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Title: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 12:38:48 PM
Six arrested after Stamford Hill synagogue attack

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-32007767

This just happened, amazing how quick Europe is going back to its old self.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: hardgainerj on March 22, 2015, 12:44:28 PM
are jews persecuted by the british goverment?
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 12:45:45 PM
are jews persecuted by the british goverment?

When a government turns a blind eye to the abuse of any group then in turn it is enabling that abuse.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: HonestBob on March 22, 2015, 12:53:37 PM
6 drunk idiots go into a synagogue and you turn that into Jewish persecution in London.  ::)

It is this persecution complex, alongside the blind and blinkered support of Zionism, that gives Jewish people an increasingly bad reputation.

Get your head out of your ass if you think the general British public give two fucks about Jews one way or the other.  Live and let live is the British motto, and that has sadly been taken advantage of by too many who support Islam.

Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
6 drunk idiots go into a synagogue and you turn that into Jewish persecution in London.  ::)

It is this persecution complex, alongside the blind and blinkered support of Zionism, that gives Jewish people an increasingly bad reputation.

Get your head out of your ass if you think the general British public give two fucks about Jews one way or the other.  Live and let live is the British motto, and that has sadly been taken advantage of by too many who support Islam.


this is now commonplace in london, this is how things start, again respect history! Live and let live is everyone's motto until it is no longer the motto.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 22, 2015, 01:17:37 PM
6 drunk idiots go into a synagogue and you turn that into Jewish persecution in London.  ::)

It is this persecution complex, alongside the blind and blinkered support of Zionism, that gives Jewish people an increasingly bad reputation.

Get your head out of your ass if you think the general British public give two fucks about Jews one way or the other.  Live and let live is the British motto, and that has sadly been taken advantage of by too many who support Islam.

I couldn't have said it better my self. Persecution complex, zionists are insane. Whatever you do it's always anti semitic   ::)

Anything reminds them of hitlers reign.

When people burn churches, it's not against christianity, it's just randomness. If someone sprays on a mosk, it's racism. If someone vandalises synagogue it has to be anti semitism, OOOOoOOooh Brother

good for zionists, they love this pattern. But I see it, I'm not fooled By it.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: _aj_ on March 22, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
 ::)

Oh boy, a whole lotta "QED" ITT.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 22, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
I couldn't have said it better my self. Persecution complex, zionists are insane. Whatever you do it's always anti semitic   ::)

Anything reminds them of hitlers reign.

When people burn churches, it's not against christianity, it's just randomness. If someone sprays on a mosk, it's racism. If someone vandalises synagogue it has to be anti semitism, OOOOoOOooh Brother

good for zionists, they love this pattern. But I see it, I'm not fooled By it.

The anti-semitic Shield works like a charm. The homo's have followed suit and now hide behind the homophobe shield...Blacks hide behind the racist shield...My Jewish friend told me that they are taught at a very young age to use the anti-semitic Shield if they ever hear anyone say anything that goes against the Jews...He said it with a big gin on his face.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 02:01:25 PM
I rest my case! You guys proved that instead on focusing on actual facts such as the rise of attacks against jews worldwide you decided to instead focus on some BS in an attempt to cover up your own anti jewish feelings.

Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 22, 2015, 02:05:14 PM
I rest my case! You guys proved that instead on focusing on actual facts such as the rise of attacks against jews worldwide you decided to instead focus on some BS in an attempt to cover up your own anti jewish feelings.



what I said was spot on.

But yes, anti semitism has risen over the years. THanks to the nationalist jews movement "Zionism". Rabbi's have talked about how it is ruining the image of judaism, I know, just like isis is ruining the name of islam and muslims. Muslims talk about the rise of anti islam, now days more than ever and are annoyed about isis and other nut groups because of it.

White's are also persecuted more than ever, christians too. Trust me on that.

You think you are so special, you're not.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 22, 2015, 02:33:57 PM
I rest my case! You guys proved that instead on focusing on actual facts such as the rise of attacks against jews worldwide you decided to instead focus on some BS in an attempt to cover up your own anti jewish feelings.



Me and my buddy will talk shit about some cute chubby chicks at the gym...But both of us would secretly bang the cute chubby chicks. So although verbally it seems we may be anti-chubby chicks, our actions prove otherwise...Not everything is what it seems...
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
what I said was spot on.

But yes, anti semitism has risen over the years. THanks to the nationalist jews movement "Zionism". Rabbi's have talked about how it is ruining the image of judaism, I know, just like isis is ruining the name of islam and muslims. Muslims talk about the rise of anti islam, now days more than ever and are annoyed about isis and other nut groups because of it.

White's are also persecuted more than ever, christians too. Trust me on that.

You think you are so special, you're not.

the current excuse to hate jews is blamed on Zionism. What was hitlers excuse? What was the excuse of the hundreds of others who persecuted jews prior to Zionism? They always seemed to find something.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Immortal_Technique on March 22, 2015, 02:36:09 PM
I couldn't have said it better my self. Persecution complex, zionists are insane. Whatever you do it's always anti semitic   ::)

Anything reminds them of hitlers reign.

When people burn churches, it's not against christianity, it's just randomness. If someone sprays on a mosk, it's racism. If someone vandalises synagogue it has to be anti semitism, OOOOoOOooh Brother

good for zionists, they love this pattern. But I see it, I'm not fooled By it.

