissed right now, 2 times I fuck something up in 2 weeks...
Were'nt you told to stop fingering all the hot pussy ;) no wonder you broke a finger
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I broke a finger working at the club, so i'll try to work around it but it might fuck up my "prep"
advices for the youngster: go to fucking school so you don't have to do a retarded job like "doorman"
I'm fucking pissed right now, 2 times I fuck something up in 2 weeks...
did you try to poke someone's glass eye??? WTF man?!
use machines and work around it... no need to stay out of the gym... try some high volume, short rest kind of training to work around... it'll give you a chance to see if that shit will work for you like it did for me... Disgusted would be the expert on this. PM him to see what he suggests...
don't even attempt to lift heavy for now... it'll fuck up your finger more...
remember my friend faisal who i posted pics of? the arabian champ? yeah... 2 months ago he slipped in the bathroom, his palm got stabbed by a sharp piece of metal that was sticking out the door trying to break his fall... cut his hand from mid palm to mid forearm.... luckily no nerves were fucked and no major arteries were cut.... he couldn't even close his hand for 2 weeks... he still trained... with 15 lb dumbbells and light machine work for really high reps and no rest (30 secs between sets) and trained for 2 hours... i saw him today... dude is still as big as he was but leaner...
so don't lose hope!!! try something new while keeping the intensity.
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did you try to poke someone's glass eye??? WTF man?!
use machines and work around it... no need to stay out of the gym... try some high volume, short rest kind of training to work around... it'll give you a chance to see if that shit will work for you like it did for me... Disgusted would be the expert on this. PM him to see what he suggests...
don't even attempt to lift heavy for now... it'll fuck up your finger more...
remember my friend faisal who i posted pics of? the arabian champ? yeah... 2 months ago he slipped in the bathroom, his palm got stabbed by a sharp piece of metal that was sticking out the door trying to break his fall... cut his hand from mid palm to mid forearm.... luckily no nerves were fucked and no major arteries were cut.... he couldn't even close his hand for 2 weeks... he still trained... with 15 lb dumbbells and light machine work for really high reps and no rest (30 secs between sets) and trained for 2 hours... i saw him today... dude is still as big as he was but leaner...
so don't lose hope!!! try something new while keeping the intensity.
Top quality advice :)
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did you try to poke someone's glass eye??? WTF man?!
got in a fight with 8-9 dude from a street gang, I was alone for about 30 seconds with them before the other doormen came out.
so I punched hoever I could, one of the fuckers had a tazer also.
but yeah I'll try to train around it, I'll just have a problem doing back movemnts I think.
I will do chest tonight, I can do pec-deck and machine presses without using my fingers too much
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got in a fight with 8-9 dude from a street gang, I was alone for about 30 seconds with them before the other doormen came out.
so I punched hoever I could, one of the fuckers had a tazer also.
but yeah I'll try to train around it, I'll just have a problem doing back movemnts I think.
I will do chest tonight, I can do pec-deck and machine presses without using my fingers too much
Damn Stavios, be careful man.
in 3 weeks finger will be brand new lol, i broke my finger once and i know how it is, follow buselmos advice and dont panic. you have 18 whole weeks and youre lean.
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yeah you are right guys, I'll stop panic and try to workout with super high intensity !
I just fucking hate this job so much haha, I fuck my training up for 100$ a night :-\
hopefully I don't have to do this for too long
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yeah you are right guys, I'll stop panic and try to workout with super high intensity !
I just fucking hate this job so much haha, I fuck my training up for 100$ a night :-\
hopefully I don't have to do this for too long
Just stick to your diet, thats the main thing.
Train like Buselmo said and before you know it, you'll be feeling better.
Hopefully you can get another job soon! Good luck on that bro!
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yeah you are right guys, I'll stop panic and try to workout with super high intensity !
I just fucking hate this job so much haha, I fuck my training up for 100$ a night :-\
hopefully I don't have to do this for too long
work for fucking garda or something.. or barman
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work for fucking garda or something.. or barman
I want to quit the clubs altogether..
Garda pays like 13$ an hour, that's why I don't like those jobs
I am payed more than that working for the city but I only make 33h per week at the city so that's why I need something else.
I applied for a job at Pinel, they should get back at me shortly
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Just stick to your diet, thats the main thing.
Train like Buselmo said and before you know it, you'll be feeling better.
Hopefully you can get another job soon! Good luck on that bro!
yeah I'll do, it just have to find a day to train my back :-\
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yeah I'll do, it just have to find a day to train my back :-\
Buy some of those hooks! That way you dont have to grab it with your fingers.
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I want to quit the clubs altogether..
Garda pays like 13$ an hour, that's why I don't like those jobs
I am payed more than that working for the city but I only make 33h per week at the city so that's why I need something else.
I applied for a job at Pinel, they should get back at me shortly
cool just dont do doorman lol.. having to handle a bunch of degenerate trying to start shit every night aint worth 100$ a night.. werent you going back to school not long ago?
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gh15 (Gunter Schlierkamp) uses these, maybe they can help you while you're injured:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/krisgethin9.htm
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you know who i wanna fucking kill ?
the fucking asian bouncer at Globe on st-laurence i swear im gonna kill this guy one day.......
and the guys who do doorman do it as a side job on the weekend it's decent CASHHHHHH i guess 3-400$ ?
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you know who i wanna fucking kill ?
the fucking asian bouncer at Globe on st-laurence i swear im gonna kill this guy one day.......
and the guys who do doorman do it as a side job on the weekend it's decent CASHHHHHH i guess 3-400$ ?
LOL isn't the globe a fucking restaurant ??? why would they need a doorman, let alone an asian one ;D
in mtl you do more $$$ being doorman because you can accept tips, but here on the southshore clubs owner don't like us having tips so we have to refuse it. ( I am not often at the door anyway, usually I am inside the club)
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prep for west qc champ?
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prep for west qc champ?
yop my first try in the open light-heavies, my last shows were as a junior !
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LOL isn't the globe a fucking restaurant ??? why would they need a doorman, let alone an asian one ;D
in mtl you do more $$$ being doorman because you can accept tips, but here on the southshore clubs owner don't like us having tips so we have to refuse it. ( I am not often at the door anyway, usually I am inside the club)
it's a supper club! like most places on st-laurence
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it's a supper club! like most places on st-laurence
I went there when I was 17 with an old girlfriend for Valentine's day.
it was fucking expensive ;D
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I trained with 30 seconds rest and did exercise where I didn't need to hold much weights, it was 2 amazing workouts.
Chest was easy, because on the machines I can still press with my palm without closing my hands.
for the back workouts I used the "ab straps" to do my pulldowns, so I only pulled with my elbows
good shit 8)
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I trained with 30 seconds rest and did exercise where I didn't need to hold much weights, it was 2 amazing workouts.
Chest was easy, because on the machines I can still press with my palm without closing my hands.
for the back workouts I used the "ab straps" to do my pulldowns, so I only pulled with my elbows
good shit 8)
good work brother!
keep it up!
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198.5 this morning
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Keep it up Stav ;)
Im not using Test in my cycle now and feel fine and results are coming great :)
Im not using test either and i never felt better..results also are coming up pretty good too.
Deca+Drol are a nice combo :) :)
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OK, I've skimmed through this thread and have only one comment.
Some of you have a fear of testosterone that is so misguided and makes such little sense I really don't know how to even begin to address it.
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OK, I've skimmed through this thread and have only one comment.
Some of you have a fear of testosterone that is so misguided and makes such little sense I really don't know how to even begin to address it.
i hear you, test works great and is the cheapest most accessible roid out there. makes sense to run it yearr ound, in every cycle.
but i think youd agree that you by no means HAVE TO run it. tren only, for example, is a kick ass cycle, about as good as it gets.
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i hear you, test works great and is the cheapest most accessible roid out there. makes sense to run it yearr ound, in every cycle.
but i think youd agree that you by no means HAVE TO run it. tren only, for example, is a kick ass cycle, about as good as it gets.
I agree, you don't "Have" to run it but 9 times out of 10 people who say they react poorly to test have no idea what they're doing. That's not knocking anyone, it's just stating the obvious. Although tren-a is my favorite steroid, testosterone is by in large the most all-around effective and most important steroid.
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I agree, you don't "Have" to run it but 9 times out of 10 people who say they react poorly to test have no idea what they're doing. That's not knocking anyone, it's just stating the obvious. Although tren-a is my favorite steroid, testosterone is by in large the most all-around effective and most important steroid.
the #1 reason I cut test completely right now, is that I try to reduce the bitch tits as much as I can.
they were getting out of control and letro, arimidex or whatever wouldn't get them down.
now the puffiness has reduced of about 50% since I dropped the test.
BUT, this week I am starting to feel the lost in fullness. After a workout I have a nice physique but the rest of the day I don't " feel " as big.
but it's no big deal, the main objective now was to dropped as much fat as I can, after that I'll either reintroduce test in low dose, or anadrol. probably anadrol.
and insulin also but that's only at 5% bf
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the #1 reason I cut test completely right now, is that I try to reduce the bitch tits as much as I can.
they were getting out of control and letro, arimidex or whatever wouldn't get them down.
now the puffiness has reduced of about 50% since I dropped the test.
BUT, this week I am starting to feel the lost in fullness. After a workout I have a nice physique but the rest of the day I don't " feel " as big.
but it's no big deal, the main objective now was to dropped as much fat as I can, after that I'll either reintroduce test in low dose, or anadrol. probably anadrol.
and insulin also but that's only at 5% bf
Since I cut Test i have not had any of the androgenic sides that i would get before, acne on the shoulders,hair growth on my back :-[, serious aggression :'( etc, ive never had gyno or any symptons of it and Test did give me great results and it works very well ;) but since now ive used Deca as a base my results have been much more to my liking, ive gotten bigger not at a fast rate but its all been lean gains, ive no andro sides that i had on test, my libido is fine, TBH Test made my libido out of control ;D my strengh is improving at a steady rate and my workouts are great, some gear works better on some than others, back in the 70's Deca was a base for cycles and even today in Europe or Asia it still is :)
I know these days high doses of Test as a base are very popular on the boards and in the USA and yes it works but its not the only way.
Stav i know what you mean about feeling less big despite looking much better, since i stopped test ive felt the same, my physique as never looked better and im at my biggest ever and the feedback from people at the gym, friends etc has been very positive, ive been using Anadrol at 100mg per day and it makes me feel much fuller and pumped, it doesnt take away the feeling of ''not feeling big'' but it does help, plus its great to train on Anadrol ;)
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Since I cut Test i have not had any of the androgenic sides that i would get before, acne on the shoulders,hair growth on my back :-[, serious aggression :'( etc, ive never had gyno or any symptons of it and Test did give me great results and it works very well ;) but since now ive used Deca as a base my results have been much more to my liking, ive gotten bigger not at a fast rate but its all been lean gains, ive no andro sides that i had on test, my libido is fine, TBH Test made my libido out of control ;D my strengh is improving at a steady rate and my workouts are great, some gear works better on some than others, back in the 70's Deca was a base for cycles and even today in Europe or Asia it still is :)
I know these days high doses of Test as a base are very popular on the boards and in the USA and yes it works but its not the only way.
Stav i know what you mean about feeling less big despite looking much better, since i stopped test ive felt the same, my physique as never looked better and im at my biggest ever and the feedback from people at the gym, friends etc has been very positive, ive been using Anadrol at 100mg per day and it makes me feel much fuller and pumped, it doesnt take away the feeling of ''not feeling big'' but it does help, plus its great to train on Anadrol ;)
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yeah I am just waiting a bit before using anadrol because the contest is still 17 weeks away and I want to run it at high doses near the show with slin ;D
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Yes!
Note to Stavios 8).
As far as i "know" :D European guys use a lot of proviron, im assuming middle eastern guys too.
lol you right
a lot of guys at the Middle East use proviron as an AI and as replacement for Adex ( i know you can't even compare them, but Adex and overall AI's are really expensive and rare at the Middle East)
But i don't think it's the reason for the look
(btw post example of the look you aiming for, because i might be wrong?)
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update now almost 16 weeks out:
I posed after the gym yesterday in the locker room, my friend who is a competitor said:
"damn... that's the worst I have even seen you look, your muscles look dead. You look lean but... like a beach body or something"
I kind of agree because I was looking better at 218-220, I cut food too much and too quick (disgusted told me that also)
haha so I am taking time off the diet until monday, eating whatever I want, then monday I am starting training at 6am before work.
I'll shoot some slin after waking up, eat, train, take shake, shake and a bagel at 10 am, meal at 12pm, then zero carbs the rest of the day.
Knowing my body, this will take me to 215 at the same bodyfat once I regain my fullness. But getting down to 198 after that might be a mistake... if I do a show I'll do it for fun in the heavies I don't know yet.
the heavies aren't a strong class anyway at local shows
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update now almost 16 weeks out:
I posed after the gym yesterday in the locker room, my friend who is a competitor said:
"damn... that's the worst I have even seen you look, your muscles look dead. You look lean but... like a beach body or something"
I kind of agree because I was looking better at 218-220, I cut food too much and too quick (disgusted told me that also)
haha so I am taking time off the diet until monday, eating whatever I want, then monday I am starting training at 6am before work.
I'll shoot some slin after waking up, eat, train, take shake, shake and a bagel at 10 am, meal at 12pm, then zero carbs the rest of the day.
Knowing my body, this will take me to 215 at the same bodyfat once I regain my fullness. But getting down to 198 after that might be a mistake... if I do a show I'll do it for fun in the heavies I don't know yet.
the heavies aren't a strong class anyway at local shows
Good plan brother!
Just get ripped and let the scale fall wherever it does.
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Aceto said many times: If you don't feel like a bodybuilder in the gym, you don't eat enough.
I definitly don't feel like I am a bodybuilder in the gym, very small pumps
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Aceto said many times: If you don't feel like a bodybuilder in the gym, you don't eat enough.
I definitly don't feel like I am a bodybuilder in the gym, very small pumps
Even without eating THAT much, im surprised you got such little pumps being on all the drugs that you were on......
Odd...................
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Even without eating THAT much, im surprised you got such little pumps being on all the drugs that you were on......
Odd...................
yeah it's fucked up bro.
it's worst since I dropped the testosterone
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yeah it's fucked up bro.
it's worst since I dropped the testosterone
do you cycle your carbs during the week?
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yeah it's fucked up bro.
it's worst since I dropped the testosterone
what exactly are you on??
well with the slin and increasing the food/carbs, im sure you wont have a problem with getting a sick pump anymore.
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yo stav, dont let people fuck with your head, so what your looking flat, you already knew that. you look the same now as you did in thos epictures you posted a few days ago. your not going to change noticeably in a couple days. keep doing what your doing.
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yo stav, dont let people fuck with your head, so what your looking flat, you already knew that. you look the same now as you did in thos epictures you posted a few days ago. your not going to change noticeably in a couple days. keep doing what your doing.
Exactly, keep doing what you are doing
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Exactly, keep doing what you are doing
change are weekly , flat it's a partial phase , you look like shit , you look amazing , you look worst , you look even better, normal , no worry
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Dont panic Stavios...but yea you shouldnt be that flat 16 weeks out...maybe 6 weeks out but not 16..
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Being flat is no big deal, in-fact it doesn't matter at all. If you're flat 16wks out, 8wks out, 2wks out, it simply doesn't matter. The only time flatness matters is when you're on stage.
People worry about being flat during the diet a lot more than they should...just like a "pump" it's generally meaningless.
All that matters is you're losing adequate amounts of body fat and holding as much muscle as possible in the process...this is all that matters.
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Everything is back under control guys, I'll just have to eat a bit more food from now on. 8)
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Everything is back under control guys, I'll just have to eat a bit more food from now on. 8)
so whats the new diet look like?
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This thread should be on the G&O...
Stavios, you've always been a positive poster with great potential and highly likable.
I wish well and hope you succeed.
I'll be in montreal late june / early july. if it fits our schedule, I'll be happy to pro tan you personally, no wrinkles or cracks will be left uncovered (no homo).
My buddy jean Daniel is also competing during that time frame.. .
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so whats the new diet look like?
pretty much something like this, I ate a bit like that this fall and I was FULL and looking good at about 218. it was kind of a lean bulk based on Troy Alves diet from Aceto:
5h45: 1 cup oats (or some other carb don't know yet) , 8 egg whites
gym
7h45: 10-15 iu slin with 4iu hgh
carb drink (100gr carbs) with 60 gr protein
10h: bagel with a shake
12: 200 gr horse meat
1 cup rice (maybe 2 depending how the fat will melt)
17h: 200 gr horse meat with some green veggies
21h: either chicken or fish, 200 gr also, maybe with some olive oil don't know yet.
