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this is the meat and potatos phase,, now i will go on starting writing everything you need to listen and follow,,
this is meant for bodybuilders! ,, this is not meant for 15 year old that just enter gymnasium 1 month ago,,
this is a phase 3 of bodybuilder for the poor,, i will bring bring you to the mountain ,, i will help you get to troy alvez type of physiqe! but! from then on you are on your own ,, you will need much more money or sponsor to get to what you see today at the top,, so i will bring you up to 220 6% but from then you are on your own friends,,
phase 1 and 2 are must follow ,, and follow directly as i wrote it there,,yes you can chnage fish type but over all follow directly as i wrote it
ingredients needed,,you will have to put some money investment but since you save on supplmenet you wil have this money,,
again this is a program to follow for the fella with the worst bodybuild genetic out there aka vince goodrum and bring him up to ron heris level,, so if you are better and most likley you are...you will end up looking at the level zoen of troy alvez minus the years of experience and muscle maturity
ingredients
testosterona propioneta 100mg/ml 2 vials
testosterona enantato 250mg/ml or 300mg/ml or 350mg/ml depending on your contact ofcourse and wether human grade or private chef 2 vials
trenbolona ace ,, this is HIGHLY IMPORTANT 100mg per cc only ace! 2 vials
masterona 100mg per cc 2 vials
equipona 300mg per cc 2 vials
human growth hormone 1 kit 100iu only! nordic ! AGAIN ONLY NORDIC GH!
thats it ,, all you need you will need to buy it every single month so this will be an expense of about 500-600 dollaros first time around and then from third month! you will only need to put 300 dollaors a month ,, which is equal to your supplment sepdning,, this is the cheapest it can be to get to advance level bodybuild 300 dollaros every 4-8 weeks is the cheapest possible way to get there i cant get it any cheaper for you im sorry ,, most bodybuild spend 1000s in a matter of a 3 month period thousands of dollars! sometimes surpassing 10 k in a matter of 90 days
so this is not your case...you will need 500-600 for first 2 months and from then on 300 dolaros every month
alright,,
injection should be done every time before bed,,
i also want all injects to be done into the ass right and left cheeks ,, again this is your responsbility to be bodybuilder i write my own opinions and i discuss matters for enterntainment only...
i want you to start within PRIMING YOUR BODY with hgh ,, that mean you will work hgh into your body for 30-60days as a prime 4 iu a day ,, only 4 iu you hear that right just make sure you get nordic hgh and no other gh! you want that gh because it is the purest one and you want to get the most out of your gh,, yes you can find other decent and good gh but nordic gh never seem to dissapoint for years upon years going already close to 10 years
now,, i want 4 iu into DELTS 2 iu morning when wake up 2 iu night,, yes only this way and just train ,, do it for 25 days along with equipona at 900mg 3 times a week monday wed friday 300 mg each time that is it! no testosterona yet,, at the end of this 25 days i want you to add trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day! make sure it is LEGIT TRENBOLONA at 100mg every second day and continue with the second kit of gh for another 25 days at 4-5 iu a day 2.5 and 2.5 morning when wake up and night before sleep
now,, at the same time you add trenbolona ace i want you to add propioneta at 50mg! every 2nd to 3rd day depending on your own feeling since i cant see you you will decide but not every day! every second to third day,, 50 mg!
when 50 day mark arrive i want you to take the enantato ,,and do a 3 time weekly injectiong of 300mg each time mon wed and friday,, can also be tuesday thursday and saturday all up to your choice and how you do things and if you are lazy some fellas like to take their sweet time thats how bodybuild do at times,, this will give you 900-1000mg of testosterona enantato a week when you are done 50-60 days of hgh prime ,, with the enantato i want you to INCREASE the trenbolona to 100 mg every day 5 times a week ,, it is NOT easy ! trenbolona ace is very very tricky it works on your brain it change your personality even if you think it doesnt it does ,, it is the strongest personality change hormone out there but it is also a must to achieve any of today condition ,,you need to be careful with it if you can not tolerate every day 100mg you will have to continue every second day 100 mg ,, but if you can then 100mg a day will be better for this phase
so ,, enantato 900-1000 mg a week ...trenbolna ace 100 mg a day or if really cant 100 mg every 2 days,, and! NO ANTI ESTROGENS! i want you to introduce masterona if you have problem with high estrogen after 50 days! you should not have any problem but if you do introduce masterona at 50mg every 2 days! the masterona i stil dont want in only if you suffer from high levels of estrrogen which you shoudl not not even when you get on 1000 mg testosterona yuo still should be ok with estrogen ,,
now the masterona itself i want you to introduce after 3 weeks on enantato at 1000 mg ,,
so what we have until now,,
we have day 51 start,, you go on enantato 900-1000 mg a week,, you still keep equipona at 900 mg ,, you have trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day and after another 3 weeks you add in masterona at 50mg every second day ,, you can! combine injections,, it is all oil shoudl be no problem but it is still usualy 3 injects a week atleast no matter how you do it ,, you want it at 3 day injection a week so its ok ,,
now you will notice that by day 80-90 from your start you pretty much suddenly look like one of the best bodybuilder to ever touch foot in your gymnasium ,, this is in 3 months! you still wont be quality of top bodybuilder due to maturity and experience and time ,, and also due to lack of products notice you are poor! there are some things you can not do like bodybuilder with more money,, but you can defenitely have better quality physiqe than them
so....
day 80-90 you REINTRODUCE HGH to the blood,, do it on day 90 ,, this time you LEAVE testosterona enantato in may even increase it to 1200mg a week dependign on personal choice,, you leave equipona in still 900mg and you take trenbolona ace out! insted of trenbolona ace you bring in anadrola preferebly solution and do 100-150mg every day ,, again preferably injectable! you can still do orals too,, rememer you take out the trenbolona ace! you do gh again for 30 days this time you do it at 6-8 iu a day only for 30 days! if you can afford 60 it will be better for you but 30 will be ok too ,,you can even inject it every second day! at 6-8 iu a day then a day of no hgh then 8 iu a day then day of no hgh etc etc
you will then approach 120 days which is 4 months since you started and i will want you to start reducing the testosterona doses again ,, i will make phase 4 in next few days to discuss the next steps,,
again the nex phase will involve the possibility of diuretic application and a quick discussion about insulina and why im against it ,, it will also involve what needed to get to the 220 + at cometition condition because all those fellas are addicted to insulina and gh ,, you just dont step on stage 5'7 220 shredded if you are not hgh and insulina addict,, so we will talk abotu it too but again you are poor so i bring you up to 220 6% from then you will either have to find a good job or will have to have help or do something to get the ability to proceed,, most good bodybuilder at 200lb wipe floor with heavier bodybuilders...especialy if in light heavy classes ,, so its not that bad to get up to 200 210 220 6% my friends,, and this is the way you do it ,,
few things,,
you never give up! no matter what you see in the mirror after 11 days ,, you dont just say oh im tired of this,, you will see a lot in the mirror after lefit gh been in your blood for 11 days but! 11 days is not enough time to create body compsition change it takes some more time,, this is 120 days here that you should start ,, then will go to phase 4 which will polish the physiqe and bring it to competition level ,, not stage ready but pretty much 2 weeks out ,, i dont think yuo need it for every day life....but in general if you can get to look 200+ 6% on every day life at 5'10 or under no one will mistaken you for anything other than bodybuilder and you will be the best in your city in most cases,,
good luck to all ,,
phase 4 will come in few days
sealed bible index,,
gh15 approved
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this is why he is GOD OF HORMONES ;)
good post
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:o
wow..solid info..
I recommend Ron or any mod lock this thread from "guests" so that only members can read it. Its gold.
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yup this is GOLD right here..
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The "ingredients" here would cost me around 1700 USD where i live..... :(
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gh15 a big THANK YOU for this as I'm a college student and don't have *that* much money to afford... you said before if someone is 20-25 years old gh is not necessary, I'm 21 can I skip the gh for now ?
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gh15 a big THANK YOU for this as I'm a college student and don't have *that* much money to afford... you said before if someone is 20-25 years old gh is not necessary, I'm 21 can I skip the gh for now ?
You just answered that yourself ???
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& how about pcT mr nasser ?
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& how about pcT mr nasser ?
1st he's not Nasser you retard and
2nd PCT is for pussies, bodybuilders NEVER go off, no need for PCT.
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i thought pct is already busted and yes they are for pussies ;D
should make a chart out of this so easier to keep track what to inject on what day and so on....
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1st he's not Nasser you retard and
2nd PCT is for pussies, bodybuilders NEVER go off, no need for PCT.
This... PCT = lower your dose to 500mgs - 1 gram a week - its called off time or back to natty status :D
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Most important post in the HISTORY of bodybuilding internet boardings
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Uhhhm, if I'm poor wouldn't I be more concerned with owning a car for 300 a month?
yes, let's turn this into a "what's a better way to spend 300 dollars" ::).
don't be a stupid asshole.
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seems a very cost efficient way to use gh,,, if i ever compete again i'll follow this for half a year or more....
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Lol "stupid asshole"? You're taking an unknown guy who tells you to stick spikes in your veins seriously?lol
Veins ? ???
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Lol "stupid asshole"? You're taking an unknown guy who tells you to stick spikes in your veins seriously?lol
God, please kill yourself.
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I have a better idea. Why don't you kill me? Why don't you give me your location?
Tokyo, Japan.
Better kill yourself, for mankinds sake.
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How can we meet big mouth?
LOL, you're really stupid.
I gave you my location, get on a plane and come to Japan, then go to a internet cafe and post when you arrive, but maybe it would be better if you inject some steroids in your veins right where you are now and safe us the pain. ::) ::)
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How can we meet big mouth?
Well, I don't worship the cock, so meeting at your favorite gay bar would be out.
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How can we meet big mouth?
This isn't a dating site champ - just saying
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I don't want to read your guys lame jokes lol. I just want tjat guy's exact location.
he's married, dude. he doesn't want to meet you up for a gloryhole encounter.
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I don't want to read your guys lame jokes lol. I just want tjat guy's exact location.
LOL, ask your mom, i boned her last night.
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Best post I've read in my life.
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solid info god real solid, but i noticed u only talk about testona, trenbolona, equiposona and masterona.
how about other steriods, they not needed ?????
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Anytime coward.
He gave you his location homo now get on a plane or fuck off and die
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So this is for someone looking to be competitive, correct? I was planning out my first cycle and it was going to be hgh for 3 months then tren+eq+mast+test, but instead I'm going the sust/npp/mast route after the hgh... would you consider this a good alternative route? I will be including dbol for the 1st six weeks and adrol for the second six weeks, and will have tbol and anavar on hand if I wanna switch out an oral.
Also, you leep mention nordic and that's very nice of you, but if you want an alernative reliable source google peppharm
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solid info god real solid, but i noticed u only talk about testona, trenbolona, equiposona and masterona.
how about other steriods, they not needed ?????
Test, Tren, EQ, and Mast. are the BEST steroids, in Gh15's mind, to use in order to reach your goal. This is ALL in the bible, my friend. Read it.
Another solid thread, Gh15. 8)
P.S - someone earlier in the thread mentioned a " chart " for when to inject, etc. That's a GREAT IDEA !!
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yes the chart would be a great idea,
though to get down lean add in cardio? you say most bodybuilders don't even do cardio to diet down
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Does Nordic ships to another countrys? ???
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So this is for someone looking to be competitive, correct? I was planning out my first cycle and it was going to be hgh for 3 months then tren+eq+mast+test, but instead I'm going the sust/npp/mast route after the hgh... would you consider this a good alternative route? I will be including dbol for the 1st six weeks and adrol for the second six weeks, and will have tbol and anavar on hand if I wanna switch out an oral.
Also, you leep mention nordic and that's very nice of you, but if you want an alernative reliable source google peppharm
Honestly bro for a first time user starting with 1 - 2 compounds is plenty - you need to see how you react to them - nandralone for some can really fuck with your emotions and tren x 100 on that so wouldnt use tren first off - a test dball start is a good first up - see how you first react to the test then add and subtract compounds seeing how they react on you personaly - no point starting with a handfull of drugs and you react to one in a bad way cos you wont know what one it is.. and npp needs shooting ed or eod as a newbie are you keen to pin every day or two ?
I know gh15 is giving the best advice possible to get you to the best you can be but I dont think a first timer should jump into a more advanced cycle until he knows what the drugs do to him - play around with them first and get a feel for how you act and react - they all do diff things to us etc remember some of these hormones are really powerful drugs - just my 2c - but good luck and welcome to the dark side ;D
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Lol a country isn't an exact location. Anybody who wants to talk shit should pm an exact location, otherwise you're just cowards lol
The rest of us are conversing about this AWESOME thread, while your dumbass keeps rambling on about " location ", " kill me ", etc. Do us a favor ... shut the fuck up and get your faggety ass out the thread. Thanks, Slingblade. ;)
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The rest of us are conversing about this AWESOME thread, while your dumbass keeps rambling on about " location ", " kill me ", etc. Do us a favor ... shut the fuck up and get your faggety ass out the thread. Thanks, Slingblade. ;)
X2
he did mention location, Tokyo, Japan, one is a city the other is the country, what a dumb shit ::)
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The rest of us are conversing about this AWESOME thread, while your dumbass keeps rambling on about " location ", " kill me ", etc. Do us a favor ... shut the fuck up and get your faggety ass out the thread. Thanks, Slingblade. ;)
lol, no shit, what's this queen's problem?
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Honestly bro for a first time user starting with 1 - 2 compounds is plenty - you need to see how you react to them - nandralone for some can really fuck with your emotions and tren x 100 on that so wouldnt use tren first off - a test dball start is a good first up - see how you first react to the test then add and subtract compounds seeing how they react on you personaly - no point starting with a handfull of drugs and you react to one in a bad way cos you wont know what one it is.. and npp needs shooting ed or eod as a newbie are you keen to pin every day or two ?
I know gh15 is giving the best advice possible to get you to the best you can be but I dont think a first timer should jump into a more advanced cycle until he knows what the drugs do to him - play around with them first and get a feel for how you act and react - they all do diff things to us etc remember some of these hormones are really powerful drugs - just my 2c - but good luck and welcome to the dark side ;D
This is what people keep telling me, but honestly I'm a pretty emotionally stable guy, have no problem shooting every other day... this was the plan, that or ever day because I don't wanna sacrifice stable plasma % for comfort, the prick of needle dont bother me, and why try to see how I react to test when I can see how I react to test npp and mas and dbol, much rather see how I react to those lol
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Lol a country isn't an exact location. Anybody who wants to talk shit should pm an exact location, otherwise you're just cowards lol
meltdown.
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Where the fuck is the female version of this shit. I'm not putting any fucking test in my body unless you count a cock.
Tell me how to get a Sonia Gonzalez body the natty way GH.
Bikinislut approved.
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What the fuck is this? 500$ a month? That's montly income of half of my friends who bodybuild, lol, it's bodybuilding for the rich.
I dunno any bodybuilder which earns more than 900$ a month, that's only when you're either educated (after good uni) or had luck. You pay at least 300$ for your flat, food and water at least 300$ (everything is very expensive, 1kg (2.2pounds) of chicken breast is 5$ at least, that's 150$ chicken breast alone lol) then if you buy no clothes, nothing to wash, no supplements) you have 300$ left... of which usually 35$ is gym membership. So you have about 200$ left for your drugs and I repeat, it's only wealthy individuals who had that amount of money.
You have no idea about being poor honestly :O
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With this amount of money you can still look like that...
O and I forgot to mention, it's not like you work 4 hours a day and that's it. In order to get that 900$ you have to work 8 hours a day 5 times a week man AT LEAST.
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Lol...you sound like a bunch of little women. All I want is this shit to be said to my face...I haven't got one PM with an exact location. Cowards.lol
What the fuck are you talking about?
You want me to come and talk smack to your face? I can do that if you want.
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Lol...you sound like a bunch of little women. All I want is this shit to be said to my face...I haven't got one PM with an exact location. Cowards.lol
So you will fly around the world to have something said to your face because it was said on a message board known for it's wisecracks and smart ass comments ? get the fuck out of here and stop littering Gods thread with shit - this is bible class either come to learn offer an oppinion or fuck off ::)
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So you will fly around the world to have something said to your face because it was said on a message board known for it's wisecracks and smart ass comments ? get the fuck out of here and stop littering Gods thread with shit - this is bible class either come to learn offer an oppinion or fuck off ::)
Uh oh...don't egg him on. He may come and find you.
Oooooohhhhh. :-X
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Uh oh...don't egg him on. He may come and find you.
Oooooohhhhh. :-X
Well if he is going to waste money on flying around the world so i can tell him to fuck off to his face he obviously has $ to burn so how about depositing 10k into my account Mr Average toughguy so I can sort accomadation and trips for your stay here ::) :D
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Well if he is going to waste money on flying around the world so i can tell him to fuck off to his face he obviously has $ to burn so how about depositing 10k into my account Mr Average toughguy so I can sort accomadation and trips for your stay here ::) :D
Perhaps I'll have him be my first sugar daddy. Then we can wine and dine on him.
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Perhaps I'll have him be my first sugar daddy. Then we can wine and dine on him.
