Nordic

[Hugo Chavez]

Thinking about the North American Union and the strange/unexpected support for it made me curious, are you opposed to the European Union?

[Nordic Superman]

Thinking about the North American Union and the strange/unexpected support for it made me curious, are you opposed to the European Union?

I'll assume the context of the discussion is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

Well I'm not sure, personally I think Canada, US, Mexico operate most efficiently as independent states.

Of course I don't have any details of how the economies, lifestyle, social aspects etc of the countries would change under a union other than what pro-union groups provide (which of course aren't facts and this info is bias).

Maybe it would be great, maybe they could get it right and make the union linked directly to economics and not to legislative issue which dogs the EU.

One thing to not is the small size of the theoretical NAU, 3 countries. The fact that there are a lot more countries in the EU makes things more difficult and complicated. Everyone in the EU wants to be heard, wants their say on laws, and rightfully so.

From a US standpoint the negative effects of the Union would be minimal, because lets face it, the US would carry more legislative weight due its more powerful economy etc.

I'm vehemently against the EU. It's a joke of an organisation. Economically the free market should be in place, but why should the EU laws cover all the individual nations? It's a mess. The "non" vote in France and the Netherlands just proves it. France being the ultra-pro-EU voted NO in the referendum.

Like I said, I don't know what the economic relationship is between the US and Mexico, I'd have to research it, and frankly I'm too busy to do so ATM. I know they're healthy and open between Canada/US, so judging from what I know, a Union should be ignored for now.

In the minds of the top dogs in the White House it probably all comes down to being competitive with China

[Hugo Chavez]

I'll assume the context of the discussion is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

Well I'm not sure, personally I think Canada, US, Mexico operate most efficiently as independent states.

Of course I don't have any details of how the economies, lifestyle, social aspects etc of the countries would change under a union other than what pro-union groups provide (which of course aren't facts and this info is bias).

Maybe it would be great, maybe they could get it right and make the union linked directly to economics and not to legislative issue which dogs the EU.

One thing to not is the small size of the theoretical NAU, 3 countries. The fact that there are a lot more countries in the EU makes things more difficult and complicated. Everyone in the EU wants to be heard, wants their say on laws, and rightfully so.

From a US standpoint the negative effects of the Union would be minimal, because lets face it, the US would carry more legislative weight due its more powerful economy etc.

I'm vehemently against the EU. It's a joke of an organisation. Economically the free market should be in place, but why should the EU laws cover all the individual nations? It's a mess. The "non" vote in France and the Netherlands just proves it. France being the ultra-pro-EU voted NO in the referendum.

Like I said, I don't know what the economic relationship is between the US and Mexico, I'd have to research it, and frankly I'm too busy to do so ATM. I know they're healthy and open between Canada/US, so judging from what I know, a Union should be ignored for now.

In the minds of the top dogs in the White House it probably all comes down to being competitive with China

I was just curious how you felt about the EU, not what you thought of the north American Union.  That only spurd me to ask the question.  Is it just the present form of EU that you're against or are you for some sort of union of the european countries or is British sovereignty more important to you?

[Nordic Superman]

I was just curious how you felt about the EU, not what you thought of the north American Union.  That only spurd me to ask the question.  Is it just the present form of EU that you're against or are you for some sort of union of the european countries or is British sovereignty more important to you?

It's more the decay forced on social aspects and ridiculous laws that get passed by the EU and then forced down on Britain.

Also immigration is a very BIG problem. In the EU due to the laws all the asylum seekers have to go somewhere, and Britain with its stupid welfare system is the lowest common denominator. Not only that, but with the bogus... and I really mean WHACKY human rights laws and political correctness we really have no other choice but to finance Somalians with AIDS, Pakistanis with TB etc to live in this country.

TB was eradicated from Britain, now we have special wards in hospitals in Manchester because of the influx in illegal immigrants. Of course they need not pay for their treatment, BECAUSE I DO!

Lets not forget the most important fact - the EU is based on socialism, something I cannot stand. Socialism is basically re-branded communism with a bit of political correctness sprinkled on top (thus IMO making it worse than communism).