i was 24 in the top pictures and 25 in the bottom as i am now.thanks for the good words brothers and arms ill take a piss test a drug test or any kind of test anytime of any day. funy u should mention my calves i train at home and use no machines. so for my seated calve raises i stack the plates on my lap and do them up to 225 pound of plates. and for standing calve raises i put a heavy dumbell in my belt and do my calve raises on a deep step.