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A coke head confessed drug abuser
An olympian, actor and former politician
choose 1
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Have you just lost your fucking marbles? Get the fuck outta here and remove this shit . ???
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Watched 10 seconds of that fag and I was out.
Made the mistake of watching one of his even gayer instructional chin-up/dip videos from his homo apartment.
Guy should hook up with tbombz and his bunny suit.
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To each their own but for me, zyzz was more inspirational.
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Watched 10 seconds of that fag and I was out.
Made the mistake of watching one of his even gayer instructional chin-up/dip videos from his homo apartment.
Guy should hook up with tbombz and his bunny suit.
Fortunately a gay bathhouse sauna took care of the fruity emo-cut drug addict queer.
Edit: just watched the vid and realized you were talking about the homosexual host. My mistake
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Who.thinks up this shit, Zyzz was an utter fag
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Zyzz was cool, that is until be fucked up and died. Had thousands upon thousands of kids eating out of his hands.
But come on...Arnold ? Lets not be stupid.
This post was written by Jonathan Coin.
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It's crazy, but if you look around at today's gymrats it's pretty clear Zyzz is a fucken martyr to generation nothingness.
You remember that line from the late Chris Farley in Tommy Boy, "You better pray to the god of skinny punks.."? Yeah, that's Zyzz.
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Didnt even know who this zyzz fag was until he died.
Arnold is arnold. Stupid question.
Zyzz was important and inspirational to a very small few compared Arnold. Good for him in appealing to the absolutley moronic bottom of tge barrel of todays youth, but lets be honest...
Arnold is numero uno. He inspired multiple generations and kickstarted a country wide social fitness revolution in the 80s.
Zyzz got kids saying 'you mirin? You mirin brah?' And got every 125lb twink using steroids. Hes akso responsible for some of the most annoying subculture trends in modern gymgoing youth.
Yeah, Arnold.
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Didn't we have a similar thread floating around here at one point titled "Better physique...Prime Zyzz vs Prime Frank Zane"?
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Didnt even know who this zyzz fag was until he died.
Arnold is arnold. Stupid question.
Zyzz was important and inspirational to a very small few compared Arnold. Good for him in appealing to the absolutley moronic bottom of tge barrel of todays youth, but lets be honest...
Arnold is numero uno. He inspired multiple generations and kickstarted a country wide social fitness revolution in the 80s.
Zyzz got kids saying 'you mirin? You mirin brah?' And got every 125lb twink using steroids. Hes akso responsible for some of the most annoying subculture trends in modern gymgoing youth.
Yeah, Arnold.
The interesting thing will be.....Zyzz died young and at his peak, so we will never see him age. Arnold will grow old and feeble and we will forget the true Alpha he once was.
Take both of them at the age of 25 and put them in a gym and Arnold would make that JohnnyNoName look-alike cry.
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a junkie or a Bodybuilder, actor, director, producer, businessman, investor, politician, writer who packed wine, women and weights to cruise the forests on a daily basis.
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a junkie or a Bodybuilder, actor, director, producer, businessman, investor, politician, writer who packed wine, women and weights to cruise the forests on a daily basis.
Dude, today's youts don't aspire to be any of that. Shit, they don't see past what they're doing this weekend.
They're too geeked on adderall and numbed by ssri's.
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Zyzz was higly overrated
Both are
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eh..
one came to the US not speaking English, put himself through school, got a real estate license, made a million before he was ever in a movie and anybody knew his name, then made millions and got his name recognized the world over.
the other? posted youtube clips of himself doing coke and doing pushups and walking around looking like he did NOTHING BUT pushups and a few leg raises to build an anorexic 'physique' with tren and clen...... and dies in his sleep of a drug overdose.
is this even debatable?
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eh..
one came to the US not speaking English, put himself through school, got a real estate license, made a million before he was ever in a movie and anybody knew his name, then made millions and got his name recognized the world over.
the other? posted youtube clips of himself doing coke and doing pushups and walking around looking like he did NOTHING BUT pushups and a few leg raises to build an anorexic 'physique' with tren and clen...... and dies in his sleep of a duet overdose.
is this even debatable?
It shouldn't be, yet here we are.......
Sign of the apocalypse? Pestilence? Lol
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Zeppelin vs. Bieber.
C'mon.
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Zeppelin vs. Beiber.
C'mon.
Before or after he cut the bieb bob hair do?
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Zeppelin vs. Bieber.
C'mon.
Robert can plant his cock in my Bonham.
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love the Freddy Krueger hat on Scooby
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Both had heart problems, one operated on and one was out cold. Be smart follow your own path.
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eh..
one came to the US not speaking English, put himself through school, got a real estate license, made a million before he was ever in a movie and anybody knew his name, then made millions and got his name recognized the world over.
the other? posted youtube clips of himself doing coke and doing pushups and walking around looking like he did NOTHING BUT pushups and a few leg raises to build an anorexic 'physique' with tren and clen...... and dies in his sleep of a drug overdose.
is this even debatable?
6ft at around 200lbs I think.
What would you weigh in the same condition?
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eh..
one came to the US not speaking English, put himself through school, got a real estate license, made a million before he was ever in a movie and anybody knew his name, then made millions and got his name recognized the world over.
the other? posted youtube clips of himself doing coke and doing pushups and walking around looking like he did NOTHING BUT pushups and a few leg raises to build an anorexic 'physique' with tren and clen...... and dies in his sleep of a drug overdose.
is this even debatable?
To be fair zyzz had more muscle than you on less gear and simultaneously being a coke addict.
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6ft at around 200lbs I think.
What would you weigh in the same condition?
Hahaha, brutal truth.
ESFitness would be 200 pounds MAX in the same condition (which he will never achieve, because he finished the set early when he feel the weights are disrespecting him)
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To be fair zyzz had more muscle than you on less gear and simultaneously being a coke addict.
you think so? 230 @ 8-10% dieted down to 5-6% is less than 200lbs eh?
epic math skills you have.
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you think so? 230 @ 8-10% dieted down to 5-6% is less than 200lbs eh?
epic math skills you have.
Yes it is.
Especially with vague "8-10%", you lose some water too.
He simply looks better than you ever could, it's genetic. He carried more lean mass on his frame than you do.
