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Title: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 29, 2007, 07:50:13 AM
first of all i'd like to apologize for any grammar mistakes...........

better get to the point........

I never was a fan of reguralry checking hort girls out in the gym i go to, I respect the fact that they have the right not to be bothered during the workout by somebody staring at them or hitting on them etc; I always paid attention to my workout,............ so about a year ago this girl joined our gym.I kinda' ignored her at first but there was something about her that.......i don't know, hard to explain.Well i managed to ignore her presence for a couple of months, and then one day after I'd finished my workout, as i was heading home , i stopped, looked in both directions and saw a car on my right, it was her, she'd finished her workout as well,and when she was passing me by she looked at me in the eyes for a second,I thought to myself, wow such a beautiful girl cared to make eye-contact with me.............Since that day on i had this strange feeling in the gym, you know the one that you're being checked out by someone....... and then one day i took the courage and said goodbye to her as i was leaving the gym, so here's how it was: i  was walking toward the exit, and she was sitting on the abductor machine near the exit, so when i came close enough, i looked up into her eyes and she was allready looking me in the eyes,then i said:''bye'', and she responded with the nicest smile i had ever seen and said ''bye''.From that day on her and i would always greet eachother, even if she was 60 feet away, she would look in my direction and said hi with a big smile on her face.Eventhough we were saying hi to eachother i still didn't want to stare at her in the gym.Once in the dressing area she arrived while i was getting ready to leave.She said hi, and asked me:''so, looks like you're finished with your workout'', and all i could say was :''yes, I had enough for today''.One day i stepped up to her and started a conversation, it felt like we'd known eachother for years.She also asked me what my plans for new years eve were and told me that she also preffers not going to any big new year parties etc.I was very happy that day and was very confident that she liked me.I saw her talking to other guys on a daily basis as well in the gym and it made me very jealous, she was a very talkative person i guess.This is what my workout day resembled: She would rest for a minute, stretch, i'd look at her and she'd look at me, and that was all i needed that day, that one eye-contact satisfied my needs and from that moment on i would only focus on finishing my workout.And she would usually step up to me and say with a big smile a few words like, ''so you're working out hard i see''; haven't you had enough for today, '' etc.And then  one day she asked me what my name was and i told her and she told me hers and wanted to shake my hand, and i did, infront of  20 people that were present in the gym that day.One day she started talking about the weather outside, how she can't wait it to get hot and sunny  cause she wants to go to the sea and she asked me if i had any plans for the summer.....The other week i wanted to see her so badly that i bought some protein bars and went to the pharmnacy store she works at.She seemed very happy to see me bring that stuff to her, and she kept telling me how nice it was from me, I didn't ask her out that day though.So yesterday i thought to myself,this is it, i going to ask her out no matter what.........and i did, i asked her if she would go for a drink or something.She hesitated for a moment and then she replied that she has a serious boyfriend,that he always asks her things like:where've you been etc. and that she would'n want to hurt his feelings by going for a drink with some guy and that she wouldn't like him to do this to her either.She told me that she's very loyal to him and that she's not into messing around anymore.......I told her that i was in love with her and that i had to tell her that.She replied that i'd find somebody else, that I'd get over it.......She also liked the fact that i was honest about my feelings and that i could come to pay her a visit from time to time where she worked......
I wonder how comfortable her boyfriend would be with the fact that she regularly adresses guys in the gym

btw i'm 25 she's 28

could you please explain this girl to me if you have any idea, what's going trough her mind, why is she so open to everybody in the gym, flirting and stuff.I can't get her out of my head, I've never fallen for a girl and cried over one this much,I actually thought i she was interested in me big time

thank you for reading this, i wish i could be more illustrative but english isn't my first language........will be very gratefull for any response



 
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Playboy on March 29, 2007, 08:00:29 AM
first of all i'd like to apologize for any grammar mistakes...........

better get to the point........

I never was a fan of reguralry checking hort girls out in the gym i go to, I respect the fact that they have the right not to be bothered during the workout by somebody staring at them or hitting on them etc; I always paid attention to my workout,............ so about a year ago this girl joined our gym.I kinda' ignored her at first but there was something about her that.......i don't know, hard to explain.Well i managed to ignore her presence for a couple of months, and then one day after I'd finished my workout, as i was heading home , i stopped, looked in both directions and saw a car on my right, it was her, she'd finished her workout as well,and when she was passing me by she looked at me in the eyes for a second,I thought to myself, wow such a beautiful girl cared to make eye-contact with me.............Since that day on i had this strange feeling in the gym, you know the one that you're being checked out by someone....... and then one day i took the courage and said goodbye to her as i was leaving the gym, so here's how it was: i  was walking toward the exit, and she was sitting on the abductor machine near the exit, so when i came close enough, i looked up into her eyes and she was allready looking me in the eyes,then i said:''bye'', and she responded with the nicest smile i had ever seen and said ''bye''.From that day on her and i would always greet eachother, even if she was 60 feet away, she would look in my direction and said hi with a big smile on her face.Eventhough we were saying hi to eachother i still didn't want to stare at her in the gym.Once in the dressing area she arrived while i was getting ready to leave.She said hi, and asked me:''so, looks like you're finished with your workout'', and all i could say was :''yes, I had enough for today''.One day i stepped up to her and started a conversation, it felt like we'd known eachother for years.She also asked me what my plans for new years eve were and told me that she also preffers not going to any big new year parties etc.I was very happy that day and was very confident that she liked me.I saw her talking to other guys on a daily basis as well in the gym and it made me very jealous, she was a very talkative person i guess.This is what my workout day resembled: She would rest for a minute, stretch, i'd look at her and she'd look at me, and that was all i needed that day, that one eye-contact satisfied my needs and from that moment on i would only focus on finishing my workout.And she would usually step up to me and say with a big smile a few words like, ''so you're working out hard i see''; haven't you had enough for today, '' etc.And then  one day she asked me what my name was and i told her and she told me hers and wanted to shake my hand, and i did, infront of  20 people that were present in the gym that day.One day she started talking about the weather outside, how she can't wait it to get hot and sunny  cause she wants to go to the sea and she asked me if i had any plans for the summer.....The other week i wanted to see her so badly that i bought some protein bars and went to the pharmnacy store she works at.She seemed very happy to see me bring that stuff to her, and she kept telling me how nice it was from me, I didn't ask her out that day though.So yesterday i thought to myself,this is it, i going to ask her out no matter what.........and i did, i asked her if she would go for a drink or something.She hesitated for a moment and then she replied that she has a serious boyfriend,that he always asks her things like:where've you been etc. and that she would'n want to hurt his feelings by going for a drink with some guy and that she wouldn't like him to do this to her either.She told me that she's very loyal to him and that she's not into messing around anymore.......I told her that i was in love with her and that i had to tell her that.She replied that i'd find somebody else, that I'd get over it.......She also liked the fact that i was honest about my feelings and that i could come to pay her a visit from time to time where she worked......
I wonder how comfortable her boyfriend would be with the fact that she regularly adresses guys in the gym

btw i'm 25 she's 28

could you please explain this girl to me if you have any idea, what's going trough her mind, why is she so open to everybody in the gym, flirting and stuff.I can't get her out of my head, I've never fallen for a girl and cried over one this much,I actually thought i she was interested in me big time

thank you for reading this, i wish i could be more illustrative but english isn't my first language........will be very gratefull for any response



 
Be careful with the battlegrounds you choose to step in. Just because she made some good eye contact with you means absolutely nothing. She was just being polite and curtious. She eyeballed you when she drove by you simply because she probably recognized you from the gym. If she has a boyfriend, chances are she does NOT want to be with you and that she was just being polite. Thats it, thats all. Now if she asked youout or asked for your number it would be a different story. You wouldn't want to get her pissed off by hitting on her and then to top it off have her boyfriend take your head off with a louisville slugger. Just be nice as you were, move on and remember that your in there to train. Hope this helps.