Zionists are indeed insane.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 02:39:17 PM
Zionists are indeed insane.
whats insane is your hatred of jews, how can you justify it?
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 22, 2015, 02:41:57 PM
the current excuse to hate jews is blamed on Zionism. What was hitlers excuse? What was the excuse of the hundreds of others who persecuted jews prior to Zionism? They always seemed to find something.


Just to be clear, I was never on hitler's side. I never supported people who hated on jewish people because they are hard working. I think it's ridiculous! Everyone should be able to do what they want, and be as succesfull or hardworking they can be or want to be.

But, as devastating as world history can be, zionism is a extreme political movement made By politically motivated jews, not religiously motivated jews, and hence it doesn't make zionism representable for judaism, no? On a personal level I feel zionism was established as in "fuck you world, we've had it, we want to be on our own" and I can understand that but that doesn't make putting things upside down and into another kind of extremism good.

For example, I would have no problem to have a jewish president.... just as long as HE, not she ;D, is an orthodox jew.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 02:47:11 PM
I couldn't have said it better my self. Persecution complex, zionists are insane. Whatever you do it's always anti semitic   ::)

Anything reminds them of hitlers reign.

When people burn churches, it's not against christianity, it's just randomness. If someone sprays on a mosk, it's racism. If someone vandalises synagogue it has to be anti semitism, OOOOoOOooh Brother

good for zionists, they love this pattern. But I see it, I'm not fooled By it.

I'm proud to say I back  the Jewish people, their Jewish state and the recent re-election of P.M. BB Net.
I served in the USMC and that's what I believe. I  have no desire to debate anyone on getbig on this issue.
I'm simply making a declaration of where I stand in reply to your post. That's it.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 02:48:13 PM
Just to be clear, I was never on hitler's side. I never supported people who hated on jewish people because they are hard working. I think it's ridiculous!

But, as devastating as world history can be, zionism is a extreme political movement made By politically motivated jews, not religiously motivated jews, and hence it doesn't make zionism representable for judaism, no? On a personal level I feel zionism was established as in "fuck you world, we've had it, we want to be on our own" and I can understand that but that doesn't make putting things upside down and into another kind of extremism good.




Over 1 million extremely religious jews live in Israel, of those about 80,000 belong to a sect that is anti zionist and they justify their living in israel by claiming they refuse to take any money from the government.

Israel only responds to attacks they do not initiate anything unless they are being threatened. They have tried many times to bring about peace. But how can you expect muslims to make peace with jews when they cannot even get along with their own kind?

People will say anything but admit they simply have whatever genetic disorder that makes them hate jews. Even cold blooded nazis needed to come up with all kind of excuses to justify their hatred of jews.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 22, 2015, 02:51:45 PM
I'm proud to say I back  the Jewish people, their Jewish state and the recent re-election of P.M. BB Net.
I served in the USMC and that's what I believe. I  have no desire to debate anyone on getbig on this issue.
I'm simply making a declaration of where I stand in reply to your post. That's it.
Thank You for serving!
(http://www.geaugaconstitutionalcouncil.org/userfiles/image/MemorialDay_MarineSalute.jpg)
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 22, 2015, 02:53:01 PM
whats insane is your hatred of jews, how can you justify it?

This is the G&O. No one gives a shit.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 22, 2015, 02:53:42 PM
Over 1 million extremely religious jews live in Israel, of those about 80,000 belong to a sect that is anti zionist and they justify their living in israel by claiming they refuse to take any money from the government.

Israel only responds to attacks they do not initiate anything unless they are being threatened. They have tried many times to bring about peace. But how can you expect muslims to make peace with jews when they cannot even get along with their own kind?

People will say anything but admit they simply have whatever genetic disorder that makes them hate jews. Even cold blooded nazis needed to come up with all kind of excuses to justify their hatred of jews.

Although Arabs were a majority in Palestine prior to the creation of the state of Israel, there had always been a Jewish population, as well. For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine for their own, to create a “Jewish State” in a region where Arabs were the majority and owned most of the land.

For instance, after a series of riots in Jaffa in 1921 resulting in the deaths of 47 Jews and 48 Arabs, the occupying British held a commission of inquiry, which reported their finding that “there is no inherent anti-Semitism in the country, racial or religious.” Rather, Arab attacks on Jewish communities were the result of Arab fears about the stated goal of the Zionists to take over the land.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2015, 02:54:09 PM
Thank You for serving!
(http://www.geaugaconstitutionalcouncil.org/userfiles/image/MemorialDay_MarineSalute.jpg)

Thanks and no biggy, as millions of others did the same.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Immortal_Technique on March 22, 2015, 03:03:35 PM
whats insane is your hatred of jews, how can you justify it?

What makes you think I hate Jews? I don't hate Jews.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: The Italian Lifter on March 22, 2015, 03:04:22 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 22, 2015, 03:12:31 PM
Thanks and no biggy, as millions of others did the same.

you talk to him like he's above you, just stop. He is NOT above you. He thinks I say this because he is jewish but he is wrong, I give him the same human worth as I would give every people that comes accross me during the day.

Of course, a zionist jew would disagree. They think jewish people are priviledged and special. And any jewish professor or a rabbi that disagrees with him- he says is a self hating jew  ::)

Do what you want. In religion there's belief, in politics  there is truth, no questioning. No matter are you religious or not, but you don't have to worship any state.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: The Italian Lifter on March 22, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
you talk to him like he's above you, just stop. He is NOT above you. He thinks I say this because he is jewish but he is wrong, I give him the same human worth as I would give every people that comes accross me during the day.