I know I will look great eating like that, but I don't know if the condition will get better. But I don't give a fuck as it's still 16 weeks away and I am lean already.
if I don't lean that much, I'll do 2 days like that, followed by 1 day low carbs.
then 2 like that followed by 2 days of low carbs when the show is getting closer.
I'll play around with food, I am good with that.
always been good with my own diet adjustments (exept for this time haha)
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pretty much something like this, I ate a bit like that this fall and I was FULL and looking good at about 218. it was kind of a lean bulk based on Troy Alves diet from Aceto:
5h45: 1 cup oats (or some other carb don't know yet) , 8 egg whites
gym
7h45: 10-15 iu slin with 4iu hgh
carb drink (100gr carbs) with 60 gr protein
10h: bagel with a shake
12: 200 gr horse meat
1 cup rice (maybe 2 depending how the fat will melt)
17h: 200 gr horse meat with some green veggies
21h: either chicken or fish, 200 gr also, maybe with some olive oil don't know yet.
I know I will look great eating like that, but I don't know if the condition will get better. But I don't give a fuck as it's still 16 weeks away and I am lean already.
if I don't lean that much, I'll do 2 days like that, followed by 1 day low carbs.
then 2 like that followed by 2 days of low carbs when the show is getting closer.
I'll play around with food, I am good with that.
always been good with my own diet adjustments (exept for this time haha)
Looks great bro!
Best of luck on your way to the road to ripped city! haha.
i like the bagels while dieting too. i dont know why, but i do!
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This thread should be on the G&O...
Stavios, you've always been a positive poster with great potential and highly likable.
I wish well and hope you succeed.
I'll be in montreal late june / early july. if it fits our schedule, I'll be happy to pro tan you personally, no wrinkles or cracks will be left uncovered (no homo).
My buddy jean Daniel is also competing during that time frame.. .
haha I made the thread here because the knowledgable people will come here anyway, I don't want to have a 20000 posts debate in my thread on wether or not should I replace meal 1-3 and 5 by 2 sticks of Kit-Kat ;D
haha hit me up when you are in montreal bro, hopefully i'll be there !
I am thinking of applying in the GRC but I think it's a looooooooong journey with lots and lots of tests (psychological, physique, your criminal past, they check up your frequentations and shit... fucked up !)
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haha I made the thread here because the knowledgable people will come here anyway, I don't want to have a 20000 posts debate in my thread on wether or not should I replace meal 1-3 and 5 by 2 sticks of Kit-Kat ;D
haha hit me up when you are in montreal bro, hopefully i'll be there !
I am thinking of applying in the GRC but I think it's a looooooooong journey with lots and lots of tests (psychological, physique, your criminal past, they check up your frequentations and shit... fucked up !)
LOL @ "Frequentation" ;D
Stavios, my dad worked as a Canadian fed for 26 years :)... it's not that hard to get in.. all you need to do is pass the psychometric test and the physical, if you're presentable, mentally stable, you're in.
Hit me up I can help you.
Build/train/eat/rep POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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conditioning wins shows
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haha I made the thread here because the knowledgable people will come here anyway, I don't want to have a 20000 posts debate in my thread on wether or not should I replace meal 1-3 and 5 by 2 sticks of Kit-Kat ;D
haha hit me up when you are in montreal bro, hopefully i'll be there !
I am thinking of applying in the GRC but I think it's a looooooooong journey with lots and lots of tests (psychological, physique, your criminal past, they check up your frequentations and shit... fucked up !)
bro im the cleanest guy, destroyed the first exam, they sent me a letter telling me I will received a bunch of papers and a date for the physical exam, this was in may, no answer yet.. and all i got is 2 speeding tickets lol.. maybe im just a lil bit too young tho..20.. but the guy said that was not a problem..
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bro im the cleanest guy, destroyed the first exam, they sent me a letter telling me I will received a bunch of papers and a date for the physical exam, this was in may, no answer yet.. and all i got is 2 speeding tickets lol.. maybe im just a lil bit too young tho..20.. but the guy said that was not a problem..
haha I'm not the cleanest guy that's the thing.
but I have never been arrested or anything
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I would take some test prop If I was in ur shoes. To each his own
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I would take some test prop If I was in ur shoes. To each his own
I know right, only for fullness I'd do it but I'll use a-drol in a few weeks.
as for my libido, it has never been higher than it is now so no need for that for this particular reason 8)
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OK, it's my second day back on slin...
last time I ever took insulin.... ever !!!
I don't know why my first few cycle of slin everything was fine, now I took only 8 iu this morning post workout, sipped on my 100gr carbs/60gr protein shake the 45 min after that..
boom... felt nauseus, sleepy,hot, dizzy...
WHAT THE FUCK !! I used 20iu without any problems a few months back..
sucks cause I look great on insulin
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OK, it's my second day back on slin...
last time I ever took insulin.... ever !!!
I don't know why my first few cycle of slin everything was fine, now I took only 8 iu this morning post workout, sipped on my 100gr carbs/60gr protein shake the 45 min after that..
boom... felt nauseus, sleepy,hot, dizzy...
WHAT THE FUCK !! I used 20iu without any problems a few months back..
sucks cause I look great on insulin
how long have you been off the slin?
it takes time to develop the resistance... first week you'll be sensitive, then 20 iu won't do shit. you just need time to get used to it.
10 iu my first day and i was a bit dizzy... 2nd time not so much... then 3rd time i did nothing, upped it to 15 iu... nothing again... and next week it's up to 20 iu... so it just takes time.
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last time I was on slin it was in october or november for 3-4 weeks !
I will start taking weekly pictures also ( I won't post them tho haha at least for now) cause I can't see shit by the mirror.
I always look the same in my eyes, comparaison pictures will be good
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last time I was on slin it was in october or november for 3-4 weeks !
I will start taking weekly pictures also ( I won't post them tho haha at least for now) cause I can't see shit by the mirror.
I always look the same in my eyes, comparaison pictures will be good
very true
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Hows the prep going bro?
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Hows the prep going bro?
it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha
I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%
fuck love handles ;D
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it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat water but that's fine haha
I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%
fuck love handles ;D
l-a-s-i-x
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it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha
I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%
fuck love handles ;D
everyone stores it in different places, i suffer the same affliction,,,, lasex wont fix it, all cardio and diet, and its the last spot for me to go.... i can have veiny abbs and still be soft round there....
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everyone stores it in different places, i suffer the same affliction,,,, lasex wont fix it, all cardio and diet, and its the last spot for me to go.... i can have veiny abbs and still be soft round there....
I have never been totally shredded from the back
this year I am destroying the fat over there trust me
I am on a mission
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it does come, long as u have plenty time to keep on dieting down... some people seem to get shredded right the way round quite easily tho, lucky bastards
if you had money to burn easy solution would be lypo, just remove those fat cells out of there all together, when i win the lottery i'll be straight there
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it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha
I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%
fuck love handles ;D
Sounds more like water than fat
what you are running atm?
what's your carbs intake?
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it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha
I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%
fuck love handles ;D
do lots of reverse hyper extensions and side bends.
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it's going very well at this point, I don't understand my lower back fat but that's fine haha
I am about 7% bf now I think, and I have love handles like a guy who is 12%
fuck love handles ;D
haha im the same way. I know im lean (super lean ) when my lower back fat is gone. Its stubborn as fuck.
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do lots of reverse hyper extensions and side bends.
And if he does a whole bunch of crunches his abs are gonna get really ripped too huh! ::)
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Sounds more like water than fat
what you are running atm?
what's your carbs intake?
nah, water just blurs your condition, fat can be grabbed.......... alot of competitors fool them selves into thinking there just holding water when in fact there probly a few weeks out of shape still
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Sounds more like water than fat
what you are running atm?
what's your carbs intake?
when I squeeze the skin it doesn't look like water, it's too thick
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when I squeeze the skin it doesn't look like water, it's too thick
Maybe its "loose skin"..? it will tighten up in time or when you carb up..
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And if he does a whole bunch of crunches his abs are gonna get really ripped too huh! ::)
yea actually. :)
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And if he does a whole bunch of crunches his abs are gonna get really ripped too huh! ::)
Extra work on abs or lower back seems to help...not dramatic changes but i believe it helps.
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Extra work on abs or lower back seems to help...not dramatic changes but i believe it helps.
Agree.. especially when visceral fat is an issue.. at least works for me..
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Agree.. especially when visceral fat is an issue.. at least works for me..
When i started out, Ive always watched pros training in their videos and talking about how they never trained abs in the "offseason" and that abs show "in the kitchen"..lol..they never mentioned hgh though. :D ::)
Anyway, I was overeating a lot trying to "bulk" did not do ANY ab work. my stomach always looked like shit...anyway log story, I have 1.5 yrs now I train my abs religiously eod and although there where some periods I was eating shittier than ever, my stomach was flat and tight with abs "showing".
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When i started out, Ive always watched pros training in their videos and talking about how they never trained abs in the "offseason" and that abs show "in the kitchen"..lol..they never mentioned hgh though. :D ::)
Anyway, I was overeating a lot trying to "bulk" did not do ANY ab work. my stomach always looked like shit...anyway log story, I have 1.5 yrs now I train my abs religiously eod and although there where some periods I was eating shittier than ever, my stomach was flat and tight with abs "showing".
Very good example.... hey I'm the last authority on these boards when it comes to cum collecting abs crack but I have the same problem as you; second I eat more / overeat, I get the preggo look right away.... not subcue but viceral fat.. like almost overnight...
a couple of sets of training ball abs work every other day seems to keep my palumbish-ism on check...
oh well...
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when a muscle uses fat for energy it uses the fat closest to it..
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when a muscle uses fat for energy it uses the fat closest to it..
are you fucking me ?
haha I suck at this, I need to read more ;D
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are you fucking me ?
haha I suck at this, I need to read more ;D
no, im not fucking you, at least as far as i know ;D
there was a study in muscular development about this a couple years ago that proved a working muscle uses nearby fat stores for energy.
but studies aside, it makes sense when you think about it. would your abdominals use fat from your belly, or would they use fat from your calf of your bicep? of course its going to use the fat that is easiest to use, and thats the closest fat.
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no, im not fucking you, at least as far as i know ;D
there was a study in muscular development about this a couple years ago that proved a working muscle uses nearby fat stores for energy.
but studies aside, it makes sense when you think about it. would your abdominals use fat from your belly, or would they use fat from your calf of your bicep? of course its going to use the fat that is easiest to use, and thats the closest fat.
It's true, and now it gets even worse: If you apply a sports lotion or anything other that will increase blood flow in these regions, it works even better, supposedly.
But i also don't believe that it makes a drastic chage, but hell, every bit helps, and it doesn't hurt as well.
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train abs ed or eod... trust me man... 4 fucking years and i didn't train abs cuz a famous personal trainer told me it doesn't do shit and it's a waste of time...
this year when i trained abs like hell... IT DID NOT MAKE THEM LEANER!!! BUTTTTTTT!!!!!!! it made my waist A LOT tighter... i did vaccums also whenever i was driving or just sitting at work for 2-3 minutes at a time... within a month, you'll notice that your waist measures less, your abs are always tight, and with the vaccums, you develope the inner abdominal wall and your stomach sucks in by itself. once i stopped doing that for 3 weeks, and eating almost the same food... that affect was gone!... it's a good feeling to have your abs sucked in without even wanting them to... i want that back :'(
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train abs ed or eod... trust me man... 4 fucking years and i didn't train abs cuz a famous personal trainer told me it doesn't do shit and it's a waste of time...
this year when i trained abs like hell... IT DID NOT MAKE THEM LEANER!!! BUTTTTTTT!!!!!!! it made my waist A LOT tighter... i did vaccums also whenever i was driving or just sitting at work for 2-3 minutes at a time... within a month, you'll notice that your waist measures less, your abs are always tight, and with the vaccums, you develope the inner abdominal wall and your stomach sucks in by itself. once i stopped doing that for 3 weeks, and eating almost the same food... that affect was gone!... it's a good feeling to have your abs sucked in without even wanting them to... i want that back :'(
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train abs ed or eod... trust me man... 4 fucking years and i didn't train abs cuz a famous personal trainer told me it doesn't do shit and it's a waste of time...
this year when i trained abs like hell... IT DID NOT MAKE THEM LEANER!!! BUTTTTTTT!!!!!!! it made my waist A LOT tighter... i did vaccums also whenever i was driving or just sitting at work for 2-3 minutes at a time... within a month, you'll notice that your waist measures less, your abs are always tight, and with the vaccums, you develope the inner abdominal wall and your stomach sucks in by itself. once i stopped doing that for 3 weeks, and eating almost the same food... that affect was gone!... it's a good feeling to have your abs sucked in without even wanting them to... i want that back :'(
i remember reading about vacuums years ago, somthing that ive never thought about for a long time, it makes sence logicaly, i think its definatly somthing a competitor should look at for the period of his diet
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also,, the brit guys used to bang on about a compound you could inject into fat stores,, cant remember the propper name for it tho as ive never used it?
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also,, the brit guys used to bang on about a compound you could inject into fat stores,, cant remember the propper name for it tho as ive never used it?
"Helios" maybe?
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yeh i think so, i could never get hold of it
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"Helios" maybe?
That stuff was famous on Germany as well, though i think it somehow vanished from the scene very fast.
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That stuff was famous on Germany as well, though i think it somehow vanished from the scene very fast.
Wasnt that actually an "injectable" blend of various cheap fatburning compounds? I think it had clen plus some other stuff.
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Wasnt that actually an "injectable" blend of various cheap fatburning compounds? I think it had clen plus some other stuff.
I don't know what it was, all i know is that it send a mod forma German steroid board into hospital, LOL.
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update: looking crazy today altought a bit flat, I'll post pics in 4 weeks maybe.
after an arm workout with the arms pumped, I actually look like a pretty good bodybuilder 8)
time to get shredded, I have 8 more weeks to get my skin paper thin
4 weeks out I up the carbs, add anadrolona, and boom = contest winning physique (ok maybe not the show I will do is tough, but I will hold my own 8))
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also,, the brit guys used to bang on about a compound you could inject into fat stores,, cant remember the propper name for it tho as ive never used it?
pgcl or helios
pgcl is hell on earth but it works pretty good
helios doesnt work that great but its painless with no side effects
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update: looking crazy today altought a bit flat, I'll post pics in 4 weeks maybe.
after an arm workout with the arms pumped, I actually look like a pretty good bodybuilder 8)
time to get shredded, I have 8 more weeks to get my skin paper thin
4 weeks out I up the carbs, add anadrolona, and boom = contest winning physique (ok maybe not the show I will do is tough, but I will hold my own 8))
im predicting we're gonna have another antoine valiant out of quebec pretty soon here!
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Wasnt that actually an "injectable" blend of various cheap fatburning compounds? I think it had clen plus some other stuff.
helios is clen and yohimbine
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update: looking crazy today altought a bit flat, I'll post pics in 4 weeks maybe.
after an arm workout with the arms pumped, I actually look like a pretty good bodybuilder 8)
time to get shredded, I have 8 more weeks to get my skin paper thin
4 weeks out I up the carbs, add anadrolona, and boom = contest winning physique (ok maybe not the show I will do is tough, but I will hold my own 8))
before you add the carbs, what weight do you expect to be, and will you be at the top of a weight class or bottom at that weight?
I say this because if you get up there and you're shredded, you'll look bigger... maybe flat, but remember, a lot of people don't pump up like they should before going up on stage. if you up the carbs and you 'puff up', trust me, you won't win shit.
you're like me, right? most of the fat and the last to go (also almost all your water weight) is in your lower back... right?
you will look great from the front if you're full, but from the back, water will build up in your lower back and it'll make you look fat and shitty... and to compensate, you'll think that using more diuretics will get rid of the water... it will, but then you'll look like you're battling the infamous "stomach bug" that competitors get all the time ;)... basically you'll be flat and fat.
go in shredded... leave puffing up for after the contest.
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im predicting we're gonna have another antoine valiant out of quebec pretty soon here!
I agree :)
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before you add the carbs, what weight do you expect to be, and will you be at the top of a weight class or bottom at that weight?