I think he should buy you a fast red car - it's only fair :D
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What the fuck is this? 500$ a month? That's montly income of half of my friends who bodybuild, lol, it's bodybuilding for the rich.
I dunno any bodybuilder which earns more than 900$ a month, that's only when you're either educated (after good uni) or had luck. You pay at least 300$ for your flat, food and water at least 300$ (everything is very expensive, 1kg (2.2pounds) of chicken breast is 5$ at least, that's 150$ chicken breast alone lol) then if you buy no clothes, nothing to wash, no supplements) you have 300$ left... of which usually 35$ is gym membership. So you have about 200$ left for your drugs and I repeat, it's only wealthy individuals who had that amount of money.
You have no idea about being poor honestly :O
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227060_222638564417289_100000134415925_1011776_7237765_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/181786_194406747251299_100000459257697_604278_244855_n.jpg)
With this amount of money you can still look like that...
O and I forgot to mention, it's not like you work 4 hours a day and that's it. In order to get that 900$ you have to work 8 hours a day 5 times a week man AT LEAST.
where do you live?
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Honestly bro for a first time user starting with 1 - 2 compounds is plenty - you need to see how you react to them - nandralone for some can really fuck with your emotions and tren x 100 on that so wouldnt use tren first off - a test dball start is a good first up - see how you first react to the test then add and subtract compounds seeing how they react on you personaly - no point starting with a handfull of drugs and you react to one in a bad way cos you wont know what one it is.. and npp needs shooting ed or eod as a newbie are you keen to pin every day or two ?
I know gh15 is giving the best advice possible to get you to the best you can be but I dont think a first timer should jump into a more advanced cycle until he knows what the drugs do to him - play around with them first and get a feel for how you act and react - they all do diff things to us etc remember some of these hormones are really powerful drugs - just my 2c - but good luck and welcome to the dark side ;D
That's what i was told too....don't use tren right off the bat. But My line of thinking was..... What's the difference if it's my first cycle or my fifth cycle ??...it's not going to fuck with my head any less if I wait a year...and i didn't feel like waiting a year to use the good stuff
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That's what i was told too....don't use tren right off the bat. But My line of thinking was..... What's the difference if it's my first cycle or my fifth cycle ??...it's not going to fuck with my head any less if I wait a year...and i didn't feel like waiting a year to use the good stuff
Alot of it depends on the person - we are all different in how we react to hormones - I have seen guys in tears on tren and have brutal mood swings where as myself other than getting a bit irritated easier Im quite stable on it though I do light up alot quicker than normal - My problem drug is nandralone, it has me all over the place like a mad womans piss.. you are one of the lucky ones as am I with tren but I have seen some random behaviour from guys using fina where as normaly they are quite stable - almost jekyll and hyde type behaviour.. best lean mass gainer there is though cant be beat for getting you leaner stronger and bigger all at once.. ;D
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yes the chart would be a great idea,
though to get down lean add in cardio? you say most bodybuilders don't even do cardio to diet down
lol cardio for what?
the gh and tren is enough to lean you out
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where do you live?
Poland. It's same all over eastern Europe. And sponsors? Don't make me laugh. World Championships golden medal winners don't get them.
Here if you're young and have degree at good uni and work as a programmer, engineer you may earn 1400$ tax free. Doctors, lawyers around 3000$. Teachers 860-1000$. Prison guards and guys like that 700$ max. Working at a shop maybe 350$ max. And most bodybuilders aint got any education except maybe some personal training course or some degree like dietetician osmt.
On average I believe people here don't have more than 200$ for gear alone a month. And that's only if you sacrifice everything. No family, no new clothes, no cinema, no partying, nothing.
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YOU CANT BUY 1 KIT OF NORDIC GH AT A TIME. SO THE PROBLEM AGAIN IS THE LACK OF BUYING IN BULK.
$300 A MONTH IS PEANUTS FOR ALL THIS STUFF.UR TALKING A LOT OF AAS/GH. I SPENT ABOUT $500 FOR A POSSIBLE 6-MONTH CYCLE THATS GOT NORDIC GH, STRANGO INJ., GENO TREN & EQ, AND SOME OF FLORA'S HG TEST.
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Alot of it depends on the person - we are all different in how we react to hormones - I have seen guys in tears on tren and have brutal mood swings where as myself other than getting a bit irritated easier Im quite stable on it though I do light up alot quicker than normal - My problem drug is nandralone, it has me all over the place like a mad womans piss.. you are one of the lucky ones as am I with tren but I have seen some random behaviour from guys using fina where as normaly they are quite stable - almost jekyll and hyde type behaviour.. best lean mass gainer there is though cant be beat for getting you leaner stronger and bigger all at once.. ;D
Same exact here...I'm a little 'shorter" now. But nothing crazy....I think it helps also that when i feel myself spooling up for no good reason, I think to myself "that's the tren talking...chill out douchebag"
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This is cracking info but pets be honest 90% of us don't want to be competitive size Infact we'd probably like to look like zyzz but with a set of arms. Post up how get that kind of ascetic physique.
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This is cracking info but pets be honest 90% of us don't want to be competitive size Infact we'd probably like to look like zyzz but with a set of arms. Post up how get that kind of ascetic physique.
same shit lower doses
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this shit is gold! time to regroup and order up!
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Hey gh00, why don't you tell these nitwits the truth about your life?
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To keep things in perspective, you gotta remember that gh15 said this is for bodybuilders and NOT a person just starting out. Very important.
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Poland. It's same all over eastern Europe. And sponsors? Don't make me laugh. World Championships golden medal winners don't get them.
Here if you're young and have degree at good uni and work as a programmer, engineer you may earn 1400$ tax free. Doctors, lawyers around 3000$. Teachers 860-1000$. Prison guards and guys like that 700$ max. Working at a shop maybe 350$ max. And most bodybuilders aint got any education except maybe some personal training course or some degree like dietetician osmt.
On average I believe people here don't have more than 200$ for gear alone a month. And that's only if you sacrifice everything. No family, no new clothes, no cinema, no partying, nothing.
Do you know the two guys you posted personally?
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lol cardio for what?
the gh and tren is enough to lean you out
for heart
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Do you know the two guys you posted personally?
I talk often with one of them on fb, second one is his friend and very promising Polish competitor. It's no secret they've got average income, one of them is prison guard. You don't even have to know their drug regimen (I don't) to assume it's basic. It's not like they do that on purpose, one of them really want to make it to another level and knows what it takes but he just cant afford it for the time being. Other one I dont know, but I think hes got great future and possibly will be next Polish pro.
My other good friend is 21 years old, hes now about 200lbs 5'8'' prolly around 8% bf and he's only on 500mg test per week. Gh15 may say what he wants but those guys really train VERY hard and it makes HUGE difference.
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I talk often with one of them on fb, second one is his friend and very promising Polish competitor. It's no secret they've got average income, one of them is prison guard. You don't even have to know their drug regimen (I don't) to assume it's basic. It's not like they do that on purpose, one of them really want to make it to another level and knows what it takes but he just cant afford it for the time being. Other one I dont know, but I think hes got great future and possibly will be next Polish pro.
My other good friend is 21 years old, hes now about 200lbs 5'8'' prolly around 8% bf and he's only on 500mg test per week. Gh15 may say what he wants but those guys really train VERY hard and it makes HUGE difference.
So you don't know these 2 guys personally. The thing is, bodybuilders are the same everywhere. They find ways to afford drugs, even if broke on paper. They hustle, for example sell a little (or a lot) to afford more gear themselves. I've seen guys not being able to afford good food but had a supply of hormones available.
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So you don't know these 2 guys personally. The thing is, bodybuilders are the same everywhere. They find ways to afford drugs, even if broke on paper. They hustle, for example sell a little (or a lot) to afford more gear themselves. I've seen guys not being able to afford good food but had a supply of hormones available.
Let's say I know more than I write but cannot go into details. Trust me, it's far from what you'd expect but not low either.
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lol cardio for what?
the gh and tren is enough to lean you out
FINALY ,, i was waiting for this,, GOOD PUPIL!
cardio... some will never learn ,, UNLESS YOU TRY TO GET DOWN TO 4% CARDIO IS NOT NEEDED! you can walk around sub 6 % with no cardio ,, zero cardio 5.5% with zero cardio!
gh15 approved
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Poland. It's same all over eastern Europe. And sponsors? Don't make me laugh. World Championships golden medal winners don't get them.
Here if you're young and have degree at good uni and work as a programmer, engineer you may earn 1400$ tax free. Doctors, lawyers around 3000$. Teachers 860-1000$. Prison guards and guys like that 700$ max. Working at a shop maybe 350$ max. And most bodybuilders aint got any education except maybe some personal training course or some degree like dietetician osmt.
On average I believe people here don't have more than 200$ for gear alone a month. And that's only if you sacrifice everything. No family, no new clothes, no cinema, no partying, nothing.
it ewill cost you less in poland ,, still learn to read english even if its broken ...it is 500-600$ first 2 months and then 300 dolaros from then on every 4-6 weeks ,, it is very cheap and this is really the chepeast it will get for you to get to the level im talking about,, read first what i said ,, i said troy alvez zone...are you his zone? you look very good but you are not his zone,, and i dont mean freaky muscle shape you got pretty freaky muscle groups...what i mean is the over all physiqe ,, thickness,, density and quality combine,, you need what i said there and you will have to come up with that money ,, period ,, it is not a lot and it is for the poor,,
i can tell you this....a profesional bodybuilder on the way to pro card USUALY spend a 4 year university tuition ,, private one! in many cases unles sponsored and even then its get payed
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Same exact here...I'm a little 'shorter" now. But nothing crazy....I think it helps also that when i feel myself spooling up for no good reason, I think to myself "that's the tren talking...chill out douchebag"
the mental problem with trenbolona ace come at high concentnration of high purity powder ,, not too many around ,, in general with the average trenbolona ....the side of menral diteriotion will come after prolong use not few weeks ,,
the time you start seeing trenbolona mental side is usualy when you are in the mid singles and really works with not much fat on you ,, and ofcourse when you been onit for prolonged time,, eventhough! you still may see the mental sides of it when mid single after short period of use if powder is high purity ,,
trenbolona like the strengo line is a serious quality trenbolona and the chef is a profesional ...it gets to you very fast especialy if you are mid singles to high singles ,, the sides are growth ofcourse and lower bodyfat and density and all the good stuff like hardness...but the sides are also....mental you are very fighty ,, you are very emotional and anxiety driven as in always think bad things will happen the head is just HEAVY on you ,, it can be dealt with mainly by going to sleep...but trenbolona of the highest purity may very well ruin your relashionship ,, it depends on the type of person you are and how good of a person you are from before...if you are quality person you will do ok ...if you are junk from before you will end up in problems
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I talk often with one of them on fb, second one is his friend and very promising Polish competitor. It's no secret they've got average income, one of them is prison guard. You don't even have to know their drug regimen (I don't) to assume it's basic. It's not like they do that on purpose, one of them really want to make it to another level and knows what it takes but he just cant afford it for the time being. Other one I dont know, but I think hes got great future and possibly will be next Polish pro.
My other good friend is 21 years old, hes now about 200lbs 5'8'' prolly around 8% bf and he's only on 500mg test per week. Gh15 may say what he wants but those guys really train VERY hard and it makes HUGE difference.
there is no friends in bodybuilding ,, you will learn it the hard way ,, stay away from them,, NO FRIENDS IN BODYBUILD,, and you dont know what they do ,, best friends usualy lie the most
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Let's say I know more than I write but cannot go into details. Trust me, it's far from what you'd expect but not low either.
do you see the way you look in your pictures? even this take lots of time and drugs,, its advance bodybuild it is on hormones! and it take a good number of products ,, and it will cost like i say it will cost unless you get deals or know the dealer or! cook powders yourslef
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the mental problem with trenbolona ace come at high concentnration of high purity powder ,, not too many around ,, in general with the average trenbolona ....the side of menral diteriotion will come after prolong use not few weeks ,,
the time you start seeing trenbolona mental side is usualy when you are in the mid singles and really works with not much fat on you ,, and ofcourse when you been onit for prolonged time,, eventhough! you still may see the mental sides of it when mid single after short period of use if powder is high purity ,,
trenbolona like the strengo line is a serious quality trenbolona and the chef is a profesional ...it gets to you very fast especialy if you are mid singles to high singles ,, the sides are growth ofcourse and lower bodyfat and density and all the good stuff like hardness...but the sides are also....mental you are very fighty ,, you are very emotional and anxiety driven as in always think bad things will happen the head is just HEAVY on you ,, it can be dealt with mainly by going to sleep...but trenbolona of the highest purity may very well ruin your relashionship ,, it depends on the type of person you are and how good of a person you are from before...if you are quality person you will do ok ...if you are junk from before you will end up in problems
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I used to have anxiety when I first used Tren every other day at 100mg, now I can handle 200mg every day without noticing any sudden mood changes. helps when you surround yourself with good people and positive environments. I'm at the point now I don't want to cycle off of it.
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So is this roughly how the cycle should look GH15,
Days1-25:
GH - 4iu's (2iu's morning/night)
Equipoise - 900mg (3 jabs/week)
Days 26-50:
GH - 4/5 iu's (2.5iu's morning/night)
Equipoise - 900mg (3jabs/week)
Tren A - 100mg (EOD)
Test P - 50mg (EOD/E3D)
Days 51-80:
Equipoise - 900mg (3jabs/week)
Test E - 900-1000mg (3 jabs/week)
Tren A - 500mg (5jabs/week) or stick to 100mg (EOD)
Masteron - 50mg (EOD, only if high estrogen)
Days 81-120:
Test E - 1000-1200mg (3jabs/week)
Equipoise - 900mg (3jabs/week)
Anadrol - 100-150mg (ED)
Masteron - 50mg (EOD)
GH - 6-8iu's (per day introduced on day 90, possible 6-8iu's EOD)
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I used to have anxiety when I first used Tren every other day at 100mg, now I can handle 200mg every day without noticing any sudden mood changes. helps when you surround yourself with good people and positive environments. I'm at the point now I don't want to cycle off of it.
Yeah.....I'm in no rush to get off my cycle either. BP is 117/63 at the docs last week, I feel great.
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Yeah.....I'm in no rush to get off my cycle either. BP is 117/63 at the docs last week, I feel great.
That's good to hear. I have been on for two years straight but cycle between compounds. Never truly off but know I can't been on forever. Will be 30 first of the year giving myself till 35 or until I have a kid first. Despite your reputation you have a great build (no homo)
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I've heard you say in past "5iu everyday or every other day." Here you say "you can even inject it every second day! at 6-8 iu a day then a day of no hgh then 8 iu a day then day of no hgh etc etc"
Big difference I would think between 5iu/ed and 5iu/eod (2.5/ed). Just like 6-8iu/ed and 6-8iu/eod which is 3-4iu/ed which is equal or less prescribed in the initial phase of pahse 3.
Is there a difference in the effects between 3iu/ed and 6iu/eod?
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wtf this shit went way beyond just eating talapia and bananas
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What the fuck is this? 500$ a month? That's montly income of half of my friends who bodybuild, lol, it's bodybuilding for the rich.
I dunno any bodybuilder which earns more than 900$ a month, that's only when you're either educated (after good uni) or had luck. You pay at least 300$ for your flat, food and water at least 300$ (everything is very expensive, 1kg (2.2pounds) of chicken breast is 5$ at least, that's 150$ chicken breast alone lol) then if you buy no clothes, nothing to wash, no supplements) you have 300$ left... of which usually 35$ is gym membership. So you have about 200$ left for your drugs and I repeat, it's only wealthy individuals who had that amount of money.
You have no idea about being poor honestly :O
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227060_222638564417289_100000134415925_1011776_7237765_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/181786_194406747251299_100000459257697_604278_244855_n.jpg)
With this amount of money you can still look like that...
O and I forgot to mention, it's not like you work 4 hours a day and that's it. In order to get that 900$ you have to work 8 hours a day 5 times a week man AT LEAST.
fantasistic physique deceiver I had no idea you looked like that. Extremely impressive
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So this is for someone looking to be competitive, correct? I was planning out my first cycle and it was going to be hgh for 3 months then tren+eq+mast+test, but instead I'm going the sust/npp/mast route after the hgh... would you consider this a good alternative route? I will be including dbol for the 1st six weeks and adrol for the second six weeks, and will have tbol and anavar on hand if I wanna switch out an oral.
Also, you leep mention nordic and that's very nice of you, but if you want an alernative reliable source google peppharm
How the fuck can you only inject in glutes when you are injecting 3 cc's daily? You would have scar tissue build-up within the first 3 months. THere are so many sites one can inject, why would you want to limit it to glutes only?
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So you don't know these 2 guys personally. The thing is, bodybuilders are the same everywhere. They find ways to afford drugs, even if broke on paper. They hustle, for example sell a little (or a lot) to afford more gear themselves. I've seen guys not being able to afford good food but had a supply of hormones available.
BODYBUILDERS ARE DRUG ADDICTS.
HOW DOES THE COKE HEAD STILL GET COKE?
REMEMBER THIS...GH15 SAY IT SO PEOPLE READ THIS WHEN THEY CHECK UR LATEST POSTS
THERE IS ALWAYS MONEY FOR DRUGS.
