Author Topic: 2012 Olympia - The Mr. Olympia scorecard (Read 10838 times)

crownshep · « **on:** September 30, 2012, 04:16:16 AM »

Edit: This is the correct scorecard as we had. Not sure what the other is.

Thought that branch was announced in 5th and wolf 6th,well not according to the scorecard. And i thought Phil won by 1 point,.... well not according to the scorecard.

Frank Clairmonte · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2012, 05:24:25 AM »

according to scorecard, banch is 6, wolf 5

interesting.

MB · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:45:35 AM »

Maybe Bob screwed up the announcement. Let's hope Chick doesn't get canned over this.

ukjeff · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:46:32 AM »

Who automatically qualifies for next year, is it top five or top six?

MB · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:48:02 AM »

Quote from: crownshep on September 30, 2012, 04:16:16 AM

Thought that branch was announced in 5th and wolf 6th,well not according to the scorecard.And i thought Phil won by 1 point,....well not according to the scorecard.This scorecard is from NPcnewsonline.com

It looks like there were 7 judges scoring and Phil received straight firsts in both rounds for a total of 14. Kai received straight seconds for a total of 28.

ukjeff · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:54:18 AM »

the "Phil won by one point" was a joke by Bob Chic, he said "there was one point in it", then said "in the 212 class between 4th and 5th"

abijahmaniaco · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:56:34 AM »

Quote from: ukjeff on September 30, 2012, 06:46:32 AM

Who automatically qualifies for next year, is it top five or top six?

yeah, they said only the top four the first night. then they said top five last night.

240 is Back · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:58:00 AM »

wow, phil won every pose. interesting.

ukjeff · « **Reply #8 on:** September 30, 2012, 06:58:44 AM »

so its a way to get Branch a full years training for the Olympia, to get over his huge adversity and all.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2012, 07:09:59 AM »

Quote from: MB on September 30, 2012, 06:48:02 AM

It looks like there were 7 judges scoring and Phil received straight firsts in both rounds for a total of 14. Kai received straight seconds for a total of 28.

He didn't get straight firsts if that were the case his final score would have been 10 and Kai would have been a 20

MB · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2012, 07:21:47 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on September 30, 2012, 07:09:59 AM

He didn't get straight firsts if that were the case his final score would have been 10 and Kai would have been a 20

Traditionally, there are 5 judges scoring and you're right 10 pts for straight firsts and 20 for straight seconds. But, look at Kai's score of 28. If there were only 5 judges scoring, then several judges scored Kai in 3rd or even 4th place. I think they took the score of 7 judges this time, for whatever reason, and Phil was straight firsts, Kai straight seconds.

MB · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2012, 07:32:40 AM »

Nice heading row, who was the genius who couldn't figure out the "shrink to fit" option on excel.

MB · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2012, 07:44:16 AM »

Quote from: Shockwave on September 30, 2012, 07:40:47 AM

Looks like someone gave Bob the wrong results, or Bob screwed up the call.

SF1900 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2012, 07:48:06 AM »

They realized the schmoes would disapprove that a bear like Branch came in 6th, so they placed him in 5th.

Conker · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2012, 08:44:35 AM »

Quote from: MB on September 30, 2012, 07:21:47 AM

Traditionally, there are 5 judges scoring and you're right 10 pts for straight firsts and 20 for straight seconds. But, look at Kai's score of 28. If there were only 5 judges scoring, then several judges scored Kai in 3rd or even 4th place. I think they took the score of 7 judges this time, for whatever reason, and Phil was straight firsts, Kai straight seconds.

think you're right there because scores for all places(2nd, 3rd, 4th etc) all look far higher than previous years.

crownshep · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2012, 08:57:50 AM »

Quote from: MB on September 30, 2012, 06:48:02 AM

It looks like there were 7 judges scoring and Phil received straight firsts in both rounds for a total of 14. Kai received straight seconds for a total of 28.

And the whole"only 1 point in it" bullshit is just to make the crowd think it could have gone either way but Phils the champ and you have to beat the champ.But like its been said Phil must have won 1sts from every judge,and theres no way Phil wins the majority of the comparison poses.

