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Turns out the self-proclaimed "greatest" - despite having never competed in an IFBB show - might not be so great after all.
In this month's MD, Ben White announces that he refuses to accept JoJ's 3-lift challenge. White declares that squats and deadlifts are too dangerous.
Remember that Ben challenged JoJ to a strength competition, claiming he was the strongest bodybuilder in the world. As they're both Muscletech athletes, JoJ accepted.
Im disappointed in Ben White. He's supposedly "The Greatest", but he's never done a pro show. He's supposedly "The Strongest Bodybuilder in the World", yet he refuses to do 2 of the 3 main bodybuilding/powerlifting lifts. I'm beginning to think the only thing Ben White is good at, is telling everyone how great he is, without backing it up.
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Johnnie Jackson is a man who can lift heavy ass weights.
(http://www.vaporexperience.com/images/ATH_JoJack_bicep.gif)
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Turns out the self-proclaimed "greatest" - despite having never competed in an IFBB show - might not be so great after all.
In this month's MD, Ben White announces that he refuses to accept JoJ's 3-lift challenge. White declares that squats and deadlifts are too dangerous.
Remember that Ben challenged JoJ to a strength competition, claiming he was the strongest bodybuilder in the world. As they're both Muscletech athletes, JoJ accepted.
Im disappointed in Ben White. He's supposedly "The Greatest", but he's never done a pro show. He's supposedly "The Strongest Bodybuilder in the World", yet he refuses to do 2 of the 3 main bodybuilding/powerlifting lifts. I'm beginning to think the only thing Ben White is good at, is telling everyone how great he is, without backing it up.
he's the typical arrogant bench and arm work only "bodybuilder" who wouldn't squat or deadlift to save his life, you should have heard him rambling on and on in his MD training clip about how he'd destroy JOJ and all the guy did was 4 sets of flat benches with the heaviest set being 315 for 10 and then 2 hours of machine work, he's a phony.
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I remember first reading about Ben White and thinking what an arrogant asshole he was. Saying he was the greatest, that he has the potential to beat ronnies streak and that hes stronger than JOJ. What a pussy to talk SO much shit and back down :)
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Turns out the self-proclaimed "greatest" - despite having never competed in an IFBB show - might not be so great after all.
In this month's MD, Ben White announces that he refuses to accept JoJ's 3-lift challenge. White declares that squats and deadlifts are too dangerous.
Remember that Ben challenged JoJ to a strength competition, claiming he was the strongest bodybuilder in the world. As they're both Muscletech athletes, JoJ accepted.
Im disappointed in Ben White. He's supposedly "The Greatest", but he's never done a pro show. He's supposedly "The Strongest Bodybuilder in the World", yet he refuses to do 2 of the 3 main bodybuilding/powerlifting lifts. I'm beginning to think the only thing Ben White is good at, is telling everyone how great he is, without backing it up.
All Musclecrap hype.
Kid will have a rude awakening in the IFBB! Ben ran his mouth in MD and that shit does not fly with the vets. Watch out Ben, New York Pro is no USA's.
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I remember first reading about Ben White and thinking what an arrogant asshole he was. Saying he was the greatest, that he has the potential to beat ronnies streak and that hes stronger than JOJ. What a pussy to talk SO much shit and back down :)
he's truly ALL TALK if i've ever seen it, take a look at his chest training clip on MD, it's the most pathetic thing you'll ever see, the guy is smooth and small as the day is long and he makes all kinds of claims of what he's going to do and then calls it a day on the flat bench with 315. ::)
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they both suck.
jj would be killed by a strong lifter like jay cutler.
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JOJ is the strongest man alive
he does upright rows with 315 lbs for 12 reps ::)
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(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/1419/medium/Ben-White.jpg)
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JOJ is the strongest man alive
he does upright rows with 315 lbs for 12 reps ::)
his claims are complete horseshit as well but having seen both of them on video JOJ seems like a very nice humble guy and Ben White just seems liek an arrogant, pompous, insecure asshole who really ain't all that big.