SOMEHOW,SOMEWAY DRUGGIES GET THEIR DRUG. JUST LIKE FATTIES GET THEIR CAKE.
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BODYBUILDERS ARE DRUG ADDICTS.
HOW DOES THE COKE HEAD STILL GET COKE?
REMEMBER THIS...GH15 SAY IT SO PEOPLE READ THIS WHEN THEY CHECK UR LATEST POSTS
THERE IS ALWAYS MONEY FOR DRUGS.
SOMEHOW,SOMEWAY DRUGGIES GET THEIR DRUG. JUST LIKE FATTIES GET THEIR CAKE.
that is correct,, and rest assure the cycles i give in this phases are 200-210 lb 5'10 fellas levels,, this aint no 250lb cycles,, this is minimum size to pass by as bodybuilder,, what i give you here is good enough for maybe 205lb 6%,,when it come to the 220 230 240 250 6% those are serious serious drug addicts ,, they stop at nothing,, they live on and like you said if they are not on you will not find them happy ,, you will find them in highly depressive mode
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gh15 approved
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gh15, are you a drug addict or a former drug addict ?
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How the fuck can you only inject in glutes when you are injecting 3 cc's daily? You would have scar tissue build-up within the first 3 months. THere are so many sites one can inject, why would you want to limit it to glutes only?
ok so I will inject in more areas lol, but only if I need to... I don't like this inject into arm into shoulder etc, not afraid of the needle but not fan of it either , btw posting drunk 4 first time
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ok so I will inject in more areas lol, but only if I need to... I don't like this inject into arm into shoulder etc, not afraid of the needle but not fan of it either , btw posting drunk 4 first time
Hey man, I'm posting pretty drunk right now too! Don't do it often but at least I can type (not for long..)!
Inject more than glutes though, my man. I'm Filipino so my skin is thick as shit and I can hardly hit the same spot a week later. Even using HG gear or gear with zero pip or inflammation my sites get sore as shit. I just pinned my quad though and I've got a hard pocket of what feels like gristle. Feels sick as shit going through that shit 8)
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Hey man, I'm posting pretty drunk right now too! Don't do it often but at least I can type (not for long..)!
Inject more than glutes though, my man. I'm Filipino so my skin is thick as shit and I can hardly hit the same spot a week later. Even using HG gear or gear with zero pip or inflammation my sites get sore as shit. I just pinned my quad though and I've got a hard pocket of what feels like gristle. Feels sick as shit going through that shit 8)
maybe this bodybuilding not for me lol
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maybe this bodybuilding not for me lol
I just got the shit end of the stick when it comes to injections and scar tissue. Other people I know aren't nearly as bad as me.
Pinning isn't too bad anymore though. I just make sure not to pin when I take stims, smoke weed or have little water in my system (muscle cramps!). Just banged back a couple mls into my quad and took a bath like a fuckin' boss lol
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my scar tissue gonna have scare tissue. goo dnight
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Gh15 , do you reccomend priming with gh and eq before contest prep cycle to?
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my scar tissue gonna have scare tissue. goo dnight
Just got some deep tissue massages from time to time to break it up and you'll be ok.
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Just got some deep tissue massages from time to time to break it up and you'll be ok.
Tbombz has been very busy lately fulfilling the cuckold fantasies.
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Tbombz has been very busy lately fulfilling the cuckold fantasies.
He won't recover.
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fantasistic physique deceiver I had no idea you looked like that. Extremely impressive
It's not me.
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there is no friends in bodybuilding ,, you will learn it the hard way ,, stay away from them,, NO FRIENDS IN BODYBUILD,, and you dont know what they do ,, best friends usualy lie the most
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I'm not a bodybuilder, neither planning to become one. I have better future in computer science than I will ever have in bodybuilding (prolly none). I do use drugs but in small amounts and only becouse in my country I wont have any legal problems due to my habits. So I don't have "bodybuilding friends" per se.
Those guys I truly admire and respect the fact that they are willing to make sacrifices in order to attain that level of physique. One of guys I know is prolly most friendly and outgoing guy you will ever meet. He hates bullshit and what I find funny is that even though he can't speak english he often says exactly what you write about recreational drugs among pros, synthol and severe drug abuse. Trust me everyone on semipro level in Poland wants to make it to another level and everyone is well aware of the fact that without gh and upping doses they're NOT gonna do that. But life is tough, sometimes you can't even workout due to amount of work and life problems and you can just maintain what you gained. Everyone uses 1g of test and rest of it accordingly but what I meant is that GH is definately out of option (for most guys with average jobs and no sponsorship) here. There are maybe few guys who are even rumoured to have used higher amounts of gh, like 10iu+ of legit gh (not some chinese crap).
When it comes to sponsors its funny but it's everything BUT physique that decides whos sponsored and whos not. Also dealing with Polish IFBB is tough. They ruined many pro physiques banning them for using drugs (you know, in theory we're all drug free LOL, it's not NPC).
(http://edouard.repka.free.fr/gallerie_photos/Competitions_2000/Photos/Europe39.jpg)
Mariusz Strzelinski. Didn't make it to pro ranks mostly due to Polish IFBB being morons.
(http://kif.pl/www/images/zoom/MYFXMC/Pila_MP_89r_Miroslaw_Daszkiewicz_pozowanie.jpg)
Mirosław Daszkiewicz. Competed against you in 1992 on Olympia. Ruined by IFBB as well.
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So is this roughly how the cycle should look GH15,
Days1-25:
GH - 4iu's (2iu's morning/night)
Equipoise - 900mg (3 jabs/week)
Days 26-50:
GH - 4/5 iu's (2.5iu's morning/night)
Equipoise - 900mg (3jabs/week)
Tren A - 100mg (EOD)
Test P - 50mg (EOD/E3D)
Days 51-80:
Equipoise - 900mg (3jabs/week)
Test E - 900-1000mg (3 jabs/week)
Tren A - 500mg (5jabs/week) or stick to 100mg (EOD)
Masteron - 50mg (EOD, only if high estrogen)
Days 81-120:
Test E - 1000-1200mg (3jabs/week)
Equipoise - 900mg (3jabs/week)
Anadrol - 100-150mg (ED)
Masteron - 50mg (EOD)
GH - 6-8iu's (per day introduced on day 90, possible 6-8iu's EOD)
that simplifies things, thanks for that 8)
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Good posts, deceiver.
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for people younger then 22/21 i assume there is no GH needed yet
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for people younger then 22/21 i assume there is no GH needed yet
& no A.A.S yet
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I like this plan but I think hgh is not for the poor. I mean students like me who dont work.
the test prop-eq-mast-tren is pretty cheap..hell even test enanth, eq, tren (no masteron) is a very good stack.
Im on legit enanth now 750 only and I look awesome. cant imagine adding eq and tren, never used eq but did tren in the past.
Im interested to see what eq can do to my already cannonball-formed delts. ;D 8)
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& no A.S.S yet
aspirin?
Holy shit, you're such a retard.
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& no A.S.S yet
what are you trying to say, ass or aas?
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& no A.S.S yet
that was not my question, my question was if it was needed to add hgh because gh15 mentioned it isn't needed at younger ages
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what are you trying to say, ass or aas?
AAS
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I just got the shit end of the stick when it comes to injections and scar tissue. Other people I know aren't nearly as bad as me.
Pinning isn't too bad anymore though. I just make sure not to pin when I take stims, smoke weed or have little water in my system (muscle cramps!). Just banged back a couple mls into my quad and took a bath like a fuckin' boss lol
does scar tissue go away with time though? Like if you were to just pin delts and quads for 6 months, could I get the scar tissue in my glutes to go away? I always read and was taught to only pin the upper outer quadrant of the glute, has anyone tried going lower or dead middle of the ass cheek?
Also every study I have read shows higher concentration of plasma hormone levels when injecting into the glutest, vs say a deltoid injection.
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does scar tissue go away with time though? Like if you were to just pin delts and quads for 6 months, could I get the scar tissue in my glutes to go away? I always read and was taught to only pin the upper outer quadrant of the glute, has anyone tried going lower or dead middle of the ass cheek?
Also every study I have read shows higher concentration of plasma hormone levels when injecting into the glutest, vs say a deltoid injection.
Don't go toward the middle of the ass-cheek. You run the risk of hitting your sciatic nerve. Personally, I think it's best to rotate injection sites, only hitting the same site once every 7-10 days.
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does scar tissue go away with time though? Like if you were to just pin delts and quads for 6 months, could I get the scar tissue in my glutes to go away? I always read and was taught to only pin the upper outer quadrant of the glute, has anyone tried going lower or dead middle of the ass cheek?
Also every study I have read shows higher concentration of plasma hormone levels when injecting into the glutest, vs say a deltoid injection.
Wrong, there are more androgen receptors in the delts resulting in higher absorption levels than glutes
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I like this plan but I think hgh is not for the poor. I mean students like me who dont work.
the test prop-eq-mast-tren is pretty cheap..hell even test enanth, eq, tren (no masteron) is a very good stack.
Im on legit enanth now 750 only and I look awesome. cant imagine adding eq and tren, never used eq but did tren in the past.
Im interested to see what eq can do to my already cannonball-formed delts. ;D 8)
Meso_Z as a student who don't work, do you ever come off ?
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Wrong, there are more androgen receptors in the delts resulting in higher absorption levels than glutes
It doesnt matter where you inject it. As long as the oil disperses in the muscle, it will all get absorbed the same.
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Meso_Z as a student who don't work, do you ever come off ?
I take time off but not when im going to "end a cycle"..its like a continious cycle..I just change dosages, add, take out compounds, cruise, blast...but yes i take time off. I mean completely off.
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meso you live in Greece correct?
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I take time off but not when im going to "end a cycle"..its like a continious cycle..I just change dosages, add, take out compounds, cruise, blast...but yes i take time off. I mean completely off.
Alright thank you, do you manage to keep your gains when you're completly off ?
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I've been off for a good 8 months off...
next cycle testosterona deca durabolina 1-test cypionata and anavarolina :P
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meso you live in Greece correct?
France, I have relatives there.
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It doesnt matter where you inject it. As long as the oil disperses in the muscle, it will all get absorbed the same.
I've also read studies that claim glute injects are better. I forget why. I have to look up the studies. It doesn't make sense to me. 200mg is going in one way or another, where it goes shouldn't make a difference. Maybe someone less lazy than me can look it up. Come on, Flintstone, what are we paying you for? Look it up for us.
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Ive noticed gh15 recommends injecting before bed.
Is it only for hgh or for aas too??
I tend to inject whatever time I can...morning, afternoon, night...before/after training.. It doesnt make any difference to me.
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I've also read studies that claim glute injects are better. I forget why. I have to look up the studies. It doesn't make sense to me. 200mg is going in one way or another, where it goes shouldn't make a difference. Maybe someone less lazy than me can look it up. Come on, Flintstone, what are we paying you for? Look it up for us.
AFAIK injecting in different muscles means different half lifes. Half lifes we know are based on studies where they injected glutes, for example delts are whole different story. It actually make sense since I would guess every body part got different blood flow thus there are differences in frequency of "flushing" test.
I would guess also that working out body part you injected makes some difference.
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meso you live in Greece correct?
he's in france
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he's in france
Merci mon ami. ;D
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I take time off but not when im going to "end a cycle"..its like a continious cycle..I just change dosages, add, take out compounds, cruise, blast...but yes i take time off. I mean completely off.
en période "off" , tu utilises pas de l' HCG ou clomid etc.. ?
combient sa dure t'es périodes "OFf" ?
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I like this plan but I think hgh is not for the poor. I mean students like me who dont work.
the test prop-eq-mast-tren is pretty cheap..hell even test enanth, eq, tren (no masteron) is a very good stack.
Im on legit enanth now 750 only and I look awesome. cant imagine adding eq and tren, never used eq but did tren in the past.
Im interested to see what eq can do to my already cannonball-formed delts. ;D 8)
I agree I'm a student too so we are beyond poor right now :D. Plus, if you don't live in USA it's not the same, I can afford basic stuff like test e, equipona, etc but things like tren, masteron and others are hard to get, I mean they're hard to find and expensives, and even if you get them they are prolly fake.
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AFAIK injecting in different muscles means different half lifes. Half lifes we know are based on studies where they injected glutes, for example delts are whole different story. It actually make sense since I would guess every body part got different blood flow thus there are differences in frequency of "flushing" test.
I would guess also that working out body part you injected makes some difference.
yup, exactly. glutes are best though for preventing scar tissue and they can take the most volume and the highest frequency too.
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en période "off" , tu utilises pas de l' HCG ou clomid etc.. ?
combient sa dure t'es périodes "OFf" ?
ta gueule, salope.
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salope seconds
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Ive noticed gh15 recommends injecting before bed.
Is it only for hgh or for aas too??
I tend to inject whatever time I can...morning, afternoon, night...before/after training.. It doesnt make any difference to me.
before bed is my recomendeed methods,,
injecting into ass is the only way i recomend injecting hormones even if you inject 500 times into the same ass cheek it all aborb ,, the scar tissue balonie is steroid boarding balonie myth as usual that you are fed ,, remember you want ot train ! you dont want to sit home due to injecing into legs or pecs lol for good sake who inject into pacs or lats lol gotta be nut caselol only inject into ass because this place give the least amount of complication insted something was not done right!,, also ass can take infections very well isolate them very well and resolved them from within very well and very fast,, not true to other locations,, everything injected into muscle will be used ,, now EVERYTHING INJECTED INTO SCAR TISSUE WILL also be used slightly slower but wil be used,, INFACT and this is between us...even if you didnt inject deep enough into muscle...IT WILL BE USED!,,
dont pay attention to balonie you fed up in steroid boardings,, its all myths ,,
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INFACT and this is between us...even if you didnt inject deep enough into muscle...IT WILL BE USED!,,
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Vince owning Dorian. 8)
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before bed is my recomendeed methods,,
injecting into ass is the only way i recomend injecting hormones even if you inject 500 times into the same ass cheek it all aborb ,, the scar tissue balonie is steroid boarding balonie myth as usual that you are fed ,, remember you want ot train ! you dont want to sit home due to injecing into legs or pecs lol for good sake who inject into pacs or lats lol gotta be nut caselol only inject into ass because this place give the least amount of complication insted something was not done right!,, also ass can take infections very well isolate them very well and resolved them from within very well and very fast,, not true to other locations,, everything injected into muscle will be used ,, now EVERYTHING INJECTED INTO SCAR TISSUE WILL also be used slightly slower but wil be used,, INFACT and this is between us...even if you didnt inject deep enough into muscle...IT WILL BE USED!,,
dont pay attention to balonie you fed up in steroid boardings,, its all myths ,,
gh15 approved
Thanks..
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the mental problem with trenbolona ace come at high concentnration of high purity powder ,, not too many around ,, in general with the average trenbolona ....the side of menral diteriotion will come after prolong use not few weeks ,,
the time you start seeing trenbolona mental side is usualy when you are in the mid singles and really works with not much fat on you ,, and ofcourse when you been onit for prolonged time,, eventhough! you still may see the mental sides of it when mid single after short period of use if powder is high purity ,,
trenbolona like the strengo line is a serious quality trenbolona and the chef is a profesional ...it gets to you very fast especialy if you are mid singles to high singles ,, the sides are growth ofcourse and lower bodyfat and density and all the good stuff like hardness...but the sides are also....mental you are very fighty ,, you are very emotional and anxiety driven as in always think bad things will happen the head is just HEAVY on you ,, it can be dealt with mainly by going to sleep...but trenbolona of the highest purity may very well ruin your relashionship ,, it depends on the type of person you are and how good of a person you are from before...if you are quality person you will do ok ...if you are junk from before you will end up in problems
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i think a lot of the issues w/tren stem from simply not being able to sleep at all while on it. that alone will fuck someone's life up pretty quickly.
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i think a lot of the issues w/tren stem from simply not being able to sleep at all while on it. that alone will fuck someone's life up pretty quickly.
this is where drugs like Ambien and Soma or Xanax or Valium serve their purpose. They aren't PK's, but this is also why so many Pros will go ahead and take narcotics too.
I mean, why not? A drug for a purpose, a drug to counter a side effect, a drug to get up, a drug to get through cardio, a drug like Viagra to keep the old lady slightly happy... on and on it perpetuates.
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yup, exactly. glutes are best though for preventing scar tissue and they can take the most volume and the highest frequency too.
Well, you are the expert on ass injections. BTW, how did the coocoo session go with the married couple? Just the fact that such a role play scenario even exist just shows the sorry ass state of men today.
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i think a lot of the issues w/tren stem from simply not being able to sleep at all while on it. that alone will fuck someone's life up pretty quickly.
The insomnia was the only side i got, it was terrible, great results from the Tren but i hardly slept for 3 months
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this is where drugs like Ambien and Soma or Xanax or Valium serve their purpose. They aren't PK's, but this is also why so many Pros will go ahead and take narcotics too.