Of course, a zionist jew would disagree. They think jewish people are priviledged and special. And any jewish professor or a rabbi that disagrees with him- he says is a self hating jew  ::)

Do what you want. In religion there's belief, in politics  there is truth, no questioning. No matter are you religious or not, but you don't have to worship any state.
This is the idea that you get if you live outside US  (in EU for example ): israel is like a baby for the US, everytime he cryes US has to run and clean the baby butt from shit.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Natural Man on March 22, 2015, 03:19:57 PM
it s funny jews strongly believe they are the chosen ones and will inherit the earth, when it s obvious they ll go the way of the dodo just like christians in probably less than a century.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 22, 2015, 03:23:45 PM
This is the idea that you get if you live outside US  (in EU for example ): israel is like a baby for the US, everytime he cryes US has to run and clean the baby butt from shit.

those poor souls. I address everyone here the same way I would address... well, anybody else :D

If they could only wake up that they don't have to feel guilty for being white, or feel ashamed for being black, or feel paranoid for being jewish.

I'm all about the rainbow but zionism is just whack. Zionists have their finger prints on the immigration laws, the suppressed criticism of radical islam, pro feminism, pro homo sexuality. It's like white hetero men have been put against the wall. Then create ISIS to black label muslims all round the world, then keep sending them in europe, make everything unbalanced and call any white person racist for criticising and watch them die, prety much.

That's what I'm against. If zionists are ok with this because of the world war 2 holocaust, they can go fuck themselves :D
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Dokey111 on March 22, 2015, 03:32:04 PM
I don't trust anyone.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Mawse on March 22, 2015, 03:37:05 PM


I'm honestly amazed it wasn't muzzies doing this
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: _aj_ on March 22, 2015, 04:46:12 PM
Zionists have their finger prints on the immigration laws, the suppressed criticism of radical islam, pro feminism, pro homo sexuality.

Proof of this? You stated before that "this is politics and politics is about facts", so I am going to guess that you have proof to back up these claims.

Or is it just more of your retarded spew?
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Wiggs on March 22, 2015, 04:47:43 PM
it s funny jews strongly believe they are the chosen ones and will inherit the earth, when it s obvious they ll go the way of the dodo just like christians in probably less than a century.

That's cause they're not the real so called Jews.  Revelation 2:9

Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: The Scott on March 22, 2015, 05:24:02 PM
That's cause they're not the real so called Jews.  Revelation 2:9




Revelation 2:9

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.



Sounds as though He knew idiots would come along and claim to be Jewish.  Skin color means nothing, just as rote prayers mean nothing.

Luke 8:21

But He answered them, “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it.”


You may know of this but like so much of the Word you do not know it.  Nor follow it.

Revelation 3:20

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.


Not a single mention of skin color or even nappy hair.  Given the sorry state of black "culture" its pertinent to also note that there was not a word said about being stupid, hateful, racist and having crap language skills.  Or being painfully ignorant of what it means to be a father or mother, or...

Need I go on?  Thought not.

Loose the hatred and false pride.  If not, I shake the dust of you from my feet. 
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: _aj_ on March 22, 2015, 06:41:07 PM
This whole thread is just another variation on the centuries old anti-Semitic caricature of "The Crafty Jew". Yes, devilsmile, you ARE anti-Semitic and NO, the world is NOT run by Jews. This is the same libel that the Nazis employed and the communists employed, and countless others before them. You are just another Jew hater from a long line of European Jew haters.

Embrace it, for so many Europeans have! Just be who you are, even if it should make you sick to look in a mirror.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Bevo on March 22, 2015, 06:49:42 PM
I'm proud to say I back  the Jewish people, their Jewish state and the recent re-election of P.M. BB Net.
I served in the USMC and that's what I believe. I  have no desire to debate anyone on getbig on this issue.
I'm simply making a declaration of where I stand in reply to your post. That's it.

They don't care if u do ::)
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 12:43:07 AM
This whole thread is just another variation on the centuries old anti-Semitic caricature of "The Crafty Jew". Yes, devilsmile, you ARE anti-Semitic and NO, the world is NOT run by Jews. This is the same libel that the Nazis employed and the communists employed, and countless others before them. You are just another Jew hater from a long line of European Jew haters.

Embrace it, for so many Europeans have! Just be who you are, even if it should make you sick to look in a mirror.

How am I anti semetic when I'm down with orthodox jews?  ::)

You people make no sense. I won't idolize jews just because of world history, I was born in 1986, what the hell does the holocaust do with me?! I even said that I would have no problem if my country had an orthodox jewish president, but you still aren't convinced because he wouldn't be politically motivated jew, but god motivated one. Zionists don't care about god as much as they care about their own self righteousness and that makes them as much representable to judaism as isis is to islam.

No, sorry. Being jewish doesn't make you special, even though the bible says jews are the chosen people, but let god decide it then. I can't stand when politics are mixed in religion, it always takes god out of the equation and turns it in to nationalism, just like zionism is and being a jewish nationalist doesn't make it allright.