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he's truly ALL TALK if i've ever seen it, take a look at his chest training clip on MD, it's the most pathetic thing you'll ever see, the guy is smooth and small as the day is long and he makes all kinds of claims of what he's going to do and then calls it a day on the flat bench with 315. ::)
If you saw what his back workout was in MD, you would laugh. No really hardcore movements, and a lot of cables! And in the article he says he doesn't need deadlifts (forgot the reason he gave). It just does not make sense to claim you are stronger than JOJ and you don't even deadlift ::)
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joj isnt humble didnt he think he was stronger than coleman?
he's a weak ass pussy
it's a good thing for him coleman and cutler dont destroy him and that he only gets to train with pussies like branch warren
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Meh. What about a calf workout challenge. Can't see anyone losing to JOJ, there.
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Meh. What about a calf workout challenge. Can't see anyone losing to JOJ, there.
yes these challenges need to change and stop being bout pussy lifts and start being about real lifts like donkey raises, triceps kickbacks and curls with the e-z- bar
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his claims are complete horseshit as well but having seen both of them on video JOJ seems like a very nice humble guy and Ben White just seems liek an arrogant, pompous, insecure asshole who really ain't all that big.
I agree that in the muscletech ads, Ben White doesn't look like a pro at all
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I agree that in the muscletech ads, Ben White doesn't look like a pro at all
he's gonna have a rude awakening when he gets on a pro stage and sees the back thickness and leg size of some of his competitors and i'll gaurantee you he'll learn some humility.
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he's truly ALL TALK if i've ever seen it, take a look at his chest training clip on MD, it's the most pathetic thing you'll ever see, the guy is smooth and small as the day is long and he makes all kinds of claims of what he's going to do and then calls it a day on the flat bench with 315. ::)
In the latest MD, he says he's worked his way back up to 4 sets of 10, with 405 pounds.
That's very strong - but lots of pros use that weight for reps. It's nothing special.
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In the latest MD, he says he's worked his way back up to 4 sets of 10, with 405 pounds.
That's very strong - but lots of pros use that weight for reps. It's nothing special.
hahahhaa, yeah 405 for 10 is "nothing special", ok "livewire".
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hahahhaa, yeah 405 for 10 is "nothing special", ok "livewire".
That is his claim. 405 x 10.
When the cameras are rolling, he can only do 315.
As you know, they usually bulllshiit their lift claims. So 405x10 is probably a stretch. And for many top NPC or pro bodybuilders, and many powerlifters, 405 x 10 is good but not great.
So at the BEST, his exaggerated claims are average by top bodybuilder standards?
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joj isnt humble didnt he think he was stronger than coleman?
he's a weak ass pussy
it's a good thing for him coleman and cutler dont destroy him and that he only gets to train with pussies like branch warren
Actually your dead wrong. In one article he said he worked out with coleman and coleman warmed up with johnny's max (150) on inclined dumbell press. And putting cutlers name aside with colemans when talking about lifting not just throws your credibility down the toilet but shows you know jack about bodybuilding, Jay has never been known for being strong.
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That is his claim. 405 x 10.
When the cameras are rolling, he can only do 315.
As you know, they usually bulllshiit their lift claims. So 405x10 is probably a stretch. And for many top NPC or pro bodybuilders, and many powerlifters, 405 x 10 is good but not great.
So at the BEST, his exaggerated claims are average by top bodybuilder standards?
405 for 10 reps on barbell flat bench is awesome for anyone not named Mendelson or Kennelly don't kid yourself, you've been reading too much Flex magazine and watching too many fake lifting clips on youtube. ::)
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405 for 10 reps on barbell flat bench is awesome for anyone not named Mendelson or Kennelly don't kid yourself, you've been reading too much Flex magazine and watching too many fake lifting clips on youtube. ::)
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Since We all know Ben White bullshits abuot everything else ("I'll win 9 Olympias!")
and since when he DID train, it was 315x10...
Why in the world would anyone believe he can even do 405x10?
I mean, it's a tremendous jump, to go from 315x10, up to 405x10... he claims to have done it in one month.
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Actually your dead wrong. In one article he said he worked out with coleman and coleman warmed up with johnny's max (150) on inclined dumbell press. And putting cutlers name aside with colemans when talking about lifting not just throws your credibility down the toilet but shows you know jack about bodybuilding, Jay has never been known for being strong.
jay is strong like a bull. watch him in jay to the z and he dont use no pussy ass wraps etc like coleman
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he's the typical arrogant bench and arm work only "bodybuilder" who wouldn't squat or deadlift to save his life, you should have heard him rambling on and on in his MD training clip about how he'd destroy JOJ and all the guy did was 4 sets of flat benches with the heaviest set being 315 for 10 and then 2 hours of machine work, he's a phony.