I mean, why not? A drug for a purpose, a drug to counter a side effect, a drug to get up, a drug to get through cardio, a drug like Viagra to keep the old lady slightly happy... on and on it perpetuates.
we dont do cardio ,, we are not runners ,, we do cardio very limited from 6% to 4% ,, i dont know any bodybuild that would go do cardio to get to 6% ..you got to be nuts to do it with the hormones available
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before bed is my recomendeed methods,,
injecting into ass is the only way i recomend injecting hormones even if you inject 500 times into the same ass cheek it all aborb ,, the scar tissue balonie is steroid boarding balonie myth as usual that you are fed ,, remember you want ot train ! you dont want to sit home due to injecing into legs or pecs lol for good sake who inject into pacs or lats lol gotta be nut caselol only inject into ass because this place give the least amount of complication insted something was not done right!,, also ass can take infections very well isolate them very well and resolved them from within very well and very fast,, not true to other locations,, everything injected into muscle will be used ,, now EVERYTHING INJECTED INTO SCAR TISSUE WILL also be used slightly slower but wil be used,, INFACT and this is between us...even if you didnt inject deep enough into muscle...IT WILL BE USED!,,
dont pay attention to balonie you fed up in steroid boardings,, its all myths ,,
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Lats are my favorite place to inject. Painless and easy.
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Lats are my favorite place to inject. Painless and easy.
why would you inject your lats ???
haha you remind me of this guy at my gym when he told me he injects lats.. i straight out laughed in his face and told him he was a retard.. and so are you
injecting lats ::) ::)
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why would you inject your lats ???
haha you remind me of this guy at my gym when he told me he injects lats.. i straight out laughed in his face and told him he was a retard.. and so are you
injecting lats ::) ::)
maybe he likes to hang clean?
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maybe he likes to hang clean?
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why would you inject your lats ???
haha you remind me of this guy at my gym when he told me he injects lats.. i straight out laughed in his face and told him he was a retard.. and so are you
injecting lats ::) ::)
Agreed haha, I have never heard of someone injecting their lats! You have quads, glutes, ventro glute and delt. Plently of easy options, no need to be injecting in your lat
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Agreed haha, I have never heard of someone injecting their lats! You have quads, glutes, ventro glute and delt. Plently of easy options, no need to be injecting in your lat
It is popular - as is traps and pecs.. me, I stick to the places you mentioned ;D
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what is so bad about injecting traps
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anyone inject in toes?
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why would you inject your lats ???
haha you remind me of this guy at my gym when he told me he injects lats.. i straight out laughed in his face and told him he was a retard.. and so are you
injecting lats ::) ::)
if you lift weights for a while (which you obviously have not) your lats will be a nice meaty muscle that can hold at least 3ml in one shot. Regardless what GH15 tells you, the more you rotate your injection sites, the better off you will be in the longrun. To each his own.
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if you lift weights for a while (which you obviously have not) your lats will be a nice meaty muscle that can hold at least 3ml in one shot. Regardless what GH15 tells you, the more you rotate your injection sites, the better off you will be in the longrun. To each his own.
But seriously, how do you do it? What part of the muscle do you actually pin?
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But seriously, how do you do it? What part of the muscle do you actually pin?
http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm I usually brace the arm I am injecting with against the wall to make it easier.
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if you lift weights for a while (which you obviously have not) your lats will be a nice meaty muscle that can hold at least 3ml in one shot. Regardless what GH15 tells you, the more you rotate your injection sites, the better off you will be in the longrun. To each his own.
you dont inject into lats simply because its akward place...as simple as that no matter how much meat you have there,, the position the type of needle,, lats are tissue where it actualy hurt to inject into ...the actual process you cant be stable while injecting,, even if you are good in injections...its just nto a spot for inject,, last thing you want is prblem in your lats...abdolitly last thing you want ,,it also akward feeling to go with lats full of oil...
ass is something diff...you dont feel it there,, quads...it can be ok but not recomended by me,, delts...only gh and insulina and really thin thin oils such eqipona and tne or inject dianabol stuff that flow through 28 29 30 gauge,,
lats...dont know very weird place ,, pecs is very weird too ,, you dont inject anything close to heart i dont care how meaty your chest is...calves ...waste of time ,, traps lol i have nothing to say about it ,, lol
inject into ass...right cheeck and left cheek it will always be absorbed ,, always!
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you dont inject into lats simply because its akward place...as simple as that no matter how much meat you have there,, the position the type of needle,, lats are tissue where it actualy hurt to inject into ...the actual process you cant be stable while injecting,, even if you are good in injections...its just nto a spot for inject,, last thing you want is prblem in your lats...abdolitly last thing you want ,,it also akward feeling to go with lats full of oil...
ass is something diff...you dont feel it there,, quads...it can be ok but not recomended by me,, delts...only gh and insulina and really thin thin oils such eqipona and tne or inject dianabol stuff that flow through 28 29 30 gauge,,
lats...dont know very weird place ,, pecs is very weird too ,, you dont inject anything close to heart i dont care how meaty your chest is...calves ...waste of time ,, traps lol i have nothing to say about it ,, lol
inject into ass...right cheeck and left cheek it will always be absorbed ,, always!
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I agree with you on the quads. Anytime I have ever had a problem with an injection, it was in quads. For the lats, if you brace the arm you are holding the needle with against the wall, the injection is nice and steady. Honestly, it is the most trouble free area for me to inject besides glutes and delts and ventroglute. If i inject the same spot twice in one week it tends to be sore the next day, even if it is human grade gear, thats why I like to rotate sites.
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I've pinned lats, chest and even traps. Lats aren't so bad. Sometimes they feel really stiff but if you hit them the right way it goes in just fine.
I don't like chest because it's too close to the heart and feels weird. And traps... yeah, it went find but it makes you cringe. I was brainwashed into injecting every different muscle. Now it's just delts, quads and glutes.
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http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm I usually brace the arm I am injecting with against the wall to make it easier.
Checked out the site. Wow, hardcore. But couldn't they get a guy that worked out and juiced?
So which way do you do it? Lifting you arm over head or reaching around and getting it from the back?
This is an awesome sport!
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Checked out the site. Wow, hardcore. But couldn't they get a guy that worked out and juiced?
So which way do you do it? Lifting you arm over head or reaching around and getting it from the back?
This is an awesome sport!
arm over head. Honestly, though.....I usually just have my girl do it. Much easier :) but if I do it myself, arm of the lat being injected over my head and brace the injecting arm on the wall. hard to explain, but it works.
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I've pinned lats, chest and even traps. Lats aren't so bad. Sometimes they feel really stiff but if you hit them the right way it goes in just fine.
I don't like chest because it's too close to the heart and feels weird. And traps... yeah, it went find but it makes you cringe. I was brainwashed into injecting every different muscle. Now it's just delts, quads and glutes.
Next weekend I plan on hitting spot #1 pictured here. Can't wait. If I paralyze myself who can I sue?
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Next weekend I plan on hitting spot #1 pictured here. Can't wait. If I paralyze myself who can I sue?
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you are very lean, right? If your gear is thin enough, use a 27 gauge 5/8th inch needle to do the traps. put 1ml in each one and then go do some shrugs ;D I would highly recommend having someone else do your trap shots, though.
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guys lets stop bragging about injections and wait for phase 4 ;D
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I freak out when i read guys injecting into their chests..
stabbing yourself a needle where the heart is located is plain retarded.
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I freak out when i read guys injecting into their chests..
stabbing yourself a needle where the heart is located is plain retarded.
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I freak out when i read guys injecting into their chests..
stabbing yourself a needle where the heart is located is plain retarded.
How about in the back of you neck. That should be OK, right?
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How about in the back of you neck. That should be OK, right?
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Actually there was a few studys showing injections a little higher than the #1 on the pic shows that it will increase bio availability and half-life by 988% ..........
i'm surprised none of you guys knew this.. THIS IS THE SECRET.. brain injections 8)
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I don't see the big deal in injecting pecs or tri's and things like that. Glutes and delts are obviously the easiest and for most people all they will ever need but if you're injecting every single day, especially if you're pinning more than one pin per day it's nice to have some spots to move around with. If you're pinning every day I don't care how bad ass you are eventually your ass is going to get sore and it's just uncomfortable. If you have good clean you can inject almost anywhere. No matter where you inject it's all going to the same place, it's all absorbing into the blood.
That said I do think quads, traps and calves are generally poor choices. Too many nerves and it's very easy to run into painful problems that could have easily been avoided. Again, for most glutes and delts is all they'll ever need, after that pecs and tri's are good second options if needed.
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I don't see the big deal in injecting pecs or tri's and things like that. Glutes and delts are obviously the easiest and for most people all they will ever need but if you're injecting every single day, especially if you're pinning more than one pin per day it's nice to have some spots to move around with. If you're pinning every day I don't care how bad ass you are eventually your ass is going to get sore and it's just uncomfortable. If you have good clean you can inject almost anywhere. No matter where you inject it's all going to the same place, it's all absorbing into the blood.
That said I do think quads, traps and calves are generally poor choices. Too many nerves and it's very easy to run into painful problems that could have easily been avoided. Again, for most glutes and delts is all they'll ever need, after that pecs and tri's are good second options if needed.
not if you have top gear,, it can go same spot over and over and over and over and over and then some more over,, never a problem unless you yourself fuck injection ,, all top chefs gear is no problem injecting same spot you can do it even 5 times a day ,, wont matter
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not if you have top gear,, it can go same spot over and over and over and over and over and then some more over,, never a problem unless you yourself fuck injection ,, all top chefs gear is no problem injecting same spot you can do it even 5 times a day ,, wont matter
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If you have clean gear the injected area can still get sore after awhile. At least in my experience it can. Maybe it's one of those things where everyone is a little different but years and years of testoviron injections and my ass got sore, plain and simple. To this day I can't stick a pin in certain areas of my right glute. When I had my first TRT injection this year the nurse injected it into my right glute or at least she tried to. She hit that hard spot I'm referring to and it sounding like someone wadding up a bunch of tin foil. The pain was excruciating and this was 1cc of Watson Cypionate. So there has to be something to that.
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dont know ,, i go through scar tissue like the re is no tomorrow,, hell i inject into the scar tissue too,, always go into muscle always work ,, never a problem,, only time there shoudl be a problem is when the dumb cook and yes some cooks are dumb....put too much ba in the solution ...but with top chefs you get gold,, you can practicaly drink it ,, now lol dont go drink it pupils its a joke lol just make sure no one does ::)
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How about in the back of you neck. That should be OK, right?
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Sure it is. ;D
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If you have clean gear the injected area can still get sore after awhile. At least in my experience it can. Maybe it's one of those things where everyone is a little different but years and years of testoviron injections and my ass got sore, plain and simple. To this day I can't stick a pin in certain areas of my right glute. When I had my first TRT injection this year the nurse injected it into my right glute or at least she tried to. She hit that hard spot I'm referring to and it sounding like someone wadding up a bunch of tin foil. The pain was excruciating and this was 1cc of Watson Cypionate. So there has to be something to that.
gh15's cooks make gear that can go through a 29g pin. FACT!
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gh15's cooks make gear that can go through a 29g pin. FACT!
The fact that the gear can flow through a 29g does not automatically mean it is good gear. Try shooting testoviron through a 29 gauge and see what happens.
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need to be retard to shoot long ester testosteornw ith 29 or 30 gauge,,, what you shoot with 29 30 is tne...dianabola inject,, anadrola inject,,you can do equipona...will go easy,,etc,, long ester high concentration testosterona youll be better with 22 to 25 gauge,, preferably 22-23...for your comfortability
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i once saw a dude inject his friend's ass with 18g :o
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i once saw a dude inject his friend's ass with 18g :o
Was the friend's name "tbombz"?
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gh15's cooks make gear that can go through a 29g pin. FACT!
That's fine but that really doesn't have anything to do with what I'm talking about. Like someone else said, try shooting Testoviron through a 29g pin....not only would it be hard it would be just about impossible.
Then there's my script I referred to previously....Watson Cypionate is as good of a testosterone as you can find. I'm not saying it's the only good one but you can't make it any better. However, Watson Cyp unlike Testoviron you can push it through a 29g pin as it is a whole lot thinner. I'm not saying a 29g pin is the way to go but it'll work just fine if that's all you have.
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That's fine but that really doesn't have anything to do with what I'm talking about. Like someone else said, try shooting Testoviron through a 29g pin....not only would it be hard it would be just about impossible.
Then there's my script I referred to previously....Watson Cypionate is as good of a testosterone as you can find. I'm not saying it's the only good one but you can't make it any better. However, Watson Cyp unlike Testoviron you can push it through a 29g pin as it is a whole lot thinner. I'm not saying a 29g pin is the way to go but it'll work just fine if that's all you have.
Smooth as silk, I'd run it all the time if I was a jet setting millionare like the rest of GetBig.
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dont know ,, i go through scar tissue like the re is no tomorrow,, hell i inject into the scar tissue too,, always go into muscle always work ,, never a problem,, only time there shoudl be a problem is when the dumb cook and yes some cooks are dumb....put too much ba in the solution ...but with top chefs you get gold,, you can practicaly drink it ,, now lol dont go drink it pupils its a joke lol just make sure no one does ::)
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I have scar tissue buildup in other places too, especially the delts but the spot on my right glute is the only one that is painful to inject. It's not the oil going in that hurts it's the needle being in there to begin with. Sure, it'll still work, the oil is still going to absorb into the blood but why not move your pins around a little bit to ensure you never end up with a spot like this? I don't see the problem in that. If it's all absorbing into the blood then it shouldn't matter all that much unless it's an area full of nerves like calves, traps or quads...all stupid places to inject IMO, especially the first two.
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Smooth as silk, I'd run it all the time if I was a jet setting millionare like the rest of GetBig.
Watson Cyp and Scherring Testoviron Depot, I'd choose those two over any test on earth all day long if I could. You can't go wrong with either one. The Testoviron Depot even has that strong test smell of good test.
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I've pinned lats, chest and even traps. Lats aren't so bad. Sometimes they feel really stiff but if you hit them the right way it goes in just fine.
I don't like chest because it's too close to the heart and feels weird. And traps... yeah, it went find but it makes you cringe. I was brainwashed into injecting every different muscle. Now it's just delts, quads and glutes.
This 8)
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. If it's all absorbing into the blood then it shouldn't matter all that much unless it's an area full of nerves like calves, traps or quads...all stupid places to inject IMO, especially the first two.
Weird I've never had a problem with quads. I can put 3cc in there no problem. Delts though hurt me like a girl every damn time.
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friends,, in regard to phase 4,, it is going to be very big ,, very revealing ,, it will include names,, it will include bodybuilder names of users,, it will include some of the fake naturals and their relayance on specific products,, it will include everything doen during dial in and final stage ,, notice how no bodybuild unless truly truly natural look worse at the end of the process....there is a reason why we look better ,, phase 4 will reveal it all
from ephedrine doses to the way you cheat with ephedrine and buy it in americana walmart to the type of ephedrine and what fake naturals use to other fat burners including clenbuterol ,, it will include a talk about t3 and t4 it will include the abuse that epehdrine is having among bodybuilders and the reason why the hunger never really cease...NARCOTICS such as weed with the weak and hormoens such as equipona and others in blood ,, it will include diuretics and types ,, it will include how the bodybuilder chose to tackle final prep and yet doesnt seem to lose any size infact at times they grow to show.... it will explain why and the idea behind over use and abuse of fat burners while eating basicaly alot of calories and quite tasty food with out much limitations,, it will also include how hgh is incorperated into fat burners to achieve a blow up from within together with insulin ,, THE BODYBUILDER STILL USES FAT BURNERS HE RELY ON THEM DRAMATICALY TO REDUCE WATER BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE NOT ONLY ON DIURETIC,, it will include everything you need to know about modern bodybuilders and how it thinks ,, from dnp to diuretic to insulin and its interaction with ephedrine which is misunderstood by many,, it will include ofcourse the debunking of the myth that ephedrina make bodybuilder lose muscle ,,,NEVER EVER while on hormones,, it will explain why ephedrine is the pre diuretic before the introduction of prescribed diuretic ,, and! it will also discusss hwo important is to get int he body calories eventhough you prep,,,
its lots of information in phase 4 and it will take me some time to do it ,, i will put it out when its done
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Looking forward bossman.
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Excited. 8)
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Cant wait 8)
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good stuff...
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Poor dj181 is stuck at phase -3000
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Im looking forward to it
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WOW GOD!! excellent!! cant wait for this one.
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WOW GOD!! excellent!! cant wait for this one.
The fact you call him God gives me so much trust in gh15. 8)
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God can you please explain the synergy between fat burner like clen, hgh, and Tren ace/masteron especially someone like me who retains lots of water and thicker skin. Forgot diuretics.
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God can you please explain the synergy between fat burner like clen, hgh, and Tren ace/masteron especially someone like me who retains lots of water and thicker skin. Forgot diuretics.
A bump to this , can't wait
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im hard and waiting for phase 4
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This sums up how I'm feeling right now.
Can't wait!!
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phase 4's gonna be good 8) ;D
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hopefully gh15 gives an explanation how to properly use ephedrine,clen, T3... I've seen many guys become flat, fragile and in some cases muscle loss due to not having a clue on how to use them properly :-\
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gh15 is half the reason I come to this forum, tito is the other half lol, btw clitoris is tingling 4 phase 4
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Subscribe.