Arnold? To this day he lies about steroid use.
Zyzz? Was honest about the steroids and whatever else use.
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Zyzz was cool, that is until be fucked up and died. Had thousands upon thousands of kids eating out of his hands.
But come on...Arnold ? Lets not be stupid.
This post was written by Jonathan Coin.
Greg worshipping some piece of trash half his age.
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you think so? 230 @ 8-10% dieted down to 5-6% is less than 200lbs eh?
epic math skills you have.
That quote proves you have never been down to 5-6%
Give it a go, you will learn something and you will be able to post pics and shut us up.
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you think so? 230 @ 8-10% dieted down to 5-6% is less than 200lbs eh?
epic math skills you have.
Well if you are 230lbs at 8% that's very good.
But my point is you're being awfully critical of zyzz when you are equally as reckless! I mean you seem like a decent enough guy and all, but I can't fathom your colossal drug intake. It seems silly to me.
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Arnold admitted steroid use back in the 70's the video is online.
Yes it is.
Especially with vague "8-10%", you lose some water too.
He simply looks better than you ever could, it's genetic. He carried more lean mass on his frame than you do.
Arnold? To this day he lies about steroid use.
Zyzz? Was honest about the steroids and whatever else use.
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Cystenegger - inspiring since premature death.
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Zyzz addressed many problems of todays generation, nerdy, skinny, insecure, locked at home. He removed all this from his life, thats main reason why so many with similar backround followed him and still follow his legacy. His message simply was "YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LIFE". Probably inspired tens of thousands to do the change. Probably biggest internet fitness related story ever.
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Zyzz addressed many problems of todays generation, nerdy, skinny, insecure, locked at home. He removed all this from his life, thats main reason why so many with similar backround followed him and still follow his legacy. His message simply was "YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LIFE". Probably inspired tens of thousands to do the change. Probably biggest internet fitness related story ever.
translation - we're all gonna make it bra.
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Zyzz addressed many problems of todays generation, nerdy, skinny, insecure, locked at home. He removed all this from his life, thats main reason why so many with similar backround followed him and still follow his legacy. His message simply was "YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LIFE". Probably inspired tens of thousands to do the change. Probably biggest internet fitness related story ever.
Exactly. Zyzz wanted people to be their best. Arnold was about Arnold only. Generally I find that most people who hate on zyzz wish they could be like him both physique wise and care free enjoying life wise
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Zyzz addressed many problems of todays generation, nerdy, skinny, insecure, locked at home. He removed all this from his life, thats main reason why so many with similar backround followed him and still follow his legacy. His message simply was "YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LIFE". Probably inspired tens of thousands to do the change. Probably biggest internet fitness related story ever.
I think youre grossly overestimating his importance. BB fans tend to forget that nobody except for gives a fuck except the .00001% that are into building muscle.
In short - 99.9999% of internet people didnt give a fuck or even know this kids name. Hell, 99%of people into fitness didnt give a fuck. Only the extremely small percentage of BB forum/youtube kids did.
Not exactly the far reaching revolutionary youre trying to make him out to be. Not like Arnold, who single handedly kick started the fitness industry revolution in the 80-90s.
Retarded comparison, but not surprising considering your status as a attic dwelling shut in.
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(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/Misc/ArnoldsAffair.gif)
priceless, this made my day.
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Yes i don't know why people try and pretend arnold hasn't inspired and helped countless people get into shape/bodybuilding etc. His charisma and physique got peoples butts in the gym and he didn't stop at that, he promoted fitness on the presidents council and created the classic where tons of different athletes can shine. Yes he profits but he can and has made millions without others benefiting.
I think youre grossly overestimating his importance. BB fans tend to forget that nobody except for gives a fuck except the .00001% that are into building muscle.
In short - 99.9999% of internet people didnt give a fuck or even know this kids name. Hell, 99%of people into fitness didnt give a fuck. Only the extremely small percentage of BB forum/youtube kids did.
Not exactly the far reaching revolutionary youre trying to make him out to be. Not like Arnold, who single handedly kick started the fitness industry revolution in the 80-90s.
Retarded comparison, but not surprising considering your status as a attic dwelling shut in.
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If Zyzz is inspirational then people have really low standarts.
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A coke head confessed drug abuser
An olympian, actor and former politician
choose 1
X 2
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Yes i don't know why people try and pretend arnold hasn't inspired and helped countless people get into shape/bodybuilding etc. His charisma and physique got peoples butts in the gym and he didn't stop at that, he promoted fitness on the presidents council and created the classic where tons of different athletes can shine. Yes he profits but he can and has made millions without others benefiting.
I think a lot of the people on these forums are younger and that didn't know/weren't around for the "fitness revolution" during those time periods. The making of pumping iron goes into it quite deeply, it's a great watch. I never understood Arnolds impact on the country/world until I watched that vid. It's incredible how influential Arnold was, especially considering how BB was such a subculture in the 70s.
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Have you just lost your fucking marbles? Get the fuck outta here and remove this shit . ???
This!
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Zyzz addressed many problems of todays generation, nerdy, skinny, insecure, locked at home. He removed all this from his life, thats main reason why so many with similar backround followed him and still follow his legacy. His message simply was "YOU CAN CHANGE END YOUR FUCKING LIFE". Probably inspired tens of thousands to do the change. Probably biggest internet fitness related story ever.
Let's see how that plays out, shall we.
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I agree with everything he says except that Zyzz's physic is attainable naturally. Bodybuilding was a lie to sell supplements. >:(
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I agree with everything he says except that Zyzz's physic is attainable naturally. Bodybuilding was a lie to sell supplements. >:(
could build something like his body naturally but it would take 10+ years of total dedication and good genes.
he was 6'1.5 225lbs pretty lean in the end before he died
zyzz body was built on tren, test, dnp mainly
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Zyzz went out early. Arnold is still coming.
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This has to be a joke who the fuck is zyzz. I could ask everyone I know an maybe one person would know who he was. Zyzz lmao!
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This has to be a joke who the fuck is zyzz. I could ask everyone I know an maybe one person would know who he was. Zyzz lmao!
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Both had heart problems, one operated on and one was out cold. Be smart follow your own path.