Yes I watched this clip an hour ago he claims he can bench 315 for 30 and 405 for 20 ahhaahhaahha......howeve r when he does 315 in the clip he can only do it for 12 or so.......brutal self ownage!
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is ben white the next king kamalli?
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I saw a video of Ben White at MD web site, he was bench pressing and he did 3 plate's each side for 15 reps, he's like; "As you can see these are all free weights, no machine's, strict form you can see I go al lthe way down and not bounce it"
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I saw a video of Ben White at MD web site, he was bench pressing and he did 3 plate's each side for 15 reps, he's like; "As you can see these are all free weights, no machine's, strict form you can see I go al lthe way down and not bounce it"
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I can't understand how he possibly went from 315 pounds for 15 reps - up to 405 pounds for 10 reps - almost overnight.
He wrote it in this month's MD - so it's at least a month old - that he does 405 x 10.
Last month, he did the 315 x 15 reps on flat bench.
Somehow he magically added 90 pounds to his working set, overnight. Is he being misleading about using 405?
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I can't understand how he possibly went from 315 pounds for 15 reps - up to 405 pounds for 10 reps - almost overnight.
He wrote it in this month's MD - so it's at least a month old - that he does 405 x 10.
Last month, he did the 315 x 15 reps on flat bench.
Somehow he magically added 90 pounds to his working set, overnight. Is he being misleading about using 405?
That 315 for 15 reps were VERY easy looking... he didn't even do it with focuse, just easy steady reps... I can think he does 405 for 10 hard reps... but his form is VERY good!
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his claims are complete horseshit as well but having seen both of them on video JOJ seems like a very nice humble guy and Ben White just seems liek an arrogant, pompous, insecure asshole who really ain't all that big.
i told you guys last year, after the nats (06)i went to eat with some people and we ended up at the same place that white and his party were at. he was acting like a dick with the wait staff. chick was there as well as heath, rambod (telling heath what to eat), j. freeman (one of the biggest humans ive ever seen) and a few others. he was a diiiiiiiick!
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As they're both Muscletech athletes, JoJ accepted.
What does that have to do with anything?
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they both suck.
jj would be killed by a strong lifter like jay cutler.
Ben White, should have kept his mouth silent, and then challenged JOJ after he did well in contest...make a name by having the physique and the strength to back it up. Then talk shit. Because all he is known for now is, shit talking, a heavily detailed back, and bitch tits.
All I know is Ben White had more detail in his back than Jay could ever wish for...
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Johnnie Jackson is a weak pussy and isnt strong. ::) LOL! Ya ok. Do you forget hes ALSO a powerlifter? Jackson doesnt have the same size as Coleman, and Coleman may be stronger than jackson in a few lifts, but for the most part I believe Jackson can easily hang in there with coleman. Same with Cutler. I forget what magazine it was, but i remember reading Cutler saying that hes trained with Coleman before, and said he didnt go as heavy as Coleman did but still hung in there with him.
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I really wanted Ben to destroy JOJ :(
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I can't understand how he possibly went from 315 pounds for 15 reps - up to 405 pounds for 10 reps - almost overnight.
He wrote it in this month's MD - so it's at least a month old - that he does 405 x 10.
Last month, he did the 315 x 15 reps on flat bench.
Somehow he magically added 90 pounds to his working set, overnight. Is he being misleading about using 405?
I know Ben, he is a cock, but I have never seen anyone stronger on the bench in person. I think his best was 505 for 10 reps. He used to train at Albany Strength, a powerlifting gym in Albany. They have a website, and there are clips of him doing some sick stuff. He dicks around on his chest workout because he is already so thick from the years of heavy benching.
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Johnny is clearly stronger all around.I think he totaled 2135 or so in a full meet.However,lets not minimize Ben's benching ability.I was there when he benched 700 for the first time.He did it in a single ply Inzer shirt,the same one Johnny used to bench in the low to mid 500s[I was also at that meet].So Ben can bench,no doubt.However,if your going to say "I'm the strongest",then you should at least step up and be ready to squat and pull.