 I don't need to feel guilty of other people's crap that happened in ww 2 or about americas african slave trade, I was born much later. Why don't you bow down to me and feel sorry for my sorry ass
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: King Shizzo on March 23, 2015, 12:53:05 AM
This whole thread is just another variation on the centuries old anti-Semitic caricature of "The Crafty Jew". Yes, devilsmile, you ARE anti-Semitic and NO, the world is NOT run by Jews. This is the same libel that the Nazis employed and the communists employed, and countless others before them. You are just another Jew hater from a long line of European Jew haters.

Embrace it, for so many Europeans have! Just be who you are, even if it should make you sick to look in a mirror.
Oh the irony!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 01:17:13 AM
more European anti semitim acts that took place in the past 24 hours

Jewish graves vandalized, human remains scattered in Hungary

Australian theater rejects Jewish act, cites ‘Zionism’  <--Austrailia is that country that is getting more and more infested with radical islam every day, no wonder when you have a country supporting anti jewish moves you have teens running to ISIS. Guys remember, anti Zionism is a cover and excuse for anti semitisim
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Automation on March 23, 2015, 01:32:56 AM
Sad to see that the majority of humans are still running around killing each other over their imagined sky gods. Pathetic!
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 01:36:09 AM
more European anti semitim acts that took place in the past 24 hours

Jewish graves vandalized, human remains scattered in Hungary

Australian theater rejects Jewish act, cites ‘Zionism’  <--Austrailia is that country that is getting more and more infested with radical islam every day, no wonder when you have a country supporting anti jewish moves you have teens running to ISIS. Guys remember, anti Zionism is a cover and excuse for anti semitisim

Again, you are so full of hate yourself that you can't see the forrest By the trees

THose acts you mentioned are terrible and wrong. I despise that kind of behaviour, any type radical behaviour should be dealt with. But you said it, teens running around. Most of the time it's just that.

Doesn't make it right one bit, but anti zionism is anti zionism, not anti semitism. No matter how much you try, you will not drag me with you in to the pit. Orthodox jewish rabbis have the voice of truth and they say fuck zionism. Just because some people hate jews, doesn't mean they all hate jews, and definitely doesn't mean that jews should form some sort of nationalist movement, just like any group shouldn't. And if some people blindly hate jews because it's trendy, well that's their fucking problem! Muslims, black and browns are having a field day in sweden, but I'm still not racist, I'm still not agreeing with white nationalist movements at all.

Sad to see that the majority of humans are still running around killing each other over their imagined sky gods. Pathetic!

It's actually when religion is changed in to politics people start to kill in the name of religion, but that's only when god is taken out of the equation. Judaism forbids zionism and radicalism.

Trust me. In the middle ages christians who refused to bow down to the church but instead wanted to follow gods word peacefully were butchered.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 01:41:32 AM
Again, you are so full of hate yourself that you can't see the forrest By the trees

THose acts you mentioned are terrible and wrong. I despise that kind of behaviour, any type radical behaviour should be dealt with. But you said it, teens running around. Most of the time it's just that.

Doesn't make it right one bit, but anti zionism is anti zionism, not anti semitism. No matter how much you try, you will not drag me with you in to the pit. Orthodox jewish rabbis have the voice of truth and they say fuck zionism. Just because some people hate jews, doesn't mean they all hate jews, and definitely doesn't mean that jews should form some sort of nationalist movement, just like any group shouldn't. And if some people blindly hate jews because it's trendy, well that's their fucking problem! Muslims, black and browns are having a field day in sweden, but I'm still not racist, I'm still not agreeing with white nationalist movements at all.

So for you to stop hating Jews Israel needs to move out of there hu? And the hundreds of millions who hated jews prior to the state of Israel were they simply hating them because they knew one day there will be a state of Israel?

It is just a cover, you are not fooling me or anyone
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 01:45:51 AM
So for you to stop hating Jews Israel needs to move out of there hu? And the hundreds of millions who hated jews prior to the state of Israel were they simply hating them because they knew one day there will be a state of Israel?

It is just a cover, you are not fooling me or anyone

Anyone who hates anyone simply because of their paranoia about anything sould be fucking shot. Yes jews have been hated since forever, doesn't make zionism right. I never supported hatered against jews. The bullshit that jews take everyones job and whatever else bullshit. I never agreed on that.

But when it comes to judaism, it's about abiding gods laws. Zionism is not doing so, since it's purely political.

YOU are not fooling anyone. I don't care do you agree, or does any other zionist agree, because most of the time zionists are zonists even if jesus spoke to them. But if one person sees these things for the first time, starts to search more about this and finds out I'm totally right, in that case I am very very happy.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 01:51:47 AM
Anyone who hates anyone simply because of their paranoia about anything sould be fucking shot. Yes jews have been hated since forever, doesn't make zionism right. I never supported hatered against jews. The bullshit that jews take everyones job and whatever else bullshit. I never agreed on that.

But when it comes to judaism, it's about abiding gods laws. Zionism is not doing so, since it's purely political.

YOU are not fooling anyone. I don't care do you agree, or does any other zionist agree, because most of the time zionists are zonists even if jesus spoke to them. But if one person sees these things for the first time, starts to search more about this and finds out I'm totally right, in that case I am very very happy.

Boy you are full of shit

"But when it comes to judaism, it's about abiding gods laws. Zionism is not doing so, since it's purely political."

So you are hating them because according to you they are not following their gods laws lol

What about jews that are non zionists that dont follow other things about their god?

what about muslims that dont follow their god rules, you hate them?

you have been caught in your own trap
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 23, 2015, 01:57:15 AM
Israel make good weapons  ;), fuck religion .
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 02:10:00 AM
Boy you are full of shit

"But when it comes to judaism, it's about abiding gods laws. Zionism is not doing so, since it's purely political."