PB
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: 24KT on March 29, 2007, 08:13:30 AM
She's made it clear. She has a boyfriend, and is not interested in another relationship outside of the one she already has. Accept it, and move on. If you press the issue further, you will make her uncomfortable... and that friendly smile will soon turn to resentment and hostility.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 29, 2007, 08:22:23 AM

Be careful with the battlegrounds you choose to step in. Just because she made some good eye contact with you means absolutely nothing. She was just being polite and curtious. She eyeballed you when she drove by you simply because she probably recognized you from the gym. If she has a boyfriend, chances are she does NOT want to be with you and that she was just being polite. Thats it, thats all. Now if she asked youout or asked for your number it would be a different story. You wouldn't want to get her pissed off by hitting on her and then to top it off have her boyfriend take your head off with a louisville slugger. Just be nice as you were, move on and remember that your in there to train. Hope this helps.

PB
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this happened 10 feet away from the gym's parking lot

thank you for responding to my post
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Parker on March 29, 2007, 09:29:15 AM
move on...If a woman tell yuou she has man (boyfriend) with the word "but" at the end of it. She's is taken.

as Jag said, if you press on you'll make her uncomfortable. And thenext time you need a "spot" on the bench, count on it for her to push down.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Deedee on March 29, 2007, 09:37:00 AM
I feel for you. It must hurt. :'(

Women often come off as being flirty because laughing and kidding around with the guys is often interpreted as special interest.  However, if women always had to make this big effort not to put any signal whatsoever that could be misinterpreted, they would walk around with no smile and never talk to anybody at all.  It would be miserable.

On the other hand, it's very possible that she might be attracted to you in some way... or just that she enjoys your attention.  It happens. But obviously she doesn't want to jeapordize what she has with this other person.  To her it could be just harmless flirting... everyone does it. And she wants to keep it that way.

Best way to get over it is see a bunch of other people.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: knny187 on March 29, 2007, 10:18:22 AM

First of all....."Congrats" dude.  It shows you got balls asking her out.  I do feel like you spent too much valuable time 'assessing' the situation though.  When you think you like someone or are attracted to someone....why wait?  All you're doing is giving a potential single girl the opportunity to get asked out by 50 guys by the time you draw the nerve.  Next time...pretty much do the exact same thing...but narrow it down it days...not weeks/months.  Who knows...maybe she just started to date this guy when you first saw her.  Well, alot of girls 'wonder' if they should waste their time with someone in the first few weeks.  You could have had an easier "in" per se...but thats in the past now.

Second...so she has a boyfriend.  Do you realize how many girls today have boyfriends & tomorrow they're single?  My best advice is to just 'let it go'.....but....still remain friendly & keep with the normal "Hi" & "Bye's" in the gym.  Do Not ask ever how her & the boyfriend is doing.  If she's interested...she'll let you know when things go sour.  If it was me...I may apologize for not knowing she had a boyfriend...."but it doesn't hurt to ask" kind of attitude as you say it.  I do think you went a little overboard with the "In love with you" statement.  Seriously....you're 25 right?  Can you tell me what it is being "In Love" with someone w/o even really talking with that person?  Small chit chat (gym chatter) doesn't constitute seriously talking with a woman.  You may be seriously infatuated & she may perceive the same thing.


Anyways....just don't do any more stupid things & just keep it real.  Be friendly, be nice, & go on with your life.  Sometimes....things happen for the best which never work out the way you intend it.  You could march on...get a girlfriend....break up....& then she might be available.

You never can tell.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 29, 2007, 10:37:47 AM
thank you all, especially knny and deedee for being really nice in your posts,you made me feel a little better, hope you feel the same way................just hope she does not feel uncomfortable in my presence, it would mean a lot if she still considered me a ''friend'' in the gym.........
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 29, 2007, 10:59:18 AM
thank you all, especially knny and deedee for being really nice in your posts,you made me feel a little better, hope you feel the same way................just hope she does not feel uncomfortable in my presence, it would mean a lot if she still considered me a ''friend'' in the gym.........

she likes ya...she REALLY does..now if ya dont grow a pair and ask her out (fuck ask her out for a glass of wine and a light snack right after the gym) you are surely gonna end up in friends territory...


i can bet $100 that you have already had this convo about her with several friends..i have friends like ya man..its like sometimes they want me to sit em down and convince them for hours that so n so girl likes em..in the end though they usually take too long and mess shit up....

...sooo... JUST ASK HER OUT....

picture her waking up in the morning and taking a nassy dump..might make her less intimidating...


...unless that stuff turns ya on  :P



...wait i went ahead and read the last paragraph..my gut is that ya waited too long and acted too apprehensive..the touch and go shit dosen't fly with some women..sme of em wanna be pulled and kissed! :)

chalk this under lesson learned..
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 29, 2007, 11:26:19 AM
she likes ya...she REALLY does..now if ya dont grow a pair and ask her out (fuck ask her out for a glass of wine and a light snack right after the gym) you are surely gonna end up in friends territory...


i can bet $100 that you have already had this convo about her with several friends..i have friends like ya man..its like sometimes they want me to sit em down and convince them for hours that so n so girl likes em..in the end though they usually take too long and mess shit up....

...sooo... JUST ASK HER OUT....

picture her waking up in the morning and taking a nassy dump..might make her less intimidating...


...unless that stuff turns ya on  :P



...wait i went ahead and read the last paragraph..my gut is that ya waited too long and acted too apprehensive..the touch and go shit dosen't fly with some women..sme of em wanna be pulled and kissed! :)

chalk this under lesson learned..

she sounded like she was seing him allready when she joined the gym..........
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 29, 2007, 11:42:04 AM
she sounded like she was seing him allready when she joined the gym..........

well then move on mate..or date another hottie from the same gym..

if this one isn't actually dating anyone and is lying to ya..trust me..seeing ya with a few hot girls..and she'll come around....unfortunately thats true of most women  :-\
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 29, 2007, 01:33:58 PM
well then move on mate..or date another hottie from the same gym..

if this one isn't actually dating anyone and is lying to ya..trust me..seeing ya with a few hot girls..and she'll come around....unfortunately thats true of most women  :-\

she's not lying, I'm sure now, i actually saw her once in the gym with this guy that now i believe was her boyfriend, but appart from me seing her talk to him and smile, i didn't notice anything else, I even asked a friend of mine that worked as a personal trainer that day if he'd seen anything,like them kissing,gently touching eachother........he told me he hadn't noticed anything that would put things to rest.......

so there was this other situation..........i just finished with my workout and was about to leave, but then this guy shows up, his locker was next to mine on the left......then after 30 seconds or so i see her passing by us talking to somebody on her cellphone, then she comes back to the ''aisle'' where that guy and i were sitting, and she says ''hi'' and i look up and reply with the same word.It turned out her locker was on my right, so i was sitting between them.Than i say to her:it's action time, right?, she smiles and says:''yes, what about you, are you finished''?So i say :yes I am, and continue putting my jacket on when suddenly she goes:''XXXX did you bring any water with you?'', and the guy on my left just mumbled something back, he didn't exactly appear to me as the happiest person....and then it hit me,.........i wanted to believe that it was her brother or a friend or something.......well it's obvious now that it was actually her boyfriend.It was like she was the one ''calling the shots'' when i saw them together, he seemed.......like he lacked confidence.......i don't know, maybe intimidated in some way cause he was just a regular guy as far as his  physique was concerned, can't tell for sure, but I haven't seen him for the past 3 months with her in the gym,............
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Deedee on March 29, 2007, 01:44:18 PM
You have co-ed locker rooms?  :o  What country are you from?
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Migs on March 29, 2007, 01:57:11 PM
You have co-ed locker rooms?  :o  What country are you from?

i thought ths same thing!