Until Ben out totales Johnny,which doesn't look like will happen,then he is not stronger.
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Johnny is clearly stronger all around.I think he totaled 2135 or so in a full meet.However,lets not minimize Ben's benching ability.I was there when he benched 700 for the first time.He did it in a single ply Inzer shirt,the same one Johnny used to bench in the low to mid 500s[I was also at that meet].So Ben can bench,no doubt.However,if your going to say "I'm the strongest",then you should at least step up and be ready to squat and pull.
Until Ben out totales Johnny,which doesn't look like will happen,then he is not stronger.
I've asked this in another thread, but what's the point of a powerlifting total using a suit/shirt? If the man can push 600 raw isn't that impressive on it's own.....why the need to lift with the shirt? So what if it brings the bench total to 700lbs? Either way the man is still pushing his max of 600. I don't get it....is the shirt awarded a prize as well?
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I really wanted Ben to destroy JOJ :(
well, now Ben White is backing down.
He refuses to do deadlifts or squats.
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I really wanted Ben to destroy JOJ :(
Ben White ::)
He may have 50lbs on JOJ in a raw bench, but he can't claim anything if he refuses to squat or dead. I can respect him not wanting to get hurt, but just cause he "may" have an edge on the bench doesn't mean a thing overall. Just another shittalkin bencher that quivers when he walks by a squat rack.
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I dont know why we have shirts.Why did pole vaulters go from bamboo poles to aluminum?Why did golf go from wood clubs to titanium?Why did tennis go to oversized rackets?Why do they allow swimmers to use super suits?Anything to increase performance.If there is an extra pound to be gained people will use it.Why do bodybuilders inject synthol into lagging bodyparts?Does the syringe get an award at the end of the show as well?
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I know Ben, he is a cock, but I have never seen anyone stronger on the bench in person. I think his best was 505 for 10 reps. He used to train at Albany Strength, a powerlifting gym in Albany. They have a website, and there are clips of him doing some sick stuff. He dicks around on his chest workout because he is already so thick from the years of heavy benching.
Link? Photos? Useless without either....
Not dissing you man, just want to see if this big mouth can back up some of his claims.
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What a bitch.
Ronnie and Johnny would squat him to a pulp! 8)
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joj chest is thick as hell, one of the thickest in the pros imo, not to big of a deal if he gets out benched a lil bit, he will own him on squats and deads...didn't he say he did 615 on squats like 17 times or something crazy
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Jonnie Jackson would fuck him up big time!
White should keep his mouth shut...him badell,q taylor and kamili should drink a big glass of shuthefuckup juice! this aint the wwf and will hopefully never be....we need humble healthy rolemodels, so since the health part aint gonna happend, lets get rid of the bastard who need a reality check!
peace
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Link? Photos? Useless without either....
Not dissing you man, just want to see if this big mouth can back up some of his claims.
http://www.albanystrength.com/BenchVideos.htm
he's got a 505x9 raw and then some shirted work. on the bench the dude would KILL ronnie and johnnie (sorry, JoJ might be able to rep 405 for a few and ronnie bounces 495x5). looks like he doesn't do much squatting or pulling, though.
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his claims are complete horseshit as well but having seen both of them on video JOJ seems like a very nice humble guy and Ben White just seems liek an arrogant, pompous, insecure asshole who really ain't all that big.
He did deadlift 800 lbs though.. That's not light feat.
His upperbody strength claims are bullshit. The 800 lb deadlift is not.
Ronnie was the strongest bodybuilder ever! 495 bench for 5!
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http://www.albanystrength.com/BenchVideos.htm
he's got a 505x9 raw and then some shirted work. on the bench the dude would KILL ronnie and johnnie (sorry, JoJ might be able to rep 405 for a few and ronnie bounces 495x5). looks like he doesn't do much squatting or pulling, though.
IT WASNT JUST THE BENCHPRESS.....ronnie and jonnie would KILL him in a squat, bench and deadlift challenge....why do you think he backed down dude?!
peace
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http://www.albanystrength.com/BenchVideos.htm
he's got a 505x9 raw and then some shirted work. on the bench the dude would KILL ronnie and johnnie (sorry, JoJ might be able to rep 405 for a few and ronnie bounces 495x5). looks like he doesn't do much squatting or pulling, though.