So you are hating them because according to you they are not following their gods laws lol

What about jews that are non zionists that dont follow other things about their god?

what about muslims that dont follow their god rules, you hate them?

you have been caught in your own trap

I hate zionists because they think By default they are greater than any other man or woman or child. Because they label any type of criticism anti semitism. One zionist woman gave an interview, she said that the failed state of multiculture in europe is because white people can't get along with differend people.. and then said that it's possible that anti semitism will rise from it, oh Brother just kill me now  ::)

What individuals say or do means shit. But when a whole nation becomes nationalist in the name of something, anything- robbing and killing original land habitants because these newly born nationalists are convinced they just have the right to do it,- is fucked up and WRONG! Exactly what Israel is doing today. Prior to zionism arab nations lived rather peacefully with Israel, now it's unheard of.

And yes, I do despise muslims, or anybody who caims to be something but then lives the total opposite.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 02:11:28 AM
I hate zionists because they think By default they are greater than any other man or woman or child. Because they label any type of criticism anti semitism. One zionist woman gave an interview, she said that the failed state of multiculture in europe is because white people can't get along with differend people.. and then said that it's possible that anti semitism will rise from it, oh Brother just kill me now  ::)

What individuals say or do means shit. But when a whole nation becomes nationalist in the name of something, anything- robbing and killing original land habitants because these newly born nationalists are convinced they just have the right to do it,- is fucked up and WRONG! Exactly what Israel is doing today. Prior to zionism arab nations lived rather peacefully with Israel, now it's unheard of.

And yes, I do despise muslims, or anybody who caims to be something but then lives the total opposite.
despise yourself then, you claim to be human and you are a real stinking racist anti semite, at least man up and admit you are using excuses to cover up your jew hatred
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 02:16:40 AM
despise yourself then, you claim to be human and you are a real stinking racist anti semite, at least man up and admit you are using excuses to cover up your jew hatred

useless to talk to you. I give you an answer and you come up with this, again, that I'm anti semite , just because ::) . No explanation, no nothing. I must be a racist and anti semite because I disagree with highly arrogant and radical jew here, lolz

but you aren't jewish.

you give jewish people a terrible name, you give religious people a terrible name. You give people a terrible name. You're the worst kind of shit.
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Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 23, 2015, 02:17:03 AM
SS-Oberfuhrer Emile Maurice is my favourite Jew , other ways Hitler best friend.

 ;D
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 02:28:50 AM
useless to talk to you. I give you an answer and you come up with this, again, that I'm anti semite , just because ::) . No explanation, no nothing. I must be a racist and anti semite because I disagree with highly arrogant and radical jew here, lolz

but you aren't jewish.

you give jewish people a terrible name, you give religious people a terrible name. You give people a terrible name. You're the worst kind of shit.

Like I said man up already, stop claiming you are the jewish gods enforcer aand only hate jews that do not follow the torah

cut the bs
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 02:30:55 AM
Like I said man up already, stop claiming you are the jewish gods enforcer aand only hate jews that do not follow the torah

cut the bs

I will pray for you. And if anything, I will forgive you. Because you are clearly insane, you don't know what you're saying.

It's allright :)
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Skorp1o on March 23, 2015, 02:37:10 AM
6 drunk idiots go into a synagogue and you turn that into Jewish persecution in London.  ::)

It is this persecution complex, alongside the blind and blinkered support of Zionism, that gives Jewish people an increasingly bad reputation.

Get your head out of your ass if you think the general British public give two fucks about Jews one way or the other.  Live and let live is the British motto, and that has sadly been taken advantage of by too many who support Islam.

I second that. Well said
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 02:50:28 AM
I second that. Well said

who cares that they were drunk? If a drunk person yells our racial slurs all that means is that they are racist in real life

once again, when its persecution of jews you anti semites have all kinds of creative justification
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 02:59:21 AM
I will pray for you. And if anything, I will forgive you. Because you are clearly insane, you don't know what you're saying.

It's allright :)
get in on my new thread would like to hear what you think http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=568892.0
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Skorp1o on March 23, 2015, 03:14:05 AM
who cares that they were drunk? If a drunk person yells our racial slurs all that means is that they are racist in real life

once again, when its persecution of jews you anti semites have all kinds of creative justification


There's a difference between calling those drunks racists...anticemites... etc and saying that the UK is persecuting Jews.

Two totally different allegations. Capice?
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: SuperTed on March 23, 2015, 03:23:15 AM
There's a difference between calling those drunks racists...anticemites... etc and saying that the UK is persecuting Jews.

Two totally different allegations. Capice?

I agree. You get plenty of boozed up morons in the UK who sometimes commit these kind of attacks. Even churches can get vandalised by yobs of a similar ilk.

I wouldn't look too much into it. Just drunken losers acting like drunken losers.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 03:43:22 AM
There's a difference between calling those drunks racists...anticemites... etc and saying that the UK is persecuting Jews.

Two totally different allegations. Capice?

Nazi Germany should have been a lesson, when governments endorse or do not condemn racist acts they are enablers.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 04:26:44 AM
Nazi Germany should have been a lesson, when governments endorse or do not condemn racist acts they are enablers.