Dude, run.  be cordial if you have too but she isn't yours.  carry on there are unnattached girlies out there.  DOn't continue to think about it.  it'll eat you up
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 29, 2007, 02:30:43 PM
she's not lying, I'm sure now, i actually saw her once in the gym with this guy that now i believe was her boyfriend, but appart from me seing her talk to him and smile, i didn't notice anything else, I even asked a friend of mine that worked as a personal trainer that day if he'd seen anything,like them kissing,gently touching eachother........he told me he hadn't noticed anything that would put things to rest.......

so there was this other situation..........i just finished with my workout and was about to leave, but then this guy shows up, his locker was next to mine on the left......then after 30 seconds or so i see her passing by us talking to somebody on her cellphone, then she comes back to the ''aisle'' where that guy and i were sitting, and she says ''hi'' and i look up and reply with the same word.It turned out her locker was on my right, so i was sitting between them.Than i say to her:it's action time, right?, she smiles and says:''yes, what about you, are you finished''?So i say :yes I am, and continue putting my jacket on when suddenly she goes:''XXXX did you bring any water with you?'', and the guy on my left just mumbled something back, he didn't exactly appear to me as the happiest person....and then it hit me,.........i wanted to believe that it was her brother or a friend or something.......well it's obvious now that it was actually her boyfriend.It was like she was the one ''calling the shots'' when i saw them together, he seemed.......like he lacked confidence.......i don't know, maybe intimidated in some way cause he was just a regular guy as far as his  physique was concerned, can't tell for sure, but I haven't seen him for the past 3 months with her in the gym,............


thats one long post mang..

infatuation is a bitch mate..

move on... ;-)
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 29, 2007, 02:41:09 PM
You have co-ed locker rooms?  :o  What country are you from?

yes we do(somewhere in the middle of europe)..........and that reminds me of when she adressed me for the first time as explained in my first post and after that little chit-chat we were alone in this particular ''aisle'' and she was like 7 feet away and was leaning forward tieing up her shoes thus sticking her ''behind'' far out, and i was going to get some water and i had to go by her  but there wasn't enough space between her ''rear'' and the locker behind her, so I had to position my body pararel to her, i didn't want to make a bad impression on her by going by with my crotch facing her rear so  I turned around and i went by her with my ass facing hers.As i was returning to my locker she didn't move an inch.I repeated the drill though, i really had to squeze my body against the lockers to get by her, and she didn't move an inch, her ''rear'' was literally sticking in my face...........guess i misinterpreted that one too........well better luck next time right? 
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 29, 2007, 02:46:21 PM
i apologize for being a pain in the ass with my posts though, if anybody preffers to delete them go ahead, won't resent you
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Migs on March 29, 2007, 03:11:35 PM
ok not deleting them. your english is fine.  many girls are just flirty by nature.  now they other way to have hanfdled it was to smack her on the ass and say "let's get it on".  joking
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 29, 2007, 03:29:06 PM
i apologize for being a pain in the ass with my posts though,

ok STOP being THAT guy....DOOOD..stop apologizing for no reason..man o man it rubs me the wrong way..

thats only acceptable when you r drunk..


you are fine..ok ..ya liked a gir.l..she ends up having a BF..its done..

plenty of equally hot girls that you'll find equally unatainable and hense to you be equally desirable where that one came from..

i'm kinda like ya...i like going to stuff wayy out of me league..it thrills me..except at some point i actually grew me a set of balls mate..wish you were in MD..i'd slap some sence into you man  >:(
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 29, 2007, 03:55:02 PM


Second...so she has a boyfriend.  Do you realize how many girls today have boyfriends & tomorrow they're single?  My best advice is to just 'let it go'.....but....still remain friendly & keep with the normal "Hi" & "Bye's" in the gym.  Do Not ask ever how her & the boyfriend is doing.  If she's interested...she'll let you know when things go sour.  If it was me...I may apologize for not knowing she had a boyfriend...."but it doesn't hurt to ask" kind of attitude as you say it.  I do think you went a little overboard with the "In love with you" statement.  Seriously....you're 25 right?  Can you tell me what it is being "In Love" with someone w/o even really talking with that person?  Small chit chat (gym chatter) doesn't constitute seriously talking with a woman.  You may be seriously infatuated & she may perceive the same thing.




This is very good advice, dont blow a future chance, BUT this chick sounds a bit dangerous friend. Little Too flirty, huh?  Just a problem, your next in line?
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Blockhead on March 29, 2007, 03:55:59 PM
thank you all, especially knny and deedee for being really nice in your posts,you made me feel a little better, hope you feel the same way................just hope she does not feel uncomfortable in my presence, it would mean a lot if she still considered me a ''friend'' in the gym.........
WRONG! The LAST thing you want is for her to consider you a 'friend'. That word..."friend" is the absolute most horrible-horrible phrase a woman can call you. You'd MUCH rather get kicked in the balls by a mule and have sugar poured in your gas tank than be called or considered a "friend" by some beautiful woman. EDITED.  ;).

 Brother...allow BlockHead to help.

 Find a way to revamp your image. Go up to her tomorrow...go straight up to her and say..."Look...if you ever want a guy to fk your brains out and you ever want to get NUTS...then let me know..."

 Then walk away and ignore her.

 Trust me she'll respect it and you'll get her wheels turning. Just be sure to NOT be friendly and all clingy to her. Give her dirty looks...roll your eyes at her. Flip her off...give her a few 'cat call' whistles when she does stiff leg deadlifts. Let her know where you stand. All I'm saying is get the '...like this GUy who like...got this thing for me it's creepy I swear" image out of her head.

 Become a prick. Make her think you're a PIG and make her hate you a little bit. I promise you by July she'll submit and want to regain back the control and women know only ONE way to gain back the balance/power with a dude who makes them feel shitty...my sleeping with them.

 Good luck!
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 29, 2007, 04:00:20 PM
You have co-ed locker rooms?  :o  What country are you from?

Yes  they do that there. It Blew me away 1st time a woman came walking in the "guys?" shower in a gym in Holland. They think nothing of it. It's a bit unnerving to get eyed over by a chic when you look up and never have experienced it before in "YOUR" locker room. Travels a blast.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Deedee on March 29, 2007, 04:35:54 PM
i apologize for being a pain in the ass with my posts though, if anybody preffers to delete them go ahead, won't resent you

Your posts are fine.  It's an interesting story.  Carry on.  :)
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Deedee on March 29, 2007, 04:38:44 PM
Yes  they do that there. It Blew me away 1st time a woman came walking in the "guys?" shower in a gym in Holland. They think nothing of it. It's a bit unnerving to get eyed over by a chic when you look up and never have experienced it before in "YOUR" locker room. Travels a blast.

Well, I've traveled a lot, and have NEVER been in that situation. Don't think I'd like it, just because men are not so neat, and well, I'll leave it at that.  ;D
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Parker on March 29, 2007, 04:45:25 PM
Kreator,  One time in college I had a similar incident.
It was my junior year, And i spotted this 4'11 honey that was pure goddess!!! Well we kept giving each other "the eye", but we both were on our way to classes. Well, I got shy (yeah, I admit I punked out), and started looking away, everytime we made eye contact needless to say it started freak her out...Everytime I got the nerve to talk to her, something would come up, friends would need help, etc.

Well, I would see her everywhere, and I found that she did have a boyfriend. So I started avoiding her, taking different routes and talking to other women.. Due to me punking out, there was no chance for me.

Come to find out one of best freinds was friends with her boyfriend!!! AND he wasn't giving her up cause she was freak in bed...

Due to me not opening my mouth, that could have been my girl...
And I due owe her an apology.