Shit, not bad, I am impressed. Now if he can shut that trap, he might be an ok pro!
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He slacks off during his chest workout on MD, but he can bench a fair amount. Here's a few shirted vids from bench meets.
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He slacks off during his chest workout on MD, but he can bench a fair amount. Here's a few shirted vids from bench meets.
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He bodybuilds now because he tested positive for DECA at a tested meet, and was banned for three years.
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i remember reading the ben white interveiw a couple of moths ago in MD, its was interesting he was talking shit about almost every pro out there saying that he will win 9 MR O's how he is the strongest man alive....
but i didn't hate it. it might actually be what this sport needs a bit more controversy. i'm sick of always hearing from pro's there is nothing i can do it's all up to the judges man the best man win.THATS HORSE SHIT, finally someone is saying that they will win that they are the best (i'm not saying that its true i really doubt ben will ever really amount to anything) but its still good to have some one say something different adn not the same old shit over and over again...
and no this is not a melt down just expressing my opinion
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def stronger than johnnie by far on bench..
and i think on the md he did say he as stronger on the bench than johnnie..
and he's def proove that..
still he is an arrogant guy....
benching 700lb and being a sucessful pro bb are 2 diff things...
that bench he did off his own strength ...
but u need judges to have an unbiased opinion of you.. to be sucessful
sean allen comes to mind
shooting your mouth off ...is not a wise move especially in a subjective sport like bbing where its people that make u win
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will ben white be the type of pro with 40 excuses why he was off, after he gets 6th at the NY PRO?
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Ben White = Kamali and flex wheeler combined. Bullshit claims with a tonne of excuses. Next thing we'll know is that he was attacked by ninjas ::)
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Johnnie Jackson is a weak pussy and isnt strong. ::) LOL! Ya ok. Do you forget hes ALSO a powerlifter? Jackson doesnt have the same size as Coleman, and Coleman may be stronger than jackson in a few lifts, but for the most part I believe Jackson can easily hang in there with coleman. Same with Cutler. I forget what magazine it was, but i remember reading Cutler saying that hes trained with Coleman before, and said he didnt go as heavy as Coleman did but still hung in there with him.
flex
they interview him while working out i think... in some part of the interview he shows off. and says that he has like a billion shoes 300000000000000000000000 0000000 watches and seven million hats... hahaha
still, in jays videos you can see he is actually really fucking strong, he is prov top 5 maybe 10 strongest bb in the world i think... and his wife spots him, and i dont think she helps him much
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Ben will wait a few years for JOJ to get older and then call him out again.
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Turns out the self-proclaimed "greatest" - despite having never competed in an IFBB show - might not be so great after all.
In this month's MD, Ben White announces that he refuses to accept JoJ's 3-lift challenge. White declares that squats and deadlifts are too dangerous.
Remember that Ben challenged JoJ to a strength competition, claiming he was the strongest bodybuilder in the world. As they're both Muscletech athletes, JoJ accepted.
Im disappointed in Ben White. He's supposedly "The Greatest", but he's never done a pro show. He's supposedly "The Strongest Bodybuilder in the World", yet he refuses to do 2 of the 3 main bodybuilding/powerlifting lifts. I'm beginning to think the only thing Ben White is good at, is telling everyone how great he is, without backing it up.
I really liked the way Ben White called JOJ out.
But what a fcuking pussy for backing out when JOJ stepped up.
Ben White will never recover - he'll be the bottom bitch forever.
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Ben White would crush JOJ in a bitch tit contest.
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I really liked the way Ben White called JOJ out.
But what a fcuking pussy for backing out when JOJ stepped up.
Ben White will never recover - he'll be the bottom bitch forever.
Yeah, before his first show, he's already backed down.
I don't see how he can save his name.
if you're going to talk trash, you need to back it up.
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anyone who thinks Jackson or Ben White can't move some serious weight is seriously mistaken and shold do some research, yea ben shouldn't have run his mouth but the fact remains the same the guy is one of the strongest out there
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anyone who thinks Jackson or Ben White can't move some serious weight is seriously mistaken and shold do some research, yea ben shouldn't have run his mouth but the fact remains the same the guy is one of the strongest out there
But he doesn't squat or deadlift.
There might be a guy who can calf raise 3000 pounds, but can't bench press 100.
