You brought up Mentzer, not me. The amphetamines ruined him, and probably had much to do with his premature death. He was showing signs of psychosis when he competed in '80. He over analyzed everything and wasted many years of his life preaching there was only one way to train and everyone else (not matter how many Mr. O titles they won) was wrong.
I agree. I know all about Mikey and his brother and Dan Duchaine.
There were others also.
I was just saying that I didnt bring him up in the context in which you were referring. I was simply speaking of Arnolds high volume training and Mikeys dogma about one set to failure. In the video Arnie talks about more and more and more to make up for lack of knowledge in nutrition.
I'm not siding with either.
Anything works for a time.
Haney: Stimulate don't annihilate.... ya know? That's all.