I say this because if you get up there and you're shredded, you'll look bigger... maybe flat, but remember, a lot of people don't pump up like they should before going up on stage. if you up the carbs and you 'puff up', trust me, you won't win shit.
you're like me, right? most of the fat and the last to go (also almost all your water weight) is in your lower back... right?
you will look great from the front if you're full, but from the back, water will build up in your lower back and it'll make you look fat and shitty... and to compensate, you'll think that using more diuretics will get rid of the water... it will, but then you'll look like you're battling the infamous "stomach bug" that competitors get all the time ;)... basically you'll be flat and fat.
go in shredded... leave puffing up for after the contest.
Spot on advice right there, ive made those mistakes too many times, but not next time ;)
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before you add the carbs, what weight do you expect to be, and will you be at the top of a weight class or bottom at that weight?
I say this because if you get up there and you're shredded, you'll look bigger... maybe flat, but remember, a lot of people don't pump up like they should before going up on stage. if you up the carbs and you 'puff up', trust me, you won't win shit.
you're like me, right? most of the fat and the last to go (also almost all your water weight) is in your lower back... right?
you will look great from the front if you're full, but from the back, water will build up in your lower back and it'll make you look fat and shitty... and to compensate, you'll think that using more diuretics will get rid of the water... it will, but then you'll look like you're battling the infamous "stomach bug" that competitors get all the time ;)... basically you'll be flat and fat.
go in shredded... leave puffing up for after the contest.
right now I am 197 in the morning after a few days of "not cheating", when I cheat I get up to 205-206
I think I need to go down to 187-188 to look REALLY ripped.
I am talking crazy ripped here, I don't want to be "contest" ready
I want to me fucking nasty.
but I agree with you, I won't carb uop that much especially not before the show, just to get some fullness back to 190-192 and stay there
my back has never had much separation on stage because I didn'T diet hhard enough, usually when I look ready from the front I still look off-season from the back haha
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right now I am 197 in the morning after a few days of "not cheating", when I cheat I get up to 205-206
I think I need to go down to 187-188 to look REALLY ripped.
I am talking crazy ripped here, I don't want to be "contest" ready
I want to me fucking nasty.
but I agree with you, I won't carb uop that much especially not before the show, just to get some fullness back to 190-192 and stay there
my back has never had much separation on stage because I didn'T diet hhard enough, usually when I look ready from the front I still look off-season from the back haha
How tall are you Stav?
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How tall are you Stav?
between 5'10 1/2 and 5'11 ! haven't mesure myself in a while
(yes I am light for my height)
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between 5'10 1/2 and 5'11 ! haven't mesure myself in a while
(yes I am light for my height)
We are pretty much the same height, im 225lbs now, about 7% bf, im trying to get that dry ripped middle eastern look too, ive got 12 wees until my contest :o im also doing Tren and EQ now ;)
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We are pretty much the same height, im 225lbs now, about 7% bf, im trying to get that dry ripped middle eastern look too, ive got 12 wees until my contest :o im also doing Tren and EQ now ;)
you are fucking huge :o
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you are fucking huge :o
i wish, i feel like a skinny twink :(
i always fuck up prepping for contests because i let my mind play tricks on me
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i wish, i feel like a skinny twink :(
i always fuck up prepping for contests because i let my mind play tricks on me
EVERYfuckingbody does this. Doesn't matter how jacked you are, when you're shredded you always feel like a twink.
Can't wait to see your pics this year Stavios, you're gonna look awesome :)
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EVERYfuckingbody does this. Doesn't matter how jacked you are, when you're shredded you always feel like a twink.
Can't wait to see your pics this year Stavios, you're gonna look awesome :)
thanks man, I'll post some when I feel I look good enough
I am vascular for the first time in my life, don't know how come. I feel the gh blast I ran have something to do with it
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thanks man, I'll post some when I feel I look good enough
I am vascular for the first time in my life, don't know how come. I feel the gh blast I ran have something to do with it
Hopefully I can do that myself pretty soon. I've moderately dieted for 10 weeks... the last 6 weeks my weight remains the same but I keep getting harder and fuller. Just Sust, EQ and Deca right now. Once I'm 9% (prob 11 now) I'll throw in tren and hopefully gh for the last 5 months.
5'3", 205, 11% right now. Want to be top of middleweights in October and blow through my class. I'm training the guy who's gonna win the LHW's and I intend on beating him, too 8)
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Hopefully I can do that myself pretty soon. I've moderately dieted for 10 weeks... the last 6 weeks my weight remains the same but I keep getting harder and fuller. Just Sust, EQ and Deca right now. Once I'm 9% (prob 11 now) I'll throw in tren and hopefully gh for the last 5 months.
5'3", 205, 11% right now. Want to be top of middleweights in October and blow through my class. I'm training the guy who's gonna win the LHW's and I intend on beating him, too 8)
you will destroy the tiny tits man 8)
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i wish, i feel like a skinny twink :(
i always fuck up prepping for contests because i let my mind play tricks on me
i agree...you are a (massive) skinny twink
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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i agree...you are a (massive) skinny twink
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
skinny fat twink, get it right ;D
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Alright so since last week I train my quads (and hams indirectly) monday evening, hams wednesday evening (and quads indirectly), and saturday morning I also do legs but some sorts of giant sets and squats and leg presses with frog position for the inner tighs.
maybe that's a but much because my legs looked small this morning, but yesterday was my super low carb day also so I might just be a bit flat.
I might cut out the satuday morning leg workout and train something else instead because next week I will start walking 30 minute incline at medium intensity (not fast enough to jog), and I don't think my quads will handle cardio + 3 leg workouts per week.
maybe if my legs were my strong point but they are one muscle that always shrink a lot while dieting, even if they get quite good sized in the off-season
I was kind of disapointed to see them lose their fullness when I started dieted down in the fall :-\ ;D
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legs do feel a bit "tired" too but not that much either
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Well my legs are genetically very good, so I often train them 2-3 times a month only.. even after a hip/quad tear and the hamstring tear, and subsequent lighter training, they are still boss.
But if any area flattens out, it's my arms a little when low calorie/carbs. Still, I couldn't train them more than once a week or every 6 days on a diet... just can't recuperate fast enough.
Your legs are flat because you're overtraining IMO. Back off and give them 7-8 days to fill up, and go lighter on the intense cardio, too. You have plenty of time still to get ripped.
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Well my legs are genetically very good, so I often train them 2-3 times a month only.. even after a hip/quad tear and the hamstring tear, and subsequent lighter training, they are still boss.
But if any area flattens out, it's my arms a little when low calorie/carbs. Still, I couldn't train them more than once a week or every 6 days on a diet... just can't recuperate fast enough.
Your legs are flat because you're overtraining IMO. Back off and give them 7-8 days to fill up, and go lighter on the intense cardio, too. You have plenty of time still to get ripped.
Yeah I am just freaking out I have a tendency of changing too much variables too fast haha
I'll relax a bit I am pretty lean for 12 weeks out already
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Take my advice, back off the training for a week or so and let your body rest up. You're very lean for 3 months out, the last thing you want is to be stringy and lose too much size.
Back off for a week, then start off lower intensity and increase intensity every week for 6 weeks. Then maintain for 2 weeks and start filling out sloooooowlyyyyy... Come in fresh but ripped to pieces.
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Yeah I am just freaking out I have a tendency of changing too much variables too fast haha
I'll relax a bit I am pretty lean for 12 weeks out already
12 weeks out and youre under 10%?
Man youre on track...! dont freak out 8)
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12 weeks out and youre under 10%?
Man youre on track...! dont freak out 8)
He's in great position to make a mark this year :)
I'm 11% (or so) 7 months out of my show. It's both easier and harder to prep for a long drawn out period.
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12 weeks out and youre under 10%?
Man youre on track...! dont freak out 8)
I want to look like this I might have to get down another 15 lbs or so
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Good news / bad news : I have to quit the job at the club so I'll have to find something else as a side job but at least I'll stop hurting myself every other weekend ;D
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Take my advice, back off the training for a week or so and let your body rest up. You're very lean for 3 months out, the last thing you want is to be stringy and lose too much size.
Back off for a week, then start off lower intensity and increase intensity every week for 6 weeks. Then maintain for 2 weeks and start filling out sloooooowlyyyyy... Come in fresh but ripped to pieces.
good advice
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I always have a lot of problem "resting" while dieting for a show because I never want to stop the fat loss
that's why I train 2 times a day, to burn fat faster (5 training are heavier the 5 other training sessions are giant sets)
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I always have a lot of problem "resting" while dieting for a show because I never want to stop the fat loss
that's why I train 2 times a day, to burn fat faster (5 training are heavier the 5 other training sessions are giant sets)
Head games, man. While I understand the idea, it's not true IMO. You can most certainly scale back intensity and allow recuperation. Especially if you're dieting a long ass time like you have been. You need to give your CNS a break.
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I always have a lot of problem "resting" while dieting for a show because I never want to stop the fat loss
that's why I train 2 times a day, to burn fat faster (5 training are heavier the 5 other training sessions are giant sets)
Whats you diet at this point stavios?
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Whats you diet at this point stavios?
meal 1: 8 egg whites, 1 bagel
meal 2: 100gr carbs + 60 gr protein shake p-w
meal 3: 2 cups rice + 200gr horse meat
meal 4: 200gr chicken + 1 bagel
meal 5: 200gr horse meat + illimited veggies
meal 6: 200gr horse meat + illimited veggies
1 cheat meal sunday night that I will cut at 6 or 8 weeks out
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Why do you eat horse meat? Cheap? WTF does it taste like?
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Alright so since last week I train my quads (and hams indirectly) monday evening, hams wednesday evening (and quads indirectly), and saturday morning I also do legs but some sorts of giant sets and squats and leg presses with frog position for the inner tighs.
maybe that's a but much because my legs looked small this morning, but yesterday was my super low carb day also so I might just be a bit flat.
I might cut out the satuday morning leg workout and train something else instead because next week I will start walking 30 minute incline at medium intensity (not fast enough to jog), and I don't think my quads will handle cardio + 3 leg workouts per week.
maybe if my legs were my strong point but they are one muscle that always shrink a lot while dieting, even if they get quite good sized in the off-season
I was kind of disapointed to see them lose their fullness when I started dieted down in the fall :-\ ;D
probably just flat bro.
are you doing cardio as well?
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Why do you eat horse meat? Cheap? WTF does it taste like?
yeah it's the cheapest meat !
it tastes just like beef exept it.. but less good haha
I put a bit of tabasco or worcestershire sauce in it and it's good :)
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probably just flat bro.
are you doing cardio as well?
not yet, I'll start next week 30 minutes of fast walking on an incline threadmill 4 times a week
yeah I think I was just flat cause today was a high carb day and I feel much better
my abs are looking fucking crazy right now, wich means the next step to go away will be the back fat 8) (normally for me )
Imma make you proud Flexington, I don't want you to destroy my ego like you do on the tiny tits at RX haha :D
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are you doing much flexing stav? i started flexing more lately and it is working wonders at making my muscles harder and more shapely.
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not yet, I'll start next week 30 minutes of fast walking on an incline threadmill 4 times a week
yeah I think I was just flat cause today was a high carb day and I feel much better
my abs are looking fucking crazy right now, wich means the next step to go away will be the back fat 8) (normally for me )
Imma make you proud Flexington, I don't want you to destroy my ego like you do on the tiny tits at RX haha :D
i was just asking about the cardio. because sometimes if your doing alot of cardio that can make your legs look a bit flat and feel weak, even when you have a good amount of carbs in your diet like u do.
u sound like ur doing fine bro. just keep doing what your doing. dont get too much advice from the internet and just keep doing what your doing.
dont overthink this shit. its not rocket science.
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are you doing much flexing stav? i started flexing more lately and it is working wonders at making my muscles harder and more shapely.
nope I don't but I'll start posing sessions at around 8 weeks out to get ready for the stage
now I am still taking it easy a bit, I don't want to get burned out I have been dieting for a while now ;D
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i was just asking about the cardio. because sometimes if your doing alot of cardio that can make your legs look a bit flat and feel weak, even when you have a good amount of carbs in your diet like u do.
u sound like ur doing fine bro. just keep doing what your doing. dont get too much advice from the internet and just keep doing what your doing.
dont overthink this shit. its not rocket science.
I train legs very often tho so that might do the same thing !
but I realized in this diet that I can't go low carbs as long as before.
Usually in past prep, I could do 2 weeks of protein only without even feeling it in my energy or my physique, this year as soon as carbs are below 200 I feel it
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nope I don't but I'll start posing sessions at around 8 weeks out to get ready for the stage
now I am still taking it easy a bit, I don't want to get burned out I have been dieting for a while now ;D
your lean and your not posing!!,,, our lass would have to drag me from the mirror... i do think this is a big thing that alot of lads overlook.. presentation can help alot, just hitting your mandatories perfectly for your body
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I have used posing and flexing as a form of cardio in my past prep. For 15-20 minutes after the last meal, before going to bed.
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Stavios at what bf did you started dieting and how much have you dropped in a period of lets say 12-14 weeks?
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your lean and your not posing!!,,, our lass would have to drag me from the mirror... i do think this is a big thing that alot of lads overlook.. presentation can help alot, just hitting your mandatories perfectly for your body
I hate checking myself in the mirror, I am kinda reverse-annorexic and I'm depressed the whole day afterward haha
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Stavios at what bf did you started dieting and how much have you dropped in a period of lets say 12-14 weeks?
Don't know the bf%, I never have it checked.
but.. I was 255 lbs or so haha
I just cleaned up my diet a bit but didn't diet "that" hard, but after 3 months I was already down to 215. A lot of it was water weight.
but I didn't look that good at 215, I used slin and got up to 230 again around november (again lot of water weight but it helped my physique).
then I started lowering the calories againt after christmas, got down to 212 in about 8 weeks.
then I cut the testosterone and in 2 weeks I dropped to 203-204 really quick, my face kinda lose 8 of those pounds itself haha.
so I was FAT as fuck at 255, I just have a very loong body hold fat very evenly so most of the times I think I have 30 lbs to lose and I have much much more
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when is your show
are you doing the provincials
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when is your show
are you doing the provincials
I don't think so I'll start with Quebec West (big show, they merged the whole south shore with the Mr.Montreal).
I just want to get a top 5, I'd be happy with that as it is my first show in the open class :)
and I am not gonna be "big" that's for sure, but I am trying to bring a look we don't see much often here: Complete rippedness.
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I don't think so I'll start with Quebec West (big show, they merged the whole south shore with the Mr.Montreal).
I just want to get a top 5, I'd be happy with that as it is my first show in the open class :)
and I am not gonna be "big" that's for sure, but I am trying to bring a look we don't see much often here: Complete rippedness.
What if your first or second will you do the provincial. Good luck, You should come down to see the Toronto pro here in june
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your lean and your not posing!!,,, our lass would have to drag me from the mirror... i do think this is a big thing that alot of lads overlook.. presentation can help alot, just hitting your mandatories perfectly for your body
;D
you should flex more often stavios. like everyday. dont do it in front of a mirror if you dont want to.
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What if your first or second will you do the provincial. Good luck, You should come down to see the Toronto pro here in june
I should be able to come to toronto actually as i will stop working on the week-ends 8)
I should be there 99% sure, it will motivate me for my own show
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;D
you should flex more often stavios. like everyday. dont do it in front of a mirror if you dont want to.
When I am at the door and there is nothing to to at the club at 1h to 3h am, I just stand there and flex my tighs as hard and as long as I can
but yeah I will try flexing the upper body more often !
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I am a bit pissed today... not with the prep but I was supposed to have a job for the police department (not a police, but paper work), they told me everything was fine but I would have to quit my job as a doorman.
so I quit it..
then they call me today to tell me the director still have a problem with that and that they prefer to wait a few weeks (or months) before I start working there.
fuck them I am not gonna kneel before them and suck their cock..
it's not like I was a criminal or something.. it's a fucking security job..
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Ez killer, don't be all roid ragin' over there :-*
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Ez killer, don't be all roid ragin' over there :-*
haha ;D
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haha ;D
UP THE DOSE! 200mg TREN A ED!!
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11.5 weeks out
I'll start taking full body pictures at 5-6 weeks out, when I feel I look good enough ;D
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abs looking good man, waist looks fuckin tiny right there!