So from the first scenario, learn, a closed mouth does not get fed, and that applies to any situation in life, whether it be women or jobs.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: knny187 on March 29, 2007, 05:50:23 PM
Yes  they do that there. It Blew me away 1st time a woman came walking in the "guys?" shower in a gym in Holland. They think nothing of it. It's a bit unnerving to get eyed over by a chic when you look up and never have experienced it before in "YOUR" locker room. Travels a blast.

Funny story for you.....

In the Marines when I was in Somalia....I had something like this happen.

When I got there...because of the nature of the situation & being on a constant move....we were not 'allowed a shower' for a little over a month when I first got into country.  Well, we were allowed...but there was absolutely no where to shower.  So....it got to a point where this detachment I was involved with....we finally got to pitch tents, build shitters, & yes...made modified showers.  The first shower unit was made out of wooden tent pole box.  You pry the lid off & stand it up.  The height is about 7ft tall & you cut a hole in it so a 5 gallon water jug can fit in it.  You step inside...unscrew the cap & presto...instant 5 gallon shower.  Well, I was attached with a forward element made up of us US Marines, Australian Army, French Foreign Legion....& some media.  Well, the Media had female reporters.  Being that we hadn't had a shower in so long (& we really didn't care) we showered right in broad daylight right out for anyone that cared.  Then again...Marines aren't exactly shy folk to begin with.  The women reporters were a little startled to say the least.

A month later we had engineers set up conex boxes adapted to a modified shower rig.  By the time....the US Army moved in with female's in their outfit.  The Marines were in charge for setting up security & day patrols.  Now the women & men in the US Army bivouac together.  They would turn off the lights when they changed at night...but we had NVG's  ;D  When it was time to post security for showers....the women hardly cared...I guess they got tired of watching Marines walking around with their tally whackers swinging in the breeze.

Anyways...we had the Sea Bee's construct a modified shitter.  Imagine a wooden shed....but the walls only go up about 3 1/2 feet.  There was a place for 3 people to take a crap....& buckets below which we burned on shit detail.  Long story short...because it was so damn hot in Somalia....we couldn't have it enclosed.  Imagine how bad it would stink?  Anyways....I got used to taking a crap in front of the whole world (women included) & when you have to go...you have to go. 



Then again...in Bootcamp....you shower/shit/piss/shave with 90 guys.  After you graduate....you really just don't care as much.




So back to your story....... ;)
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 29, 2007, 06:19:20 PM
Knny187 -  Glad your able to tell us about Somalia, Im going to pass on that destination myself.
They ought to slap up some of those 3 1/2' toilets inthe USA here and there.Save taxes.
In Holland they also have some walk-in urinals on the street here and there where you can see the guys legs from the outside, and you pee down a wall/ hole in the sidewalk into the sewers.

They are just a little more laid back about nudity and the human form than us uptight Americans.

OH I Forgot - THE GIRL! Kreator my Friend, telling her you loved her was likely a blow it deal, but ya never know.
It don't hurt to try. But just how bad does she come on to every guy? There is a line between friendly and a problem.  Your Englosh is fine,  just break up some paragraphs would make it easier on the eyes.
Tell us more krea... ;) 
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: knny187 on March 29, 2007, 06:43:48 PM
Knny187 -  Glad your able to tell us about Somalia, Im going to pass on that destination myself.
They ought to slap up some of those 3 1/2' toilets inthe USA here and there.Save taxes.
In Holland they also have some walk-in urinals on the street here and there where you can see the guys legs from the outside, and you pee down a wall/ hole in the sidewalk into the sewers.

They are just a little more laid back about nudity and the human form than us uptight Americans.

OH I Forgot - THE GIRL! Kreator my Friend, telling her you loved her was likely a blow it deal, but ya never know.
It don't hurt to try. But just how bad does she come on to every guy? There is a line between friendly and a problem.  Your Englosh is fine,  just break up some paragraphs would make it easier on the eyes.
Tell us more krea... ;) 

Sometimes I still have to remind myself to close the door when I use the bathroom.

I forget people really don't want to see me pee or take a dump.

Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 29, 2007, 06:49:24 PM
Well, check out some of the vids Diesal slaps up and rethink that one.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: knny187 on March 29, 2007, 07:00:54 PM
not to make anything sound gross.....


but that stuff doesn't alarm me.


I think I've pee'd on everything moving & nonmoving on this earth.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 29, 2007, 07:06:03 PM
DId you check the- 1. I got shit on my glasses, 2.and Asian fisting ones.??? ???
Those are precious. Im thinking twice from now on, but curiosity will get me.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Migs on March 29, 2007, 07:07:41 PM
DId you check the- 1. I got shit on my glasses, 2.and Asian fisting ones.??? ???
Those are precious. Im thinking twice from now on, but curiosity will get me.

rofl.  some of that is semi-disturbing
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: knny187 on March 29, 2007, 07:07:59 PM
DId you check the- 1. I got shit on my glasses, 2.and Asian fisting ones.??? ???
Those are precious. Im thinking twice from now on, but curiosity will get me.

Yeah....again....no surprise.

I had a friend in the Corps that would burry his fist up to his wrists with every girl he was with & take a polaroid.

 :-\


I never could figure what he liked about it other than causing women pain.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 29, 2007, 07:10:15 PM
Somthing for everyone,
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 29, 2007, 11:14:50 PM
Your posts are fine.  It's an interesting story.  Carry on.  :)

and there would be situations like when i entered the gym premises, she would be working out on the other side of the gym and sometimes I deliberately wouldn't look in her direction and say hi,but she'd eventually wind up nearby, i really had this feeling that she wanted me to be aware of her presence......for example:

i was warming up and stretching, saw her across the room, didn't pay much attention to her, and she came to me saying hi, asking me if I was about to use this certain piece of the equipment(triceps pushdown rope) that was attached to the cable crossover machine right beside me and then returned to her ''machine''....

another time......,was doing some lat pulldowns when i notice her enter the gym and do some light cardio warmup, then after 5 minutes i switched to seated rows and after my first set i had this strange feeling that someone was doing back extensions right behind my back, like 3 feet away.I didn't turn to look though.When she was done with one of her sets she went by me to stretch and looked back at me and smiled, said hi,I said hi as well  and she then streched in front of me, positioned perpendicularly to me(hanging from the cable crossover machine that had special handles installed for doing chins ), as she was returning back to that back extension equipment, i ignored her and proceeded with my next set.So when she was finished with back extensions she repeated the same thing,streched, and this time when she was passing me by, i was resting, sitting, and she goes like, ''so i see you working out hard again, huh?But you allways workout hard, now don't you?'' and she came close to me and she positioned herself in this crouched way right next to me waiting for me to reply, and i was like, ''well you know what they say, no pain no gain'', and she goes, ''yes, indeed'' and smiles constantly and waits for me to say something else but i didn't so she stood up and walked away......

believe me if her boyfriend saw the way she ''handled her business'' with other guys in the gym that were in much better shape than himself, he'd be furious.........at least i would.   
 

i hope i wasn't as delusional as I turned out to be when I was confronted by her with the fact that she's not interested in screwing up her relationship.........

and just thinking about them being together, holding hands, making love, the fact that she belongs to him, she could get any guy she wanted, and she choses him, this guy is so goddamn lucky............it's tearing me appart, it burns....... :'(, can't focus on my studying, training,.started skipping meals which i haven't done on purpose for the last 6 years............and all due to the fact i ''looked'' when i was supposed to focus on my workout and nothing else, period.That one mistake..........turned out to be the worst one i made.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Faust on March 30, 2007, 02:49:56 AM
and there would be situations like when i entered the gym premises, she would be working out on the other side of the gym and sometimes I deliberately wouldn't look in her direction and say hi,but she'd eventually wind up nearby, i really had this feeling that she wanted me to be aware of her presence......for example:

i was warming up and stretching, saw her across the room, didn't pay much attention to her, and she came to me saying hi, asking me if I was about to use this certain piece of the equipment(triceps pushdown rope) that was attached to the cable crossover machine right beside me and then returned to her ''machine''....