BooM!! The man has spoken
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translation - we're all gonna make it bra.
lol
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Zyzz went out early. Arnold is still coming.
Can you believe how much he is in heaven?! He is coming at home, he is coming in the gym, he is coming backstage when he pumps up/pumps bikini chicks....
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Zyzz never competed, and he still looked like a beanpole while on steroids.
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So.... zyzz made some youtube vids, trolled some girls, , and started some obnoxious and gay trends in a gym subculture.
Yeah, totally comparable to Ahnooollld.
Young insecure twinks adored him liked because they felt like they too could take steroids, lift weights, put on a fake personality and become popular and maybe get laid and overcome beta-ness. Except that deep down, theyre still beta as fuck, and no amount of roids or lifting is going to give them the confidence or extrovert personality they saw in zyzz and wajted for themselves.
In conclusion - zyzz = generation nothingness youtube star, where dumbass kids think that a guy grtting some views on the interwebz is somehow an influential worldwide sensation comparable to the KING, who was actually broadcast on national television and in blockbuster movies showing of his muscles and alphaness to BILLIONS of people over 3 decades.
Yeah, sorry, zyzzs few youtube views and one liners aint shit compared to Arnold, and anyone who thinks their influence is comparable is a generation nothingness moron who greatly over exaggerates the importance of these 'internet somebodies'
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So.... zyzz made some youtube vids, trolled some girls, , and started some obnoxious and gay trends in a gym subculture.
Yeah, totally comparable to Ahnooollld.
Young insecure twinks adored him liked because they felt like they too could take steroids, lift weights, put on a fake personality and become popular and maybe get laid and overcome beta-ness. Except that no deep down, theyre still beta as fuck, and no amount of roids or lifting is going to give them the confidence or extrovert personality they saw in zyzz and wajted for themselves.
In conclusion - zyzz = generation nothingness youtube star, where dumbass kids think that a guy grtting some views on the interwebz is somehow an influential worldwide sensation comparable to the KING, who was actually broadcast on national television and in blockbuster movies showing of his muscles and alphaness to BILLIONS of people over 3 decades.
Yeah, sorry, zyzzs few youtube views and one liners aint shit compared to Arnold, and anyone who thinks their influence is comparable is a generation nothingness moron who greatly over exaggerates the importance of these 'internet somebodies'
Boooom! I've never made it through an entire Zyzz vid, but all I saw was a webcam boy with a goofy ass haircut posing and dancing semi-nude for both men and women. I don't understand how that's inspirational unless you're a skinny, insecure bisexual.
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So.... zyzz made some youtube vids, trolled some girls, , and started some obnoxious and gay trends in a gym subculture.
Yeah, totally comparable to Ahnooollld.
Young insecure twinks adored him liked because they felt like they too could take steroids, lift weights, put on a fake personality and become popular and maybe get laid and overcome beta-ness. Except that deep down, theyre still beta as fuck, and no amount of roids or lifting is going to give them the confidence or extrovert personality they saw in zyzz and wajted for themselves.
In conclusion - zyzz = generation nothingness youtube star, where dumbass kids think that a guy grtting some views on the interwebz is somehow an influential worldwide sensation comparable to the KING, who was actually broadcast on national television and in blockbuster movies showing of his muscles and alphaness to BILLIONS of people over 3 decades.
Yeah, sorry, zyzzs few youtube views and one liners aint shit compared to Arnold, and anyone who thinks their influence is comparable is a generation nothingness moron who greatly over exaggerates the importance of these 'internet somebodies'
Arnold would be nothing without steroids too. Don't forget that.
Anyways I agree with most of your points other than what you say about new generations. Makes you sound like an old whiny bitter man
Every generation is a step up from the previous generally. It's called evolution and natural selection. Happens among humans also.
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I think youre grossly overestimating his importance. BB fans tend to forget that nobody except for gives a fuck except the .00001% that are into building muscle.
In short - 99.9999% of internet people didnt give a fuck or even know this kids name. Hell, 99%of people into fitness didnt give a fuck. Only the extremely small percentage of BB forum/youtube kids did.
Not exactly the far reaching revolutionary youre trying to make him out to be. Not like Arnold, who single handedly kick started the fitness industry revolution in the 80-90s.
Retarded comparison, but not surprising considering your status as a attic dwelling shut in.
Not true. Many people knew who Zyzz was, a lot of kids might not be into bodybuilding or training that deeply but they know this shit from Facebook. A LOT knew.
Zyzz made the pages of the main paper in Sydney before he died. Partly because of his brother's dealing.
To whoever said Zyzz was honest about his drug use, yes, until he became famous, then he denied it.
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If Zyzz is inspirational then people have really low standarts.
What was inspirational about him was he was doing his own thing the way he wanted to do it. That inspired other to do their own thing. No different than Arnold's mentality or Warren Buffet.
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Arnold would be nothing without steroids too. Don't forget that.
Anyways I agree with most of your points other than what you say about new generations. Makes you sound like an old whiny bitter man
Every generation is a step up from the previous generally. It's called evolution and natural selection. Happens among humans also.
Im 28 bro, and the steroid use is irrelevant for both zyzz and Arnold IMO, its their followers that it matters to. Arnold got people working out with or without juice, zyzz got scrawny socially awkward types slamming gear hoping to overcome their personality issues.
And the new generation points stand - thyey grossly overestimate the impact of their fleeting online idols 15sec of fame... they always show up in a flash and suddenly are gone when their audience attention span ends and theyre on to the next flavor of the minute.
Thats how the internet and facebook generation work, trust me, I see it everyday, im part of it, my wife is 21 ffs.
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Not true. Many people knew who Zyzz was, a lot of kids might not be into bodybuilding or training that deeply but they know this shit from Facebook. A LOT knew.
Zyzz made the pages of the main paper in Sydney before he died. Partly because of his brother's dealing.
To whoever said Zyzz was honest about his drug use, yes, until he became famous, then he denied it.
Sorry, but the main page of the sydney newspaper and bring popular on facebook is NOTHING compared to Arnold
As o said earlier, Arnold inspired billions over 3 decades starting on national television in the 70s and moving globally in dozens of blockbuster movies, also starting a fitness revolution on the 80s and 90s.