Brilliant! The failed attempt in multiculture and the purposely fucked up immigration policies in europe must mean that somebody really hates whiteys too. I don't know any other group of people being more persecuted than the white race, because every white person is guilty for antique shit, so sayeth the zionist.

Noone thinks the holocaust was ok,  If some drunken people vandalise a synagogue, it's wrong, but it's a petty attempt to claim there's persecution against entire judaism.
 But you can't comprehend it when I say it since I don't recognize zionism as legit judaism, so I must be antisemite at heart, right.

Extreme people will always be extreme. Like a fire wall setting put to max, nothing goes in, nothing goes out. It's all or nothing for people like you, backyard is dirty as hell but if it's "yours" it's allright  ::). Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 04:33:29 AM
If some drunken people vandalise a synagogue, it's wrong, but it's a petty attempt to claim there's persecution against entire judaism.



so unless an entire race is being persecuted no one should care

I guarantee you that you would never be justifying this kind of persecution against any other group
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 04:40:51 AM
so unless an entire race is being persecuted no one should care

I guarantee you that you would never be justifying this kind of persecution against any other group

Ghawd :D. I never justified the actions commited against that synagogue and it's residence, I said it's wrong from any angle I look at it. I've been saying it all along. I'm all about the golden middle road, live and let live.

I don't want to say most people, but for many people that's almost impossible. It's either take it in the ass or join a nationalist movement, people who choose the golden middle road are looked more down upon than any biggot. Crazy world.

Just relax. I think we've talked enough of this bullshit. Lets just have a beer and play some pool and shit.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 23, 2015, 05:08:54 AM
Nazi Germany should have been a lesson, when governments endorse or do not condemn racist acts they are enablers.

O stop pissing, we all hate Arabs  >:(

The End
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 05:10:26 AM
Ghawd :D. I never justified the actions commited against that synagogue and it's residence, I said it's wrong from any angle I look at it. I've been saying it all along. I'm all about the golden middle road, live and let live.

I don't want to say most people, but for many people that's almost impossible. It's either take it in the ass or join a nationalist movement, people who choose the golden middle road are looked more down upon than any biggot. Crazy world.

Just relax. I think we've talked enough of this bullshit. Lets just have a beer and play some pool and shit.

You are allowed to drink alcohol? I really started to think you are a Radical Muslim.

Meet me at the western wall, we can play pool on that table I guess given I get to choose what side I play on

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZovFqFd13U/UzTVhdu5ruI/AAAAAAAAAXE/QH25UgtKyOQ/s1600/Western_Wall_Daniel.jpg)
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 05:20:05 AM
You are allowed to drink alcohol? I really started to think you are a Radical Muslim.

Meet me at the western wall, we can play pool on that table I guess given I get to choose what side I play on

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZovFqFd13U/UzTVhdu5ruI/AAAAAAAAAXE/QH25UgtKyOQ/s1600/Western_Wall_Daniel.jpg)

I immidiately saw the naked man on the wall (no homo)

Come on u don't mean that, radical muslims make lesss sense than you zionist lot, and that says something ;D

I'm a believer who lives the life of a sinner  :P. It would be awesome to visit that Place!

Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Natural Man on March 23, 2015, 07:28:25 AM
Sad to see that the majority of humans are still running around killing each other over their imagined sky gods. Pathetic!
because depressed nihilistic atheists poping pills and killing themselves daily are doing waaay better right.
No belief is the "right , true one", they re all wrong. We re just an animal specie that will disapear just like countless other animal or vegetal species in the past.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: SF1900 on March 23, 2015, 07:30:04 AM
because depressed nihilistic atheists poping pills and killing themselves daily are doing waaay better right.

uh oh, a new gimmick change. 8 months ago you were a die hard christian, then you were an atheist and anti-religion, now you're back talking smack about atheists. Here we go again.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 07:30:33 AM
because depressed nihilistic atheists poping pills and killing themselves daily are doing waaay better right.
We need richard dawkins to chime in asap ::)

Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Skorp1o on March 23, 2015, 07:49:10 AM
I get it...we've come to learn that Jews cannot be criticised or wronged in any shape or form otherwise you get branded an anticemite Nazi you and your family, your country and your dead  grand ma and her smelly old dog....if a bunch of pricks vanadalize a synagogue....the whole of the UK is persecuting Jews because that's what Hitler did...the most pathetic argument I ever heard.

Chavs vandalize everything on sight daily in the UK...charities for the blind, hospitals, nurseries, cars...etx if they vandalize a synagogue...the UK is persecuting Jews oh boy.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 08:00:29 AM
I get it...we've come to learn that Jews cannot be criticised or wronged in any shape or form otherwise you get branded an anticemite Nazi you and your family, your country and your dead  grand ma and her smelly old dog....if a bunch of pricks vanadalize a synagogue....the whole of the UK is persecuting Jews because that's what Hitler did...the most pathetic argument I ever heard.

Chavs vandalize everything on sight daily in the UK...charities for the blind, hospitals, nurseries, cars...etx if they vandalize a synagogue...the UK is persecuting Jews oh boy.

ANY type of criticism of jews is antisemitism! Thou shall not question your masters.. sssssLAve!

And if highly educated orthodox rabbi will agree with you or I, he is nothing but a self hating jew with "genetic mutation" :D
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: The Italian Lifter on March 23, 2015, 08:03:45 AM
ANY type of criticism of jews is antisemitism! Thou shall not question your master.. sssssLAve!

