Author Topic: Obama warns Coast Guard cadets global warming a national security ‘threat’  (Read 3889 times)

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It will be hard to convince me or any other reasonably intelligent person that the earth being a degree or fraction of a degree hotter in another million years or so is a bigger threat than terrorism and quite a few other pressing problems. The earth has long had droughts, famines, hurricanes, etc, etc. They didn't just start once we started pulling fossil fuels out of the ground.

It will be hard to convince us that it's all our fault, or that we can do anything about it. Especially when those who tell us this are flying around in private jets, owning fleets of limos and high-powered sports cars and luxury cars, living in mansions, using more than their share of conventional fuel and electricity, etc.

It's all a big front for carbon taxation and alt energy interests.

You got the timeline wrong though, it's in the next 100 years, that isn't accounting for the permafrost melt that will accelerate that beyond belief. it's a couple degrees by the end of this century, recent reports were not good, we are on worst case scenario trajectory.

Just stating the facts will help, it's happening, we are driving it (carbon has never risen this sharply, ice cores, tree rings, oceanography confirm this). We are simultaneously increasing the source (fossil fuels) and reducing consumers of carbon (trees etc, massive deforestorization). It's a huge potential and current issue, then we find a solution. One that is sensible, logical and implemented in a controlled manner.


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Yeah, the leaders are political appointees. And under this president they either tow the line or are out of a job.

It is frightening that anyone elected president of the US would be so irresponsible as to ignore daily security briefings and refuse to listen to good advice from high ranking military officials simply because they tell him what he doesn't want to hear.

Completely agree.  We are lucky he hasn't had to deal with bigger crises closer to home. 

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Completely agree.  We are lucky he hasn't had to deal with bigger crises closer to home.  

Name the political appointees

http://www.cna.org/sites/default/files/MAB_2014.pdf

of course you won't even try because when you fail then it will that much harder to you to hold on to your imaginary premise

BTW - this board is still mostly a right echo chamber and most of the right wingers just fold or just disappear when challenged (not all but most)

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You're missing the "news"!

http://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation
you notice I'm not defending msnbc like you defend fox lol,not really too hard to see you get your daily news from fox lol




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Hahahahahaha...

tell us precisely what parts of the rebuttal you're laughing at

are you aware that your "source"

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The Heartland Institute is the primary American supporter of climate change denial.[2][3][4] It regularly rejects the scientific consensus that global warming poses a significant danger to the planet[5] and that human activity is driving it,[6] and claims that policies to fight it would be damaging to the economy.[7]

but please ignore that and just tell us what part of the two detailed rebuttals that you disagree with and why

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Coach proving his stupidity once again.

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tell us precisely what parts of the rebuttal you're laughing at

are you aware that your "source"

but please ignore that and just tell us what part of the two detailed rebuttals that you disagree with and why

Coach is a sad fuck, no point in arguing with him. Blame his parents for telling him he is smart enough to debate politics.





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