People say 'well zyzz did it his way and people liled that'
What do you think Arnold did? He was told movies didnt want muscularity. They created an entire genre around him. He did EVERYTHING his way and he climbed all rhe way from immigrant to BB legend to global movie legend to fucking governor of a state with a GDP higher than most european COUNTRIES.
Zyzz may have inspired a few hundred thousands.... maybe a million.
Arnold inspired BILLIONS, and became a HOUSEHOLD NAME. You can ask 50 people om the street who zyzz is MAYBE 5 of them might know. You ask who Arnold S is and EVERYONE knows. Hell, ive never ran into amyone outside a few gym kids who know who zyzz is.
No comparison.
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Anyone who thinks arnold would be nothing without steroids is crazy, maybe he wouldn't have been mr o or a movie star but a man with his drive would succeed no matter What, he would have found another path. I think people like to ignore arnold went to business school and made his first million through real estate. Yea that really needs roids.
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I should make clear that I have nothing against the kid, he did his thing and he had fun, good in him. But he is in no way comparable to Arnold. His popularity is more a product of the internet generations low standards and short attention span.
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Zyzz? insist this the little Kunt that dropped dead at 23 from doing too much recreational shit.
Congrats: You have won the ''shiitiest thread of the year''
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haha, the british queef at the start of that clip says 'goddamn' in a southern us stylee then slips back into his poncey southern (english) accent ::)
that whore pictured would get it hard.. very hard!
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They should not even be in the same thread. That said Zyzz did set a standard on marketing oneself on social media.
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Dat whale saying "too much muscle" :D
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Zyzz never competed, and he still looked like a beanpole while on steroids.
You must be huge, yes, let's show these fan boys....
Some pictures of you, maybe?
Will you?
If no, why not?
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You can ask 50 people om the street who zyzz is MAYBE 5 of them might know.
I don't believe anyone off the street would know how that is.
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I don't believe anyone off the street would know how that is.
Does it matter? Zyzz banged numerous hot bitches, while Arnold impregnated a sea monster and that fugly housemaid :D
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Sorry, but the main page of the sydney newspaper and bring popular on facebook is NOTHING compared to Arnold
As o said earlier, Arnold inspired billions over 3 decades starting on national television in the 70s and moving globally in dozens of blockbuster movies, also starting a fitness revolution on the 80s and 90s.
People say 'well zyzz did it his way and people liled that'
What do you think Arnold did? He was told movies didnt want muscularity. They created an entire genre around him. He did EVERYTHING his way and he climbed all rhe way from immigrant to BB legend to global movie legend to fucking governor of a state with a GDP higher than most european COUNTRIES.
Zyzz may have inspired a few hundred thousands.... maybe a million.
Arnold inspired BILLIONS, and became a HOUSEHOLD NAME. You can ask 50 people om the street who zyzz is MAYBE 5 of them might know. You ask who Arnold S is and EVERYONE knows. Hell, ive never ran into amyone outside a few gym kids who know who zyzz is.
No comparison.
I'm not saying anything about him vs Arnold. I'm saying more people knew about him than what you are saying.
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The interesting thing will be.....Zyzz died young and at his peak, so we will never see him age. Arnold will grow old and feeble and we will forget the true Alpha he once was.
Take both of them at the age of 25 and put them in a gym and Arnold would make that JohnnyNoName look-alike cry.
Arnold would of got into his head , embarrassed him in front of an audience and made him leave the gym like he never even lifted , while saying something like "If you don't have it don't hit it" !
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I'm not saying anything about him vs Arnold. I'm saying more people knew about him than what you are saying.
Well this thread is about him vs arnold...... also, I firmly believe less than 1% of the general population had any idea who that kid was.
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Sorry, but the main page of the sydney newspaper and bring popular on facebook is NOTHING compared to Arnold
As o said earlier, Arnold inspired billions over 3 decades starting on national television in the 70s and moving globally in dozens of blockbuster movies, also starting a fitness revolution on the 80s and 90s.
People say 'well zyzz did it his way and people liled that'
What do you think Arnold did? He was told movies didnt want muscularity. They created an entire genre around him. He did EVERYTHING his way and he climbed all rhe way from immigrant to BB legend to global movie legend to fucking governor of a state with a GDP higher than most european COUNTRIES.
Zyzz may have inspired a few hundred thousands.... maybe a million.
Arnold inspired BILLIONS, and became a HOUSEHOLD NAME. You can ask 50 people om the street who zyzz is MAYBE 5 of them might know. You ask who Arnold S is and EVERYONE knows. Hell, ive never ran into amyone outside a few gym kids who know who zyzz is.
No comparison.
And yes Arnold is a household name , but so is garbage , and it stinks when it gets old too.
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Anyone who thinks arnold would be nothing without steroids is crazy, maybe he wouldn't have been mr o or a movie star but a man with his drive would succeed no matter What, he would have found another path. I think people like to ignore arnold went to business school and made his first million through real estate. Yea that really needs roids.
Arnold had "sponsors", and we all know what that means. The man arrived with nothing but muscles and the bulge in his posing trunks. He used Weider and other schmoes to advance himself financially and to make the connections he needed. It is true that he had an unparalleled ambition and the smarts to manipulate his way into the upper echelon. But he is a sociopath, a user of people, and a master manipulator.
Of course, for all that, he gets my vote.
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And yes Arnold is a household name , but so is garbage , and it stinks when it gets old too.
Whether you like him or not, the topic was 'who was more influential'. That question is really not even debatable.
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Does it matter? Zyzz banged numerous hot bitches, while Arnold impregnated a sea monster and that fugly housemaid :D
Because Arnold bangs everybody. "Big ass, little ass, small breasts, big breasts.."
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Because Arnold bangs everybody. "Big ass, little ass, small breasts, big breasts.."
I always thought that part of being alpha is being selective...
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This scooby character is so freaking annoying. 4chan harassed him once, and even found out he was gay lol. I guess I'm not the only one who thinks he's annoying.
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could build something like his body naturally but it would take 10+ years of total dedication and good genes.
he was 6'1.5 225lbs pretty lean in the end before he died
zyzz body was built on tren, test, dnp mainly
Perhaps this explains why he died at 23 years of age of an undiagnosed heart condition.