another time......,was doing some lat pulldowns when i notice her enter the gym and do some light cardio warmup, then after 5 minutes i switched to seated rows and after my first set i had this strange feeling that someone was doing back extensions right behind my back, like 3 feet away.I didn't turn to look though.When she was done with one of her sets she went by me to stretch and looked back at me and smiled, said hi,I said hi as well  and she then streched in front of me, positioned perpendicularly to me(hanging from the cable crossover machine that had special handles installed for doing chins ), as she was returning back to that back extension equipment, i ignored her and proceeded with my next set.So when she was finished with back extensions she repeated the same thing,streched, and this time when she was passing me by, i was resting, sitting, and she goes like, ''so i see you working out hard again, huh?But you allways workout hard, now don't you?'' and she came close to me and she positioned herself in this crouched way right next to me waiting for me to reply, and i was like, ''well you know what they say, no pain no gain'', and she goes, ''yes, indeed'' and smiles constantly and waits for me to say something else but i didn't so she stood up and walked away......

believe me if her boyfriend saw the way she ''handled her business'' with other guys in the gym that were in much better shape than himself, he'd be furious.........at least i would.   
 

i hope i wasn't as delusional as I turned out to be when I was confronted by her with the fact that she's not interested in screwing up her relationship.........

and just thinking about them being together, holding hands, making love, the fact that she belongs to him, she could get any guy she wanted, and she choses him, this guy is so goddamn lucky............it's tearing me appart, it burns....... :'(, can't focus on my studying, training,.started skipping meals which i haven't done on purpose for the last 6 years............and all due to the fact i ''looked'' when i was supposed to focus on my workout and nothing else, period.That one mistake..........turned out to be the worst one i made.
Dude, seriously, stop writing a novel about it.

I know, it sucks, it sucks bad. I've had it plenty of times i didn't get a girl cause i was too shy.
Work on it, start chatting/flirting with a lot of girls. Even the ones you're maybe not totally into.

I must confess, a while ago i made a thread similar to yours cause i didn't get the "perfect" girl. Guess what, now i realise she wasn't all that after all.

Take some distance and re-evaluate things.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Playboy on March 30, 2007, 10:04:52 AM
Dude, seriously, stop writing a novel about it.

I know, it sucks, it sucks bad. I've had it plenty of times i didn't get a girl cause i was too shy.
Work on it, start chatting/flirting with a lot of girls. Even the ones you're maybe not totally into.

I must confess, a while ago i made a thread similar to yours cause i didn't get the "perfect" girl. Guess what, now i realise she wasn't all that after all.

Take some distance and re-evaluate things.
Agreed 100%. The same happened to me a few years ago.

PB
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: knny187 on March 30, 2007, 10:28:21 AM
and there would be situations like when i entered the gym premises, she would be working out on the other side of the gym and sometimes I deliberately wouldn't look in her direction and say hi,but she'd eventually wind up nearby, i really had this feeling that she wanted me to be aware of her presence......for example:

i was warming up and stretching, saw her across the room, didn't pay much attention to her, and she came to me saying hi, asking me if I was about to use this certain piece of the equipment(triceps pushdown rope) that was attached to the cable crossover machine right beside me and then returned to her ''machine''....

another time......,was doing some lat pulldowns when i notice her enter the gym and do some light cardio warmup, then after 5 minutes i switched to seated rows and after my first set i had this strange feeling that someone was doing back extensions right behind my back, like 3 feet away.I didn't turn to look though.When she was done with one of her sets she went by me to stretch and looked back at me and smiled, said hi,I said hi as well  and she then streched in front of me, positioned perpendicularly to me(hanging from the cable crossover machine that had special handles installed for doing chins ), as she was returning back to that back extension equipment, i ignored her and proceeded with my next set.So when she was finished with back extensions she repeated the same thing,streched, and this time when she was passing me by, i was resting, sitting, and she goes like, ''so i see you working out hard again, huh?But you allways workout hard, now don't you?'' and she came close to me and she positioned herself in this crouched way right next to me waiting for me to reply, and i was like, ''well you know what they say, no pain no gain'', and she goes, ''yes, indeed'' and smiles constantly and waits for me to say something else but i didn't so she stood up and walked away......

believe me if her boyfriend saw the way she ''handled her business'' with other guys in the gym that were in much better shape than himself, he'd be furious.........at least i would.   

Women don't like jealous guys.  A statement like this....would not go over well.  I would bet she would end up breaking up with you in a short time because you have insecurities & jealousies like this


 

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i hope i wasn't as delusional as I turned out to be when I was confronted by her with the fact that she's not interested in screwing up her relationship.........

and just thinking about them being together, holding hands, making love, the fact that she belongs to him, she could get any guy she wanted, and she choses him, this guy is so goddamn lucky............it's tearing me appart, it burns....... :'(, can't focus on my studying, training,.started skipping meals which i haven't done on purpose for the last 6 years............and all due to the fact i ''looked'' when i was supposed to focus on my workout and nothing else, period.That one mistake..........turned out to be the worst one i made.

I think that I felt like this once when I was 13 in Jr high.

Dude...be the captain of your own ship.  You need women (hence plural) that want to come on board & be taken for a cruise.  You're 25 for christ sake.  Obsessing over one girl that's already taken is a little extreme.  Obsessing about her while she's with someone is not going to get her & it's only going to drive you nuts.  Then the day when she is friendly & talks to you...she'll know there's something not right & will slowly stay away from you.

 
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 30, 2007, 05:49:31 PM
Hey Krea,
 You know the good news? This attractive young woman sees you as desirable, and that means others do to!  Dont count her out, but dont obsess over her. Put her on your list. Its great she'll come and talk to you, get a big collection of interesting gals like that everywhere you go. That way hopefully you find one who relay matches your personality and life well. 

Personally, I'd kind of watch her from a distance and make a realistic appraisal of just how flirty she is w/ lots of guys. If she's really using her body for attention too much with lots of guys, she could have a major insecurity issue. Perhaps she just likes to tag a lot of guys? Well, no harm there if your one, just use your head and don't lose your heart to that sort (IF that be so).

Also, if she keeps coming around, and  shes NOT married, She is FAIR GAME as far as I'm concerned!  I personally would recommend NEVER messing w/ married women, unless invited by her man, or if  you are 100% sure shes getting divorced (and then Stay the hell out of their house - Bang!)