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abs looking good man, waist looks fuckin tiny right there!
haha yeah I am starting to lose a lot of lower back fat and the love handles too so it's definitly a lot smaller
maybe 2 inches smaller than in the first pictures I posted
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11.5 weeks out
I'll start taking full body pictures at 5-6 weeks out, when I feel I look good enough ;D
Careful man, you're really like 4 or 5 weeks out. Land too early and you'll end up going crazy. Awesome mid-section but you know the judges don't like that, they preffer you 8 months pregnant ;) ;D
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Careful man, you're really like 4 or 5 weeks out. Land too early and you'll end up going crazy. Awesome mid-section but you know the judges don't like that, they preffer you 8 months pregnant ;) ;D
haha yeah I am carefull, I still cheat every sunday night so I think he helps me keep me sane and keep as much muscle as I can too.
I really eat a shit load of food at that cheat meal haha.
later on I will cut it if I don't lose enough bodyfat but I will still have very high carb days to compensate
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haha yeah I am carefull, I still cheat every sunday night so I think he helps me keep me sane and keep as much muscle as I can too.
I really eat a shit load of food at that cheat meal haha.
later on I will cut it if I don't lose enough bodyfat but I will still have very high carb days to compensate
Thats my approach, diet hard but also cheat hard ocasionally, recharges me mentally and keeps me sane, anyway its better to be ahead then behind, but next 11 weeks will feel like 11 months. How long have you.ve been dieting now.
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Thats my approach, diet hard but also cheat hard ocasionally, recharges me mentally and keeps me sane, anyway its better to be ahead then behind, but next 11 weeks will feel like 11 months. How long have you.ve been dieting now.
lol for a fews months already I was fat as fuck haha
but I took about 6 weeks off from dieting in december when I was in decent enough shape to eat some more and fill out a bit, and if I hadn't do this I would not be dieting at the moment that's for sure haha.
That's what I like about being in shape early, you can take 1-2 days of break with the diet if you get reaaaaaallly insane, and it doesn't affect your physique at all.
but of course the last 6 weeks there will probably won't be any cheating or maybe there will be if I can't controle myself haha
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11.5 weeks out
I'll start taking full body pictures at 5-6 weeks out, when I feel I look good enough ;D
NICE BRO!
what you weighing there??
u should get extra points for having an 8 pack! :)
Taking the test out has given u a nice look.
And your right on track, its better to be ready early then rushing the last few weeks to get in shape. So dont worry about that. Like I said before, keep doing what your doing.
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so what cycle r u doing now stav ???
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NICE BRO!
what you weighing there??
u should get extra points for having an 8 pack! :)
Taking the test out has given u a nice look.
And your right on track, its better to be ready early then rushing the last few weeks to get in shape. So dont worry about that. Like I said before, keep doing what your doing.
About 195 after my 2 "low" carbs days :)
(I was 193 at my last show so condition is spot on for 11 weeks out ! )
I think I still have about 10 lbs to drop to get JRod-like conditionning, I just started cardio this week so this will be easy shit
it's ON like Donkey Kong !!!!!!
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so what cycle r u doing now stav ???
Only trenbolona enanthate at high dose because me = too much other things to pay this month
with 50 mg t3 and Clen + ephedra (lot of "off" days with ephedra)
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Comically lean for 11 weeks out. Go for the Munzer look!
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Comically lean for 11 weeks out. Go for the Munzer look!
yeah that's the plan !
I have to be very carefull tho, I can't do too much low carbs days in a row or else
-I feel like shit
-I look like absolute shit
2 days of low carbs is the maximum I can go before having to up them to at least 300 gr or else I look SUPER stringy.
but I need those low carb days to crush the last bit of fat
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Only trenbolona enanthate at high dose because me = too much other things to pay this month
with 50 mg t3 and Clen + ephedra (lot of "off" days with ephedra)
how much tren e ?? what brand?
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how much tren e ?? what brand?
A LOT ;D
a local brand, it's good
it's called MyLab
I was doing 1g tren, 1g eq but he didn't have anymore EQ so I do 2g tren instead haha
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so whats that, 10cc tren e per week?
any sides on that dose? irritability, night sweats, ?
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HOLY shit man. Hahahhahaha 2g tren LOL you must piss Mountain Dew!
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so whats that, 10cc tren e per week?
any sides on that dose? irritability, night sweats, ?
8cc
the tren is 250
yeah I can't sleep for shit and I get pissed at every little thing, i am still able to controle it tho haha
i have more sides with 1g of Ace than I do with 2g of Enanthate
no night sweats tho
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HOLY shit man. Hahahhahaha 2g tren LOL you must piss Mountain Dew!
not so much haha I drink about 6 liters of diet 7up and 3-4 liter of water per day to fight the hunger so my piss is cristal clear haha
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8cc
the tren is 250
yeah I can't sleep for shit and I get pissed at every little thing, i am still able to controle it tho haha
i have more sides with 1g of Ace than I do with 2g of Enanthate
no night sweats tho
gabba 3gr + phenibut + piracetam = zzzzz sleep quiet
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gabba 3gr + phenibut + piracetam = zzzzz sleep quiet
haha I take 2 gravol for now it works good !
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not so much haha I drink about 6 liters of diet 7up and 3-4 liter of water per day to fight the hunger so my piss is cristal clear haha
6 litres?! wtf...isn that 4x 1.5 litre bottles? lol my head would explode as from drinking even a can of diet soda gives me headache...
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6 litres?! wtf...isn that 4x 1.5 litre bottles? lol my head would explode as from drinking even a can of diet soda gives me headache...
I drink that all the fucking time at work haha
if I don't do I would cheat too much, but that keeps me full so I don't feel like eating
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ive always believed a litre with each meal, plus additional cups of coffee and water with training etc, even when im not deiting
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6 litres?! wtf...isn that 4x 1.5 litre bottles? lol my head would explode as from drinking even a can of diet soda gives me headache...
I drink 5 - 6 litres of water a day plus other liquids like diet sodas coffee etc.
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I drink 5 - 6 litres of water a day plus other liquids like diet sodas coffee etc.
The highest Ive gone on diet sodas was a 1.5 litre pepsi max...lately ive been drinking more coffee and green tea I make at home...
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I drink that all the fucking time at work haha
if I don't do I would cheat too much, but that keeps me full so I don't feel like eating
good strategy.
The carbonation really helps with the full feeling.
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theres something i dont understand, this summer i was doing 350mg tren a, some insomnia and crazy night sweat. now im doing 700mg, sleeping like a baby and 0 night sweat.. same tren, homemade pellets...but, i was doing 300eq+500test along with the tren now only 250test
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theres something i dont understand, this summer i was doing 350mg tren a, some insomnia and crazy night sweat. now im doing 700mg, sleeping like a baby and 0 night sweat.. same tren, homemade pellets...but, i was doing 300eq+500test along with the tren now only 250test
your body got used to it.
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A LOT ;D
a local brand, it's good
it's called MyLab
I was doing 1g tren, 1g eq but he didn't have anymore EQ so I do 2g tren instead haha
:o
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About 195 after my 2 "low" carbs days :)
(I was 193 at my last show so condition is spot on for 11 weeks out ! )
I think I still have about 10 lbs to drop to get JRod-like conditionning, I just started cardio this week so this will be easy shit
it's ON like Donkey Kong !!!!!!
Im really lookin forward to the finished product here!
you're gonna be a beast bro!
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Im really lookin forward to the finished product here!
you're gonna be a beast bro!
I feel baaaaaad today haha
don't know why, it's my high carb day but after cardio (only 30 minutes), it's like if I went hypo.
but I didn't sleep much I worked the whole night, slept 2 hours and people upstaires were moving so I couldn't sleep.
I tried to sleep the whole day with no effort so I skipped the gym this evening I only went this morning.
now I am going to work, can't wait for my cheat mela tommorow 8)
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my upperbody is fucking RIPPED from the front, like.. stage ready almost
legs are smoot a big because they are flat, back is getting there
no trianing tommorow for sure, I'll carb up and let my body rest
11 weeks out no need to burn myself out yet 8)
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my upperbody is fucking RIPPED from the front, like.. stage ready almost
legs are smoot a big because they are flat, back is getting there
no trianing tommorow for sure, I'll carb up and let my body rest
11 weeks out no need to burn myself out yet 8)
legs are estrogen ,, aromasin is your friend ,
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legs are estrogen ,, aromasin is your friend ,
I have a problem with my legs joints whenever I diet down. I feel a strange weakness in both my knees like they are sore and weak. Why is that? I mean walking is hard. Do you happen to know its cause? Many many times im discouraged to starta diet only because of this.
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i know what u mean,, i always put that down to the extra cardio... possible lack of fluids in the joints too?
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my upperbody is fucking RIPPED from the front, like.. stage ready almost
legs are smoot a big because they are flat, back is getting there
no trianing tommorow for sure, I'll carb up and let my body rest
11 weeks out no need to burn myself out yet 8)
just keep training them heavy. you want to keep as much muscle in them as possible for the next 11 weeks.
get ready early so you dont have to do much cardio the last 3-4 weeks and you can keep as much size as possible in the lower body.
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i know what u mean,, i always put that down to the extra cardio... possible lack of fluids in the joints too?
I dont know but its terrible... :-\ I tried mild painkillers like ipobrufen (sp) did nothing.
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I dont know but its terrible... :-\ I tried mild painkillers like ipobrufen (sp) did nothing.
ipobrufen ,, is crap ,, white willow bark ( natural aspirin ) or hydrocotisone pills for pain
advil are anti inflammatory , inflammation is need it's stress muscle n tendon to built mass , dont go against
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The highest Ive gone on diet sodas was a 1.5 litre pepsi max...lately ive been drinking more coffee and green tea I make at home...
aspartame in soda , could interfere ph stomach n create acidic environment
if addicted to diet soda something is wrong
keep up th good work stav,, !!!!
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haha yeah i should drink more water instead
I like crystal light too
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haha yeah i should drink more water instead
I like crystal light too
ionizer life machine
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what is that ??
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what is that ??
2500$ haha ,,, amazing tho ,, buying one soon , water from sink filter ph / alkaline to your system , better intra cellular muscle water retention , no chlorine , like th water in pre historic time,,
even centopani a big believer ,,, i tend to drank too much water on keto ,, this is my solution
google it ,,
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2500$ haha ,,, amazing tho ,, buying one soon , water from sink filter ph / alkaline to your system , better intra cellular muscle water retention , no chlorine , like th water in pre historic time,,
even centopani a big believer ,,, i tend to drank too much water on keto ,, this is my solution
google it ,,
Sounds fucking awesome. But how do you drink "too much water"?
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seen stavios , guy' no bullshit ,,, real like in here,, th 195 look 225 to me , pretty calm for tren haha
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seen stavios , guy' no bullshit ,,, real like in here,, th 195 look 225 to me , pretty calm for tren haha
That's quality look right there
fuck the scale fuck numbers, in the end of the day the look is all what matters.
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seen stavios , guy' no bullshit ,,, real like in here,, th 195 look 225 to me , pretty calm for tren haha
haha thanks man, it was nice seing you and your friend !
you were huge 8)
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haha thanks man, it was nice seing you and your friend !
you were huge 8)
nah small , i b decent national 2012 if keep up what im doing now , arms start to come in,, need to be wider ,, somewhere b xframe , propionate n symmetrical make u look smaller then you are
will go back there in 6 weeks
with wide clavicle like you , you got place to fill up a la fouad
thk u
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11.5 weeks out
I'll start taking full body pictures at 5-6 weeks out, when I feel I look good enough ;D
Just saw the pic,,,,,,,,,,,shit I must start dieting - Im jealous. ;D
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Just saw the pic,,,,,,,,,,,shit I must start dieting - Im jealous. ;D
haha I feel I am right on time to look ok, in 2 weeks I'll start being a little more agressive with the diet.
since saturday I cut the Clen cause it wasn'T doing shit anymore and dose was high, so I am waiting a few days to re-introduce it with ephedra.
I just hope I'll still lose some fat even without them :-\
if not no biggy, like I said I still have a lot of carbs all weeks and still have the cheat meal so it's a joke haha.
I really feel I could hold this bodyfat very well even off-season, I won't get much fatter after the show I think.
just some high doses of GH if I can find enough money haha and a lot of test wich is cheap as hell.
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I am pissed haha, I had to change my scale because the other one suddenly stopped working >:(
so I haven't weigh myself in about 10 days, last time around I was 195.01.
I weight myself this morning... 201.1 ...
times for a few days of low carbs and no cheat meal this week for sure >:(
that's what piss me off, I don't know if I lose weight and the scale was just fucked up, or if I gained weight, or if I stayed at the exact same point
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I am upping the ephedra to 100mg a day and I am also wondering if I might not up the T3 to 75 mcg instead of 50 mcg
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I am pissed haha, I had to change my scale because the other one suddenly stopped working >:(
so I haven't weigh myself in about 10 days, last time around I was 195.01.
I weight myself this morning... 201.1 ...
times for a few days of low carbs and no cheat meal this week for sure >:(
that's what piss me off, I don't know if I lose weight and the scale was just fucked up, or if I gained weight, or if I stayed at the exact same point
look with callipers ,, with fat you built lot's of muscle , specially if off season had lack of fat intake
if takin more t3 , up protein 60gr protein that shit catabolic
i will like pro oxyelite , an adrenaline help , geranium extract now illegal in canada but still ,, you can find it , since it made illegal last week
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I am upping the ephedra to 100mg a day and I am also wondering if I might not up the T3 to 75 mcg instead of 50 mcg
Did you start fatburners right from the beginning?
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Did you start fatburners right from the beginning?
nope I used them on and off, I started them regularly at 20 weeks out but I didn't take much ephedra or T3 as I know I would have to up the dosage later
don't know if it's just water weight tho, I look about the same maybe a bit leaner.. don't know
fucking scale >:(
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look with callipers ,, with fat you built lot's of muscle , specially if off season had lack of fat intake
if takin more t3 , up protein 60gr protein that shit catabolic
i will like pro oxyelite , an adrenaline help , geranium extract now illegal in canada but still ,, you can find it , since it made illegal last week
I don't eat much fat tho... maybe 1 tablespoon of natty peanut butter spreaded on 2 baggel haha
time to get shredded !
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I don't eat much fat tho... maybe 1 tablespoon of natty peanut butter spreaded on 2 baggel haha
time to get shredded !
why ? im at 200gr fat a day n get leaner fast pace ,, fat = hormone , tren = dht = 5 x testo = cant get fat = fat + tren = mega hormone
bagel = convert in fat on skin , 9 raw eggs convert in nandrolon - epi/lh - free testo
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why ? im at 200gr fat a day n get leaner fast pace ,, fat = hormone , tren = dht = 5 x testo = cant get fat = fat + tren = mega hormone
bagel = convert in fat on skin , 9 raw eggs convert in nandrolon - epi/lh - free testo
haha don'T know I always diet with high carbs low fat, I loow like shit without carbs I don't have enough muscle mass to look slightly flat and still look good !
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haha don'T know I always diet with high carbs low fat, I loow like shit without carbs I don't have enough muscle mass to look slightly flat and still look good !
like shawn ray ,, low fat ,, me low fat im depress n mental not right n go really small ,, carb balloon water retention
i seen you you will rock that contest ,, just work with a guru n someone of th federation to make politics your side ,, you got no choice in quebec it' s like that
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theres something i dont understand, this summer i was doing 350mg tren a, some insomnia and crazy night sweat. now im doing 700mg, sleeping like a baby and 0 night sweat.. same tren, homemade pellets...but, i was doing 300eq+500test along with the tren now only 250test
It's because of the lower test. lower test, higher tren equals less sides for some reason. Also, ED injects cause less bad sides than EOD injects.
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It's because of the lower test. lower test, higher tren equals less sides for some reason. Also, ED injects cause less bad sides than EOD injects.
dht direct conversion , 5 times more androgenic , cant convert testosterone has much i guess , brologic , tren take most place , andro hormonal environment , test-tren equal dosage will be synergistic , more testo then tren will b hepatoxic ,,, does that make sense ?
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It's because of the lower test. lower test, higher tren equals less sides for some reason. Also, ED injects cause less bad sides than EOD injects.
thanks man, i have absolutely zero sides from it, with awesome results in only 2 weeks. tren > any other aas
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Today was Easter shit eating day, here is a pic of bloated face Stavios with his bro 8)
I have decided I won't do the show, but I am staying at the same bodyfat level I am now.
I am vascular as shit, everything is tight, weight is about 207-208
I want to get to 240 as lean as I am now, I give myself 2 years.
starting GHona at 4-5 iu a day for now, diet will be about the same and I will still train twice a day to be able to hit legs, back and shoulders 2 times more often
insulona will be introduced as well as testosterone but now right now, I will wait a bit.