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Perhaps this explains why he died at 23 years of age of an undiagnosed heart condition.
my guess would be DNP in combination with a hot sauna did it. not a good combo. but who knows what he was on during that time maybe clen and rec drug too
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my guess would be DNP in combination with a hot sauna did it. not a good combo. but who knows what he was on during that time maybe clen and rec drug too
Pre existing undiagnosed heart condition.
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Pre existing undiagnosed heart condition.
did autopsy really say that or just family/friends?
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kid was never 225, are u insane?
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And he looked like shit his last few months.
"dedicated body builder who likes to party sometimes"
Became
"cokehead who lifts weights"
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kid was never 225, are u insane?
pretty sure he was in the end like 220-225.. he wasn't a midget so why so hard to believe??
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/g.jpg)
(http://proteinofthegods.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/zyzz-aesthetics.jpg)
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/08/10/1226112/220844-zyzz.jpg)
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maybe but then arnold was rumoured to be about that in the 80 O and this z geezer isn't close to that
pretty sure he was in the end like 220-225.. he wasn't a midget so why so hard to believe??
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/g.jpg)
(http://proteinofthegods.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/zyzz-aesthetics.jpg)
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/08/10/1226112/220844-zyzz.jpg)
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maybe but then arnold was rumoured to be about that in the 80 O and this z geezer isn't close to that
Arnold was that dried out competition weight
(http://i4.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0129/98/90cb7245d3a20b72d265d744c61f2a98.jpg)
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pretty sure he was in the end like 220-225.. he wasn't a midget so why so hard to believe??
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/g.jpg)
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Id buy it if he was like 6'3".
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Its sad that he died. Would be pretty interesting how he would develop during the last 3 years.
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Its sad that he died. Would be pretty interesting how he would develop during the last 3 years.
As groink already pointed out, he was in a downward spiral. He probably would have looked kike shit and been a full time addict by now.
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anyways I just listened to this and he didn't die in a sauna but at a massage parlor. his brother thought someone gave him something but who knows and hes dead so what does it matter
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anyways I just listened to this and he didn't die in a sauna but at a massage parlor. his brother thought someone gave him something but who knows and hes dead so what does it matter
Well that is interesting. Wonder if it was a legitimate massage parlor or one of those that specializes in "happy endings"? If it was the latter, he certainly got more than he bargained for and it was anything but happy.
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Well that is interesting. Wonder if it was a legitimate massage parlor or one of those that specializes in "happy endings"? If it was the latter, he certainly got more than he bargained for and it was anything but happy.
Well, he died doing what he loved.
So reassuring to hear this silly cliche. Really, he enjoyed the sensation of his organs shutting down? A favorite pastime of his? Or was it the sheer death panic he loved so much?
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Well, he died doing what he loved.
So reassuring to hear this silly cliche. Really, he enjoyed the sensation of his organs shutting down? A favorite pastime of his? Or was it the sheer death panic he loved so much?
I am not sure how you got that from my post where I stated his ending was anything but happy. -Can't imagine there are many people who love the experience of dying.
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I am not sure how you got that from my post where I stated his ending was anything but happy. -Can't imagine there are many people who love the experience of dying.
No, I wasn't ripping on you. Just reminded me of the cliche is all. Wasn't meant that way, sorry.
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No, I wasn't ripping on you. Just reminded me of the cliche is all. Wasn't meant that way, sorry.
No need to apologize. I was just checking to be sure I was not somehow miscommunicating. This is something I am working on right now. I write in a conversational manner. Conversations often have holes in them which lead to misunderstandings. This problem is magnified when someone is communicating in writing. Writers misstate themselves and readers sometime read things into what is written.
I've seen a few people die during my lifetime. I have yet to see someone die happy as they say. Dying in your sleep is probably the easiest way to go. If you know you are dying, you fight like heck to stay alive....at least this has been my experience.
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No need to apologize. I was just checking to be sure I was not somehow miscommunicating. This is something I am working on right now. I write in a conversational manner. Conversations often have holes in them which lead to misunderstandings. This problem is magnified when someone is communicating in writing. Writers misstate themselves and readers sometime read things into what is written.
I've seen a few people die during my lifetime. I have yet to see someone die happy as they say. Dying in your sleep is probably the easiest way to go. If you know you are dying, you fight like heck to stay alive....at least this has been my experience.
I would imagine so, but nobody wants to admit, "Yeah, he died doing what he hated the most. You know, fucken suffering!"
Not very comforting.
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never 220, at his height he would've been more impressive than he was, more likely somewhere between 205 - 210
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never 220, at his height he would've been more impressive than he was, more likely somewhere between 205 - 210
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u some kind of authority on these weight things shut up already
it was verified by himself and many
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u some kind of authority on these weight things shut up already
it was verified by himself and many
and u believe everything what u read, right?
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and u believe everything what u read, right?
not wannabes like you
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not wannabes like you
shredded at 220 - 225 and 6'1'' is impressive in my book and would turn heads even wearing long sleeves, dude had a great body (not best arm genetics though) but was nowhere near that weight
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shredded at 220 - 225 and 6'1'' is impressive in my book and would turn heads even wearing long sleeves, dude had a great body (not best arm genetics though) but was nowhere near that weight
200 max
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200 max
x2
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I believe he said he was 205-210 . Sounds right. Guy wasn't a bullshitter.
In that "simply shredded" video, his best look IMO, he had some thickness to him. Great fucking torso from the front.
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He could have been 220 pounds after a carb load day, soft and full of water. Easy possible he was tall.
Sev's protege gains 40 pounds from a carb up.
He was never really "shredded", contest weight would have been under 200 pounds.
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He could have been 220 pounds after a carb load day, soft and full of water. Easy possible he was tall.
Sev's protege gains 40 pounds from a carb up.
He was never really "shredded", contest weight would have been under 200 pounds.
And you are?
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never 220, at his height he would've been more impressive than he was, more likely somewhere between 205 - 210
This 220 not a chance.
He did look good though, very aesthetic and had a unique build but small arms.