Anyway dont let anyone make you feel like its the end of the world,  you were fine before you met her, your fine now, is the attitude to have. NEVER let someone bring you down. Thats Easier said than done, but your a young guy.
 AND TELL US MORE about your girlfriends! I'm married and only get to flirt with girls here and there. You get to do all the fun chase'N adventures still kid ;)
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on March 31, 2007, 05:44:28 AM
thanx for the kind words trab, we'll see what happens next time our paths cross in the gym, don't worry, I don't intend to adress her or even try to make eye-contact during the workout, a regular ''hi'' coming from me will do............maybe she won't be as uncomortable as I expect her to be.......who knows,guess time will tell,after all she did tell me to drop by sometime at the place she works at(i usually go there to get some vitamin C powder and she's aware of it)...............
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: youandme on March 31, 2007, 11:45:55 AM
Screw it, you need to stop attaching all this good to her now, she said after you asked her out "I'm loyal to my boyfriend...I don't do that anymore" that should have been a warning light that went off in your head, that this girl was bad news, she the type B behavior girl, the girl that seeks your attentio nwith a boyfriend and then when you do get the courage to ask her out she rejects you, she enjoysyour chainsg her, and she enjoys the follow up in making you think about her, and seeing how long you stay attached to her even after she gave you the news of her having a boyfriend. Type A is the girl that will drag you into the relationship she has with another man to create problems with her boyfriend to win more affection (the most fvcked up type of botches) what you need to do is associate bad things with this girl, she's a tramp, whore, money sucker,  on top of that she probably stunk like day old crap, whatever you can think of, start talking to other girls in the gym in fron on her, just say hey to anygirl in the gym, hot or not, when she sees that it makes her self worth go down. Pay her little attention and only allow a few words at best no discussions. When she comes around again, you can either hit it and quit it or getwith it sounds like she is trying to settle down after some problemed relationships.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: 24KT on March 31, 2007, 05:26:08 PM
Screw it, you need to stop attaching all this good to her now, she said after you asked her out "I'm loyal to my boyfriend...I don't do that anymore" that should have been a warning light that went off in your head, that this girl was bad news, she the type B behavior girl, the girl that seeks your attentio nwith a boyfriend and then when you do get the courage to ask her out she rejects you, she enjoysyour chainsg her, and she enjoys the follow up in making you think about her, and seeing how long you stay attached to her even after she gave you the news of her having a boyfriend. Type A is the girl that will drag you into the relationship she has with another man to create problems with her boyfriend to win more affection (the most fvcked up type of botches) what you need to do is associate bad things with this girl, she's a tramp, whore, money sucker,  on top of that she probably stunk like day old crap, whatever you can think of, start talking to other girls in the gym in fron on her, just say hey to anygirl in the gym, hot or not, when she sees that it makes her self worth go down. Pay her little attention and only allow a few words at best no discussions. When she comes around again, you can either hit it and quit it or getwith it sounds like she is trying to settle down after some problemed relationships.

And people wonder why women are sometimes scared to even have a friendly conversation with a guy?  :-\

He automatically thinks ...she wants me, ...and when he finds out she doesn't, ...she's treated like shit.  ::)
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Parker on March 31, 2007, 06:04:44 PM
And people wonder why women are sometimes scared to even have a friendly conversation with a guy?  :-\

He automatically thinks ...she wants me, ...and when he finds out she doesn't, ...she's treated like shit.  ::)

Never looked at it like this...but it makes sense.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 31, 2007, 06:15:53 PM
Keep talking to her, what the hell. But its not the end of the world if shes w/ another guy. Yeah, she could be a problem, but so can everything else in life. If she were an older woman that puppy type Love comments will blow your chances right now, but your both only abouts 25 or so? Hey thats still kids, and kids should have fun.
Youandme does have a good point about the kind that like to create jealousy, that is real bad breed. But I'm not 100% on that here. ANd so what if she only just does want to bang you some time,Like you should be saying please God, make  it stop?? Hell no, you should hope shes rich too! Dont get hung up on her.
You know chicks like you so go get a big ass collection of prospects.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on March 31, 2007, 06:45:36 PM
Parker

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Quote from: jaguarenterprises on Today at 05:26:08 PM
And people wonder why women are sometimes scared to even have a friendly conversation with a guy? 

He automatically thinks ...she wants me, ...and when he finds out she doesn't, ...she's treated like shit. 

Park...
Never looked at it like this...but it makes sense.
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 Yeah, if I'm just TOTALY DISINTERSETED, and strike up passing conversation, I can get a strange woman the other day to tell me shes a art teacher, and where, before the elevator even goes down 3 floors..OK?
Now, shes getting even more friendly as were parting ways inthe lot... easy pickings if I'd want.
The key is just being open, friendly, not bad looking, funny, and just get her talking about some stupid thing thats going on around you...  Take it where you want from there.

The better question for these single guys is how to get women to talk about Themselves, preferably all subconsciously childlike about fun things they love, or USED TO do... Then you get your game plan
Surprise her with what she don't even remember telling you. Ha.Shes yours bud.
 
 
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on April 01, 2007, 10:37:33 AM
And people wonder why women are sometimes scared to even have a friendly conversation with a guy?  :-\

He automatically thinks ...she wants me, ...and when he finds out she doesn't, ...she's treated like shit.  ::)

i never said i was going to treat her like shit from then on............I'd be more than happy if she were still interested in saying more than just ''hi'' next time.At least now i know where i stand so my perception of 'things' won't be as blury as it used to be
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on April 01, 2007, 11:12:31 AM
i never said i was going to treat her like shit from then on............I'd be more than happy if she were still interested in saying more than just ''hi'' next time.At least now i know where i stand so my perception of 'things' won't be as blury as it used to be

I dont think that was Jags intent. Ask her.
I think she was pointing out how youandme's post suggested all that negative thought toward women & thats why a girl has to be extra carefull even saying hello. Face it, chicks got to be carefull. 

Also go back and Take a look at the part where you write how you can be a lot better for her than her guy etc.  Its kind of on the
young dude, not real experienced line of thought. ( I dont want to be rude & say immature; your young enough to be my kid)  But, women do want a guy they can rely on and trust and feel secure, safe etc.  I've also found they respect and treat you better if you also stand up for Yourself with them.
Any 2 people in a relation will start to get on each others nerves and try to push the other to change too far for the others tastes after awhile. Sometime you got to stand up and let another know they are not able to dictate everything.
Several Guys I've seen who let that get going early in a marriage, are all stuck (trapped) in very crappy marriages.

I dont care if it's your dog, your sports car you've had for years, your hunting rifles, your old friends.... any woman who walks into your life and demands you give up stuff thats been important to you long term will tend to keep right on going. I'm thinking of about 3 bad marriages there. They are pointless relationships. The guy showed no balls.  Women respect an assertive guy who fairly stands up for himself, and for her.
Its almost like they will test you like this. Never let a attractive woman control you like that. Its not necessary to think/treat her like a whore/tramp/golddigger etc though. I'd hate to see the kind of woman that will stick around for that.

Don't get all stuck on one hot looking girl that has your head spinning, theres lots more. 
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: youandme on April 01, 2007, 11:30:56 AM
And people wonder why women are sometimes scared to even have a friendly conversation with a guy?  :-\

He automatically thinks ...she wants me, ...and when he finds out she doesn't, ...she's treated like shit.  ::)

It's all about her signal, my point was blunt that's how it is.

I never said treat her like shit, but don't let her waste your time either.

Yes that is human nature, it's called sexual selection.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Deedee on April 01, 2007, 11:44:20 AM
What everyone says is true, and very insightful... going by the way the convo was related though, and from the female side, she said "no thanks," making sure to add in the part about how she wouldn't be unfaithful. If she was very, very interested, she wouldn't have added in the last part.  She would have just said she has a boyfriend and let the cards fall where they may.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: knny187 on April 01, 2007, 11:56:53 AM
And people wonder why women are sometimes scared to even have a friendly conversation with a guy?  :-\

He automatically thinks ...she wants me, ...and when he finds out she doesn't, ...she's treated like shit.  ::)

I agree with you (smacking myself) but I do.

I have a few guy friends that think that all of the time.  I always ask them "can a girl just be friendly with you & talk w/o you thinking she just wants you?"

They almost always say no.  For some reason...they equate a girl talking to them as a girl that wants them.

Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on April 01, 2007, 01:22:35 PM
I dont think that was Jags intent. Ask her.
I think she was pointing out how youandme's post suggested all that negative thought toward women & thats why a girl has to be extra carefull even saying hello. Face it, chicks got to be carefull. 

Also go back and Take a look at the part where you write how you can be a lot better for her than her guy etc.  Its kind of on the
young dude, not real experienced line of thought. ( I dont want to be rude & say immature; your young enough to be my kid)  But, women do want a guy they can rely on and trust and feel secure, safe etc.  I've also found they respect and treat you better if you also stand up for Yourself with them.
Any 2 people in a relation will start to get on each others nerves and try to push the other to change too far for the others tastes after awhile. Sometime you got to stand up and let another know they are not able to dictate everything.
Several Guys I've seen who let that get going early in a marriage, are all stuck (trapped) in very crappy marriages.