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Dick in hand pumping furiously whilst patiently awaiting Phase 4.
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gh15 is half the reason I live
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I can't wait. Really want to find out if ephedrine can help a natural.
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Poor dj181 is stuck at phase -3000
LOLOLOL....he is the most useless turd this place has ever seen ;D
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getting pretty hard
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LOLOLOL....he is the most useless turd this place has ever seen ;D
In the way we abuse a red headed stepchild I wish he would come back :D
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Epehdrine doesn't make you dry asshole, it's the caffeine they take with it that is a diuretic. For fuck sakes man. Don't try to fucking school me on ephedrine GH15. I was involved in this shit well before Bill Phillips published this magic ECA stack. But yet, I worked out with National Level Competitors that would take 4 25 mg tabs before a workout and anywhere from 8-12 in a day. Fucking insane junkies. But what I have found is that the real weight loss doesn't happen while on ECA it's while off. Once you stop your appetite goes insance and you want to eat everything, if you can control your food intake your metabolism is already running at full speed then you start to shed fat fast. This tends to happen after you've stopped taking it.
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Epehdrine doesn't make you dry asshole, it's the caffeine they take with it that is a diuretic. For fuck sakes man. Don't try to fucking school me on ephedrine GH15. I was involved in this shit well before Bill Phillips published this magic ECA stack. But yet, I worked out with National Level Competitors that would take 4 25 mg tabs before a workout and anywhere from 8-12 in a day. Fucking insane junkies. But what I have found is that the real weight loss doesn't happen while on ECA it's while off. Once you stop your appetite goes insance and you want to eat everything, if you can control your food intake your metabolism is already running at full speed then you start to shed fat fast. This tends to happen after you've stopped taking it.
god of hormona's word is final.
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Epehdrine doesn't make you dry asshole, it's the caffeine they take with it that is a diuretic. For fuck sakes man. Don't try to fucking school me on ephedrine GH15. I was involved in this shit well before Bill Phillips published this magic ECA stack. But yet, I worked out with National Level Competitors that would take 4 25 mg tabs before a workout and anywhere from 8-12 in a day. Fucking insane junkies. But what I have found is that the real weight loss doesn't happen while on ECA it's while off. Once you stop your appetite goes insance and you want to eat everything, if you can control your food intake your metabolism is already running at full speed then you start to shed fat fast. This tends to happen after you've stopped taking it.
shut your fuckin mouth of you mother fuckin son of a bitch ,, you dont talk to me this way ,, its the ephedrine who gets you dry and harder with hormones,, dont isguide my pupils for your over the counter balonie supplements ,, caffeine is junk and can be added for the heck of it if you want ot be awake like groink for many hours walking tipsy tip
you worked out with no one,,
IF ANY ONE OF YOU MORONS WORKED OUT WITH ANYTHING YOU WOULD BE SAYING THIS INFOAMRATION HERE FOR YEARS ,, YOU DONT! BECAUSE YOU HAV ENO INFORMATION BECAUSWE YOU NEVER WALKED THE WALK
WE USE EPEHDRINA TO DRY OUT BEFORE DIURETIC WITH THE HORMONES! ! ! AND THE MEGA DOSES OF ALL HORMONES GO ALONG WITH HIGHER DOSES OF EPHEDRINA! STOP LIEING STOP MILEADING STOP DOING THIS BALONIE YOU CULT OF FILTHY SKANKS
EPHEDRINE WILL NOT SHUT YOUR HUNGER IF YOU ARE TRULY LEAN AND ON THE RIGHT HORMONES! EPHEDRINE SPEED UP METABOLIZM IT WILL MAKE YOU EVEN HUNGRIER ,, DO NOT WRITE HERE BALONIE FOR MY PUPILS TO EVEN THINK ITS HALF WAY TRUE,,
EPHEDRINA IS THE REASON FOR CHIZELED FACES,, WHY DO YOU THINK PHILSULINA LOOK HIGH ALL THE TIME,, WHY DO YOU THINK EVERY BODYBUILDER HAS THIS HIGH LOOK IN THE EYES? AMPHETAMINES! ! ! ,,SOME TAKE NARCOTICS WITH IT! EVEN FASTER REACTION AND THIS IS HOW YOU DRY 100+ UNITS OF INSULINA A DAY WITH TONS OF HGH AND AAS,,
YOU DO NOT GET DRY NOTHING AT 200 NOTHING IF YOU EAT CLEAN WITH NO APMPHETAMINES,, YOU WILL LOSE MUSCULAR SIZE YOU WILL LOSE A LOT TO GET IN COMPETITION CONDITION ,,
ITS FUNNY HOW THE MOMNET I MENTION THE PRODUCTS WE USE ALL OF YOU MORONS JUMP IN LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS,,
NO YOU DID NOT...
REASON YOU ALL LOOK LIKE GYM RATS IS BECAUSE YOU FORGOT!! THE AMPHETAMINES! WHY? BECAUSE YOU HAVENT READ BIBLE SINCE 2007 JULY OR WHENEVER LAST TIME I TALK ABOUTIT! THIS IS WHY I NEED TO REPETDELY REAPEAT WHAT I SAY SO NO ONE FORGETS BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT GENERATION IM DEALING WITH HERE
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shut your fuckin mouth of you mother fuckin son of a bitch ,, you dont talk to me this way ,, its the ephedrine who gets you dry and harder with hormones,, dont isguide my pupils for your over the counter balonie supplements ,, caffeine is junk and can be added for the heck of it if you want ot be awake like groink for many hours walking tipsy tip
you worked out with no one,,
IF ANY ONE OF YOU MORONS WORKED OUT WITH ANYTHING YOU WOULD BE SAYING THIS INFOAMRATION HERE FOR YEARS ,, YOU DONT! BECAUSE YOU HAV ENO INFORMATION BECAUSWE YOU NEVER WALKED THE WALK
WE USE EPEHDRINA TO DRY OUT BEFORE DIURETIC WITH THE HORMONES! ! ! AND THE MEGA DOSES OF ALL HORMONES GO ALONG WITH HIGHER DOSES OF EPHEDRINA! STOP LIEING STOP MILEADING STOP DOING THIS BALONIE YOU CULT OF FILTHY SKANKS
EPHEDRINE WILL NOT SHUT YOUR HUNGER IF YOU ARE TRULY LEAN AND ON THE RIGHT HORMONES! EPHEDRINE SPEED UP METABOLIZM IT WILL MAKE YOU EVEN HUNGRIER ,, DO NOT WRITE HERE BALONIE FOR MY PUPILS TO EVEN THINK ITS HALF WAY TRUE,,
EPHEDRINA IS THE REASON FOR CHIZELED FACES,, WHY DO YOU THINK PHILSULINA LOOK HIGH ALL THE TIME,, WHY DO YOU THINK EVERY BODYBUILDER HAS THIS HIGH LOOK IN THE EYES? AMPHETAMINES! ! ! ,,SOME TAKE NARCOTICS WITH IT! EVEN FASTER REACTION AND THIS IS HOW YOU DRY 100+ UNITS OF INSULINA A DAY WITH TONS OF HGH AND AAS,,
YOU DO NOT GET DRY NOTHING AT 200 NOTHING IF YOU EAT CLEAN WITH NO APMPHETAMINES,, YOU WILL LOSE MUSCULAR SIZE YOU WILL LOSE A LOT TO GET IN COMPETITION CONDITION ,,
ITS FUNNY HOW THE MOMNET I MENTION THE PRODUCTS WE USE ALL OF YOU MORONS JUMP IN LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS,,
NO YOU DID NOT...
REASON YOU ALL LOOK LIKE GYM RATS IS BECAUSE YOU FORGOT!! THE AMPHETAMINES! WHY? BECAUSE YOU HAVENT READ BIBLE SINCE 2007 JULY OR WHENEVER LAST TIME I TALK ABOUTIT! THIS IS WHY I NEED TO REPETDELY REAPEAT WHAT I SAY SO NO ONE FORGETS BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT GENERATION IM DEALING WITH HERE
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Do you even fucking know what ephedrine is? You are comparing amphetamines to it, they are not the same class of drugs. You do not get chiseled from ephedrine. Not at all. It is not a water burner and not a fat burner. Those are both side effects. Read up on it. Use the google Gh, fucking use it. Do it fucking now. Search about ephedrine and how it affects weight loss.
Don't compare actual speed to ephedine. Two different drugs.
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what google ?? What are you crazy? im telling you from years of gettin chizeled face on it,, you need to be already lean !! epehdrine is amphetamine,, same thing ,, it is legal in americana and it is the best lean face team product you can get your hands on aside from diuretic ,,
trenbolona ace,, masterona,,ephedrina thsoe 3 together and you will have the manly face you so wanted ,, again if you have the bone cheeks...
ephedine is very very important in bodybuild,, i need no google because this is first thing i took when wanted water from hormones to reduce and to look like walking quality death ...again DOSE RELATED AND OFCOURSE DIURETIC RELATED BECAUSE YOU WONT LOOK COMPLETELY SUCKED IN WITH OTU DIURETIC
EPHERINE IS USED AND ABUSED GREATLY AMONG BODYBUILDER AND I MEAN 10 TABS A DAY TYPE OF GREATLY,, ofcourse 10 tabs a day = heart attack waiting to happen because it means you are abusing many other things,, 2-3 tabs of ephedrine wil go a loooooong way on the 200lb bodybuilder
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gh15 why did you only really start to post about the specific use of amphetamines in cutting until now? That shit has been a dark secret and has been used forever in bodybuilding circles...
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gh15 why did you only really start to post about the specific use of amphetamines in cutting until now? That shit has been a dark secret and has been used forever in bodybuilding circles...
because fellas seem to foget,, i remind ,, i posting about it back in 2006 2007 but felals of this generation already pm me telling me oh my god god of hormoens im on 2 gram of testosterona and a puff muff omg i take trenbolona and im ripped but this water wont leave me im doomed with thick skin ,,,so i think afetr read bible they should have known about ephedrina and amphetamine but i guess generation notghiness like to forget or has short term memo,, so i remind and remind and remind until all of you will know the bible in yoru sleep
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gh15 why did you only really start to post about the specific use of amphetamines in cutting until now? That shit has been a dark secret and has been used forever in bodybuilding circles...
Secret? Shit in early 90's bill philips called this the best fat burner out there then overnight every company started making the ECA stack. It is no secret, it is not part of the cult but became mainstream until too many idiots decided that if 4 pills a day helped then maybe 20 would be better and a couple heart attacks later the FDA jumped in. You were able to buy pure 25 mg pharma Ephedrine anywhere.
the truth why the FDA stopped it. Meth labs figured out how to chemically use ephedrine and that is what the feds jumped in. Anyways. No secret, still being used.
And GH15 has one MAIN point. You don't take ephedrine to get from 245-215. You take it when you get to 220 then you use it to get to 215.
Like I said GH15 I worked with national competitors that took 12 25 mg tablets a day. As much as 4 at a time. So I know the deal. I made a lot of fucking money selling ephedrine. I sold pharma quantity tabs by the millions in the early 90's. so there.
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ephedrine does chizzel your face :D
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can you substitute clenbuterol for ephedrine or do you recommend ephedrine instead, and this is question is for gh15 not the basement expert mon of steel haha
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you're a fucking idiot.
weight loss stops the second you stop taking it.
QFT
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god of hormona's word is final.
I've been meaning to congratulate you on your recent promotion from pupil to elf. I personally find it motivating and it gives the rest of us pupils something to aspire to.
I wish you continued success and happiness.
Sincerely,
Pellius
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I've been meaning to congratulate you on your recent promotion from pupil to elf. I personally find it motivating and it gives the rest of us pupils something to aspire to.
I wish you continued success and happiness.
Sincerely,
Pellius
Thank you pellius ;)
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BTW, I've been reading for years when this subject was first brought up in the bible that the other compound that comes with Bronkaid, Guaifenesin, diminishes or even drastically reduces the effects of the 25mg of Ephedrine sulfate. Also, the sulfate version isn't as good as the other one (can't remember the name).
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BTW, I've been reading for years when this subject was first brought up in the bible that the other compound that comes with Bronkaid, Guaifenesin, diminishes or even drastically reduces the effects of the 25mg of Ephedrine sulfate. Also, the sulfate version isn't as good as the other one (can't remember the name).
Ephedrine HCL ?
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BTW, I've been reading for years when this subject was first brought up in the bible that the other compound that comes with Bronkaid, Guaifenesin, diminishes or even drastically reduces the effects of the 25mg of Ephedrine sulfate. Also, the sulfate version isn't as good as the other one (can't remember the name).
2 bronkaids with 200 mg of caffeine and I'm dripping sweat all over the fuckin gym lol, it's gross really.
but gh15 is right as always, thanks gh15!
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I also sold and took loads of this stuff. Makes you down after a while. 8 at once and you can't pee lol
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Oh yeah fellas nothing I repeat nothing makes your Dick smaller lol
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Secret? Shit in early 90's bill philips called this the best fat burner out there then overnight every company started making the ECA stack. It is no secret, it is not part of the cult but became mainstream until too many idiots decided that if 4 pills a day helped then maybe 20 would be better and a couple heart attacks later the FDA jumped in. You were able to buy pure 25 mg pharma Ephedrine anywhere.
the truth why the FDA stopped it. Meth labs figured out how to chemically use ephedrine and that is what the feds jumped in. Anyways. No secret, still being used.
And GH15 has one MAIN point. You don't take ephedrine to get from 245-215. You take it when you get to 220 then you use it to get to 215.
Like I said GH15 I worked with national competitors that took 12 25 mg tablets a day. As much as 4 at a time. So I know the deal. I made a lot of fucking money selling ephedrine. I sold pharma quantity tabs by the millions in the early 90's. so there.
bronkaid is ephedrine just like any other ephedrine out there sulfate does the trick it is ephedrine and work amazingly well,, the product survive tdue to bodybuild and it is straight out ephedrine from your local walmart americana ,, one thing you will notice on ephedrine is....that it will chizel you with out you losing much weight if at all infact you will volumize yourself while doing its thing...now ephedrine is the finishing touch! inaddition to other things ofcourse but ephedrine is highly important ...all the money you spend on hgh and aas etc will go to garbage with out the ephedrine to bring it all home
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Ephedrine HCL ?
you want sulfate,, you want BRONKAID,, the other ones do not do the work needed,, the hcl for some reason doesnt do it the sulfate does ...why? i have no idea since it shoudl both do the job ,, but the sulfate the bronkaid make you look impressive after all the hgh aas bloat
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can you substitute clenbuterol for ephedrine or do you recommend ephedrine instead, and this is question is for gh15 not the basement expert mon of steel haha
no you cant,, either you chose clenbuterol or ephedrine,, clenbuterol you wil need to have taken out of system or add to it another chemical that make it last longer and make receptor beta sensetive to it ,, ephedrine work in a diff way and work none stop ...ofcourse liek with everything ....when it work none stop if you abuse it....you know what it mean,, it mean you may end up with heart attack on that little treadmil or stepper at 6 am in the morning,, remember friends use DO NOT abuse,, take some time off from epehdrine after yuo get to where you want,, it does the job real fast,, if you take 2 tablets a day it may take little longer time to get to where you want even if lean but you will get ther ein matter of weeks,, then stop it,, no one want to walk around looking 6% dry all year round ,, its not good for you friends,, it really is not goof for you ,, 6-8% wet is much better than 6% dry ,, you want to walk around the way groink composition is ...somewhere there while at time get it to high drive and chizel yourself into prep mode....
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BTW, I've been reading for years when this subject was first brought up in the bible that the other compound that comes with Bronkaid, Guaifenesin, diminishes or even drastically reduces the effects of the 25mg of Ephedrine sulfate. Also, the sulfate version isn't as good as the other one (can't remember the name).
you want the sulfate,, and the gua doesnt diminish anything,, ephedrine gets you high ,, short tempered if taken with trenbolona and ,,it gets you heat waves in the body like you a walking jacuzy ,, you can see the water go and the fat go ,,you can actualy see it in DAILY PICTURES from day to day on only 1-2 tablets a day 1/2 every 2 hours
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I also sold and took loads of this stuff. Makes you down after a while. 8 at once and you can't pee lol
first thing you will notice on epehdrine is that you go to pee more often since it is diuretic... if you take 8 tabs a day you just have nothing left to pee,, 8 tabs of 25 mg is serious dose and it will bring sides and with that type of drug and epehdrine is DRUG it also may take away muscle if not LOADED TO THE T WITH ALL THE HORMONES IN THE BODYBUILDER ARSENAL,,
for the 200lb half way hormonized bodybuild 2-3 tbas a day will do the trick,, 4 is a lot and will get you superb condition if trenbolona and masterona in the blood
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In Canada we still have ephedrine but it can only be purchased in 8mg tabs, the 25mgs are apparently too dangerous LOL
I just take two tabs a few times a day. I'll take 3 times three times a day and come off. Couldn't ever tolerate anymore than that, but it gets you ripped pretty quickly. Taking time off for a couple of weeks and then I'll hit it a lot harder now that I know how much others use. This shit gives you definite stim dick/turtle dick though.