I won't allow myself to gain much more fat, I will bulk "Spike" style
everytime bodyfat will be too high, I'll keto for 3-4 weeks and then continu to bulk
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Today was Easter shit eating day, here is a pic of bloated face Stavios with his bro 8)
I have decided I won't do the show, but I am staying at the same bodyfat level I am now.
I am vascular as shit, everything is tight, weight is about 207-208
I want to get to 240 as lean as I am now, I give myself 2 years.
starting GHona at 4-5 iu a day for now, diet will be about the same and I will still train twice a day to be able to hit legs, back and shoulders 2 times more often
insulona will be introduced as well as testosterone but now right now, I will wait a bit.
I won't allow myself to gain much more fat, I will bulk "Spike" style
everytime bodyfat will be too high, I'll keto for 3-4 weeks and then continu to bulk
your not doin th show ??? !!!! what ,, cmon ,, you look fucking AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmazing ,,, bulk up for provincial ?
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duude stay with the same goal as before, be the most ripped to the fucking shred on stage that day! dont stop dieting, dont care about going flat and increase your tren+masteron dose!!
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duude stay with the same goal as before, be the most ripped to the fucking shred on stage that day! dont stop dieting, dont care about going flat and increase your tren+masteron dose!!
once you interweb worldwode a contest ,, your doom ,, you cant fail ,,, i got supplement sponsorship for ya ,,cheat a day or two ,, gain back mental focus ,, and add fat in your diet ,, will help brain function
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why not doing the show man,.. :'( :( midsection looks tight, I bet you will look great.
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Man, you have to do the show, don't give up now! You look great, no need to worry！
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WHAT THE FUCK BRO!!! you just can't give up now...when you really get yourself in shape it will be a lot easier to blow up into new dimensions after it! and btw, 4-5 ius won't do shit in terms of bb'ing...double it or spare your money till you start hitting your 40s, 50s etc and need it for "anti-aging"purposes! anyway, no matter what you decide to do, do your best, good luck!
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Stavy, do the fucking show you TWINK. I'll fucking drive up there and backhanded slap you with my white glove if you don't.
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your not doin th show ??? !!!! what ,, cmon ,, you look fucking AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmazing ,,, bulk up for provincial ?
I look good in the gym, but my poses look very average especially from the back !
I still look too lanky to compete in the open, but I am staying on the diet just upping everything and I'll try to get big enough to win Quebec Ouest in 2 years !
I want to be as thick as you before I diet down again !
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duude stay with the same goal as before, be the most ripped to the fucking shred on stage that day! dont stop dieting, dont care about going flat and increase your tren+masteron dose!!
my problem is that I lack muscle mass, even if I am shredded I won't have the look that I think looks "good" onstage
my muscles lack quality, even when lean they don't striate enough because the muscle mass isn't there yet
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Stavy, do the fucking show you TWINK. I'll fucking drive up there and backhanded slap you with my white glove if you don't.
haha seriously I spoke with some competitors this week-end and they all said the same thing, I look good but not for the stage.
Still too lanky, those wide clavicles are a blessing and a curse at the same time, I need to fill out
but I am not going "off-season", I am only blowing the fuck up while staying tight
I might even to a show next year if gains are there, but I won't do a show just to do a show.
my problem is that I tought I had more muscle mass in the back area, but it was mostly fat !
My back poses look 2 years away from my front
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why not doing the show man,.. :'( :( midsection looks tight, I bet you will look great.
midsection is tight as fuck but the problem is the mandatory poses
I look good just "standing there", but in most poses I need to fill out
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my problem is that I lack muscle mass, even if I am shredded I won't have the look that I think looks "good" onstage
my muscles lack quality, even when lean they don't striate enough because the muscle mass isn't there yet
your problem is you dont see yourself , and you compare yourself to jay cutler
ask your girl to draw a line where your side shoulders end on a wall , and look how wide you are and think this all muscle
tren dht will make some delusion about your own tridimensional space
be a 4% bf it a mind war , a war who will learn about yourself ,, it worth it ,, whatever may happen
most guy want to be huge by self esteem n insecurities,, i did ,, th dieting process had make me a stronger more ,, th confidence did not come building more mass
if you quick i go gold gym and destroy th entire place
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your problem is you dont see yourself , and you compare yourself to jay cutler
ask your girl to draw a line where your side shoulders end on a wall , and look how wide you are and think this all muscle
tren dht will make some delusion about your own tridimensional space
be a 4% bf it a mind war , a war who will learn about yourself ,, it worth it ,, whatever may happen
most guy want to be huge by self esteem n insecurities,, i did ,, th dieting process had make me a stronger more ,, th confidence did not come building more mass
if you quick i go gold gym and destroy th entire place
haha hey I might go to bodyquest thurday to train arms with friend Luigi, might see you there 8)
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your problem is you dont see yourself , and you compare yourself to jay cutler
ask your girl to draw a line where your side shoulders end on a wall , and look how wide you are and think this all muscle
tren dht will make some delusion about your own tridimensional space
be a 4% bf it a mind war , a war who will learn about yourself ,, it worth it ,, whatever may happen
most guy want to be huge by self esteem n insecurities,, i did ,, th dieting process had make me a stronger more ,, th confidence did not come building more mass
if you quick i go gold gym and destroy th entire place
What he said.
Stavy, man up and compete. You get crushed, so what. My bet is you do JUST FINE.
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I look good in the gym, but my poses look very average especially from the back !
I still look too lanky to compete in the open, but I am staying on the diet just upping everything and I'll try to get big enough to win Quebec Ouest in 2 years !
I want to be as thick as you before I diet down again !
I think you should compete....growth comes AFTER the show...you will explode.
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I think you should compete....growth comes AFTER the show...you will explode.
I don't want to compete just for the sake of competing, I want to go onstage and make people go WTF ! :o
but for that I need a bit more size
like I said, I am not going in off-season mode, I am staying on the diet just upping the carbs a bit, dropping cardio and adding GH with a bit of slin
I want to look like that Off-season mode, for that I need 2-3 years of lean growth and lot of sauce !
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I don't want to compete just for the sake of competing, I want to go onstage and make people go WTF ! :o
but for that I need a bit more size
like I said, I am not going in off-season mode, I am staying on the diet just upping the carbs a bit, dropping cardio and adding GH with a bit of slin
I want to look like that Off-season mode, for that I need 2-3 years of lean growth and lot of sauce !
a fouad shape cost 250K
bro if you quit a contest on interweb ,, you will be blame for years !!!
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and most of that 250k is GH correcto ???
;)
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Do whatever you want bro!
You dont need a bunch of homosexuals and guys who have never lifted a weight in their lives telling you that you look good while you stand onstage with a pair of underwear pulled into your ass cheeks.
But if you did decide to change your mind and compete you'd fair quite well.
Just whatever you do have the confidence in yourself no matter what you choose!
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Do whatever you want bro!
You dont need a bunch of homosexuals and guys who have never lifted a weight in their lives telling you that you look good while you stand onstage with a pair of underwear pulled into your ass cheeks.
But if you did decide to change your mind and compete you'd fair quite well.
Just whatever you do have the confidence in yourself no matter what you choose!
LOL!!
I think he will do well, and IMO, if he fucks up, it will motivate him to get better, buif he does good, it will motivate him even more!!
Just say, "fuck the contest" and do it anyways. ;D ;D ;D
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God Bless Big Men
btw, who are those big dudes ;D
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prep is war n torture , be 4%bf near death body fat level n smile ,,, th bodybuilding adventure
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stavios check out cody lewis, just for motivation.
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dht direct conversion , 5 times more androgenic , cant convert testosterone has much i guess ,
Trenbolone is actually called a LOW androgenic steroid in recent research (compared to test). Doesn't convert to DHT or other potent steroids, unlike test = less chance of prostate issues etc.
Steroids. 2010 Jun;75(6):377-89. Epub 2010 Feb 4.
Tissue selectivity and potential clinical applications of trenbolone (17beta-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one): A potent anabolic steroid with reduced androgenic and estrogenic activity.
Yarrow JF, McCoy SC, Borst SE.
Source
Geriatric Research, Education & Clinical Center, VA Medical Center, Gainesville, FL 32608, United States. jfyarrow@ufl.edu
Abstract
Recently, the development of selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) has been suggested as a means of combating the deleterious catabolic effects of hypogonadism, especially in skeletal muscle and bone, without inducing the undesirable androgenic effects (e.g., prostate enlargement and polycythemia) associated with testosterone administration. 17beta-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone; 17beta-TBOH), a synthetic analog of testosterone, may be capable of inducing SARM-like effects as it binds to androgen receptors (ARs) with approximately three times the affinity of testosterone and has been shown to augment skeletal muscle mass and bone growth and reduce adiposity in a variety of mammalian species. In addition to its direct actions through ARs, 17beta-TBOH may also exert anabolic effects by altering the action of endogenous growth factors or inhibiting the action of glucocorticoids. Compared to testosterone, 17beta-TBOH appears to induce less growth in androgen-sensitive organs which highly express the 5alpha reductase enzyme (e.g., prostate tissue and accessory sex organs). The reduced androgenic effects result from the fact that 17beta-TBOH is metabolized to less potent androgens in vivo; while testosterone undergoes tissue-specific biotransformation to more potent steroids, dihydrotestosterone and 17beta-estradiol, via the 5alpha-reductase and aromatase enzymes, respectively. Thus the metabolism of 17beta-TBOH provides a basis for future research evaluating its safety and efficacy as a means of combating muscle and bone wasting conditions, obesity, and/or androgen insensitivity syndromes in humans, similar to that of other SARMs which are currently in development.
Published by Elsevier Inc.
PMID:
20138077
I'd really wanted to see Stavios do the show. Last time I wanted to see how those 100 Primo amps treated you. This time you could have blown up on the Anadrol you planned on taking at the end. :'( :D
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I'd really wanted to see Stavios do the show. Last time I wanted to see how those 100 Primo amps treated you. This time you could have blown up on the Anadrol you planned on taking at the end. :'( :D
haha I will someday, but honestly, I am just not "there" yet.
I post shots were I look good, but look at the pics Meso posted !
THAT is a bodybuilder, 3 years younger than me, 30 lbs heavier and leaner ;D
I loved the 100 amps of primo, but as I said before, I looked like I was on the sauce but I felt natural if it makes sense.
NO sides what so ever, it was an awesome feeling !
helped me kept my muscle mass and that's pretty much it 8)
I really want to blow the fuck up, I am pretty lean right now I might do some anadrol like I planned to do 8)
right now my main focus is getting a great job so I can have 1k a month of GHona budget 8) = (about 4-5 kits of generic GH per month)
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i agree with ya stavios... no point in competing unless your going to do some damage... i like your idea to take a few years to bulk. but not your idea to take 3-4 weeks of dieting every so often.. just dont get fat. if you overeat one day, then go light the next. back to normal day after.
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i agree with ya stavios... no point in competing unless your going to do some damage... i like your idea to take a few years to bulk. but not your idea to take 3-4 weeks of dieting every so often.. just dont get fat. if you overeat one day, then go light the next. back to normal day after.
Agreed, I shouldn't get fat with the GH tho
and I am kinda eating the same thing, just bigger portions
I will only diet if I get to 10%
I want to stay in the 8-9% zone, that's the thing that will help me bring it to the next level
I put on fat so evenly that I can be 40 lbs over weight and not even look that fat, so I will monitor this closely
I am already up to 215 now with great vascularity, a bit bloated in the face but back on the diet from the easter binging
also instead of eating horse, I have a lot of ham that my father in law gave me with some pineapple so I'll eat that tonight 8) ;D
( I love ham, favorite meat by far)
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Trenbolone is actually called a LOW androgenic steroid in recent research (compared to test). Doesn't convert to DHT or other potent steroids, unlike test = less chance of prostate issues etc.
I'd really wanted to see Stavios do the show. Last time I wanted to see how those 100 Primo amps treated you. This time you could have blown up on the Anadrol you planned on taking at the end. :'( :D
wow this is crazy, it basically say that its so much more potent with alot less sides effects.
what i find weird is that test amplify the tren sides, at least for me, ran like 750mg test with 350mg tren and i had tren sides (night sweat, insomnia), then second cycle i ran 1500mg test with 900mg deca, zero sides tons of gains but no real quality.. and now its been 3 weeks, on 750mg tren+250mg test= zero sides with more good results, pretty cool if you ask me :D
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Post up your pics, Stavy. Let's see if you're insane or if you actually need more time. My bet is you're a dysmorphic mofo :)
Here's my update at 5'3", 205lbs. Thanks for the help resizing.
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Post up your pics, Stavy. Let's see if you're insane or if you actually need more time. My bet is you're a dysmorphic mofo :)
Here's my update at 5'3", 205lbs. Thanks for the help resizing.
bro, you weight more than I do and I am 7.5 inches taller ;D ;D ;D
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bro, you weight more than I do and I am 7.5 inches taller ;D ;D ;D
You're way leaner. Apples to oranges.
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Fact: whole lot of yumminess in this thread
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Fact: whole lot of yumminess in this thread
;D
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Fact: whole lot of yumminess in this thread
LOL!
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Post up your pics, Stavy. Let's see if you're insane or if you actually need more time. My bet is you're a dysmorphic mofo :)
Here's my update at 5'3", 205lbs. Thanks for the help resizing.
You know what they say... he who stands on toilet, high on pot LOL 8)
Looking good though, man. Looks of sticky studs up in this thread. Gotta get the vaseline, damn!
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reardon with some huge quads... very thick!!!
how do you re size images, ive got a few i can never post
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Looking solid Reardon
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Looking solid Reardon
Yes, Reardon is quite the sexy tank-look-alike beast
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Post up your pics, Stavy. Let's see if you're insane or if you actually need more time. My bet is you're a dysmorphic mofo :)
Here's my update at 5'3", 205lbs. Thanks for the help resizing.
Looking good, like a Mini-Huh bro! Pro in construction ;D
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Looking good, like a Mini-Huh bro! Pro in construction ;D
My range of motion is shorter than Huh's. I actually just hold the weight and think about the contraction.
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My range of motion is shorter than Huh's. I actually just hold the weight and think about the contraction.
wow!!! talk about mind-muscle connection ;D
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Once I get on gh and insulin, I won't even need the weights. I'll just contract everything while shitting and I'll be huge!
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Once I get on gh and insulin, I won't even need the weights. I'll just contract everything while shitting and I'll be huge!
how awesome would that be...living the dream ;D
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Once I get on gh and insulin, I won't even need the weights. I'll just contract everything while shitting and I'll be huge!
haha BOOM !!! ;D
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haha BOOM !!! ;D
Post your pics, Studley Studlerson.
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Post your pics, Studley Studlerson.
haha I don't have full body shots, but I posed for BLP yesterday at the gym ;D
he agreed I need back and legs big time, but it won't be long fellas
as soon as next yaer I'll be 230 in pretty good shape, and 240 in another year from that
them = dieting down to a ripped munzer ketoeified light-heavy 8)
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haha I don't have full body shots, but I posed for BLP yesterday at the gym ;D
he agreed I need back and legs big time, but it won't be long fellas
as soon as next yaer I'll be 230 in pretty good shape, and 240 in another year from that
them = dieting down to a ripped munzer ketoeified light-heavy 8)
POST THE MOFO PICS YOU MOFO!
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POST THE MOFO PICS YOU MOFO!
x2!!
Stavios is one shy guy, can't believe he really gets out on stage and poses naked in front of men but is too shy to post some half naked locker/kitchen/bathroom shots on GB. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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x2!!
Stavios is one shy ####, can't believe he really gets out on stage and poses naked in front of men but is too shy to post some half naked locker/kitchen/bathroom shots on GB. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cause I look good onstage or in person, in pics I look fucking average ;D
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Cause I look good onstage or in person, in pics I look fucking average ;D
average??
I don't think so...
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Cause I look good onstage or in person, in pics I look fucking average ;D
I feel the same as you, im quite happy posing on a stage in a thong covered in oil in front of a bunch of men but i hate pics of me off stage ;D
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I feel the same as you, im quite happy posing on a stage in a thong covered in oil in front of a bunch of men but i hate pics of me off stage ;D
Hahaha I'm so opposite. I really, really, really hate competing. I hate posing. I hate the whole fucking thing. But I love getting in shape and I'll be damned if I'm letting someone beat me.
For me it's all about the work. I outwork everyone, at least in my imagination.