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Zyzz's weight is irrelevant, he possessed an ideal pussy pulling physique. It's a shame that a heart defect ended his time prematurely, I am curious as to how he would have progressed. Love him or not his message was positive.
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I prefer zyzz as a body inspiration because he didn't have the Arnold one in a million genetics. He was a skinny kid that built a great physique, mired by thousands. He gave hope to kids who are skinny twinks or video game playing fatsos that they can vastly improve their body.
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I prefer zyzz as a body inspiration because he didn't have the Arnold one in a million genetics. He was a skinny kid that built a great physique, mired by thousands. He gave hope to kids who are skinny twinks or video game playing fatsos that they can vastly improve their body.
He had very good genetics.
The guys with shit genetics are the ones who hop on gear, and look like big blocky fullbacks. The guys with good genetics hop on gear and they look like bodybuilders
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He had very good genetics.
The guys with shit genetics are the ones who hop on gear, and look like big blocky fullbacks. The guys with good genetics hop on gear and they look like bodybuilders
I agree. Great response to gear.
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I agree. Great response to gear.
Yup...and the guys who look like crap are the ones who usually wind up in trouble...because now they are running things for size, to get cut and to stay dry and that's when bad shit happens
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He had very good genetics.
The guys with shit genetics are the ones who hop on gear, and look like big blocky fullbacks. The guys with good genetics hop on gear and they look like bodybuilders
This.
His physique almost defines aesthetics, which are not common in modern bodybuilding. Top echelon of genetics, Reeves , Zane.
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This.
His physique almost defines aesthetics, which are not common in modern bodybuilding. Top echelon of genetics, Reeves , Zane.
Peter McGough said it well, describing a prime Flex Wheeler......"it's just as much where you dont have muscle, as where you do. The nooks and crevices create a detailed physique"
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Peter McGough said it well, describing a prime Flex Wheeler......"it's just as much where you dont have muscle, as where you do. The nooks and crevices create a detailed physique"
Yup, McGough definitely described it best.
And didn't Arnold saying something along the lines of "I got beat by a man with no body" when he lost to Zane.. ? Funny Zane saying Arnold had "nothing below the waist" they both described their aesthetics as a negative when those factors were what made their physiques 'flow' and attributed to their success.
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Yup, McGough definitely described it best.
And didn't Arnold saying something along the lines of "I got beat by a man with no body" when he lost to Zane.. ? Funny Zane saying Arnold had "nothing below the waist" they both described their aesthetics as a negative when those factors were what made their physiques 'flow' and attributed to their success.
And that's the difference...guys from days gone by were hungrier, and obsessed with creating the ultimate physique. They busting their fucking asses in the gym.
Nowadays I'ts fucking slin and synthol, and they walk around like they did something.
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If there is life after death or Zyzz is up in heaven looking down on Getbig right now, he must be thrilled with all the attention he's getting. It is probably more than he got in life.
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I'd bet a wooden nickel zyz was 190.
the dude wore womens boy-shorts, carried a purse, and had a "jon & Kate Plus 8" haircut, complete with highlights.. and eye-liner
... and had an ego as big as his baggie of cocaine would allow, despite having a 'physique' consisting of abs and chest, and 24inch thighs.
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I'd bet a wooden nickel zyz was 190.
the dude wore womens boy-shorts, carried a purse, and had a "jon & Kate Plus 8" haircut, complete with highlights.. and eye-liner
... and had an ego as big as his baggie of cocaine would allow, despite having a 'physique' consisting of abs and chest, and 24inch thighs.
and destroyed your physique every day of the week.
I dont understand the negativity.
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(http://www.zyzz.org/jpg/G-Zyzz-admirado-por-Arnold-Schwarzenegger.jpg)
The most inspirational photo currently on the planet
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and destroyed your physique every day of the week.
I dont understand the negativity.
I love how you base your idea of my physique on pictures you're well aware were taken either on the way down to my lowest bodyweight since my sophomore year in high school, or in the weeks after i got out of the hospital after suffering from paralysis. not like i haven't talked about this many times before.. long before any pics were posted. and since I've used 6g's a week.. hell, even 7g/wk, that i must still be using 7g's and must have been using that dosage weekly for years..... grown man trolling and twisting facts, very sad.
and destroyed my physique? lol.. half my back is wider than his entire torso ever was.
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I love how you base your idea of my physique on pictures you're well aware were taken either on the way down to my lowest bodyweight since my sophomore year in high school, or in the weeks after i got out of the hospital after suffering from paralysis. not like i haven't talked about this many times before.. long before any pics were posted. and since I've used 6g's a week.. hell, even 7g/wk, that i must still be using 7g's and must have been using that dosage weekly for years..... grown man trolling and twisting facts, very sad.
and destroyed my physique? lol.. half my back is wider than his entire torso ever was.
It's not about size or the scale.
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I love how you base your idea of my physique on pictures you're well aware were taken either on the way down to my lowest bodyweight since my sophomore year in high school, or in the weeks after i got out of the hospital after suffering from paralysis. not like i haven't talked about this many times before.. long before any pics were posted. and since I've used 6g's a week.. hell, even 7g/wk, that i must still be using 7g's and must have been using that dosage weekly for years..... grown man trolling and twisting facts, very sad.
and destroyed my physique? lol.. half my back is wider than his entire torso ever was.
Why dont you show us instead of keep waffling on how magnificent you are?
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I believe he said he was 205-210 . Sounds right. Guy wasn't a bullshitter.
In that "simply shredded" video, his best look IMO, he had some thickness to him. Great fucking torso from the front.
He said 209lbs while being about 6-7% bf. He didn't lie about anything and he was almost 6'2 so I believe him. He was honest about his cocaine, tren, hgh, clen, and dnp use so I doubt he would lie about his body weight. Not like 209 is particulary big anyway (well, I mean it is when you're that conditioned, but not out of the realms of reality for someone using steroids for 5 years, in fact rather standard I would say).
Towards his death he reached about 220lbs, after getting on hgh and upping his trenbolone dose. But his body fat was higher from excessive partying in thailand.
This is him posing with some shemales just before his death:-
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220lbs or thereabouts I can believe.