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Could you talk about t3 and t4 and how you reccomned using them ? Thanks
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Could you talk about t3 and t4 and how you reccomned using them ? Thanks
he will in phase 4
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Do you even fucking know what ephedrine is? You are comparing amphetamines to it, they are not the same class of drugs. You do not get chiseled from ephedrine. Not at all. It is not a water burner and not a fat burner. Those are both side effects. Read up on it. Use the google Gh, fucking use it. Do it fucking now. Search about ephedrine and how it affects weight loss.
Don't compare actual speed to ephedine. Two different drugs.
Ephedrine is similar in structure to the (semi-synthetic) derivatives amphetamine and methamphetamine.
Ephedrine is a substituted amphetamine and a structural methamphetamine analogue. It differs from methamphetamine only by the presence of a hydroxyl (OH). Amphetamines, however, are more potent and have additional biological effects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedrine
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first thing you will notice on ephedrine is that you go to pee more often since it is diuretic... if you take 8 tabs a day you just have nothing left to pee,, 8 tabs of 25 mg is serious dose and it will bring sides and with that type of drug and epehdrine is DRUG it also may take away muscle if not LOADED TO THE T WITH ALL THE HORMONES IN THE BODYBUILDER ARSENAL,,
for the 200lb half way hormonized bodybuild 2-3 tbas a day will do the trick,, 4 is a lot and will get you superb condition if trenbolona and masterona in the blood
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gh15- Why does ephedrine make some people mean monsters? Its the only drug Ive taken that's brought out nastiness.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedrine
mon of steele is a dumbass... disregard him
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2 bronkaids with 200 mg of caffeine and I'm dripping sweat all over the fuckin gym lol, it's gross really.
but gh15 is right as always, thanks gh15!
No aspirin? What's the aspirin for anyway?
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No aspirin? What's the aspirin for anyway?
reduction of blood pressure mainly..
caffeine does nothing for water/fat loss... only to keep you "energized/alert" etc etc
ephedrina is the key !!
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BTW, I've been reading for years when this subject was first brought up in the bible that the other compound that comes with Bronkaid, Guaifenesin, diminishes or even drastically reduces the effects of the 25mg of Ephedrine sulfate. Also, the sulfate version isn't as good as the other one (can't remember the name).
Guafesin has no effect on ephedrines thermogenic effects.
Sulfate has a much shorter half like, about 2 hours, vs 6 hours with HCL. HCL is far superior for fat burning.
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reduction of blood pressure mainly..
caffeine does nothing for water/fat loss... only to keep you "energized/alert" etc etc
ephedrina is the key !!
Actually, caffeine has been proven to be "carbohydrate sparing" and targeting fat stores more. It's also a well know diuretic.
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Actually, caffeine has been proven to be "carbohydrate sparing" and targeting fat stores more. It's also a well know diuretic.
ok caffeine has it's benefits and could be used as a mild diuretic but i'm talking about the amphetamine part of ephedrine and what it does to ones body.. the dryness.. chizzeled face.. nothing caffeine will do to you.. or atleast not to the extend ephedrine will
personally i've never seen it target fat stores.. from hands on .. to other bodybuilders.. ever seen a fat person on meth? there u go
i've seen tons of caffeine addicts and are fat as shit..
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gh15- Why does ephedrine make some people mean monsters? Its the only drug Ive taken that's brought out nastiness.
anything that changes your body omeostasis of wanting to have enough water in it to maintain omeostasis ,,anythihg that changes bodyfat composition ....will get you to become a short tempered argumentive sob,,this is just the way it is ,, they all cause a spikes of raised blood pressure even temporarily that the body bring back to equilibrium but thsoe spikes.. while the body fat go down and water being shed...makes you a nasty fella,,you can control it but its quite hard,,still controlable
look at your forarms when you take ephedrina ...with out even doing anything veins poping all over ...you had them before hand but the skin get thinnnnnnn and the veins pop out ...not only on the forarms but all over,, and its a problem,, it get to a point it hurts while lifting weights...the actual skin is stretched so tight on the veins that it hurts,,
bodybuild has nothing to do with genetic it is all chemical warfare and mainly the ability of one to sustain this warfare and to stand last,,the best bodybuilder is the one who respond best to hormones and can STAND THE LONG CONTINIOUS APPLICATION OF HORMONES INTO BLOOD WITH MINOR TO NO SIDE EFFECTS,,
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shut your fuckin mouth of you mother fuckin son of a bitch ,, you dont talk to me this way ,,
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GH15 ive noticed that in sites like amazon they dont sell it like they used to..infact they have "banned" bronkaid along with primatene cmpletely. Thats a problem for us "international customers"...we dont have "walmarts" here.
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anything that changes your body omeostasis of wanting to have enough water in it to maintain omeostasis ,,anythihg that changes bodyfat composition ....will get you to become a short tempered argumentive sob,,this is just the way it is ,, they all cause a spikes of raised blood pressure even temporarily that the body bring back to equilibrium but thsoe spikes.. while the body fat go down and water being shed...makes you a nasty fella,,you can control it but its quite hard,,still controlable
look at your forarms when you take ephedrina ...with out even doing anything veins poping all over ...you had them before hand but the skin get thinnnnnnn and the veins pop out ...not only on the forarms but all over,, and its a problem,, it get to a point it hurts while lifting weights...the actual skin is stretched so tight on the veins that it hurts,,
bodybuild has nothing to do with genetic it is all chemical warfare and mainly the ability of one to sustain this warfare and to stand last,,the best bodybuilder is the one who respond best to hormones and can STAND THE LONG CONTINIOUS APPLICATION OF HORMONES INTO BLOOD WITH MINOR TO NO SIDE EFFECTS,,
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Got it. This is why lower carbs,energy drinks and especially ephedrine give me the nasties.
It IS hard to controll that nasty feeling, the last time I did ephedrine the meltdown came in the lobby of my Dentist.
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bodybuild has nothing to do with genetic it is all chemical warfare and mainly the ability of one to sustain this warfare and to stand last,,the best bodybuilder is the one who respond best to hormones and can STAND THE LONG CONTINIOUS APPLICATION OF HORMONES INTO BLOOD WITH MINOR TO NO SIDE EFFECTS,,
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Hi mr NasséR sanbaty
is proféssionaL bodybuilding a healthy sport?
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I LOL'D AT THAT PART TOO.
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In Canada we still have ephedrine but it can only be purchased in 8mg tabs, the 25mgs are apparently too dangerous LOL
I just take two tabs a few times a day. I'll take 3 times three times a day and come off. Couldn't ever tolerate anymore than that, but it gets you ripped pretty quickly. Taking time off for a couple of weeks and then I'll hit it a lot harder now that I know how much others use. This shit gives you definite stim dick/turtle dick though.
That's the HCL version though, gh15 is talking about ephedrine sulphate.
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That's the HCL version though, gh15 is talking about ephedrine sulphate.
I believe so. The UGLs sell sulfate tabs in larger doses though. I still get shredded either way.
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you want the sulfate,, and the gua doesnt diminish anything,, ephedrine gets you high ,, short tempered if taken with trenbolona and ,,it gets you heat waves in the body like you a walking jacuzy ,, you can see the water go and the fat go ,,you can actualy see it in DAILY PICTURES from day to day on only 1-2 tablets a day 1/2 every 2 hours
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God, you say 1-2 tabs a day AND 1/2 every 2 hours..... to be considered not abusing ephedrine what is the most tabs we can take in a 24 hour period?? I have been taking a total of 4 tabs a day of bronkaid. 1 at 6am, 9am, noon and 3pm. If I bump all of these to 2 tabs every 3 hours and take a total of 8 tabs in a 24 hour period would that be considered abuse? Im 225 and 5'10 in the low double digits of bf working to get down to the singles with hgh, tren, prop and mast. Thanks for clearing this up
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At 48 years old, it's tough reading this shit anymore.
You youngsters wait. Just wait.
This new generation of bodybuilding "Pros" will not see grandchildren. Mark my words.
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God, you say 1-2 tabs a day AND 1/2 every 2 hours..... to be considered not abusing ephedrine what is the most tabs we can take in a 24 hour period?? I have been taking a total of 4 tabs a day of bronkaid. 1 at 6am, 9am, noon and 3pm. If I bump all of these to 2 tabs every 3 hours and take a total of 8 tabs in a 24 hour period would that be considered abuse? Im 225 and 5'10 in the low double digits of bf working to get down to the singles with hgh, tren, prop and mast. Thanks for clearing this up
i recomend ephedrina when already in the single digit and try to really shed water and little fat to stand 6%,, never the less just to give you example....im a pro and i used maybe 4-5 tabs a day and that was on LOADS of hormones that made me water fountain ,, usualy the typical 190-200lb bodybuild will do well on 1-2 tabs a day ,, i recomend every 2 hour half the dose you woudl take every 4 hour ...just keep blood levels stable ,, i know many who take 10 tabs a day ,, it is abuse yes ,, 10 tabs a day is asking for heart atack 5 tabs a day is ok for a big lean fella,,i personaly think that 2-3 tabs a day shoudl do the work if you are lean
3 tablets of 25 mg epehdrina each ...thats 75 mg ephedrina into the blood in a 24 hour period ,, if you are lean it shoudl be enough ,, then again! today the typical true natural lol take 100mg of bunch of under the radar amphtamines a day ...so the true natural lol the ones who dont use hormones take 200mg total that mean 2 time a day pills that contain amphetamines.... do you understand now why i say this natural thing is a joke? bodybuild can not happen with out chemicals my friend,, never was never is and never will be
everyone is hormonized and drugged
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i recomend ephedrina when already in the single digit and try to really shed water and little fat to stand 6%,, never the less just to give you example....im a pro and i used maybe 4-5 tabs a day and that was on LOADS of hormones that made me water fountain ,, usualy the typical 190-200lb bodybuild will do well on 1-2 tabs a day ,, i recomend every 2 hour half the dose you woudl take every 4 hour ...just keep blood levels stable ,, i know many who take 10 tabs a day ,, it is abuse yes ,, 10 tabs a day is asking for heart atack 5 tabs a day is ok for a big lean fella,,i personaly think that 2-3 tabs a day shoudl do the work if you are lean
3 tablets of 25 mg epehdrina each ...thats 75 mg ephedrina into the blood in a 24 hour period ,, if you are lean it shoudl be enough ,, then again! today the typical true natural lol take 100mg of bunch of under the radar amphtamines a day ...so the true natural lol the ones who dont use hormones take 200mg total that mean 2 time a day pills that contain amphetamines.... do you understand now why i say this natural thing is a joke? bodybuild can not happen with out chemicals my friend,, never was never is and never will be
everyone is hormonized and drugged
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So one pill at 6am, 8am and 10am? Ive only used it for 2 days and already felt tons of water release I was holding in my lower legs.
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Im liking Tito's nipples :D
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Ive already gone into phase 4 with your mom.
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Ive already gone into phase 4 with your mom.
In the words of Napoleon Dynamite's friend: "Is she hot?"
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In the words of Napoleon Dynamite's friend: "Is she hot?"
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Bump for more info :)
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Bump for more info :)
Use the search botton..
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Yes, bump... ready for phase 4.
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Recommend for a nattie? Or is it going to flatten you out?
Oh nice pics Tito. ;)
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Use the search botton..
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gh15 has like 5000 posts, what kind of "info" is this fucktard "searching for" that hasnt been written by gh15?
Maybe he wants gh15's g4p rates. who knows :D ;D
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Yeah, the bible... I've read it. He was putting together Phase 4 of "bodybuilding for the poor" and if you read the OP apparently it's going to have some more detailed info.
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Been checking daily for it since this thread was started!!
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gh15 has like 5000 posts, what kind of "info" is this fucktard "searching for" that hasnt been written by gh15?
Maybe he wants gh15's g4p rates. who knows :D ;D
Easy killer , I just wanted some more info on how he reccomends cycling t3 and t4, I have done lots of seachs
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soon guys 8)
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Easy killer , I just wanted some more info on how he reccomends cycling t3 and t4, I have done lots of seachs
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This is going to be a good one, I can feel it.
(I also got blue balls for turning down that married whore who wants to blow me btw)
Anyway, bring it on gh15!!!
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i only had blue balls one time in my life, i wonder what are the mechanics of it
(slept over with a girl from school, she put on the porn channel on her wide screen tv, once in bed i rubbed her pussy, she moaned but told me no "it's not that i dont want i just can't, stop before i cant stop anymore" LOL @ me actually thinking she wanted me to stop. I was 17 and clueless :-\ )
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I DON´T HAVE ANY BALLS...TOO MUCH TEST AND SHIT HAPPENS...BUT YO MAN! FUCK THAT BITCH GETBIG STYLEE!
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potential nobel prize winner right there :)
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This is going to be a good one, I can feel it.
(I also got blue balls for turning down that married whore who wants to blow me btw)
Anyway, bring it on gh15!!!
sounds like you turn her away because you are not really into women and you are afraid to come out so get your self a male blow up doll and have fun getting rid of your blue balls.
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sounds like you turn her away because you are not really into women and you are afraid to come out so get your self a male blow up doll and have fun getting rid of your blue balls.
why don't you find a black man with dread locks out in the street to fuck you in the ass?
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hey trainer, while you're at it, make sure to invite vince goodrum to join you with dreadlock fella, you can suck him off while you take it in the ass, and they can swap your punk, little bitchass for hours on end, dreadlock can cum on your eyes, maybe vince will nut in and around your cornhole, you dumb little bitch
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potential nobel prize winner right there :)
look at how wideeeeeeeeee he was,, could hav ebeen mr o ,, could have ,, would have,, his wife woundt let him near bodybuild after what happened
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look at how wideeeeeeeeee he was,, could hav ebeen mr o ,, could have ,, would have,, his wife woundt let him near bodybuild after what happened
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gh15, when can we expect Phase 4 to the bodybuilding for the poor with everything you mentioned that would be in there???
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as soon as its written ,, im too lazy to write it all ,, i did some,, ill put it out when its doen
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Can't wait :)
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as soon as its written ,, im too lazy to write it all ,, i did some,, ill put it out when its doen
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translation: you'll have to wait until Nasser is on, I (gh15) am someone else right now :D ;)
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as soon as its written ,, im too lazy to write it all ,, i did some,, ill put it out when its doen
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the smoking gun!!
gh15 is wiggs!!!!!!
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look at how wideeeeeeeeee he was,, could hav ebeen mr o ,, could have ,, would have,, his wife woundt let him near bodybuild after what happened
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Is it true that when he wasn't training he'd sit around at home all day reading comic books and playing video games?
That's the life style I'm shooting for.
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Just slammed a carton of egg whites with some International Delight coffee creamer. It's actually really good!
Next is some pineapple from the can while I sit with a half chub in eager anticipation of new bible advices. WOOO!!
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Just slammed a carton of egg whites with some International Delight coffee creamer. It's actually really good!
I'm thinking three 1/2 liter cartons of egg whites a day now (without anything mixed in it), felt weird at first but pretty normal now.
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look at how wideeeeeeeeee he was,, could hav ebeen mr o ,, could have ,, would have,, his wife woundt let him near bodybuild after what happened
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Orville was all drugs...Lots of slin. Under the helm.of Oscar Arden...skin too thick, random parts thrown together, lazy and a gut. Would never be Mr. O. Ever.
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I'm thinking three 1/2 liter cartons of egg whites a day now (without anything mixed in it), felt weird at first but pretty normal now.
Yeah. At first I nearly cursed gh15 and everyone who said it's tasteless. There's a salty, weird after taste but it's very faint now.
International Delight, a banana, peanut butter and scoop of protein is what I toss in my morning shakes along with a half carton of egg whites and a tray of ice cubes. I can't stop drinking these things.