I dont care if it's your dog, your sports car you've had for years, your hunting rifles, your old friends.... any woman who walks into your life and demands you give up stuff thats been important to you long term will tend to keep right on going. I'm thinking of about 3 bad marriages there. They are pointless relationships. The guy showed no balls.  Women respect an assertive guy who fairly stands up for himself, and for her.
Its almost like they will test you like this. Never let a attractive woman control you like that. Its not necessary to think/treat her like a whore/tramp/golddigger etc though. I'd hate to see the kind of woman that will stick around for that.

Don't get all stuck on one hot looking girl that has your head spinning, theres lots more. 


hmm.......i don't recall writing that....ok maybe i went a little overboard with the statement about me being furious if in his shoes.......i just pointed out that when i saw them together she acted like the one with 'the pair'.......... but then when she told me that she wouldn't sit down and have a drink with some guy due to the fact that she didn't want to hurt the boyfriend's feelings by doing something behind his back cause he'd allways ask her things like:where've you been,you should have been here by now  etc.,(now doesn't that sound like 'jealousy overkill'?) that sounded like She was the one being kept on a short leash.Afterall would she act the same way if we ran into eachother somewhere else,say, in a mall,would she refuse to sit down for the same reason?Would she have to call her man and ask him if it's ok to have a drink with somebody she knows and unfortunately turns out to be a male?Does that mean that she's never going to have a drink with somebody if that person turns out to be some other guy she runs into and knows him from the gym, work?Just a thought..........

i didn't exactly tell her that i was in love with her, the exact words where that she'd make my heart rate go through the roof when I'd see her car pull over to the parking lot  and that i liked her very much.
   
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: youandme on April 01, 2007, 01:52:04 PM
Afterall would she act the same way if we ran into eachother somewhere else,say, in a mall,would she refuse to sit down for the same reason?Would she have to call her man and ask him if it's ok to have a drink with somebody she knows and unfortunately turns out to be a male?Does that mean that she's never going to have a drink with somebody if that person turns out to be some other guy she runs into and knows him from the gym, work?Just a thought..........

   
Yeah she would sit down with you and remind you she had a boyfriend while still putting ideas in yuour head that she is available, loving the chase, the flirting, and the worshipping. Faithful women avoid situations like that though, with people they know are attracted to them, when they don't it's when they start testing their relationship and the it evolves into an affair. No it doesnt mean she won't ever have a drink with someone while in the relationship, it means you showed her your cards to early in the game, and know you sunk the battleship, cause she knows if she goes to have a drink with you knowing that you intend to charm her, then it becomes infidelity. If you had started out as friends told her "she's funny, cool to hangout with" and gained her trust then you could have turned the tables later. thats why I said you have to associate her with negativity you fell for her too fast and unless she wants to go outsidethe realtionship, or start a fight within her relationship then she won't be giving you a call anytime soon. It's cool and took alot of balls to tell her how you felt right off the bat, but that kinda honesty is too much.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on April 01, 2007, 02:43:48 PM
Yeah she would sit down with you and remind you she had a boyfriend while still putting ideas in yuour head that she is available, loving the chase, the flirting, and the worshipping. Faithful women avoid situations like that though, with people they know are attracted to them, when they don't it's when they start testing their relationship and the it evolves into an affair. No it doesnt mean she won't ever have a drink with someone while in the relationship, it means you showed her your cards to early in the game, and know you sunk the battleship, cause she knows if she goes to have a drink with you knowing that you intend to charm her, then it becomes infidelity. If you had started out as friends told her "she's funny, cool to hangout with" and gained her trust then you could have turned the tables later. thats why I said you have to associate her with negativity you fell for her too fast and unless she wants to go outsidethe realtionship, or start a fight within her relationship then she won't be giving you a call anytime soon. It's cool and took alot of balls to tell her how you felt right off the bat, but that kinda honesty is too much.


we were having a normal conversation and somewhere in the middle of it i asked her if she'd like to hang out sometime maybe go for a drink or somethin' like that.And only after she refused, i revealed my true intensions.She must have gotten the picture when i brought her those protein bars to the place she works at, damn i just wanted to see her so badly.She could have told me back then:''look, if you're trying to get somewhere with me, oi's not going to happen, i'm allready taken and I can't take anything from you'' but she didn't, she acted and sounded overwhellmed:''ahhh, are these for me, that's so nice.......''

oh boy, this  really resembles a novel.........
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: trab on April 01, 2007, 03:31:59 PM
Also, Consider she don't know what way shes even going?  Hey its hard to figure sometime. This kind can be telling' you she don't do this or that- while she's unzipping your pants. This would not surprise me.
Or one year from now or 6 months? keep prospects open and carry on.
 
I like what youand me says about showed emotionall cards too early, but we got to keep in perspective different age groups of the people talking here. You and her are both young, shes not a divorced 37 yr old manager in a corporation somewhere. Early emotional stuff will spook that older woman right off. If this girls good looking, and still coming up and talking to you in the gym- other girls are also going to notice and pay attention to you.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: gh15 on April 01, 2007, 09:11:49 PM
again advice from the gh15 house of love,,erase it when hes done reading,,thanks sisters

".........and i did, i asked her if she would go for a drink or something.She hesitated for a moment and then she replied that she has a serious boyfriend,that he always asks her things like:where've you been etc. and that she would'n want to hurt his feelings by going for a drink with some guy and that she wouldn't like him to do this to her either.She told me that she's very loyal to him and that she's not into messing around anymore"


i got good news for you and not so good news for you,,

1) girl is yours within the next 12 months
2) girl will most likley be someone elses within 24 months

but hey maybe you will be the one that will do it for her and she will stay with you,,see the no controling thing as first rule in keeping a girl when she is yours,,

you did most things right beside revealing your love? you cant love no one without touching them and knowing them and being with them for some time one on one,, and also you should be less up her ass and do your own thing as in make her want to be around you without kissing ass and with out too much talk,,how? thats for you to figure out,,i would send 80$ worth of pink big headed roses yes hot pink not red with other type of flowers,,TO HER WORK PLACE!,, the moment she get single and write on the note hope your day is good or something like that signing it,,your secret admierer,,she is pretty much yours after

enjoy and dont forget to keep showing up when she is single!


*general rules for you guys:

1. a girl that  smile at you is not neccesarily wanting you
2. a girl that smile at you and do everything she can to get your attention,,,as in coming to train beside you,,tellin you that you are strong and lift so much weight etc,,calling you big or huge boy,,starting to talk about her diet and fitness aspirations when you show up,,bennding her ass infront of your face when you bench or squat,,touch your forarms or tricep by "mistake" while talkin to you,, that girl wants you and you simply need to smile and talk to her for her to go with you out
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: 24KT on April 02, 2007, 12:25:28 AM
I dont think that was Jags intent. Ask her.
I think she was pointing out how youandme's post suggested all that negative thought toward women & thats why a girl has to be extra carefull even saying hello. Face it, chicks got to be carefull. 

Also go back and Take a look at the part where you write how you can be a lot better for her than her guy etc.  Its kind of on the
young dude, not real experienced line of thought. ( I dont want to be rude & say immature; your young enough to be my kid)  But, women do want a guy they can rely on and trust and feel secure, safe etc.  I've also found they respect and treat you better if you also stand up for Yourself with them.
Any 2 people in a relation will start to get on each others nerves and try to push the other to change too far for the others tastes after awhile. Sometime you got to stand up and let another know they are not able to dictate everything.
Several Guys I've seen who let that get going early in a marriage, are all stuck (trapped) in very crappy marriages.