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I see potential to make your own thread...
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I see potential to make your own thread...
thanks but im not a bodybuilder...just like to look good and fight in the ring...come on stavios i know you look better than me! post up son!!
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funny you say you're not a bodybuilder but the pics title says ''bodybuilding pic''...lol
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Yea I named them that because I'm actually flexxing...not the type of guyto flex..rather strike or grapple
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Pics from tonight !
sorry I kept my pants, I had no underwear haha
220 in those shots, bad posing in the side chest cause my friend took the pic from the side a bit
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BTW, sorry for the bad haircut I shaved my hair and I am growing them back so it looks like shit for a week or two
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Your gonna be a monster if thats what you decide bro!
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Your gonna be a monster if thats what you decide bro!
I will !
just need the money haha
and I want to stay the same bodyfat as I am right now, I am already pretty soft for only 2 weeks back on the off-season train
I'll check my food intake
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What a huge improvement since your last show... man... night and day. You look awesome Stavy 8)
Tons of space on that frame. I actually don't mind your new plan now that I see the pics. Put some meat on, stay lean, get nasty bro.
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Stavios your fuckin jacked man...blow me out of the water!
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your young dont stay lean lol
you be surprise what food intake body can assimilate , be lean at 30 + , enjoy calories for time being
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Pics from tonight !
sorry I kept my pants, I had no underwear haha
220 in those shots, bad posing in the side chest cause my friend took the pic from the side a bit
what no glute shots :(
seriously you look much much improved, do the show stav you can place well ;)
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ive always believed a litre with each meal, plus additional cups of coffee and water with training etc, even when im not deiting
Just saw that...
You mean a litre of soda or water with each meal? If you mean soda (lol) then.. why is that? ???
I have couple glasses of water with my "meals".
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Looks awesome!!
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Looks awesome!!
x2. Just some water to drop and he's stage ready. Worthy pupil of God of Hormona.
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your young dont stay lean lol
you be surprise what food intake body can assimilate , be lean at 30 + , enjoy calories for time being
yeah I need to get much heavier but I have to check bodyfat a little haha
I have a tendency of getting way too fat in the off-season
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arms n delts are looking great, very impressive!
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Just saw that...
You mean a litre of soda or water with each meal? If you mean soda (lol) then.. why is that? ???
I have couple glasses of water with my "meals".
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yeah I need to get much heavier but I have to check bodyfat a little haha
I have a tendency of getting way too fat in the off-season
make sure your girlfriend love ya , and go max ,, th thing at young age , you dont know , your not natural which mean 8000 calories you might not get fat , keep clean but on industrial level , like sunday 300$ meat n eggs n it need to be all eaten in a week , all you can eat meat n fish on sunday
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make sure your girlfriend love ya , and go max ,, th thing at young age , you dont know , your not natural which mean 8000 calories you might not get fat , keep clean but on industrial level , like sunday 300$ meat n eggs n it need to be all eaten in a week , all you can eat meat n fish on sunday
hell no.. i thought i would not gained fat this winter on 1500mg test+900mg deca+sdrol and i did got up to my heaviest but fat was right there and it was no water retention lol
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hell no.. i thought i would not gained fat this winter on 1500mg test+900mg deca+sdrol and i did got up to my heaviest but fat was right there and it was no water retention lol
lol
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haha ;D
I like Lesaucer :D
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lol
You must be a monster on all that shit...post up a pic...are you planning to compete? How's the sex drive with all that deca?
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your young dont stay lean lol
you be surprise what food intake body can assimilate , be lean at 30 + , enjoy calories for time being
But staying lean is actually motivating, besides the fact the everybody appreciate your physique while in good condition and it doesn't matter if you are twink or not, while you are not in condition and even if you are jacked you keep always thinking how twink you are,
so isn't it better to feel like a conditioned twink than fat twink?
especially for him, it seems like he gain weight very easy
so it will take little longer... but every pound will be quality pound :)
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But staying lean is actually motivating, besides the fact the everybody appreciate your physique while in good condition and it doesn't matter if you are twink or not, while you are not in condition and even if you are jacked you keep always thinking how twink you are,
so isn't it better to feel like a conditioned twink than fat twink?
especially for him, it seems like he gain weight very easy
so it will take little longer... but every pound will be quality pound :)
I agree...Better be conditioned (not near contest condition!)..with veins and separation year round, rather than turning yourself fat and starting all over again "dieting" when summer comes close.
And its VERY easy for Stavios to maintain this condition, since he has reached those bf levels, his body is a furnace...he can keep that condition with no cardio and 3-4 free meals - even more during the week....assuming he stays on...
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I agree...Better be conditioned (not near contest condition!)..with veins and separation year round, rather than turning yourself fat and starting all over again "dieting" when summer comes close.
And its VERY easy for Stavios to maintain this condition, since he has reached those bf levels, his body is a furnace...he can keep that condition with no cardio and 3-4 free meals - even more during the week....assuming he stays on...
yes but young you can eat like a animal n end with abs anw , why go restricted calories and miss th chance to built mass , a chance older that it wil b more difficult / he does keto prep , that mean no matter what he look off season ,, water retention will be gone in 2 weeks
he not natural which mean you dont know how far your calorific intake can go , specially if jump on th slin + gh + tren bandwagon
you keep yourself leaner year basis when cholesterol n hbp older start b a problem not when young
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yes but young you can eat like a animal n end with abs anw fat, why go restricted calories and miss th chance to built mass , a chance older that it wil b more difficult / he does keto prep , that mean no matter what he look off season ,, water retention will be gone in 2 weeks
he not natural which mean you dont know how far your calorific intake can go , specially if jump on th slin + gh + tren bandwagon
you keep yourself leaner year basis when cholesterol n hbp older start b a problem not when young
;D
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cmon you been young or are you ,,, , you can eat all you can eat buffet on decent cycle n always be lean
for mass you think long term , at first 300 look like shit then with years it get better n better
stavios height need 300 , mind has well start eating like a 300 pounds bber right now n it will happen
600 gr prot
300 gr fat
300 gr complex clean carb / ed 10-12 meal
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cmon you been young or are you ,,, , you can eat all you can eat buffet on decent cycle n always be lean
for mass you think long term , at first 300 look like shit then with years it get better n better
stavios height need 300 , mind has well start eating like a 300 pounds bber right now n it will happen
600 gr prot
300 gr fat
300 gr complex clean carb / ed 10-12 meal
Im about stavios age...1988..
Yes its easy staying lean at that age + with drugs.. but If I go balistic on food I put on fat.. ;D
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You must be a monster on all that shit...post up a pic...are you planning to compete? How's the sex drive with all that deca?
im far from a monster lol, and i had better results on 750mg test 350mg tren +300mg eq than on all that test+deca.. never had a problem with sex drive
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cmon you been young or are you ,,, , you can eat all you can eat buffet on decent cycle n always be lean
for mass you think long term , at first 300 look like shit then with years it get better n better
stavios height need 300 , mind has well start eating like a 300 pounds bber right now n it will happen
600 gr prot
300 gr fat
300 gr complex clean carb / ed 10-12 meal
Well i thought you meant go much higher with carbs and such,
i use same macros to get leaner... (a bit less prot and fats)
btw why so high protein? is it really necessary?
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Pics from tonight !
sorry I kept my pants, I had no underwear haha
220 in those shots, bad posing in the side chest cause my friend took the pic from the side a bit
Thanks for the motivation Stavios, you look amazing. Wow, just wow.. 8)
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Well i thought you meant go much higher with carbs and such,
i use same macros to get leaner... (a bit less prot and fats)
btw why so high protein? is it really necessary?
How much do you weight?
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Well i thought you meant go much higher with carbs and such,
i use same macros to get leaner... (a bit less prot and fats)
btw why so high protein? is it really necessary?
BLP responds very poorly towards carbs, he mentioned it before. I can tolerate high carbs thankfully. I'd hate to eat that much protein!
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I agree...Better be conditioned (not near contest condition!)..with veins and separation year round, rather than turning yourself fat and starting all over again "dieting" when summer comes close.
And its VERY easy for Stavios to maintain this condition, since he has reached those bf levels, his body is a furnace...he can keep that condition with no cardio and 3-4 free meals - even more during the week....assuming he stays on...
My body is a fucking FURNACE !! You are right about that !
Very hot all the fucking time, hungry all the time even now eating 4500-5000 calories a day (2000 of those are during workout shakes, since I train twice a day)
also training twice a day make it very hard to put on fat 8)
training twice a day + lot of gear + slin + GH or gh peptides = Stavios at 250 VERY SOON
I am growing like weed and staying tight
not going overboard with junk food, only on sunday I do not workout so I eat however I feel like.
plus, on sunday I like to sleep almost the whole fucking day, today
1- got up and went to restaurant with my girl to eat a good breakfast with lot of meat
2 went for a hour walk
3- ate an icecream (flurry type)
4- another hour walk to get back home
5- slept for 2h30 hours aside the pool since it was a sunny day
6- ate a pizza
7- went to the movies
8- posting on getbig 8)
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BLP responds very poorly towards carbs, he mentioned it before. I can tolerate high carbs thankfully. I'd hate to eat that much protein!
dont really care about carb intake of stavios ,, he should try 200 gr fat a day see how it goes , he will b surprise !
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stav you look awesome right here
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412501)
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How much do you weight?
200-205 But bloofy because of water...
BLP responds very poorly towards carbs, he mentioned it before. I can tolerate high carbs thankfully. I'd hate to eat that much protein!
Yep because of him i started eat more fats and progress much better and overall feeling is much better
My body is a fucking FURNACE !! You are right about that !
Very hot all the fucking time, hungry all the time even now eating 4500-5000 calories a day (2000 of those are during workout shakes, since I train twice a day)
also training twice a day make it very hard to put on fat 8)
training twice a day + lot of gear + slin + GH or gh peptides = Stavios at 250 VERY SOON
I am growing like weed and staying tight
not going overboard with junk food, only on sunday I do not workout so I eat however I feel like.
plus, on sunday I like to sleep almost the whole fucking day, today
1- got up and went to restaurant with my girl to eat a good breakfast with lot of meat
2 went for a hour walk
3- ate an icecream (flurry type)
4- another hour walk to get back home
5- slept for 2h30 hours aside the pool since it was a sunny day
6- ate a pizza
7- went to the movies
8- posting on getbig 8)
Did you try to eat like that on your hardest workout day of the week
and on off days just eat much less?
because of less physical activity
so you use the cals more effectively both on your hardest workout day and on the off day.
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200-205 But bloofy because of water...and youre using 300carbs... lets say not 600, but 400protein and a bit less than 100 fats to get lean?
Yep because of him i started eat more fats and progress much better and overall feeling is much better
Did you try to eat like that on your hardest workout day of the week
and on off days just eat much less?
because of less physical activity
so you use the cals more effectively both on your hardest workout day and on the off day.
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Did you try to eat like that on your hardest workout day of the week
and on off days just eat much less?
because of less physical activity
so you use the cals more effectively both on your hardest workout day and on the off day.
on sunday it's just my "I don't give a shit day"
I can eat 2 meals, or I can eat 8 meals
depending on what I do etc.
it's the day I reserve to relax with my woman
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on sunday it's just my "I don't give a shit day"
I can eat 2 meals, or I can eat 8 meals
depending on what I do etc.
it's the day I reserve to relax with my woman
good boy
high testo mean = need sex , in stability much easier , 3gr enan way to go ,, you got to b horny n handle it
kiss breast 1 , kiss ass 2 , masturbation 3 # , fuck her 4# + made her squirt with your hand , it either that or your unfaithful
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good boy
high testo mean = need sex , in stability much easier , 3gr enan way to go ,, you got to b horny n handle it
kiss breast 1 , kiss ass 2 , masturbation 3 # , fuck her 4# + made her squirt with your hand , it either that or your unfaithful
It's fucking hard to stay faithfull working in a club !!!
but I am getting good at this, turning down all the hoes 8)
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for my steroid board bros !!
apparently I look like shit in that one but that's my favorite pic, getting ripped apart on the main board ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375317.0;attach=412985;image)
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well the arm looks skinny in that picture. but thats a horrible angle for the arms.
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While im on tren yes + im young so my metabolism is relatively high...for my steroid board bros !!
apparently I look like shit in that one but that's my favorite pic, getting ripped apart on the main board ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375317.0;attach=412985;image)
Looking full and tight!
what your arms measure atm?
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haven't mesured anything in years !
17.5 maybe ? ???
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for my steroid board bros !!
apparently I look like shit in that one but that's my favorite pic, getting ripped apart on the main board ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375317.0;attach=412985;image)
Looking great man, stay tight. 8)
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id kill for that waist,,,,, take no notice of the main board man!!!
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shredded
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stopped taking test 3 weeks ago fellas, I am now on trenbolone-equipoise only
weight dropped A LOT (8 pounds actually), but I have been sick so maybe I am only dehydrated a bit.
I'll wait a few days to tell you guys how it goes.
I am dieting another month with "low" carbs before adding insulin for 2 weeks to see how I look fully carbed.
weight as of this morning was 200 lbs (very depleted tho)
having a cheat day today so I should be 207-208 tommorow normally.
no libido loss yet (reason I am doing this is I want to achieve the middle east ripped look)
where do you get the money for all of this shit???
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where do you get the money for all of this shit???
From a job maybe?
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where do you get the money for all of this shit???
??? ???
roids cost next to nothing !
and I work 2 jobs, so one of those 2 jobs pay for the roids
insulin cost 30 bucks so..
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back to being between 230-235 still with tight abs 8)
here is a pic from this week of some homos, you can see Stavios working at the club undercover in the back sporting the white shirt 8)
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they went out in matching shirts?....
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back to being between 230-235 still with tight abs 8)
here is a pic from this week of some homos, you can see Stavios working at the club undercover in the back sporting the white shirt 8)
stavios, you're a good looking man but why the popped collar?
Yea, who would go out wearing the same thing
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back to being between 230-235 still with tight abs 8)
here is a pic from this week of some homos, you can see Stavios working at the club undercover in the back sporting the white shirt 8)
didnt know you worked in a gay bar stavy!
lookin good in the popped collar
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that's not a popped collar at all, , it's just that my traps are too high so the collar is at my ear level (seriously haha, I have big traps in clothes)
zoom the pic you will see 8)
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maybe the shirt is too small?
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maybe the shirt is too small?
it's a 2 XL
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back to being between 230-235 still with tight abs 8)
here is a pic from this week of some homos, you can see Stavios working at the club undercover in the back sporting the white shirt 8)
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LOL @ the quebec homos....
no offense chief but fock I don't miss them ;D
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back to being between 230-235 still with tight abs 8)
here is a pic from this week of some homos, you can see Stavios working at the club undercover in the back sporting the white shirt 8)
thats not frank mir in the background.
(http://www.cagetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/frank-mir.jpg)
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LOL @ the quebec homos....
no offense chief but fock I don't miss them ;D
haha no offense taken I want to get to fuck out of quebec too bro !!
8)
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it's a 2 XL
You are one big fella
what do you run atm?
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You are one big fella
what do you run atm?
5 cc of test 400 per week plus slin !
(I am sure the test is less than 400mg tho.. maybe 250-300 )
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will b at th final , west quebec ,, u b there ?
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will b at th final , west quebec ,, u b there ?
can you post more glute shots in your thread Please
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will b at th final , west quebec ,, u b there ?
of course bro B)
I'll be there the whole day, I have quite a few friends competing
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can see you put on some serious water weight from that bathroom shot to ur candid shot at your job lol. I'm the same way, 15 lbs of food and water weight over a fuckin weekend!
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can see you put on some serious water weight from that bathroom shot to ur candid shot at your job lol. I'm the same way, 15 lbs of food and water weight over a fuckin weekend!
haha yeah ! abs are bloated but the rest of the physique looks much better !
and I like being full of water, better on my joints :)
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can see you put on some serious water weight from that bathroom shot to ur candid shot at your job lol. I'm the same way, 15 lbs of food and water weight over a fuckin weekend!
for real!
stavios you look chubby in that photo! hahah!
thats crazy, cuz your fuckin LEAN too
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for real!
stavios you look chubby in that photo! hahah!
thats crazy, cuz your fuckin LEAN too
haha well I am not as tight sure, but I am still pretty veiny and still have some abs 8)
I was 238lbs when I weighted myself monday, usually at this weight I have a belly 8)
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around 240
getting a bit smooth, need to stop the junk a bit
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around 240
getting a bit smooth, need to stop the junk a bit
Dude grow the hair back, seriously.