I weighed myself for the first time in a while and was 5lbs heavier than expected too. I thought with sharper abs that I had lost weight! 8)
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this is the meat and potatos phase,, now i will go on starting writing everything you need to listen and follow,,
this is meant for bodybuilders! ,, this is not meant for 15 year old that just enter gymnasium 1 month ago,,
this is a phase 3 of bodybuilder for the poor,, i will bring bring you to the mountain ,, i will help you get to troy alvez type of physiqe! but! from then on you are on your own ,, you will need much more money or sponsor to get to what you see today at the top,, so i will bring you up to 220 6% but from then you are on your own friends,,
phase 1 and 2 are must follow ,, and follow directly as i wrote it there,,yes you can chnage fish type but over all follow directly as i wrote it
ingredients needed,,you will have to put some money investment but since you save on supplmenet you wil have this money,,
again this is a program to follow for the fella with the worst bodybuild genetic out there aka vince goodrum and bring him up to ron heris level,, so if you are better and most likley you are...you will end up looking at the level zoen of troy alvez minus the years of experience and muscle maturity
ingredients
testosterona propioneta 100mg/ml 2 vials
testosterona enantato 250mg/ml or 300mg/ml or 350mg/ml depending on your contact ofcourse and wether human grade or private chef 2 vials
trenbolona ace ,, this is HIGHLY IMPORTANT 100mg per cc only ace! 2 vials
masterona 100mg per cc 2 vials
equipona 300mg per cc 2 vials
human growth hormone 1 kit 100iu only! nordic ! AGAIN ONLY NORDIC GH!
thats it ,, all you need you will need to buy it every single month so this will be an expense of about 500-600 dollaros first time around and then from third month! you will only need to put 300 dollaors a month ,, which is equal to your supplment sepdning,, this is the cheapest it can be to get to advance level bodybuild 300 dollaros every 4-8 weeks is the cheapest possible way to get there i cant get it any cheaper for you im sorry ,, most bodybuild spend 1000s in a matter of a 3 month period thousands of dollars! sometimes surpassing 10 k in a matter of 90 days
so this is not your case...you will need 500-600 for first 2 months and from then on 300 dolaros every month
alright,,
injection should be done every time before bed,,
i also want all injects to be done into the ass right and left cheeks ,, again this is your responsbility to be bodybuilder i write my own opinions and i discuss matters for enterntainment only...
i want you to start within PRIMING YOUR BODY with hgh ,, that mean you will work hgh into your body for 30-60days as a prime 4 iu a day ,, only 4 iu you hear that right just make sure you get nordic hgh and no other gh! you want that gh because it is the purest one and you want to get the most out of your gh,, yes you can find other decent and good gh but nordic gh never seem to dissapoint for years upon years going already close to 10 years
now,, i want 4 iu into DELTS 2 iu morning when wake up 2 iu night,, yes only this way and just train ,, do it for 25 days along with equipona at 900mg 3 times a week monday wed friday 300 mg each time that is it! no testosterona yet,, at the end of this 25 days i want you to add trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day! make sure it is LEGIT TRENBOLONA at 100mg every second day and continue with the second kit of gh for another 25 days at 4-5 iu a day 2.5 and 2.5 morning when wake up and night before sleep
now,, at the same time you add trenbolona ace i want you to add propioneta at 50mg! every 2nd to 3rd day depending on your own feeling since i cant see you you will decide but not every day! every second to third day,, 50 mg!
when 50 day mark arrive i want you to take the enantato ,,and do a 3 time weekly injectiong of 300mg each time mon wed and friday,, can also be tuesday thursday and saturday all up to your choice and how you do things and if you are lazy some fellas like to take their sweet time thats how bodybuild do at times,, this will give you 900-1000mg of testosterona enantato a week when you are done 50-60 days of hgh prime ,, with the enantato i want you to INCREASE the trenbolona to 100 mg every day 5 times a week ,, it is NOT easy ! trenbolona ace is very very tricky it works on your brain it change your personality even if you think it doesnt it does ,, it is the strongest personality change hormone out there but it is also a must to achieve any of today condition ,,you need to be careful with it if you can not tolerate every day 100mg you will have to continue every second day 100 mg ,, but if you can then 100mg a day will be better for this phase
so ,, enantato 900-1000 mg a week ...trenbolna ace 100 mg a day or if really cant 100 mg every 2 days,, and! NO ANTI ESTROGENS! i want you to introduce masterona if you have problem with high estrogen after 50 days! you should not have any problem but if you do introduce masterona at 50mg every 2 days! the masterona i stil dont want in only if you suffer from high levels of estrrogen which you shoudl not not even when you get on 1000 mg testosterona yuo still should be ok with estrogen ,,
now the masterona itself i want you to introduce after 3 weeks on enantato at 1000 mg ,,
so what we have until now,,
we have day 51 start,, you go on enantato 900-1000 mg a week,, you still keep equipona at 900 mg ,, you have trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day and after another 3 weeks you add in masterona at 50mg every second day ,, you can! combine injections,, it is all oil shoudl be no problem but it is still usualy 3 injects a week atleast no matter how you do it ,, you want it at 3 day injection a week so its ok ,,
now you will notice that by day 80-90 from your start you pretty much suddenly look like one of the best bodybuilder to ever touch foot in your gymnasium ,, this is in 3 months! you still wont be quality of top bodybuilder due to maturity and experience and time ,, and also due to lack of products notice you are poor! there are some things you can not do like bodybuilder with more money,, but you can defenitely have better quality physiqe than them
so....
day 80-90 you REINTRODUCE HGH to the blood,, do it on day 90 ,, this time you LEAVE testosterona enantato in may even increase it to 1200mg a week dependign on personal choice,, you leave equipona in still 900mg and you take trenbolona ace out! insted of trenbolona ace you bring in anadrola preferebly solution and do 100-150mg every day ,, again preferably injectable! you can still do orals too,, rememer you take out the trenbolona ace! you do gh again for 30 days this time you do it at 6-8 iu a day only for 30 days! if you can afford 60 it will be better for you but 30 will be ok too ,,you can even inject it every second day! at 6-8 iu a day then a day of no hgh then 8 iu a day then day of no hgh etc etc
you will then approach 120 days which is 4 months since you started and i will want you to start reducing the testosterona doses again ,, i will make phase 4 in next few days to discuss the next steps,,
again the nex phase will involve the possibility of diuretic application and a quick discussion about insulina and why im against it ,, it will also involve what needed to get to the 220 + at cometition condition because all those fellas are addicted to insulina and gh ,, you just dont step on stage 5'7 220 shredded if you are not hgh and insulina addict,, so we will talk abotu it too but again you are poor so i bring you up to 220 6% from then you will either have to find a good job or will have to have help or do something to get the ability to proceed,, most good bodybuilder at 200lb wipe floor with heavier bodybuilders...especialy if in light heavy classes ,, so its not that bad to get up to 200 210 220 6% my friends,, and this is the way you do it ,,
few things,,
you never give up! no matter what you see in the mirror after 11 days ,, you dont just say oh im tired of this,, you will see a lot in the mirror after lefit gh been in your blood for 11 days but! 11 days is not enough time to create body compsition change it takes some more time,, this is 120 days here that you should start ,, then will go to phase 4 which will polish the physiqe and bring it to competition level ,, not stage ready but pretty much 2 weeks out ,, i dont think yuo need it for every day life....but in general if you can get to look 200+ 6% on every day life at 5'10 or under no one will mistaken you for anything other than bodybuilder and you will be the best in your city in most cases,,
good luck to all ,,
phase 4 will come in few days
sealed bible index,,
gh15 approved
Got into this thread late because I am busy training clients, you do not need all that crap if you are a novice bodybuilder. 500mg sustanon 250 weekly plus 25mg dianabol daily thats all you need to grow. if you are worried about getting bloated just add 50mg of proviron daily .
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No no no if your going very basic test and tren.
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PLEASE PHASE 4 COME WITH THE SAME SPEED AS NO ESTER TEST!!!
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bump
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Got into this thread late because I am busy training clients, you do not need all that crap if you are a novice bodybuilder. 500mg sustanon 250 weekly plus 25mg dianabol daily thats all you need to grow. if you are worried about getting bloated just add 50mg of proviron daily .
haha ok "the trainer". ::);D
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Glad you bumped this DK. I was thinking about this when I got up today... When will we see Phase 4????
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GH15,
Would you recommend exactly what you've laid out to someone who is a virgin to hormones??
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Bump
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Glad you bumped this DK. I was thinking about this when I got up today... When will we see Phase 4????
approved drug addict right there..thinking of the "gh15 phase 4" first thought of the day when jumping out of bed :D
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this is the meat and potatos phase,, now i will go on starting writing everything you need to listen and follow,,
this is meant for bodybuilders! ,, this is not meant for 15 year old that just enter gymnasium 1 month ago,,
this is a phase 3 of bodybuilder for the poor,, i will bring bring you to the mountain ,, i will help you get to troy alvez type of physiqe! but! from then on you are on your own ,, you will need much more money or sponsor to get to what you see today at the top,, so i will bring you up to 220 6% but from then you are on your own friends,,
phase 1 and 2 are must follow ,, and follow directly as i wrote it there,,yes you can chnage fish type but over all follow directly as i wrote it
ingredients needed,,you will have to put some money investment but since you save on supplmenet you wil have this money,,
again this is a program to follow for the fella with the worst bodybuild genetic out there aka vince goodrum and bring him up to ron heris level,, so if you are better and most likley you are...you will end up looking at the level zoen of troy alvez minus the years of experience and muscle maturity
ingredients
testosterona propioneta 100mg/ml 2 vials
testosterona enantato 250mg/ml or 300mg/ml or 350mg/ml depending on your contact ofcourse and wether human grade or private chef 2 vials
trenbolona ace ,, this is HIGHLY IMPORTANT 100mg per cc only ace! 2 vials
masterona 100mg per cc 2 vials
equipona 300mg per cc 2 vials
human growth hormone 1 kit 100iu only! nordic ! AGAIN ONLY NORDIC GH!
thats it ,, all you need you will need to buy it every single month so this will be an expense of about 500-600 dollaros first time around and then from third month! you will only need to put 300 dollaors a month ,, which is equal to your supplment sepdning,, this is the cheapest it can be to get to advance level bodybuild 300 dollaros every 4-8 weeks is the cheapest possible way to get there i cant get it any cheaper for you im sorry ,, most bodybuild spend 1000s in a matter of a 3 month period thousands of dollars! sometimes surpassing 10 k in a matter of 90 days
so this is not your case...you will need 500-600 for first 2 months and from then on 300 dolaros every month
alright,,
injection should be done every time before bed,,
i also want all injects to be done into the ass right and left cheeks ,, again this is your responsbility to be bodybuilder i write my own opinions and i discuss matters for enterntainment only...
i want you to start within PRIMING YOUR BODY with hgh ,, that mean you will work hgh into your body for 30-60days as a prime 4 iu a day ,, only 4 iu you hear that right just make sure you get nordic hgh and no other gh! you want that gh because it is the purest one and you want to get the most out of your gh,, yes you can find other decent and good gh but nordic gh never seem to dissapoint for years upon years going already close to 10 years
now,, i want 4 iu into DELTS 2 iu morning when wake up 2 iu night,, yes only this way and just train ,, do it for 25 days along with equipona at 900mg 3 times a week monday wed friday 300 mg each time that is it! no testosterona yet,, at the end of this 25 days i want you to add trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day! make sure it is LEGIT TRENBOLONA at 100mg every second day and continue with the second kit of gh for another 25 days at 4-5 iu a day 2.5 and 2.5 morning when wake up and night before sleep
now,, at the same time you add trenbolona ace i want you to add propioneta at 50mg! every 2nd to 3rd day depending on your own feeling since i cant see you you will decide but not every day! every second to third day,, 50 mg!
when 50 day mark arrive i want you to take the enantato ,,and do a 3 time weekly injectiong of 300mg each time mon wed and friday,, can also be tuesday thursday and saturday all up to your choice and how you do things and if you are lazy some fellas like to take their sweet time thats how bodybuild do at times,, this will give you 900-1000mg of testosterona enantato a week when you are done 50-60 days of hgh prime ,, with the enantato i want you to INCREASE the trenbolona to 100 mg every day 5 times a week ,, it is NOT easy ! trenbolona ace is very very tricky it works on your brain it change your personality even if you think it doesnt it does ,, it is the strongest personality change hormone out there but it is also a must to achieve any of today condition ,,you need to be careful with it if you can not tolerate every day 100mg you will have to continue every second day 100 mg ,, but if you can then 100mg a day will be better for this phase
so ,, enantato 900-1000 mg a week ...trenbolna ace 100 mg a day or if really cant 100 mg every 2 days,, and! NO ANTI ESTROGENS! i want you to introduce masterona if you have problem with high estrogen after 50 days! you should not have any problem but if you do introduce masterona at 50mg every 2 days! the masterona i stil dont want in only if you suffer from high levels of estrrogen which you shoudl not not even when you get on 1000 mg testosterona yuo still should be ok with estrogen ,,
now the masterona itself i want you to introduce after 3 weeks on enantato at 1000 mg ,,
so what we have until now,,
we have day 51 start,, you go on enantato 900-1000 mg a week,, you still keep equipona at 900 mg ,, you have trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day and after another 3 weeks you add in masterona at 50mg every second day ,, you can! combine injections,, it is all oil shoudl be no problem but it is still usualy 3 injects a week atleast no matter how you do it ,, you want it at 3 day injection a week so its ok ,,
now you will notice that by day 80-90 from your start you pretty much suddenly look like one of the best bodybuilder to ever touch foot in your gymnasium ,, this is in 3 months! you still wont be quality of top bodybuilder due to maturity and experience and time ,, and also due to lack of products notice you are poor! there are some things you can not do like bodybuilder with more money,, but you can defenitely have better quality physiqe than them
so....
day 80-90 you REINTRODUCE HGH to the blood,, do it on day 90 ,, this time you LEAVE testosterona enantato in may even increase it to 1200mg a week dependign on personal choice,, you leave equipona in still 900mg and you take trenbolona ace out! insted of trenbolona ace you bring in anadrola preferebly solution and do 100-150mg every day ,, again preferably injectable! you can still do orals too,, rememer you take out the trenbolona ace! you do gh again for 30 days this time you do it at 6-8 iu a day only for 30 days! if you can afford 60 it will be better for you but 30 will be ok too ,,you can even inject it every second day! at 6-8 iu a day then a day of no hgh then 8 iu a day then day of no hgh etc etc
you will then approach 120 days which is 4 months since you started and i will want you to start reducing the testosterona doses again ,, i will make phase 4 in next few days to discuss the next steps,,
again the nex phase will involve the possibility of diuretic application and a quick discussion about insulina and why im against it ,, it will also involve what needed to get to the 220 + at cometition condition because all those fellas are addicted to insulina and gh ,, you just dont step on stage 5'7 220 shredded if you are not hgh and insulina addict,, so we will talk abotu it too but again you are poor so i bring you up to 220 6% from then you will either have to find a good job or will have to have help or do something to get the ability to proceed,, most good bodybuilder at 200lb wipe floor with heavier bodybuilders...especialy if in light heavy classes ,, so its not that bad to get up to 200 210 220 6% my friends,, and this is the way you do it ,,
few things,,
you never give up! no matter what you see in the mirror after 11 days ,, you dont just say oh im tired of this,, you will see a lot in the mirror after lefit gh been in your blood for 11 days but! 11 days is not enough time to create body compsition change it takes some more time,, this is 120 days here that you should start ,, then will go to phase 4 which will polish the physiqe and bring it to competition level ,, not stage ready but pretty much 2 weeks out ,, i dont think yuo need it for every day life....but in general if you can get to look 200+ 6% on every day life at 5'10 or under no one will mistaken you for anything other than bodybuilder and you will be the best in your city in most cases,,
good luck to all ,,
phase 4 will come in few days
sealed bible index,,
gh15 approved
trying to sort out this confusing disorganized mess (that i'm nevertheless grateful for):
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week 01 | hgh 28iu | equipona 900mg
week 02 | hgh 28iu | equipona 900mg
week 03 | hgh 28iu | equipona 900mg
week 04 | hgh 28iu | equipona 900mg
week 05 | hgh 28-35iu | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 350mg | test propioneta 150mg
week 06 | hgh 28-35iu | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 350mg | test propioneta 150mg
week 07 | hgh 28-35iu | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 350mg | test propioneta 150mg
week 08 | hgh 28-35iu | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 350mg | test propioneta 150mg
week 09 | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 500mg | testosterona enantato 900-1000mg | masterona 0-175mg
week 10 | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 500mg | testosterona enantato 900-1000mg | masterona 0-175mg
week 11 | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 500mg | testosterona enantato 900-1000mg | masterona 0-175mg
week 12 | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 500mg | testosterona enantato 900-1000mg | masterona 175mg
week 13 | hgh 42-56iu | equipona 900mg | anadrola 700-1050mg | testosterona enantato 900-1200mg | masterona 175mg
week 14 | hgh 42-56iu | equipona 900mg | anadrola 700-1050mg | testosterona enantato 900-1200mg | masterona 175mg
week 15 | hgh 42-56iu | equipona 900mg | anadrola 700-1050mg | testosterona enantato 900-1200mg | masterona 175mg
week 16 | hgh 42-56iu | equipona 900mg | anadrola 700-1050mg | testosterona enantato 900-1200mg | masterona 175mg
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he never says take the equipona out. So 900mg/week x 16 weeks = 14.4g. Yet two vials will only give you 6g? ???
2g of test propioneta is at our disposal, but i only see 600mg being consumed? do you run it for two consecutive months overlapping a month with enanthate? that would roughly account for the difference.
2.8-3.4g tren ace is suggested, but only 2g is included.
2.8-4.2g anadrol is suggested, but not on the ingredients list.
392-476iu hgh is suggested, but 100iu is included... (seriously, am i missing something here???)
7.2-8.8g of test e is suggested, but 5-7g is included... ::)
in a nutshell: nothing adds up. :-\
his pricing is very unclear and unrealistic i feel unless you have the connections of a pro-bodybuilder (in which case you wouldn't need this).
i'd appreciate it if gh15 would make a chart that actually added up and gave some kind of a realistic internet pricing estimate.
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y switch to enth from prop is a good question
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y switch to enth from prop is a good question
i think he suggests that so you'll hold less water and so you can see yourself getting defined before blowing up on high dose test e + gh.