I dont care if it's your dog, your sports car you've had for years, your hunting rifles, your old friends.... any woman who walks into your life and demands you give up stuff thats been important to you long term will tend to keep right on going. I'm thinking of about 3 bad marriages there. They are pointless relationships. The guy showed no balls.  Women respect an assertive guy who fairly stands up for himself, and for her.
Its almost like they will test you like this. Never let a attractive woman control you like that. Its not necessary to think/treat her like a whore/tramp/golddigger etc though. I'd hate to see the kind of woman that will stick around for that.

Don't get all stuck on one hot looking girl that has your head spinning, theres lots more. 

Bingo!
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on April 02, 2007, 12:27:47 AM
you think i should apologize to her for mistaking her kindness to me with affection?It's just that i've never met a girl so open, nice and talkative in a gym.Hot looking girls usually mind their own business and act like they don't care for others present....Our gym is nowhere near as big as gold's or world's, it's a small one and things like girls touching guys, or leaning forward in front of them on purpose wouldn't be unnoticed, she did introduce herself to me and shake my hand in front of everybody else though............i never thought of the whole thing this way, she probably just wanted to be nice to me......i kinda' feel sorry for her, she must be having guys come on to her all the time for being too nice.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: 24KT on April 02, 2007, 12:38:34 AM
you think i should apologize to her for mistaking her kindness to me with affection?It's just that i've never met a girl so open, nice and talkative in a gym.Hot looking girls usually mind their own business and act like they don't care for others present....Our gym is nowhere near as big as gold's or world's, it's a small one and things like girls touching guys, or leaning forward in front of them on purpose wouldn't be unnoticed, she did introduce herself to me and shake my hand in front of everybody else though............i never thought of the whole thing this way, she probably just wanted to be nice to me......i kinda' feel sorry for her, she must be having guys come on to her all the time for being too nice.

If you want to apologize, ...I don't think there's any harm in it.
Infact, it might alleviate any pressure she might feel just being around you.

However, if you do apologize, you need to follow through on your apology with the type of actions that demonstrate your sincerity, by keeping things on a strictly platonic level, ...otherwise it will backfire, ...and youandme only's advice about treating her like shit is useless. You cannot merely simulate such negative hostile feelings about a person without directly shooting that hostility towards them, ...especially if this is someone you come into contact with.

Just do your things, respect the fact that she's currently in a relationship, and who knows, ...she may soon be yours.
Sounds like she's got a jealous one on her hands, ...and it's only a matter of time before he's history.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Faust on April 02, 2007, 03:16:22 AM
you think i should apologize to her for mistaking her kindness to me with affection?It's just that i've never met a girl so open, nice and talkative in a gym.Hot looking girls usually mind their own business and act like they don't care for others present....Our gym is nowhere near as big as gold's or world's, it's a small one and things like girls touching guys, or leaning forward in front of them on purpose wouldn't be unnoticed, she did introduce herself to me and shake my hand in front of everybody else though............i never thought of the whole thing this way, she probably just wanted to be nice to me......i kinda' feel sorry for her, she must be having guys come on to her all the time for being too nice.

Dude.
Don't apologize. You have nothing to apologize for. Don't feel sorry for her either. She may think it's cute, but she won't respect you if you behave like you don't have a spine.

There's nothing wrong with flirting, or even asking her out, she was probably flattered by it if u did it in a respectful way. Like i said, start chatting/flirting with a lot of girls, you'll get better at reading their intentions.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: 24KT on April 02, 2007, 11:20:02 AM
Dude.
Don't apologize. You have nothing to apologize for. Don't feel sorry for her either. She may think it's cute, but she won't respect you if you behave like you don't have a spine.

There's nothing wrong with flirting, or even asking her out, she was probably flattered by it if u did it in a respectful way. Like i said, start chatting/flirting with a lot of girls, you'll get better at reading their intentions.


True he has "nothing to apologize for", ...however it would be a considerate gesture that would at least re-open the door to dialogue to enable him to get things back on the right track. Sometimes you can win the battle... but lose the war.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Playboy on April 02, 2007, 11:24:43 AM
True he has "nothing to apologize for", ...however it would be a considerate gesture that would at least re-open the door to dialogue to enable him to get things back on the right track. Sometimes you can win the battle... but lose the war.
I say just move right along and go pick up and or meet new women. Time is money and so is time spent on wondering what would have been. To much energy is wasted here. Move on and forget about this headache. Its one less asperin saved.

PB

Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Faust on April 02, 2007, 11:32:43 AM
True he has "nothing to apologize for", ...however it would be a considerate gesture that would at least re-open the door to dialogue to enable him to get things back on the right track. Sometimes you can win the battle... but lose the war.
Well, it's an option. I wouldn't do it, but a little sorry could put things back in "neutral" mode, if there's any tension right now, and he still wants to keep her as an "option"...

But this is probably getting over-analysed.
I say just move right along and go pick up and or meet new women. Time is money and so is time spent on wondering what would have been. To much energy is wasted here. Move on and forget about this headache. Its one less asperin saved.
Easier said than done but probably the best thing to do.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: knny187 on April 02, 2007, 04:16:13 PM


Second...so she has a boyfriend.  Do you realize how many girls today have boyfriends & tomorrow they're single?  My best advice is to just 'let it go'.....but....still remain friendly & keep with the normal "Hi" & "Bye's" in the gym.  Do Not ask ever how her & the boyfriend is doing.  If she's interested...she'll let you know when things go sour.  If it was me...I may apologize for not knowing she had a boyfriend...."but it doesn't hurt to ask" kind of attitude as you say it.  I do think you went a little overboard with the "In love with you" statement.  Seriously....you're 25 right?  Can you tell me what it is being "In Love" with someone w/o even really talking with that person?  Small chit chat (gym chatter) doesn't constitute seriously talking with a woman.  You may be seriously infatuated & she may perceive the same thing.


remember....this is what I said
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: youandme on April 02, 2007, 07:51:18 PM
you think i should apologize to her for mistaking her kindness to me with affection?

Never apologize! Never apologize for being nice!!
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: BuffGoddess on April 02, 2007, 10:32:50 PM
Don't apologize, just treat her like a friend and nothing else. Remember that when you're in the gym, you're there to work out. If you treat it like a meat market you'll definitely attract the wrong type of girl. It sounds to me that she's a little overly flirtatious, that would tend to cause problems with you later. Best to forget about a relationship with that one, it sounds like nothing but trouble for you.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on April 03, 2007, 06:32:53 AM
there's one more thing i'd like to get straight,.......well a minute or so, after i asked her out and got turned down, she asked me what my zodiac sign was and told me that she was really into that horoscope 'stuff'.......btw it turned out that my sign was ''cancer'' and hers was ''taurus''...........so can somebody explain what was all that about?I'm as clueless as it gets regarding horoscope.......any ideas?
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: Deedee on April 03, 2007, 10:47:28 AM
there's one more thing i'd like to get straight,.......well a minute or so, after i asked her out and got turned down, she asked me what my zodiac sign was and told me that she was really into that horoscope 'stuff'.......btw it turned out that my sign was ''cancer'' and hers was ''taurus''...........so can somebody explain what was all that about?I'm as clueless as it gets regarding horoscope.......any ideas?

It means at least you have that going for you at this point... since cancer and taurus are compatible.  :D

It means she was sizing you up, trying to decide who you are. People who believe in astrology believe there are certain personality traits common to each sign. For instance, if you had been an aquarius, she'd never look at you again.
Title: Re: desperate........girls help please
Post by: kreator on April 11, 2007, 02:21:23 PM
finally,first confrontation after the turn down,it took place in the gym offcourse,after she streched the first thing she did she came over asking me how i was doing, if everything was okay, then we talked for a minute about some other general stuff............., i was so relieved..........for a while i thought she'd be avoiding me...........this girl is pure gold


btw, she mentioned something about going on vacation for a month to USA with her boyfriend in the near future, I'd like to put a hit on him, anybody interested?JOKE ;D ;D ;D