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I wanted to comment on the hair too but it sounded gay lol. grow that shit out, or did the tren make you lose your hair? ::) ::) ;D
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haha it's easier that way, I hate going to the barber every week.
and also, I get WAY more compliment from women with a bald head
plus, people listen to me a lot more when I tell them to shut the fuck up at the club
so it's better bald in every way 8)
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I wanted to comment on the hair too but it sounded gay lol. grow that shit out, or did the tren make you lose your hair? ::) ::) ;D
bro I have a LOT of fucking hair , way too much
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bro I have a LOT of fucking hair , way too much
We were not talking about your back, Stav. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
j/k
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We were not talking about your back, Stav. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
j/k
haha I am starting to have a hairy back too !
;D
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haha I am starting to have a hairy back too !
;D
As long as you find a girl that's willing to shave you twice a week, all is good. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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lookin fukin big bro!
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thanks man :)
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shit bro! building those love handles again? just kidding, looking incredibly swole there, can't wait to see how you look at 300lbs :o
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Pull it back, go to prop and tren, get the gh going... pull back 6-7 lbs and get tight then blow up again 8)
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Pull it back, go to prop and tren, get the gh going... pull back 6-7 lbs and get tight then blow up again 8)
don't have the $$$ to get the gh going :p
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don't have the $$$ to get the gh going :p
PM OneTimeHard. :-[
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U clean in these pics stavios?
Or you just gonna go balls to the wall and blow the fuck up?
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U clean in these pics stavios?
Or you just gonna go balls to the wall and blow the fuck up?
well right now I will try to stay around 240 maybe try to get to 250 but I don't want my bodyfat to get higher it already is
so I'll clean up the diet a big !
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well right now I will try to stay around 240 maybe try to get to 250 but I don't want my bodyfat to get higher it already is
so I'll clean up the diet a big !
We're in the same boat stav, I'm also at 238 hitting 240, at this point I've also been a massive fatass, but this time around, I still got some abs, kinda scared to get chunky, guess the 2 iu's of gh are doing a good job at this point at keeping my bf stabilized.
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yeah same for me !
(no hgh tho)
from the front I am not "that" fat yet, but skin is getting thicker for sure
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yeah same for me !
(no hgh tho)
from the front I am not "that" fat yet, but skin is getting thicker for sure
lookin' tight still, I'd say 8 percent?
you on anything right now? or just chillin' for a little before the next big cycle
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lookin' tight still, I'd say 8 percent?
you on anything right now? or just chillin' for a little before the next big cycle
fuck load of test and slin haha
I don't look impressive in pictures but I am destroying my clothes right now
never been this big ever
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fuck load of test and slin haha
I don't look impressive in pictures but I am destroying my clothes right now
never been this big ever
yeah same here lol, I get comments all the time from people on the street, I'm not even going to get started on the gym. I'll have to post some pics soon.
I'm scared of slin bro, I'm paranoid of that gut competitors get! Obviously it's abuse like everything else, I wouldn't have guessed you're on slin
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yeah same here lol, I get comments all the time from people on the street, I'm not even going to get started on the gym. I'll have to post some pics soon.
I'm scared of slin bro, I'm paranoid of that gut competitors get! Obviously it's abuse like everything else, I wouldn't have guessed you're on slin
I take between 20 and 40 iu a day !
I have a big gut when I relax it, but in the morning my waist is tight
at night I look pregnant
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I take between 20 and 40 iu a day !
I have a big gut when I relax it, but in the morning my waist is tight
at night I look pregnant
does slin makes you retain water bro? me every 3 or 4 days i need to stop for 2 days, i get crazy water retention, chipmunk cheeks, i am pumped all the time especially in my hands lol which make me do hypertension and get headaches all the time.. as soon as i stop it the water get out and its alright
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I take between 20 and 40 iu a day !
I have a big gut when I relax it, but in the morning my waist is tight
at night I look pregnant
Exactly why I'm never touching that shit lol.
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yeah same for me !
(no hgh tho)
from the front I am not "that" fat yet, but skin is getting thicker for sure
ofc you are not, look at your delts and upper chest ( btw seems like someone aiming for dj's upper chest ;D)
it's only some water that you hold...
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ofc you are not, look at your delts and upper chest ( btw seems like someone aiming for dj's upper chest ;D)
it's only some water that you hold...
I can live with that ;D
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yeah same for me !
(no hgh tho)
from the front I am not "that" fat yet, but skin is getting thicker for sure
monster !!!!! :o easily the biggest youve been
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Front shot is very impressive. More arms and you're nasty as fuck man.
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my arms look awesome when I shoot 3cc of whatever oil in my triceps :D
they easily gain 1 inch from the inflammation haha
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Fuck the slin man. Just be patient with BB'ing, stick to test, tren etc and watch yourself grow over time. Whats the rush?
No sense in putting on 30 pounds in 1-2 years if it's going to take away from the balance of your physique.
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my arms look awesome when I shoot 3cc of whatever oil in my triceps :D
they easily gain 1 inch from the inflammation haha
Holy fucking ouch... I haven't shot my tri's in a long time. Years. I could do 2cc but it didn't always sit well and it obscured any definition.
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fuck load of test and slin haha
I don't look impressive in pictures but I am destroying my clothes right now
never been this big ever
lol, I thought you were against test and slin lately? ;D
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lol, I thought you were against test and slin lately? ;D
haha yeah but I am broke and I had a lot of vials of test left ;D
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dude that last pic is nuts.. motivated the fuck out of me.. wasnt feelin very energized today but forced myself to stay in the gym for probably 30-45 mins longer than i would have otherwise..
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yeah same for me !
(no hgh tho)
from the front I am not "that" fat yet, but skin is getting thicker for sure
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=416064;image)
Buselmo has some craaaaaaaazy delts that's for sure :o
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dude that last pic is nuts.. motivated the fuck out of me.. wasnt feelin very energized today but forced myself to stay in the gym for probably 30-45 mins longer than i would have otherwise..
haha thanks man :D
Glad it motivates you, it does the same when I see people post pictures like Leafy, yourself or Bulsemo so I'll post more pics in the futur
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Holy shit man, you've come along way, since 2 years ago, congrats
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thanks man !!
I think I'll start doing my own gear this way I'll be able to up the dosage a lot :D
my friend does his own and it cost him about 10 buck per 10 cc vial to make :o
he tried to make some test 400, he says it's nearly impossible. it turns to shit when he tried to go over 300 mg per ml.
so most of the test 400 must be bullshit too.
I have some cool pictures of the making of of the gear but I am not sure if I am allowed to post that ?
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haha yeah but I am broke and I had a lot of vials of test left ;D
What's up with this broke business? C'mon Stavy, you gotta have some money angles buddy.
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What's up with this broke business? C'mon Stavy, you gotta have some money angles buddy.
I suck with money
I work 2 jobs but when I want to do something I do it, so if I have money in my pocket you can be sure as hell at the end of the day I don't have shit haha
especially on the weekdends if I go out with the lady, and I never let her pay for anything so it's expensive
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I suck with money
I work 2 jobs but when I want to do something I do it, so if I have money in my pocket you can be sure as hell at the end of the day I don't have shit haha
especially on the weekdends if I go out with the lady, and I never let her pay for anything so it's expensive
Good man, I'm the same fuckin way!! but because of that, I never go out with chix, just turn them down, i just met an interesting one, going to do everything in my power to not spend as much. bodybuilding brings out the selfishness in me lol.
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thanks man !!
I think I'll start doing my own gear this way I'll be able to up the dosage a lot :D
my friend does his own and it cost him about 10 buck per 10 cc vial to make :o
he tried to make some test 400, he says it's nearly impossible. it turns to shit when he tried to go over 300 mg per ml.
so most of the test 400 must be bullshit too.
I have some cool pictures of the making of of the gear but I am not sure if I am allowed to post that ?
a good chemist can get long esters to hold at 400mg per ml. or more. it takes special solvents and oils tho. i wouldnt homebrew unless you have experience with the sources powders before. most of the time powders are bunk.
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a good chemist can get long esters to hold at 400mg per ml. or more. it takes special solvents and oils tho. i wouldnt homebrew unless you have experience with the sources powders before. most of the time powders are bunk.
his tren was awesome but he made it from pellets so it was legit.
I'll try out his testosterone tonight, he will give me a bottle so I can give him my opinion on his stuff
I'll shoot the whole 10 cc, if my nipples don't hurt in 3-4 days it's bunk ;D
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his tren was awesome but he made it from pellets so it was legit.
I'll try out his testosterone tonight, he will give me a bottle so I can give him my opinion on his stuff
I'll shoot the whole 10 cc, if my nipples don't hurt in 3-4 days it's bunk ;D
;D if it was me id give it to a friend who hasnt been on in a while, or who has never juiced before, and see how they react.
tren from pellets is the way to go.
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;D if it was me id give it to a friend who hasnt been on in a while, or who has never juiced before, and see how they react.
tren from pellets is the way to go.
haha yeah good idea, I just hate the "giving away gear I could shoot in my delts instead" ;D
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his tren was awesome but he made it from pellets so it was legit.
I'll try out his testosterone tonight, he will give me a bottle so I can give him my opinion on his stuff
I'll shoot the whole 10 cc, if my nipples don't hurt in 3-4 days it's bunk ;D
Haha that next level, I love it!
I've had dealers throw in powder as freebee's a few times, I just end up throwing it out. I have no desire to set up a lab and learn how to make gear
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Haha that next level, I love it!
I've had dealers throw in powder as freebee's a few times, I just end up throwing it out. I have no desire to set up a lab and learn how to make gear
I wouldn't do it too but the dude has all the set up in a great lab he sent me pictures of him doing the gear haha
crazy nice equipment
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yeah same for me !
(no hgh tho)
from the front I am not "that" fat yet, but skin is getting thicker for sure
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! THAT'S IT!!! I'M GOING BACK ON TODAY GODDAMN IT!!!!!!
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! THAT'S IT!!! I'M GOING BACK ON TODAY GODDAMN IT!!!!!!
Hey come on leave me a chance, I try to get as thick as you don't get back on yet !!!! ;D
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Hey come on leave me a chance, I try to get as thick as you don't get back on yet !!!! ;D
you're still a lot taller... so even if i'm 240 at 4%, if i stand next to you, i'd look like a fat camel fucking midget. :'(
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Update: I wanted to maybe compete next year as a heavyweight (I realized this year I can't squeeze into light-heavy without looking like shit anymore)
and then I hear that this guy will do the same show (we don't have super-heavies in quebec), in his bodybuilding debut ;D ;D ;D
Ex strongest guy in the world mr.Hugo Girard 8)
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homemade is the way to go on test especialy i have never heard of anyone getting bunk powder im sure they do prolly underdosed a lot but no more then the other ug shit I would guess.
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Update: I wanted to maybe compete next year as a heavyweight (I realized this year I can't squeeze into light-heavy without looking like shit anymore)
and then I hear that this guy will do the same show (we don't have super-heavies in quebec), in his bodybuilding debut ;D ;D ;D
Ex strongest guy in the world mr.Hugo Girard 8)
Fuck him up. he's just a huge block of balonie, you got the bodybuilder shape.
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Update: I wanted to maybe compete next year as a heavyweight (I realized this year I can't squeeze into light-heavy without looking like shit anymore)
and then I hear that this guy will do the same show (we don't have super-heavies in quebec), in his bodybuilding debut ;D ;D ;D
Ex strongest guy in the world mr.Hugo Girard 8)
Hugo use to be a bb'er. Before he went into strongman.
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Update: I wanted to maybe compete next year as a heavyweight (I realized this year I can't squeeze into light-heavy without looking like shit anymore)
and then I hear that this guy will do the same show (we don't have super-heavies in quebec), in his bodybuilding debut ;D ;D ;D
Ex strongest guy in the world mr.Hugo Girard 8)
Put him in a Pose of Cancer.
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haha he is 340 with abs now, talked to his coach yesterday !
he will be 300 lbs onstage, I just hope I will not be right next to him with my 215 lbs or so of brutal mass ;D
it's obvious that a ripped 300 pounder will win a local show, especially when his name his Hugo Girard.
the fucker reps 315 lbs 50 times on the bench :o
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Hugo use to be a bb'er. Before he went into strongman.
I did not know that 8)
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haha he is 340 with abs now, talked to his coach yesterday !
he will be 300 lbs onstage, I just hope I will not be right next to him with my 215 lbs or so of brutal mass ;D
it's obvious that a ripped 300 pounder will win a local show, especially when his name his Hugo Girard.
the fucker reps 315 lbs 50 times on the bench :o
He may win, but it doesn't mean you won't be better than him. There's nothing saying he's gonna look good at 300 lbs ripped. Huge and impressive, sure, but you may crush him from a physique standpoint.
I mean, otherwise I wouldn't bother competing. I come in at what, 175? Pffft.
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If I do it it will be just to look fucking awesome 8)
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I remember when that guy (Phillou) had bushy black hair, no beard and was like 25% bodyfat. Looked like Frankenstein!
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haha he is 340 with abs now, talked to his coach yesterday !
he will be 300 lbs onstage, I just hope I will not be right next to him with my 215 lbs or so of brutal mass ;D
it's obvious that a ripped 300 pounder will win a local show, especially when his name his Hugo Girard.
the fucker reps 315 lbs 50 times on the bench :o
after being strongman and 340lb i don't think his waist gonna be in control anywhere soon
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even if his waist is big he will pwn a local show for sure !
anyway just got news from the job I was appliying for, I have an interview with them july 19 !
so if they take me and I pass all their test, I won't be able to prep for sure. I will even have to drop the juice a bit IMO to have good medicals.
I am still pretty lean tho so blood pressure is ok and shit like that but I won't take any chances.
after I have a good job I'll be able to HGH my way to the top 8) ;D
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Get that money, playa. 8)
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Boooooya ! 8)
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Update: I wanted to maybe compete next year as a heavyweight (I realized this year I can't squeeze into light-heavy without looking like shit anymore)
and then I hear that this guy will do the same show (we don't have super-heavies in quebec), in his bodybuilding debut ;D ;D ;D
Ex strongest guy in the world mr.Hugo Girard 8)
Oh shit! Didn't know Hugo was bodybuilding now. I met Hugo while at a club and the cops were called in, him being a cop came by. Starting talking about lifting and such and invited me to lift at the same gym. Spent a week training with him, he taught me proper deadlift technique, which helped a lot because I fucked up my back a couple years earlier, proper squat and bench. Super cool dude. This was a couple years before he started competing in the WSM.
If you meet him, seriously ask him questions. The guy knows his shit when it comes to proper lifting for strength and mass, real cool dude.
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Oh shit! Didn't know Hugo was bodybuilding now. I met Hugo while at a club and the cops were called in, him being a cop came by. Starting talking about lifting and such and invited me to lift at the same gym. Spent a week training with him, he taught me proper deadlift technique, which helped a lot because I fucked up my back a couple years earlier, proper squat and bench. Super cool dude. This was a couple years before he started competing in the WSM.
If you meet him, seriously ask him questions. The guy knows his shit when it comes to proper lifting for strength and mass, real cool dude.
He trains at my gym once a week !
The owner of the gym says that everytime he trains with Hugo he injures himself because he tries to keep up with his weights haha
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He trains at my gym once a week !
The owner of the gym says that everytime he trains with Hugo he injures himself because he tries to keep up with his weights haha
Still in QB? Can't remember the name of the gym, the one were all the strippers do cardio at at 3am, on the main street with all of the strip clubs. Fuck I love strip clubs in Canada, especially quebec. Fun times when I visited up there. I never got hurt training because I wasn't dumb enough to try and keep up. Just showed me how to maximize power and leverage.
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Still in QB? Can't remember the name of the gym, the one were all the strippers do cardio at at 3am, on the main street with all of the strip clubs. Fuck I love strip clubs in Canada, especially quebec. Fun times when I visited up there. I never got hurt training because I wasn't dumb enough to try and keep up. Just showed me how to maximize power and leverage.
body quest?
great location... shit hole of a gym though
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stavios you look great man, inspiration to be your size one day your only few years older then me man, good luck on your goals this year
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Update: I wanted to maybe compete next year as a heavyweight (I realized this year I can't squeeze into light-heavy without looking like shit anymore)
and then I hear that this guy will do the same show (we don't have super-heavies in quebec), in his bodybuilding debut ;D ;D ;D
Ex strongest guy in the world mr.Hugo Girard 8)
He was never the strongest guy in the world.
