So tiring to have to listen to this self righteous nonsense. You cannot refute all of the counter arguments.
You obviously don't know a lot of imbeciles. Making drugs legal is as good a thing as going on TV and telling the world that drugs are safe. People really are that stupid.
1.I can refute ALL of the counter arguments. Yes I can.
2.Yes Drugs can ruin people's lives. The whole idea of decriminalization is "Harm reduction" the same princible behind giving condoms out for free or providing needles to drug users for free. More harm is caused by drugs being outlawed than by them being regulated and produced legally and sold.
Different culture, I personally wouldn't endorse marijuana in the US or australia (where I am). That is, if I were attempting to curb use..
"Different culture" is itself a copout. In reality most European countries have the same "Culture" as America does given the Internet and T.V....Europeans are extremly americanized.
Secondly curbing marijuana use shouldn't even be a govt priority considering it's much less problematic than Alcohol is.
Incorrect. I said there were victims on both sides. Remember, I am not debating any side, just pointing out that I recognise why there is a hesitancy to change things from how they are. That has nothing to do with "the war on drugs" - a subject I know little about except to say that it seems to be a somewhat losing battle.
Hence the princible of "Harm reduction". Anyone who knows anything about the war on Drugs knows that it doens't accomplish what it was set out to do...Prevent people from using drugs. The fact is..People WILL do drugs regardless of their legality. Making them illegal meerly creates more problems as i've mentioned before. "Harm reduction" is the princible of acceptance, That people WILL do these drugs and that trying to stop them is futile. Trying to educate them on the best choices and giving them the tools needed to safely do these things is the best approach.
Like Giving out Condoms. People claim Giving out condoms makes people want to have sex..BULLSHIT! I've never wanted sex from seeing a condom.
People who want sex will have sex REGARDLESS of having a condom or not. However providing condoms for free to people will lower birth rates and lower rates of STD's.
Preaching "Don't have sex" doesn't do shit...And hundreds of studies agree with me.
I don't know, is not being able to sleep a physical withdrawal. Ever seen a man pace in a room backwards and forwards for hours because he doesn't have any weed? Every stood infront of someone who is babbling incoherent nonsense because he smoked weed an hour ago - so much so that he cannot respond to direct questions.. just keeps asking you whether "you want to die for this"? Who really cares about defining addiction. Suffice to say some people perceive they need to smoke weed continuously. End of discussion. Proving addiction means nothing..
1.Insomnia isn't a physical withdrawl symptom just a mental one.
2.No.
3.No. I know numeorus people who have smoked marijuana and are 100% coherent. The only time I see people acting incoherent is after a few drinks of alcohol.
4.If Marijuana is addictive then by the same definition so is the Internet,So are video games,So is exercise,So is eating healthy...Should we ban them all too? Let's go ahead and ban everything people enjoy because they tend to do it more often because they ENJOY doing it..That'll work!
That is purposely naive, if anything in alcohols case it should be illegal rather than a catalyst for legalisation of other substances (via the faulty logic that if it is legal other drugs should be). I'm sure you know that just as well as I do. Somehow I think it shits on your case though doesn't it
This goes back to civil liberties. Alcohol is legal because people have the right to put whatever substance into their bodies. Marijuana is illegal because people don't have such a right. See the hypocrisy?
Here is something pretty funny....Here are what specific substances need to be to be considered a "Schedule 1 substance"(Like Marijuana is)
(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
Oh wow...Alcohol fits ALL of those definitions now doesn't it? Marijuana doesn't fit any of them but maybe (A) and even that is a stretch.
Here is something funnier....There's another...(D)
(D) The drug is not alcohol (ethanol) due to the failure of prohibition.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2001_register&docid=01-9306-filed 
WoW! They make it so Alcohol can't even be scheduled due to failure of prohibition EVEN IF it fits all of those definitions needed to schedule a substance.
So this is proof it has NOTHING to do with saftey but everything to do with politics.
People have been thrown into Prison for LIFE simply for selling marijuana.
Actually I wasn't, I was pointing out that when a drug is considered safe by virtue of legality society (or more to the point, the imbeciles) abuse this and thus we have a problem.
This makes no sense to me.
You say you can refute every side of the argument but you appear incredibly narrow minded. You only really care about your civil liberties and your right to consume. I'm not saying that either side has a irrefutable case. What I was saying is that there are clear examples on both sides of where injustices will occur(ie, the fact that your actions are restricted to protect perhaps less responsible people).
In American law you can't punish someone for a crime they "Might" do. That would be in violation of the constitution. Punishing someone for consuming a substance because they "Might" commit another crime by consuming it doesn't make any sense at all.
The argument that "We punish drug users because they might commit violent crimes in the future." is a dead one and inconsistent with the way our entire country works. IF you condone punishing people for using a substance that "might" cause them to "possibly" commit some type of unknown crime in the unknown future..What's stopping you from punishing children with anger issues? Throwing 8 year olds away for good because they have mental problems that can't be fixed and they "might" commit some crime in the future.
I'm far from narrow minded...I have heard all of the argument for and against drug criminilization and the fact is it makes no sense to criminalize the drugs.
You seem to lack the experience of ever knowing just how weak people really are and you've failed to convince me that legalising drugs is irrefutably necessary. If anything my main concern, the example of alcohol and its misuse in society you absolutely fail to explain, rather attempting like oh so many of the self serving drug law reformists to use its failures to indicate validity based upon the fact that it is a menace yet still legal.
Actually many of my family members are drug addicts or have been. I have seen first hand how ineffective the current statues regarding drugs are. People are thrown into jail...Nonviolent people thrown into jail simply for possessing a substance that makes them feel better. They spend years in Prison and then come out hardened criminals from being forced to socalize with them for so long.
In effect...The current "war on drugs" Creates many more times as much crime as it gets rid of. Actually..It hardly gets rid of ANY crime ignoring the crime it creates itself by making drug use a crime.
What a load of tripe.
Why not be a progressive individual and admit that on both sides there are significant issues.
Why be a hypocrite and claim you know everything?
I do admit there are issues on both sides. Drugs can cause problems. I'm not debating that. However I AM debating that the current "War on drugs" is 100% ineffective and pointless. That I know absolutely and I can argue against absolutely.
I never condoned legalizing all drugs. Different drugs would be treated differently. Marijuana would be treated differently than Cocaine. Steroids differently than LSD. Ect..ect. However when it comes down to it...People SHOULD have the personal choice to take the drugs they want and not have to go through the black market to get them which only causes more problems than there was to begin with.