Shockwave · « **Reply #16 on:** September 30, 2012, 09:00:30 AM »

Quote from: crownshep on September 30, 2012, 08:57:50 AM

And the whole"only 1 point in it" bullshit is just to make the crowd think it could have gone either way but Phils the champ and you have to beat the champ.But like its been said Phil must have won 1sts from every judge,and theres no way Phil wins the majority of the comparison poses.

The 1 point thing was a jest, 5 seconds later he said "In the 212 between 5th and 6th"

deceiver · « **Reply #17 on:** September 30, 2012, 09:05:16 AM »

Seriously, what the fuck. I expect someone in the know to comment on this matter ASAP.

crownshep · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2012, 09:07:38 AM »

What was the difference in money prize between 5th and 6th,cause Dennis must have lost a few grand.

Ron · « **Reply #19 on:** September 30, 2012, 09:35:51 AM »

This is the correct scorecard. First place gets 5 judges votes. There are usually 11 or 13 judges at the Olympia. Each judge individually scores on what they think, then you deduct the 3 or 4 highest placings, and the 3 or four lowest placings, and keep the middle five average.

Hence (based on 11 judges), if Kai got three #1 votes, and eight #2 votes, he still will only get 10 points (middle average).

Likewise, if three judges put Phil Heath in 3rd place, and eight judges put him in first, he still gets the 5 points.

I have no idea what that other scorecard was, 14 points? 28 points? Bob Chick read the scorecard that I had.

_bruce_ · « **Reply #20 on:** September 30, 2012, 09:38:36 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on September 30, 2012, 07:48:06 AM

They realized the schmoes would disapprove that a bear like Branch came in 6th, so they placed him in 5th.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #21 on:** September 30, 2012, 09:39:31 AM »

Quote from: Ron on September 30, 2012, 09:35:51 AM

That isnt the scorecard -

Interesting , I'm surprised it wasn't close , Phil won again with a perfect score I thought it was very close.

MB · « **Reply #22 on:** September 30, 2012, 09:50:40 AM »

Quote from: Ron on September 30, 2012, 09:35:51 AM

This is the correct scorecard. First place gets 5 judges votes. There are usually 11 or 13 judges at the Olympia. Each judge individually scores on what they think, then you deduct the 3 or 4 highest placings, and the 3 or four lowest placings, and keep the middle five average.

Hence (based on 11 judges), if Kai got three #1 votes, and eight #2 votes, he still will only get 10 points (middle average).

Likewise, if three judges put Phil Heath in 3rd place, and eight judges put him in first, he still gets the 5 points.

I have no idea what that other scorecard was, 14 points? 28 points? Bob Chick read the scorecard that I had.

This looks like the correct one. Where did the bogus scorecard come from?

Secret Stack · « **Reply #23 on:** September 30, 2012, 10:02:16 AM »

Quote from: Ron on September 30, 2012, 09:35:51 AM

This is the correct scorecard. First place gets 5 judges votes. There are usually 11 or 13 judges at the Olympia. Each judge individually scores on what they think, then you deduct the 3 or 4 highest placings, and the 3 or four lowest placings, and keep the middle five average.

Hence (based on 11 judges), if Kai got three #1 votes, and eight #2 votes, he still will only get 10 points (middle average).

Likewise, if three judges put Phil Heath in 3rd place, and eight judges put him in first, he still gets the 5 points.

I have no idea what that other scorecard was, 14 points? 28 points? Bob Chick read the scorecard that I had.

ron, i dont want to get out of line here, i am simply stating the facts, but the npconline news website were the ones that originally posted the scorecard with wolf in 5th and branch in 6th. it was in this link here that this scorecard could be found. JUST NOW, the same link has JUST been edited to show an updated scorecard that makes branch 5th and wolf 6th:

http://npcnewsonline.com/2012-mr-olympia-final-results/33833/

crownshep · « **Reply #24 on:** September 30, 2012, 10:27:25 AM »

Like the previous comments have mentioned,the scorecard i posted is from the NPC website.It was posted on facebook by Andy Coulson,EFBB judge and dorians training partner.Things that make you hhmmmm.