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He was never the strongest guy in the world.
ok maybe not but he was beating marius back in the days so you see my point ;D
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still 240, trying to get up to 250 soon
my appetite seems to be coming back
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That's a lean 240 bro! Post up some more shots (homo). Tell us what you've been running and eating. Fuck 250 let's get 255!
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still 240, trying to get up to 250 soon
my appetite seems to be coming back
:o
damn man! looking huge!
*poke*
;D
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I wish I could walk around at 240 lbs. I need gh in my blood.
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looking awesome stav,
whats ur stack like right now
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That's a lean 240 bro! Post up some more shots (homo). Tell us what you've been running and eating. Fuck 250 let's get 255!
as of now i am eating 3 meals a day of whatever i want plus 3 shakes and slin during workout. Gear is at 8 cc of test300 per week but i will add some tren this week and lower the test a bit. I run hgh in blast mode, did 200iu 2 weeks ago and this week i am doing another 200 iu afterward ill take some ghrp-6. I am upping the food this week also i need to eat more
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still 240, trying to get up to 250 soon
my appetite seems to be coming back
This is quality 240 good job!
as of now i am eating 3 meals a day of whatever i want plus 3 shakes and slin during workout. Gear is at 8 cc of test300 per week but i will add some tren this week and lower the test a bit. I run hgh in blast mode, did 200iu 2 weeks ago and this week i am doing another 200 iu afterward ill take some ghrp-6. I am upping the food this week also i need to eat more
the 3 shakes contain any carbs?
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This is quality 240 good job!
the 3 shakes contain any carbs?
yeah 2 of the shakes are pre and intra workout so 100gr or carbs in each of them
the third shake is a "gainer", about 50 gr
so 250gr of carbs from the shake only
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enjoying your log till reading it. So your currently on just test and gh? 8 cc a week of test? What did you peak out at before. Looking great
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enjoying your log till reading it. So your currently on just test and gh? 8 cc a week of test? What did you peak out at before. Looking great
yop ! and insulin when I train
I have been as heavy before, but an obese 240 and a REALLY ugly 255 ;D
usually when I got up to those weights, it was because I had been off-cycle for a few months but I tried to stay the same weight so I gained a fuck load of fat and when I started a cycle again my weight would explode
but even at 255 my lean muscle mass wasn't that high
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thanks for the repy. What is your height somehow must of skipped it.
do you find that dosage was a real deal breaker for these gains? I am in a mout where I been running same dosages not much more than when I starte and gains have been same and slow now to a halt. Am thinking of trying this 250mg test ed for abit than maybe 2ml so 500mg ed after that stops working. Cuz I feel these dosages I been running don't effect me anymore nd from reading ur log it sounds like this is ehat you did? You finally upped your dose and made great gains again? I'm very familar with slin myself running 30iu 2 to 3 times a day but my aas use has always been low..
let me know what you think
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I'll say this: I have always used big dosage pretty much right from the start due to bad coaches.
I think I could have used smaller doses and have as much results for a while.
BUT, the main reason I am making good gains these days is simply because of the fact that I don't go off anymore, so I never lose any muscle so I don't have to waste time to get that muscle back
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exactly what I got nailed into my head to recently. From here reading gh15. I am at the point where I gain abit. Come off n few weeks n months back where I started. First few cycles I'd gain n keep it. Last few yrs my body won't let me get past my weight n keep it when I come off. So I cycle for nothing lol. So I just ended a 12th week cycel but the next week I am back on and staying on now after being informed. I want to compete and cycling won't get me therw for sure lol.
you seem to have it right on. I have a thread up. Mind giving ur input on where I should go from here? My body tolerates well test deca dbol. Bulking. I'm not sure to blast test for 10 wks maybe 1.5 to 2g? Than switch to deca and some test? Or just do all 3 at once. I'm at a lost here. Always done 6@0 31-3 400 dec n 50 dbol. Not sure where to go since this dose gains me to where I'm at now and I stall. And lose it after.
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exactly what I got nailed into my head to recently. From here reading gh15. I am at the point where I gain abit. Come off n few weeks n months back where I started. First few cycles I'd gain n keep it. Last few yrs my body won't let me get past my weight n keep it when I come off. So I cycle for nothing lol. So I just ended a 12th week cycel but the next week I am back on and staying on now after being informed. I want to compete and cycling won't get me therw for sure lol.
you seem to have it right on. I have a thread up. Mind giving ur input on where I should go from here? My body tolerates well test deca dbol. Bulking. I'm not sure to blast test for 10 wks maybe 1.5 to 2g? Than switch to deca and some test? Or just do all 3 at once. I'm at a lost here. Always done 6@0 31-3 400 dec n 50 dbol. Not sure where to go since this dose gains me to where I'm at now and I stall. And lose it after.
if you can get results from 1.5g I would do this until you can't gain anymore and then go up to 2g !
gains will be small but steady
I like to lean out for a few weeks and then blow up again once in a while, it keeps the bodyfat down and "prime" your body if you want. plus it makes you more sensitive to insulin so you seem fuller from the food you eat
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stavios i thought you were going to only use tren up to your show?
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Looking real cute these days, mang.
Hey, last time you came off how long did you come off for? Like you I've been reading the gh15 bible like a good pupil and realized coming off has NO PURPOSE (in bodybuilding at least). But the wife really wants a kid and I was planning on coming off. Really dreading it, but how much did you suffer when you came off last? :-\
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stavios i thought you were going to only use tren up to your show?
I am not doing the show anymore I have been "bulking" since may 8)
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Looking real cute these days, mang.
Hey, last time you came off how long did you come off for? Like you I've been reading the gh15 bible like a good pupil and realized coming off has NO PURPOSE (in bodybuilding at least). But the wife really wants a kid and I was planning on coming off. Really dreading it, but how much did you suffer when you came off last? :-\
thanks !
last time I was off it was for about 6 months !
when I got back on I was still feeling like shit, so 6 month wasn't enought for me to recover and I used HCG and Clomid too
I still felt good, I was training with low reps while off so I was still lifting heavy and I was still "big", just lost some muscle and got pretty fat but I still stayed somewhat big.
but libido = completely fucked for the whole 6 months.
didn't want to fuck AT ALL.
of course if I really put my mind into it and I had sex I was still able to get an erection put the mood wasn't there at all.
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Awesome log stavios. I've been using 750 mg of sustanon and It hasn't been doing much my gains have stalled. I think it's time to bump up to a gram! How is your blood pressure with the high amounts of test you use?
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Awesome log stavios. I've been using 750 mg of sustanon and It hasn't been doing much my gains have stalled. I think it's time to bump up to a gram! How is your blood pressure with the high amounts of test you use?
IF I eat clean, it's still in the norm (around 130)
if I eat a lot of junk it goes to complete shit ( I am talking in the 160's-170's)
the diastolic is always in the norm even if I eat like shit, only the systolic (sp?) get high
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Tren gave me really high blood pressure. I wasn't eating clean though and I think my test dose was to high. I might give it another shot.
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Looking real cute these days, mang.
Hey, last time you came off how long did you come off for? Like you I've been reading the gh15 bible like a good pupil and realized coming off has NO PURPOSE (in bodybuilding at least). But the wife really wants a kid and I was planning on coming off. Really dreading it, but how much did you suffer when you came off last? :-\
What does that have to do with coming off, I have a 5 year old boy, and a 2 year old girl, was on a juice for a year straight before I had my boy( before pregnancy actually) at around 1000mg per week, and when probably even higher doses for the girl... Both my kids are the healthiest ever.
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What does that have to do with coming off, I have a 5 year old boy, and a 2 year old girl, was on a juice for a year straight before I had my boy( before pregnancy actually) at around 1000mg per week, and when probably even higher doses for the girl... Both my kids are the healthiest ever.
video of the inpregnantation or bullshit ;D
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OK but you are going to retgret this.................rea dy......3.....2......... 1..
NOT
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;D
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same with my girl got preg when I was on cycle. Pretty much the day show stopped birth control. Although I added some letro for some gyno those few weeks. Maybe it helped a little since letro studies show raising test lvls like the rest of the ai's.
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Awesome log stavios. I've been using 750 mg of sustanon and It hasn't been doing much my gains have stalled. I think it's time to bump up to a gram! How is your blood pressure with the high amounts of test you use?
Your using Karachi's right? countefeits are damn near perfect but usually contain testosterone. Does it feel like 750mg?
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Your using Karachi's right? countefeits are damn near perfect but usually contain testosterone. Does it feel like 750mg?
750 isn't much tho
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750 isn't much tho
not much but 750mg human grade testosterone is not that low. I can feel a difference between 250mg-500mg and 750mg of human grade in matter of days. Small differences but noticable very fast.
I think you've been hanging around BLP too much my friend ;D
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update: LMAO I am down to 235 after the second HGH blast ! I really don't know why I ate a fuck load of icecream the whole weekend, and drank like 10 large iced capuccino (LOT OF CALORIES IN THAT) and I am back in the same condition I was at 218 in december but now I am 235
awesome ;D
I shot 200 mg of tren also, I am already getting veinier
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That's such a great fucking result, lol.
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That's such a great fucking result, lol.
yeah I planned to get my weight up but I lost a fuckload of fat in my back and waist
I am happy with that !
I was sure I had gained 10 lbs because my arms were tearing up my shirts that are usually not that tight
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update: LMAO I am down to 235 after the second HGH blast ! I really don't know why I ate a fuck load of icecream the whole weekend, and drank like 10 large iced capuccino (LOT OF CALORIES IN THAT) and I am back in the same condition I was at 218 in december but now I am 235
awesome ;D
I shot 200 mg of tren also, I am already getting veinier
I had 6 bowls of ice cream on sat, but I ran 15 iu's of gh so I should be good
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I had 6 bowls of ice cream on sat, but I ran 15 iu's of gh so I should be good
I ran 40 !
top that !! ;D
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I had 6 bowls of ice cream on sat, but I ran 15 iu's of gh so I should be good
Thats why I hate icecream lol. The stuff never satisfies you no matter how much you eat
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I ran 40 !
top that !! ;D
what gh you using bro?
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I ran 40 !
top that !! ;D
40 lol, damn brotha, now were talking olympia dosages lol.
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you guys gonna have some weird bone growth if you keep doing that :-\
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what gh you using bro?
blue tops
all my friends are using serostim but I cannot afford that shit no fucking way haha
they all do like 3iu of the stuff and swears by it
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you guys gonna have some weird bone growth if you keep doing that :-\
I just do small blasts and take ghrp-6 in between while bulking instead of taking a box a month, I take 2 boxes in a week
;D
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I just do small blasts and take ghrp-6 in between while bulking instead of taking a box a month, I take 2 boxes in a week
;D
that seems to be the best way for us up and comers in the cult who don't have the greatest income.
abnormal bone growth I doubt it haha
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not much but 750mg human grade testosterone is not that low. I can feel a difference between 250mg-500mg and 750mg of human grade in matter of days. Small differences but noticable very fast.
I think you've been hanging around BLP too much my friend ;D
Im on 750 too..only hg test..
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Im on 750 too..only hg test..
what brand?
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what brand?
norma..
im not huge but lets say its enough to make you feel and look above average.lol
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norma is indeed nectar of the gods ;) enjoy yourself my friend.
(http://www.trib.com/app/ONLINE_ADS/6500-6999/6866_ColdStone/TodaysDeal/ColdStone_Main.jpg)
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norma is indeed nectar of the gods ;) enjoy yourself my friend.
(http://www.trib.com/app/ONLINE_ADS/6500-6999/6866_ColdStone/TodaysDeal/ColdStone_Main.jpg)
8) ;)
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Iv just stumbled on this steroid board now, id posted before on it but it seemed to be newbies. This week when I gave it a 2nd chance its all the decent knowledgable guys id be talking to anyway on the gossip and opinion. Im subscribed!!
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Iv just stumbled on this steroid board now, id posted before on it but it seemed to be newbies. This week when I gave it a 2nd chance its all the decent knowledgable guys id be talking to anyway on the gossip and opinion. Im subscribed!!
There's some sick fucks up in here, lol. Def some experience, though. Good to have you, Okami.
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Im on 750 too..only hg test..
I tought you were willing to die for us bitches !!
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There's some sick fucks up in here, lol. Def some experience, though. Good to have you, Okami.
like you are one to talk ;D
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NORMA IS GREAT HG.BUT TESTOVIRON SCHERING EUROPE IS THE CREAM OF THE FUCKING CROP.
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like you are one to talk ;D
LOL. I'm practically natural by gh15 standards ;D
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blue tops
all my friends are using serostim but I cannot afford that shit no fucking way haha
they all do like 3iu of the stuff and swears by it
how much is it for a kit of blues?
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how much is it for a kit of blues?
depends on where you buy it !
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NORMA IS GREAT HG.BUT TESTOVIRON SCHERING EUROPE IS THE CREAM OF THE FUCKING CROP.
I believe these testoviron are made in Germany and made for Thai export. Hence the reason all these sources in Thailand are carrying them. . Do they look like this ?
(http://www.steroidsdirect.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/bayer-testoviron-depot-250mg-thailand1.jpeg)
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I tought you were willing to die for us bitches !!
lol....no money... :(
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lol....no money... :(
I feel ya :(
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I believe these testoviron are made in Germany and made for Thai export. Hence the reason all these sources in Thailand are carrying them. . Do they look like this ?
(http://www.steroidsdirect.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/bayer-testoviron-depot-250mg-thailand1.jpeg)
Ive used this kind too. The amps are ALWAYS overfilled and in the leaflet it says that it has 2 esters enanthate and a little prop.
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Ive used this kind too. The amps are ALWAYS overfilled and in the leaflet it says that it has 2 esters enanthate and a little prop.
A guy I know was on them for 3 weeks wasnt gaininig any weight and the moment he switched to Rotex Medica he blew up overnight. Did you like them?
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A guy I know was on them for 3 weeks wasnt gaininig any weight and the moment he switched to Rotex Medica he blew up overnight. Did you like them?
Yes i did 1g, g2g... 8) legit of course straight from the pharmacy. ;D
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Stavios,
What changes are you experiencing doing this shorter blast with a much higher dose, versus if you ran 5 iu per day consistantly for 3-4 months? Are your results much better? are there more side effects?
cheers
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Stavios,
What changes are you experiencing doing this shorter blast with a much higher dose, versus if you ran 5 iu per day consistantly for 3-4 months? Are your results much better? are there more side effects?
cheers
hands hurt like fuck but the change in body composition is drastic
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hands hurt like fuck but the change in body composition is drastic
Hypothetically... if I were to run 15iu ED for the next 8 weeks, then take 1 month off and then resume with an offseason plan... how do you like this?
Week 1-8
250 Test Enanthate ED
100-150mg anadrol ED
300mg EQ EOD
10iu gh ED
???iu insulin
Weeks 8-12
250 Test Enanthate EOD
100 TNE ED
50mg dbol ED
300 EQ EOD
Week 8
blast gh 200iu in one week
??? insulin
Week 9-11
gh 10iu/day
??? insulin
Week 12
blast gh 200iu in one week
??? insulin
After week 12, drop AAS to cruise dose for a while and keep gh at 15iu/day.
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Hypothetically... if I were to run 15iu ED for the next 8 weeks, then take 1 month off and then resume with an offseason plan... how do you like this?
Week 1-8
250 Test Enanthate ED
100-150mg anadrol ED
300mg EQ EOD
10iu gh ED
???iu insulin
Weeks 8-12
250 Test Enanthate EOD
100 TNE ED
50mg dbol ED
300 EQ EOD
Week 8
blast gh 200iu in one week
??? insulin
Week 9-11
gh 10iu/day
??? insulin
Week 12
blast gh 200iu in one week
??? insulin
After week 12, drop AAS to cruise dose for a while and keep gh at 15iu/day.
WAY to complicated for me ;D
off-season I just like to shoot as much as I can take and pay for ;D
but this looks like a good plan !
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stavios why are you doing this gh transformation, when you get old you will look weird with the extra bone growth
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stavios why are you doing this gh transformation, when you get old you will look weird with the extra bone growth
no bone growth yet
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Project Stavios terminated due to job opportunity
my main goal will be to maintain what I have now until I have the job in january, now I have a few months of "training" (october to january) that I won't even be home and don't even know if I will be able to train as much as I want
but no biggy, job first, training second
I will try to stay the same size during that time at least 8)
There will be a new thread for the next mutation, with more money, more growth and more fun !!