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Why dont you show us instead of keep waffling on how magnificent you are?
here, the 49yr old incredibly insecure man with no friends or social skills, twists words and flat out makes up lies, in order to promote his trolling... again.
find me where I've 'waffled on how magnificent i am'... ever.
won't find it.
however, what you will find, is you and your little bandwagon of equally socially inept internet 'friends', saying i said this, or i said that, and repeating it like a broken record, in hopes that somebody will believe it's true.
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here, the 49yr old incredibly insecure man with no friends or social skills, twists words and flat out makes up lies, in order to promote his trolling... again.
find me where I've 'waffled on how magnificent i am'... ever.
won't find it.
however, what you will find, is you and your little bandwagon of equally socially inept internet 'friends', saying i said this, or i said that, and repeating it like a broken record, in hopes that somebody will believe it's true.
Still not got the bottle to post a current picture?
PS you did claim not three posts ago that half your back buried zyzz.
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Still not got the bottle to post a current picture?
PS you did claim not three posts ago that half your back buried zyzz.
1/2 my back is wider than his entire torso... that's my back at 230.. so no way is he 220lbs... if he is.. 220lbs of what? abs and pecs? because it sure as hell wasn't any lats, teres maj, teres min, traps, rhomboids, rear delts or errectors.
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1/2 my back is wider than his entire torso... that's my back at 230.. so no way is he 220lbs... if he is.. 220lbs of what? abs and pecs? because it sure as hell wasn't any lats, teres maj, teres min, traps, rhomboids, rear delts or errectors.
So you keep saying.
Post a pic now or diet down to his BF levels.
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So you keep saying.
Post a pic now or diet down to his BF levels.
lol.. or what? you'll continue to troll me like a 12yr old girl?
and diet down to what? 7%? ohhhh boy..that's a challenge... yikes.. I gotta diet for 2 weeks?
and to what? prove you wrong? dude.. you're a clown. grown man who acts like a little girl. fucking drama queen. and you're bisexual? that's not surprising.. you seem like a dude who's had dicks in his mouth. you act like it.
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lol.. or what? you'll continue to troll me like a 12yr old girl?
and diet down to what? 7%? ohhhh boy..that's a challenge... yikes.. I gotta diet for 2 weeks?
and to what? prove you wrong? dude.. you're a clown. grown man who acts like a little girl. fucking drama queen. and you're bisexual? that's not surprising.. you seem like a dude who's had dicks in his mouth. you act like it.
So you are 2 weeks away from 7%
You dont have to diet at all, just post a pic and shut me up
You are 15% at best.
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How much longer til ESFitness crowbars into this conversation how much of a badass streetfighter he is like all the other threads?
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How much longer til ESFitness crowbars into this conversation how much of a badass streetfighter he is like all the other threads?
he doesn't take kindly to disrespect, not here not...etc...etc...
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Saying "i am 2 weeks out from 7%" is relative.
Everybody can say stuff.
A 20% guy too, he would be a certain amount of weeks out of contest shape.
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Saying "i am 2 weeks out from 7%" is relative.
Everybody can say stuff.
A 20% guy too, he would be a certain amount of weeks out of contest shape.
Guys full of shit, hes a test bloated mess.
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Guys full of shit, hes a test bloated mess.
lol.. based on what?
what am I on now? what have I been on for the past month?
you're a 50 year old child, dude. and it's sad you don't see that.
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lol.. based on what?
what am I on now? what have I been on for the past month?
you're a 50 year old child, dude. and it's sad you don't see that.
Your last baseball shirted photograph.
Post a pic or fuck off pussy.
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lol.. based on what?
what am I on now? what have I been on for the past month?
you're a 50 year old child, dude. and it's sad you don't see that.
Did you really once say that 6gms is the sweet spot?
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Did you really once say that 6gms is the sweet spot?
that and more.
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Did you really once say that 6gms is the sweet spot?
of course.
put it in context of what I was talking about.
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of course.
put it in context of what I was talking about.
Really, there is no "context" where a statement like that makes sense.
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Your last baseball shirted photograph.
Post a pic or fuck off pussy.
lol...
"post a pic.. post a pic... post a pic"
dude, you should really try watching something other than Tivo'd episodes of Glee and Mean Girls. the drama-queen shtick is painfully pathetic for a grown man.
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lol...
"post a pic.. post a pic... post a pic"
dude, you should really try watching something other than Tivo'd episodes of Glee and Mean Girls. the drama-queen shtick is painfully pathetic for a grown man.
What was your BF% here?
(http://s8.postimg.org/z7bosv8g5/esftool.jpg)
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What was your BF% here?
(http://s8.postimg.org/z7bosv8g5/esftool.jpg)
delts look funny
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Really, there is no "context" where a statement like that makes sense.
here you go you little punk bitch.
gotta suck to be a 49yr old man whos entire self-worth is based on the opinions of people in the internet... not to mention, waking up in the morning and looking at yourself in the mirror knowing that I would seriously, not metaphorically, slap the piss out of you until you cried like you did the first time you got molested by your uncle.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=502785.225
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here you go you little punk bitch.
gotta suck to be a 49yr old man whos entire self-worth is based on the opinions of people in the internet... not to mention, waking up in the morning and looking at yourself in the mirror knowing that I would seriously, not metaphorically, slap the piss out of you until you cried like you did the first time you got molested by your uncle.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=502785.225
hahaha...running around the forum to find a post to try and make me look bad.
Jeez.....post a pic or get the fuck off the forum.
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hahaha...running around the forum to find a post to try and make me look bad.
Jeez.....post a pic or get the fuck off the forum.
was a pretty easy search. took me all of about 35 seconds inbetween bits of my pasta.
"get the fuck off the forum"
lol.... dude, you're a bitch. grown man drama queen. no wonder you've had dicks in your mouth. you're like getbig's Perez Hilton.
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Really, there is no "context" where a statement like that makes sense.
IFBB Pros yeah.
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was a pretty easy search. took me all of about 35 seconds inbetween bits of my pasta.
"get the fuck off the forum"
lol.... dude, you're a bitch. grown man drama queen. no wonder you've had dicks in your mouth. you're like getbig's Perez Hilton.
It will make you hold water, switch to rice.
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It will make you hold water, switch to rice.
what the fuck do I care about water?
don't confuse me with your nancy-boy twink buddies who wish to stay lean and hard and dehydrated 365 days a year to impress a bunch of nobodies.
