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Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« on: November 30, 2012, 06:53:10 PM »
Is it possible (naturally)?

My joints are going to shit and I can't go heavy. I can barely tolerate light weights but it's the cards I have to play with right now.

Been to doctor, did all kinds of tests..blood tests, etc. It's not anything but plain old tendonitis.

I figure I'll go light, up the volume, the sets, and keep going to failure.

Can one build strength/mass this way, or is it a lost cause?

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2012, 06:53:59 PM »
higher reps are worse for tendinitis one would think

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2012, 06:56:41 PM »
got my best size and strength gains from 12-15 reps, go figure..

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2012, 06:59:30 PM »
If your over 12-15% bodyfat, then the best thing you can do for yourself is to get to 8-10%. If it means just training light, than so be it. You will feel so much better leaner. However the journey to get there may be hell.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 07:01:11 PM »
Is it possible (naturally)?

My joints are going to shit and I can't go heavy. I can barely tolerate light weights but it's the cards I have to play with right now.

Been to doctor, did all kinds of tests..blood tests, etc. It's not anything but plain old tendonitis.

I figure I'll go light, up the volume, the sets, and keep going to failure.

Can one build strength/mass this way, or is it a lost cause?

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.



1-3 Power
5-8 Strength
8-12 hypertrophy
12+ muscular endurance

This varies but usually by a rep or so.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 07:07:03 PM »
It's common knowledge you grow outside of the gym building up your post count on getbig
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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 07:34:12 PM »
1-3 Power
5-8 Strength
8-12 hypertrophy
12+ muscular endurance

This varies but usually by a rep or so.

Bullshit. All of it.

Besides. It is the total volume that mostly dictates how the body is going to adapt.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 07:42:51 PM »
Is it possible (naturally)?

My joints are going to shit and I can't go heavy. I can barely tolerate light weights but it's the cards I have to play with right now.

Been to doctor, did all kinds of tests..blood tests, etc. It's not anything but plain old tendonitis.

I figure I'll go light, up the volume, the sets, and keep going to failure.

Can one build strength/mass this way, or is it a lost cause?

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.


You know it's funny that you mention this cause despite what all the BS bad rap juice gets my joints are practically indestructible while on the juice. While I am off it is almost unbearable, sore joints all over the place and I can barely workout for this reason alone I will be on juice till I die. I have tried (while off juice) everything and have never found anything that works.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 07:43:18 PM »
What kind of tendonitis specifically?  I had terrible tendonitis in my elbow and forearms(tennis and golfers elbow)  Simply changing the types of lifts have done wonder for me without sacrificing weight.  I also increase my warmup sets and reps as needed.

Had tendonitis for about 14 months straight and have been relatively healthy for the last year.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 07:51:48 PM »
1-3 Power
5-8 Strength
8-12 hypertrophy
12+ muscular endurance

This varies but usually by a rep or so.

Ok, I'll bite. How is it Bullshit?

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 07:53:21 PM »
Ok, I'll bite. How is it Bullshit?

everybody knows this is how it actually works

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 08:05:53 PM »
higher reps are worse for tendinitis one would think

This ^^^

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2012, 08:11:18 PM »
You know it's funny that you mention this cause despite what all the BS bad rap juice gets my joints are practically indestructible while on the juice. While I am off it is almost unbearable, sore joints all over the place and I can barely workout for this reason alone I will be on juice till I die. I have tried (while off juice) everything and have never found anything that works.

My joints are all screwed up from arthritis and I was wondering about this subject and whether it would help.  This actually answered a question I've been meaning to ask.  Thank you.
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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 08:15:30 PM »
higher reps are worse for tendinitis one would think

Doesn't matter. Takes forever to get rid of. rest, ice anti- inflammatories.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2012, 08:16:17 PM »
My joints are all screwed up from arthritis and I was wondering about this subject and whether it would help.  This actually answered a question I've been meaning to ask.  Thank you.
Big time bro, trust me, I mean doesn't mean you inject today and tomorrow "wolla" but it will make the joints tendons and ligament a lot stronger and while using them a lot more without the pain it will bring them back to normal. After 1 month on juice all my joint pains are completely gone and can do any exercise comfortably, hell I can even arm wrestle.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2012, 08:18:21 PM »
I know a guy who for years would go heavy as hell for lower reps.. 4-10 reps usually. He had a few surgeries all over the place(shoulders, knee, etc.). He lightened up the weight big time and would do 15-20 on 99% of exercises and actually grew better from it and looks a lot better now with his physique. It could be the drugs though lol.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2012, 08:27:44 PM »
1-3 Power
5-8 Strength
8-12 hypertrophy
12+ muscular endurance

This varies but usually by a rep or so.

very accurate intel here dude, you know as well as i do opinions vary but this really makes the most sense.
how you train is what you get in the end.


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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2012, 08:50:40 PM »
Rearch on Higher reps is showing that they are actually optimal for pure hypertrophy.

Ronnie coleman says you aint building shit unless you doin atleast 10 to 15 reps.
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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2012, 09:00:16 PM »
Rearch on Higher reps is showing that they are actually optimal for pure hypertrophy.

Ronnie coleman says you aint building shit unless you doin atleast 10 to 15 reps.

I wanted a natural solution. Is Ronnie natural? I dunno...call me crazy..but if was putting 12K of drugs in my system a month, I prolly wouldn't have any joint problems. Just throwin' that out.
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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2012, 09:09:50 PM »
I wanted a natural solution. Is Ronnie natural? I dunno...call me crazy..but if was putting 12K of drugs in my system a month, I prolly wouldn't have any joint problems. Just throwin' that out.

Of course hes not natural but most people build size with higher reps natural or juicing.

The lighter loads are MUCH easier on the joints.

And you dont even need to take sets to failure because your total volume and TUT is so high when dling  3 to 4 sets of 12 to 20+ reps. Try it out for a few weeks.
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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2012, 09:13:53 PM »
Of course hes not natural but most people build size with higher reps natural or juicing.

The lighter loads are MUCH easier on the joints.

And you dont even need to take sets to failure because your total volume and TUT is so high when dling  3 to 4 sets of 12 to 20+ reps. Try it out for a few weeks.

Good call. I'll give it a shot.
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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2012, 09:39:12 PM »
Is it possible (naturally)?

My joints are going to shit and I can't go heavy. I can barely tolerate light weights but it's the cards I have to play with right now.

Been to doctor, did all kinds of tests..blood tests, etc. It's not anything but plain old tendonitis.

I figure I'll go light, up the volume, the sets, and keep going to failure.

Can one build strength/mass this way, or is it a lost cause?

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

 Try supplementing with curcumin ( turmeric extract ) research it. The reviews on this stuff are crazy, I. A skeptic but the research and evidence on this cant be denied.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2012, 09:43:45 PM »
I wanted a natural solution. Is Ronnie natural? I dunno...call me crazy..but if was putting 12K of drugs in my system a month, I prolly wouldn't have any joint problems. Just throwin' that out.

ask matty hawerw[eoo for tips on how to afford drugs.  seems to be doing pretty well for a 24 year old - making $5k bets and all.

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2012, 10:02:59 PM »
natural = no gains no matter what

juice = gains no matter what

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Re: Build size with the 12-15-20 rep range?
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2012, 10:06:26 PM »
Good call. I'll give it a shot.

Dont forget FISH OIL.

Supposed to be great for lubing the joints. Actually I need to get some because my elbow is creaking a when I bench.
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