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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2009, 11:06:07 PM »
The most underrated (Roland Cziurlok):

1994 IFBB Grand Prix Italy 5th
1994 IFBB Olympia 18th
1994 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 5th
1994 IFBB Grand Prix France 5th
1995 IFBB Night Of The Champions 5th
1996 IFBB San Jose Pro 4th
1996 IFBB Arnold Classic And Internationals 7th
1996 IFBB Olympia 12th
1996 IFBB Grand Prix Spain 11th
1996 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 9th
1998 IFBB Arnold Classic And Internationals 10th
2000 IFBB Night Of The Champions 16th
2001 IFBB Toronto Pro 17th
2001 IFBB Night Of The Champions 18th

I remember him at the 1994 Mr. Olympia was it where he came out to AC/DC's Thunderstruck and jumped in the air and landed in the SPLITS position. He had great potential.

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2009, 12:25:01 AM »
I remember him at the 1994 Mr. Olympia was it where he came out to AC/DC's Thunderstruck and jumped in the air and landed in the SPLITS position. He had great potential.

Gunter was at that Olympia too at 24 years of age.

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2009, 12:37:58 AM »

gh15 was indeed underrated.... HAIL NIBIROU!!


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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2009, 12:43:01 AM »
whay happened to Roland and his competition days?
Awesome physique!

I heared he's a bum these days, no joke. Went to jail and now livin' under the bridge gettin' his meals at the social service. Life can be nasty.

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2009, 01:42:10 AM »
gh15 was indeed underrated.... HAIL NIBIROU!!



That's not Gunter.

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2009, 01:44:25 AM »
I think these guys might have taken steroids.

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2009, 01:57:36 AM »
I think these guys might have taken steroids.

Why the need to hate?  Hard work and training is 99.999999% of it.  $100,000 a year in drugs is more of a finishing touch really.

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2009, 02:50:00 AM »
Why the need to hate?  Hard work and training is 99.999999% of it.  $100,000 a year in drugs is more of a finishing touch really.

I'm suprised at how many people on here actually think gear is that expensive.

Not even the most abusing pro would spend more than let's say a couple of thousand dollars on aas/slin a year.

The basic and most used stuff is actually very cheap - test , dbol , deca etc. are just peanuts. slin might be 200 bucks a year if they are using it much.

The only expensive thing is the gh - might account for another 15.000 dollars a year if used much and throughout the whole year.

So basically no pro will spend more than 20.000 dollars a year on gear - and that is if you're really abusing it to a point where it won't yield any more results.

Without the gh it might be 3000 dollars a year..

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2009, 03:11:43 AM »
use a better glasses!!

you can't tell by the posted pictures

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2009, 03:23:55 AM »
More proud Aryan brothers and men of iron.......... 8)
No doubt about it...

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2009, 04:16:00 AM »
More proud Aryan brothers and men of iron.......... 8)

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2009, 04:27:38 AM »
So basically no pro will spend more than 20.000 dollars a year on gear - and that is if you're really abusing it to a point where it won't yield any more results.

I think thats a high estimate.. how much gh do you need? I'd say 7-10k is all they spend... g4p.

I bet some guys dont even buy HGH... at all.

and steroids are cheap.


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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2009, 04:35:46 AM »
I think thats a high estimate.. how much gh do you need? I'd say 7-10k is all they spend... g4p.

I bet some guys dont even buy HGH... at all.

and steroids are cheap.



yep that is basically what i'm trying to say. my 20k estimate was an absolute maximum.

some people on here think they spend like 100k a year for gear...

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Re: The Most Underrated vs. the Most Overrated (Cziurlok & Schierkamp)!!..
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2009, 04:38:52 AM »
yep that is basically what i'm trying to say. my 20k estimate was an absolute maximum.

some people on here think they spend like 100k a year for gear...

I could run 20iu gh a day.. for a year straight.. for 8-10 grand. and I'm not hooked up.

a guy thats hooked up.. wont pay a dime for gh.. do you know what I mean?