"yea dude, I'm the most ripped guy in the gym again today! awesome bro!"
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what the fuck do I care about water?
don't confuse me with your nancy-boy twink buddies who wish to stay lean and hard and dehydrated 365 days a year to impress a bunch of nobodies.
"yea dude, I'm the most ripped guy in the gym again today! awesome bro!"
said ESFitness never.
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So.... zyzz made some youtube vids, trolled some girls, , and started some obnoxious and gay trends in a gym subculture.
Yeah, totally comparable to Ahnooollld.
Young insecure twinks adored him liked because they felt like they too could take steroids, lift weights, put on a fake personality and become popular and maybe get laid and overcome beta-ness. Except that deep down, theyre still beta as fuck, and no amount of roids or lifting is going to give them the confidence or extrovert personality they saw in zyzz and wajted for themselves.
In conclusion - zyzz = generation nothingness youtube star, where dumbass kids think that a guy grtting some views on the interwebz is somehow an influential worldwide sensation comparable to the KING, who was actually broadcast on national television and in blockbuster movies showing of his muscles and alphaness to BILLIONS of people over 3 decades.
Yeah, sorry, zyzzs few youtube views and one liners aint shit compared to Arnold, and anyone who thinks their influence is comparable is a generation nothingness moron who greatly over exaggerates the importance of these 'internet somebodies'
Hey my man, I think you're maybe UNDERestimating how well known he really is. All of my close friends would know who Zyzz is and most don't even lift. Misc is a huge forum and he got a lot of publicity after his death and the controversy around it
But of course you can't compare him to The Oak ffs scooby is a retard
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Hey my man, I think you're maybe UNDERestimating how well known he really is. All of my close friends would know who Zyzz is and most don't even lift. Misc is a huge forum and he got a lot of publicity after his death and the controversy around it
But of course you can't compare him to The Oak ffs scooby is a retard
Yes, but I think your demographics are a little different than our bro.
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I can recall about 5x when I've mentioned this dude's name to people in the gym in the past couple years... not a single person knew who the fuck he was. (thankfully)
even the guys who actually follow bbing and attend expos don't know who the fuck this eye-liner wearing, purse carrying anorexic punk is... was.
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what the fuck do I care about water?
don't confuse me with your nancy-boy twink buddies who wish to stay lean and hard and dehydrated 365 days a year to impress a bunch of nobodies.
"yea dude, I'm the most ripped guy in the gym again today! awesome bro!"
Oh....Fat Guy.
Why didnt you just say so , would have saved a lot of time '
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Oh....Fat Guy.
Why didnt you just say so , would have saved a lot of time '
far from fat as well..
pay attention.
big difference between eating what I want, when I want and maintaining an easy 10%, than starving myself and worrying about holding an extra 5lbs of water because somebody might see me and think I'm fat....
I'm not some insecure old man still dieting hard to impress people who don't give a shit, just to look in the mirror and tell myself "yea, they all think I'm fucking ripped.. they wish they could be me".
if I want to be 'ripped', i'll cut my water and carbs for a day and drop 10lbs. big fucking deal.
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lol
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far from fat as well..
pay attention.
big difference between eating what I want, when I want and maintaining an easy 10%, than starving myself and worrying about holding an extra 5lbs of water because somebody might see me and think I'm fat....
I'm not some insecure old man still dieting hard to impress people who don't give a shit, just to look in the mirror and tell myself "yea, they all think I'm fucking ripped.. they wish they could be me".
if I want to be 'ripped', i'll cut my water and carbs for a day and drop 10lbs. big fucking deal.
10%
LOL
dude, just stop. I've SEEN your picture. Seriously are you fucking mental ?
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far from fat as well..
pay attention.
big difference between eating what I want, when I want and maintaining an easy 10%, than starving myself and worrying about holding an extra 5lbs of water because somebody might see me and think I'm fat....
I'm not some insecure old man still dieting hard to impress people who don't give a shit, just to look in the mirror and tell myself "yea, they all think I'm fucking ripped.. they wish they could be me".
if I want to be 'ripped', i'll cut my water and carbs for a day and drop 10lbs. big fucking deal.
10%
LOL
dude, just stop. I've SEEN your picture. Seriously are you fucking mental ?
seen my picture eh? and you can obviously see through my shirts to, I suppose.. right?
you'd think that somebody with your years and years of bodybuilding and steroid expertise could tell the difference between what's water and what's fat...
guess not.
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Why everyone attacking ESFitness lately lol. Guys dodging arrows from all directions on here
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Why everyone attacking ESFitness lately lol. Guys dodging arrows from all directions on here
weak-minded followers stick together and jump on bandwagons.
strength in numbers.
remember high school?
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weak-minded followers stick together and jump on bandwagons.
strength in numbers.
remember high school?
I follow nobody.
I think you're alright, not that you give a shit.
but there's no way in hell you're 10%
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seen my picture eh? and you can obviously see through my shirts to, I suppose.. right?
you'd think that somebody with your years and years of bodybuilding and steroid expertise could tell the difference between what's water and what's fat...
guess not.
We can see your arms, there's not a fucking vein in sight.
Thats why you wont take the top off, you are as fat as fuck.
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We can see your arms, there's not a fucking vein in sight.
Thats why you wont take the top off, you are as fat as fuck.
lol @ I'm fat as fuck.
dude, nothing worse than a bitter, old, gay midget who's angry at the world.
FYI.. I don't have vascularity in my biceps or tops of forearms.. triceps and lil bit of inner forearms, that's about it in arms.
judging by your posts, I'd guess you have a fairly long history with stimulant abuse.. maybe trying to cope with suppressed childhood trauma. meth use is pretty common in your "community", and going by the fact there's only 3-4hours a day when you don't post here, you being a bitter, angry, gay, meth addict, isn't a stretch.
were you raped as a child? molested? maybe you should take a break from message boards for a while (again.. remember when UKJeffy took his purse and ran away the first time?).. maybe get some counseling and coping skills, before you die of a heart attack or overdose at age 51. you may even meet some friends in rehab, and learn some social skills.
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Is this thread a joke? Zyzz?