Is he strong? Sure.
Should he run his mouth? No way.
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Who the fucks ben white, is this him
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True story...
Ben White was voted "most likely to NOT be a complete loser of Tom Tognelli proporitions" in his high school year book. But his life took a drastic turn and the opposite of what he was voted for in high school has now come true...
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Who the fucks ben white, is this him
Victor looking huge.
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As Ronnie Coleman said: Everybody want to be a bodybuilder, but don't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weight!
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Who the fucks ben white, is this him
Thats not Ben White, thats Victor Martinez.
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Let's not judge Ben too harshly guys. Who amoungst us hasn't gotten a little cocky or over confident and said things we didn't really mean when we were all jacked up on cell tech. It's pretty potent shit. How else do you think these guys got their gyno?
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Victor looks great here.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=196782.0;attach=229175;image)
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will ben white be the type of pro with 40 excuses why he was off, after he gets 6th at the NY PRO?
do you really think that he will place that high?
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Not sure where you guys get your information, but Ben White DID NOT back down and has stated, once again, on No Bull Radio / musculardevelopment.com that he STILL CHALLENGES Johnny Jackson to a RAW POWERLIFTING COMPETITION and to make it fair, he said both should do it during the summer when they are both in off season mode and can prepare fairly.
Whatever videos and pictures you guys posted above are NOT of Ben White, at least not the bodybuilder Ben White. This is the Ben White in question:
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_6997_WHJMGBGTOF.jpg)
So the challenge is still on, the ball is in Johnny Jackson's court to accept and stop having his lackey friends post on message boards bullshit rumors about Ben White.
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Someone should challenge Justin Harris to a powerlifting challenge! He is one of the strongest viable competitive bodybuilders (i.e., top amateur or pro) and has a 2,149 total:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/justinharrisprojectsuperheavyweightdvd.html
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/justinharrisinterview05122007.html
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SF,
Dude as much as i hate to admit it i sometimes agree when you call people out...but you called Ben White SMALL lol. Dude are you kidding. I was at the NY show he won over 2yrs ago and he was huge. Then he gained 20lbs on his competition weight. Dude is thick bro, trust me. Nobody is giving him a rude awakening anything....hes the real deal...maybe not the hardest trainer or smartest bodybuilder but has some serious genetics.....theres a youtube video of him benching 700
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ben white may have the biggest bitch tit i have ever seen. he should keep his shirt on
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Hw said that he DIDNīT back down.
The challenge is still up.
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Not sure where you guys get your information, but Ben White DID NOT back down and has stated, once again, on No Bull Radio / musculardevelopment.com that he STILL CHALLENGES Johnny Jackson to a RAW POWERLIFTING COMPETITION and to make it fair, he said both should do it during the summer when they are both in off season mode and can prepare fairly.
Whatever videos and pictures you guys posted above are NOT of Ben White, at least not the bodybuilder Ben White. This is the Ben White in question:
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/IMG_6997_WHJMGBGTOF.jpg)
So the challenge is still on, the ball is in Johnny Jackson's court to accept and stop having his lackey friends post on message boards bullshit rumors about Ben White.
ben white is about the stupidest looking pro on the circuit today with his melon sized forehead.
He adds to the stupidity whenever he opens his mouth.
the only lackey in this thread, is the one coming to ben's rescue
unless you are ben himself. In that case why are you such a little bitch that can't deadlift?
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ben white may have the biggest bitch tit i have ever seen. he should keep his shirt on
If he loses in New York (likely) can he still call his column the Greatest?
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This should be good. I will be at the NY Pro show and get to see first hand the look on Ben's face when he doesn't crack the top 5. :'(
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joj isnt humble didnt he think he was stronger than coleman?
he's a weak ass pussy
it's a good thing for him coleman and cutler dont destroy him and that he only gets to train with pussies like branch warren
I'd hardly call Jackson weak. He has an official deadlift of 804 in competition. I believe that was in 2004, held on the same weekend as the Orlando (Florida) Xtreme Pro show, won by Darrem Charles.
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they both suck.
jj would be killed by a strong lifter like jay cutler.
I heard you're stronger than JJ.... ;D
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Bluto, I bet you didn't get to Hug Jackson' nuts so you're questioning his strenght claims...hahaha