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test e causes more water retention
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trying to sort out this confusing disorganized mess (that i'm nevertheless grateful for):
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week 01 | hgh 28iu | equipona 900mg
week 02 | hgh 28iu | equipona 900mg
week 03 | hgh 28iu | equipona 900mg
week 04 | hgh 28iu | equipona 900mg
week 05 | hgh 28-35iu | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 350mg | test propioneta 150mg
week 06 | hgh 28-35iu | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 350mg | test propioneta 150mg
week 07 | hgh 28-35iu | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 350mg | test propioneta 150mg
week 08 | hgh 28-35iu | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 350mg | test propioneta 150mg
week 09 | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 500mg | testosterona enantato 900-1000mg | masterona 0-175mg
week 10 | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 500mg | testosterona enantato 900-1000mg | masterona 0-175mg
week 11 | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 500mg | testosterona enantato 900-1000mg | masterona 0-175mg
week 12 | equipona 900mg | trenbolona 500mg | testosterona enantato 900-1000mg | masterona 175mg
week 13 | hgh 42-56iu | equipona 900mg | anadrola 700-1050mg | testosterona enantato 900-1200mg | masterona 175mg
week 14 | hgh 42-56iu | equipona 900mg | anadrola 700-1050mg | testosterona enantato 900-1200mg | masterona 175mg
week 15 | hgh 42-56iu | equipona 900mg | anadrola 700-1050mg | testosterona enantato 900-1200mg | masterona 175mg
week 16 | hgh 42-56iu | equipona 900mg | anadrola 700-1050mg | testosterona enantato 900-1200mg | masterona 175mg
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he never says take the equipona out. So 900mg/week x 16 weeks = 14.4g. Yet two vials will only give you 6g? ???
2g of test propioneta is at our disposal, but i only see 600mg being consumed? do you run it for two consecutive months overlapping a month with enanthate? that would roughly account for the difference.
2.8-3.4g tren ace is suggested, but only 2g is included.
2.8-4.2g anadrol is suggested, but not on the ingredients list.
392-476iu hgh is suggested, but 100iu is included... (seriously, am i missing something here???)
7.2-8.8g of test e is suggested, but 5-7g is included... ::)
in a nutshell: nothing adds up. :-\
his pricing is very unclear and unrealistic i feel unless you have the connections of a pro-bodybuilder (in which case you wouldn't need this).
i'd appreciate it if gh15 would make a chart that actually added up and gave some kind of a realistic internet pricing estimate.
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how you go into so much detail about everything and miss the part where he says you need to buy these supplies every month is beyond me
He may be a little loose with the doses but its not far off.
Obviously the gh is bumped towards the end which is going to be more expensive.. His start out numbers are fairly accurate. Whether you can get it at that price all depends on your location and hook ups.. No way I can get it for that cheap. But what I do know is that THAT is the protocol to mutate, so find the resouces and cash do it, if you want to take your physiqe to the next level.. or continue to be stuck among the gym rats running their pre dbols and test
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how you go into so much detail about everything and miss the part where he says you need to buy these supplies every month is beyond me
the way he writes it is very easily misunderstood (at least for me). he seems to say $500/600 for months one and two (might buy you the kit of gh and that's it) then $300 for consecutive months. nevertheless what we have here is a 16 week cycle and it doesn't make sense for the ingredients list to be incomprehensive.
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You didn't get the GH doses right
yeah i did.
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They're right.. he posted weekly and gh was posting daily for gh
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the guide is understandable
use something called your brain if you have one :-\
unbelievable some of you people...
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where's the diet and workout plan to go with this?
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where's the diet and workout plan to go with this?
If you dont know how to eat and train you shouldnt be touching drugs. :-\
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where's the diet and workout plan to go with this?
Hi Kai. ::) ::) do you need a babysitter?
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If you dont know how to eat and train you shouldnt be touching drugs. :-\
x1000
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if you are on that much Tren you will end up having problems with Prolactin levels no?
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if you are on that much Tren you will end up having problems with Prolactin levels no?
cabergoline for prolactin
masteron, arim, nolva for estrogen.
problem is no one knows to deal with prolactin. they think their arimidex is bunk because they still developed gyno when actually the gyno has been developed from prolcatin/progesterone.
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Long live the Elfs and God of Hormona GH15, can I get a WOOO amen for this thread
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Hey guys you think the long awaited phase 4 will be written ? ???
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Hey guys you think the long awaited phase 4 will be written ? ???
it will
gh15 approved
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Hey guys you think the long awaited phase 4 will be written ? ???
lol patience ! gh15 always delivers
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also gh15 recommends to do all injections (other than GH) in glutes?
why not rotate injection sites?
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also gh15 recommends to do all injections (other than GH) in glutes?
why not rotate injection sites?
Ass for AAS. I was really scared with this advice at first but he does make a good point. The glutes hold oil very well, it's obviously a very large area and for some reason it truly does fight abscesses well. Not a lot of nerve endings or veins either.
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it will
gh15 approved
Thanks god :)
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thanks... but if using painful gear like prop or some high MG blends you going to inject in the same area the next day while its still sore/red/swollen? I always thought you should wait at least 6 days before injecting in the same area again.
are you using a different region of the glute each time?
Ass for AAS. I was really scared with this advice at first but he does make a good point. The glutes hold oil very well, it's obviously a very large area and for some reason it truly does fight abscesses well. Not a lot of nerve endings or veins either.
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thanks... but if using painful gear like prop or some high MG blends you going to inject in the same area the next day while its still sore/red/swollen? I always thought you should wait at least 6 days before injecting in the same area again.
are you using a different region of the glute each time?
You do have two asscheeks, brother. Shit, I've pinned delts for 3 months straight EOD with no issues. Not the smartest, but delts are cake to hit and slin pins allow to pin just about anywhere on them with zero pain.
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thanks... but if using painful gear like prop or some high MG blends you going to inject in the same area the next day while its still sore/red/swollen? I always thought you should wait at least 6 days before injecting in the same area again.
you should. you can vary it like this: left hip (this is actually the standard IM site), right hip, left butt, right butt, right delt, left delt, and even outside portion of quad. there's a six inch window there half way between your hip and your knee.
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thanks... but if using painful gear like prop or some high MG blends you going to inject in the same area the next day while its still sore/red/swollen? I always thought you should wait at least 6 days before injecting in the same area again.
are you using a different region of the glute each time?
i feel sorry for anyone still using "painful prop".
that is one outdated hormone chef.
painful prop ::) ...is it still 2005 here ???
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How are you doing with Phase #4?
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How are you doing with Phase #4?
Good, you?
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i feel sorry for anyone still using "painful prop".
that is one outdated hormone chef.
painful prop ::) ...is it still 2005 here ???
x10000
if you have painful prop, get your ass to a new chef
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A lot of dudes with very low post counts in this thread....I guess they are future pupils???
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Nevermind GH15 is not Farrah. Only a black guy would take this long for phase 4. >:(
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Nevermind GH15 is not Farrah. Only a black guy would take this long for phase 4. >:(
HA!...gh15 is busy answering pm's for more drug orders :D
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yeah im a poor bodybuilding and wait the phase 4 for my contest ;)
thanks for all gh15
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Bump for phase #4 please...
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i'd like to hear at what dose of gh insulin becomes a must. bc i know the more in your blood the more insulin resistant your body becomes.
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i'd like to hear at what dose of gh insulin becomes a must. bc i know the more in your blood the more insulin resistant your body becomes.
METFORMIN
R-ALPHA LIPOIC ACID
CHROMIUM PICOLINATE
VANADYL SULFATE
Instead of fighting GH induced insulin resistance by using insulin (which will cause more insulin resistance), you should take precautions to INCREASE insulin sensitivity by means of drugs and supplements.
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METFORMIN
R-ALPHA LIPOIC ACID
CHROMIUM PICOLINATE
VANADYL SULFATE
Instead of fighting GH induced insulin resistance by using insulin (which will cause more insulin resistance), you should take precautions to INCREASE insulin sensitivity by means of drugs and supplements.
Interesting. Although I would not count on Chromium to protect the human body against powerful pharmaceuticals. I do think uses low, key word low, doses of insulin are healthier than taking large amounts of gh without insulin. Key word large doses of gh, I think from a health perspective low doses of gh without slin are most beneficial. By using gh without exogenous insulin your stressing your pancreas into a diabetic like state. I had dificulty gaining weight when I was on high doses of growth, I looked fantastic but was flat as shit. Moment I added slin my weight took off. I also gained more muscle in those 3 months after stopping the gh than I did in the past year on steroids. Definitely think there is a window for growth that no one and gh15 have talked about after stopping gh.
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Interesting. Although I would not count on Chromium to protect the human body against powerful pharmaceuticals. I do think uses low, key word low, doses of insulin are healthier than taking large amounts of gh without insulin. Key word large doses of gh, I think from a health perspective low doses of gh without slin are most beneficial. By using gh without exogenous insulin your stressing your pancreas into a diabetic like state. I had dificulty gaining weight when I was on high doses of growth, I looked fantastic but was flat as shit. Moment I added slin my weight took off. I also gained more muscle in those 3 months after stopping the gh than I did in the past year on steroids. Definitely think there is a window for growth that no one and gh15 have talked about after stopping gh.
That might happen when you don't eat enough...
How much gh did you use?
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METFORMIN
R-ALPHA LIPOIC ACID
CHROMIUM PICOLINATE
VANADYL SULFATE
Instead of fighting GH induced insulin resistance by using insulin (which will cause more insulin resistance), you should take precautions to INCREASE insulin sensitivity by means of drugs and supplements.
Other than Metformin which is a drug the rest are rubbish HTH
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METFORMIN
R-ALPHA LIPOIC ACID
CHROMIUM PICOLINATE
VANADYL SULFATE
Instead of fighting GH induced insulin resistance by using insulin (which will cause more insulin resistance), you should take precautions to INCREASE insulin sensitivity by means of drugs and supplements.
never heard of any of this. will check into it.
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Other than Metformin which is a drug the rest are rubbish HTH
I agree that if funds are limited, then metformin is the way to go. Metformin blows the legal supplements I listed out of the water. However, the legal supplements I listed DO, in fact, increase insulin sensitivity. For example, alpha lipoic acid: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15913551
I think these legal supplements can have their place, since they increase insulin sensitivity in skeletal muscle, while metformin increases insulin sensitivity in muscle AND fat cells.
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Other than Metformin which is a drug the rest are rubbish HTH
Yeah, Metformin is the only glucose disposal agent I'd use. But still, I'd only use it if it were free. Otherwise it's not worth the money.
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Other than Metformin which is a drug the rest are rubbish HTH
agreed
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I agree that if funds are limited, then metformin is the way to go. Metformin blows the legal supplements I listed out of the water. However, the legal supplements I listed DO, in fact, increase insulin sensitivity. For example, alpha lipoic acid: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15913551
I think these legal supplements can have their place, since they increase insulin sensitivity in skeletal muscle, while metformin increases insulin sensitivity in muscle AND fat cells.
It doesn't specify how much ALA? I know that Chromium in high doeses, 500mcg+ can be harmful. Seems you have to watch all your micro minerals as they get toxic real quick.
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Interesting. Although I would not count on Chromium to protect the human body against powerful pharmaceuticals. I do think uses low, key word low, doses of insulin are healthier than taking large amounts of gh without insulin. Key word large doses of gh, I think from a health perspective low doses of gh without slin are most beneficial. By using gh without exogenous insulin your stressing your pancreas into a diabetic like state. I had dificulty gaining weight when I was on high doses of growth, I looked fantastic but was flat as shit. Moment I added slin my weight took off. I also gained more muscle in those 3 months after stopping the gh than I did in the past year on steroids. Definitely think there is a window for growth that no one and gh15 have talked about after stopping gh.
I believe you were using 10ius of the NDs right? When you say you couldn't gain weight were you getting more shredded? Also, what insulin protocol were you using.
Maybe you were eating enough Brewers Reeses ice cream.
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Gh15(Nasser) is poor ;D he owes people thousands and never payed them back ;D
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Interesting. Although I would not count on Chromium to protect the human body against powerful pharmaceuticals. I do think uses low, key word low, doses of insulin are healthier than taking large amounts of gh without insulin. Key word large doses of gh, I think from a health perspective low doses of gh without slin are most beneficial. By using gh without exogenous insulin your stressing your pancreas into a diabetic like state. I had dificulty gaining weight when I was on high doses of growth, I looked fantastic but was flat as shit. Moment I added slin my weight took off. I also gained more muscle in those 3 months after stopping the gh than I did in the past year on steroids. Definitely think there is a window for growth that no one and gh15 have talked about after stopping gh.
how high and how low doses of GH are you taliking about?
would 4~5iu a day long term be ok without insulin?
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It doesn't specify how much ALA? I know that Chromium in high doeses, 500mcg+ can be harmful. Seems you have to watch all your micro minerals as they get toxic real quick.
IDK how much to do with GH as I've never done GH. My guess is that R-ALA wouldn't be strong enough on its own to deal with GH induced hyperglycemia. But for regular usage, 100mg r-ALA per 50g of carbs up to four times daily. Of course, I only take it with quickly digesting carbs.
Note: take biotin with it, as r-ALA may cause biotin deficiency.
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Phase 4 pleassssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssss
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apparently the fructose present in fruits increases insulin sensitivity. (from the frutarian posting)
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apparently the fructose present in fruits increases insulin sensitivity. (from the frutarian posting)
Well, I can see how that would make sense. Though fructose is a sugar it has a low glycemic index. I remember reading that it's sugar molecule is a lot bigger and takes longer to break down giving a more sustain energy release.
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I don 't agree. Fructose is the stealth bomb of carbs. It goes first to replenish liver glycogen, through a specific enzyme. This one unfortunately runs out fast, and when it's over, the rest of fructose will be converted in tryglycerides. Only prolly 20/25 grams of fructose a day can be used safely.... My 2 cents
Metformin is the best glucose disposal agent out there. I used since 1996 to carb up or to go in ketosis faster with the old bodyopus diet. I used bidiabe another gucose disposal agent but not with the same results. One thing that happens when starting glucophage while dieting is a drop of weight quite immediatly...
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Ok. Bringing this up!
Don't know if it has been answered yet but here goes:
Why do we have to change from Test Prop to Enan? Can't we just up the Prop dosage? Or does Enanthate have some properties that we can't get from the Prop?
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Ok. Bringing this up!
Don't know if it has been answered yet but here goes:
Why do we have to change from Test Prop to Enan? Can't we just up the Prop dosage? Or does Enanthate have some properties that we can't get from the Prop?
scientifically speaking, test is test. the only variance is the half life the ester provides.
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Ok. Bringing this up!
Don't know if it has been answered yet but here goes:
Why do we have to change from Test Prop to Enan? Can't we just up the Prop dosage? Or does Enanthate have some properties that we can't get from the Prop?
Most guys will tell you test is test, but there actually has been some literature showing otherwise. I dont feel like looking for it atm...but in a nutshell I remember two interesting things off the top of my head...
-long esters are superior for bulking
- short esters will provide a higher peak concentration of the hormone...so not only do they work faster but they will actually result in a higher level of hormone in the blood. intersting stuff.
if anyone gives a fuck I'll look for it and post it in the morning, I'm tired.
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scientifically speaking, test is test. the only variance is the half life the ester provides.
on paper.
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Most guys will tell you test is test, but there actually has been some literature showing otherwise. I dont feel like looking for it atm...but in a nutshell I remember two interesting things off the top of my head...
-long esters are superior for bulking
- short esters will provide a higher peak concentration of the hormone...so not only do they work faster but they will actually result in a higher level of hormone in the blood. intersting stuff.
if anyone gives a fuck I'll look for it and post it in the morning, I'm tired.
About the higher level of hormones i've read it because the enanthate ester is heavier thus making 250mg a little less than the prop esther wich is lighter and allows for a closer 250mg of test.
I'm just asking because i get really bloated with Enanthate but it gets more expensive with the prop so i'll have to figure it out!
Tkx for the replies
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About the higher level of hormones i've read it because the enanthate ester is heavier thus making 250mg a little less than the prop esther wich is lighter and allows for a closer 250mg of test.
I'm just asking because i get really bloated with Enanthate but it gets more expensive with the prop so i'll have to figure it out!
Tkx for the replies
there is 180mg of actual testosterone per 250mg of test enanthate.
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there is 180mg of actual testosterone per 250mg of test enanthate.
Thank you. Will probably use Prop@900mg instead of Enan@1g
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I'm bumping this because i think we all are still waiting for fase 4 G15!!
I know you are busy bringing down WW... :D... but maye you have some spare time at hand soon to complete the fase 4 that you promissed us all?
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I'm bumping this because i think we all are still waiting for fase 4 G15!!
I know you are busy bringing down WW... :D... but maye you have some spare time at hand soon to complete the fase 4 that you promissed us all?
real busy right now,,,,I have elections coming up,,victor martinez among other things I will help more in march with website,,,
gh15 approved
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real busy right now,,,,I have elections coming up,,victor martinez among other things I will help more in march with website,,,
gh15 approved
Somehow i was expecting a reply like this... :-\ ;D
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I'm bumping this because i think we all are still waiting for fase 4 G15!!
I know you are busy bringing down WW... :D... but maye you have some spare time at hand soon to complete the fase 4 that you promissed us all?
they sign up here having maybe just read only the last documented page of the bible and think they are qualified to start begging for phase 4 ::)
god has already spoken!...phase 4 will be on the gh15 website. be gone now you peasant.