Exactly, this is the reason why nobody likes them  (even if very few are willing to admit it )
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 23, 2015, 08:04:16 AM
Poor little Jews.  Always the victim.  Funny how they can instigate as much shit as they want and as soon as someone retaliates they play the role of victim.  No wonder so many actors in hollywood are jewish.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: King Shizzo on March 23, 2015, 08:07:27 AM
Whats the obsession over Jews? Is that more of a foreign thing?

I could honestly care less if someone is Jewish.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 08:13:52 AM
Whats the obsession over Jews? Is that more of a foreign thing?

I could honestly care less if someone is Jewish.

Me neither. But since I'm interested in world news, I find it interesting to find out that ISIS is a jewish mossad created group of people, that's all. It makes yo uquestion a lot of things. It's not about obsession of jews per say.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 08:19:55 AM
Me neither. But since I'm interested in world news, I find it interesting to find out that ISIS is a jewish mossad created group of people, that's all. It makes yo uquestion a lot of things. It's not about obsession of jews per say.
You really believe ISIS is a jewish based group? be serious
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Skorp1o on March 23, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
Whats the obsession over Jews? Is that more of a foreign thing?

I could honestly care less if someone is Jewish.

Didn't you say your mum was Indian? Pakis are loathed in Europe more than any other ethnic group.....Shizzo Patel.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: King Shizzo on March 23, 2015, 08:58:51 AM
Didn't you say your mum was Indian? Pakis are loathed in Europe more than any other ethnic group.....Shizzo Patel.
No you idiot. I said she may have a small % of American Indian.  :D
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Skorp1o on March 23, 2015, 09:07:58 AM
No you idiot. I said she may have a small % of American Indian.  :D

American Indian is an offensive term....native American is how they should be addressed.

Does that make you the fattest Cherokee on record?
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: King Shizzo on March 23, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
American Indian is an offensive term....native American is how they should be addressed.

Does that make you the fattest Cherokee on record?
Its Slapahoe.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 23, 2015, 09:33:35 AM
This is how the media will view it.  Why is the world against Jews, why blame Jews, they are innocent. OH, Israel dropped 20 bombs, they are protecting their right to exist, oh a palestinian boy threw a rock at a soldier, he is a TERRORIST.  AHHHHHHH TERRORIST, RUN!!!!  Israel will launch dozens of rockets blowing up buildings and countless innocent people and they are just defending themselves, but a palestinian with no rockets, not USA made artillery uses a cheap homemade bomb, they are a suicide bomber.  The jewish media uses these terms over and over and over to implant them into everyone's brain so anytime they bring up any of the terms people immediatly agree and don't argue it.  A man in New Orleans the other day attacked a couple TSA agents, it was labelled agravated assult.  If he was muslim it would have been labelled an act of terrorism.  They are using the media to do their dirty work and hide all the crimes they commit but only report on them as a victim to gain sympathy.

Muscularny made a claim that it's a new thing to blames Jews for everything.  Stereotypes exist for a reason, because they're true.  People blame the Jews for a lot of the world's bullshit because they're actually behind it and instigate a lot of it, then sit back and blame others.  Anyone that tries to argue is immediately an anti-semite.  Funny about the word anti-semite is I've never heard the word Pro-semite used ever.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 09:41:57 AM
This is how the media will view it.  Why is the world against Jews, why blame Jews, they are innocent. OH, Israel dropped 20 bombs, they are protecting their right to exist, oh a palestinian boy threw a rock at a soldier, he is a TERRORIST.  AHHHHHHH TERRORIST, RUN!!!!  Israel will launch dozens of rockets blowing up buildings and countless innocent people and they are just defending themselves, but a palestinian with no rockets, not USA made artillery uses a cheap homemade bomb, they are a suicide bomber.  The jewish media uses these terms over and over and over to implant them into everyone's brain so anytime they bring up any of the terms people immediatly agree and don't argue it.  A man in New Orleans the other day attacked a couple TSA agents, it was labelled agravated assult.  If he was muslim it would have been labelled an act of terrorism.  They are using the media to do their dirty work and hide all the crimes they commit but only report on them as a victim to gain sympathy.

Muscularny made a claim that it's a new thing to blames Jews for everything.  Stereotypes exist for a reason, because they're true.  People blame the Jews for a lot of the world's bullshit because they're actually behind it and instigate a lot of it, then sit back and blame others.  Anyone that tries to argue is immediately an anti-semite.  Funny about the word anti-semite is I've never heard the word Pro-semite used ever.

What was their fault prior to WWII, educate me?
How about Blood lible, do you believe the jews really kidnaped christian kids and killed them? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

Jews have always kept to themselves and thrived, then jealousy arrived and people wanted them dead
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Post by: TheGrinch on March 23, 2015, 10:06:55 AM
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Post by: Natural Man on March 23, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
Darwinism: Survival without Purpose
by Jerry Bergman, Ph.D. *
Evidence for Creation › Evidence for God › Design and Purpose › God Caused Meaning

Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life...life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA...life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference.1 --Richard Dawkins

Evolution is "deceptively simple yet utterly profound in its implications,"2 the first of which is that living creatures "differ from one another, and those variations arise at random, without a plan or purpose."3 Evolution must be without plan or purpose because its core tenet is the natural selection of the fittest, produced by random copying errors called mutations. Darwin "was keenly aware that admitting any purposefulness whatsoever to the question of the origin of species would put his theory of natural selection on a very slippery slope."4 Pulitzer Prize author Edward Humes wrote that the fact of evolution was obvious but "few could see it, so trapped were they by the human…desire to find design and purpose in the world." He concluded:

    Darwin's brilliance was in seeing beyond the appearance of design, and understanding the purposeless, merciless process of natural selection, of life and death in the wild, and how it culled all but the most successful organisms from the tree of life, thereby creating the illusion that a master intellect had designed the world. But close inspection of the watchlike "perfection" of honeybees' combs or ant trails…reveals that they are a product of random, repetitive, unconscious behaviors, not conscious design.5

The fact that evolution teaches that life has no purpose beyond perpetuating its own survival is not lost on teachers. One testified that teaching evolution "impacted their consciences" because it moved teachers away from the "idea that they were born for a purpose… something completely counter to their mindset and beliefs."6

In a study on why children resist accepting evolution, Yale psychologists Bloom and Weisberg concluded that the evolutionary way of viewing the world, which the authors call "promiscuous teleology," makes it difficult for them to accept evolution. Children "naturally see the world in terms of design and purpose."7 The ultimate purposelessness of evolution, and thus of the life that it produces, was eloquently expressed by Professor Lawrence Krauss as follows: "We're just a bit of pollution…. If you got rid of us…the universe would be largely the same. We're completely irrelevant."8

The Textbooks

To determine what schools are teaching about religious questions such as the purpose of life, I surveyed current science textbooks and found that they tend to teach the view that evolution is both nihilistic and atheistic. One of today's most widely-used textbooks stated that "evolution works without either plan or purpose…. Evolution is random and undirected."9 Another text by the same authors added that Darwin knew his theory "required believing in philosophical materialism, the conviction that matter is the stuff of all existence and that all mental and spiritual phenomena are its byproducts." The authors continued:

    Darwinian evolution was not only purposeless but also heartless--a process in which...nature ruthlessly eliminates the unfit. Suddenly, humanity was reduced to just one more species in a world that cared nothing for us. The great human mind was no more than a mass of evolving neurons. Worst of all, there was no divine plan to guide us.10

Another text taught that humans are just "a tiny, largely fortuitous, and late-arising twig on the enormously arborescent bush of life" and the belief that a "progressive, guiding force, consistently pushing evolution to move in a single direction" is now known to be "misguided."11 Many texts teach that evolution is purposeless and has no goal except to achieve brute survival: the "idea that evolution is not directed towards a final goal or state has been more difficult for many people to accept than the process of evolution itself."12 One major text openly teaches that humans were created by a blind, deaf, and dumb watchmaker--namely natural selection, which is "totally blind to the future."

    Humans...came from the same evolutionary source as every other species. It is natural selection of selfish genes that has given us our bodies and our brains…. Natural selection…explains…the whole of life, the diversity of life, the complexity of life, |and| the apparent design in life."13

The Implications

Many texts are very open about the implications of Darwinism for theism. One teaches that Darwin's immeasurably important contribution to science was to show that, despite life's apparent evidence of design and purpose, mechanistic causes explain all biological phenomena. The text adds that by coupling "undirected, purposeless variation to the blind, uncaring process of natural selection, Darwin made theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superfluous."14 The author concludes by noting that "it was Darwin's theory of Evolution that provided a crucial plank to the platform of mechanisms and materialism…that has been the stage of most western thought."15 Another text even stated directly that humans were created by a random process, not a loving, purposeful God, and:

    The real difficulty in accepting Darwin's theory has always been that it seems to diminish our significance…. |Evolution| asked us to accept the proposition that, like all other organisms, we too are the products of a random process that, as far as science can show, we are not created for any special purpose or as part of any universal design.16

These texts are all clearly teaching religious ideas, not science. An excellent example is a text that openly ruled out not only theistic evolution, but any role for God in nature, and demonstrated that Darwinism threatened theism by showing that humans and all life "could be explained by natural selection without the intervention of a god." Evolutionary "randomness and uncertainty had replaced a deity having conscious, purposeful, human characteristics."

    The Darwinian view that… present-type organisms were not created spontaneously but formed in a succession of selective events that occurred in the past, contradicted the common religious view that there could be no design, biological or otherwise, without an intelligent designer…. In this scheme a god of design and purpose is not necessary…. Religion has been bolstered by… the comforting idea that humanity was created in the image of a god to rule over the world and its creatures. Religion provided emotional solace, a set of ethical and moral values…. Nevertheless, faith in religious dogma has been eroded by natural explanations of its mysteries…. The positions of the creationists and the scientific world appear irreconcilable."17

Darwin himself taught a totally atheistic, naturalistic view of origins. He even once said, "I would give nothing for the theory of natural selection if it requires miraculous additions at any one stage of descent."18 John Alcock, an evolutionary biologist, therefore concluded that "we exist solely to propagate the genes within us."19

Leading Darwin scholar Janet Browne makes it very clear that Darwin's goal was the "arduous task of reorienting the way Victorians looked at nature." To do this Darwin had to convince the world that "ideas about a benevolent, nearly perfect natural world" and those that believe "beauty was given to things for a purpose, were wrong--that the idea of a loving God who created all living things and brought men and women into existence was…a fable."

    The world…steeped in moral meaning which helped mankind seek out higher goals in life, was not Darwin's. Darwin's view of nature was dark--black…. Where most men and women generally believed in some kind of design in nature--some kind of plan and order--and felt a deep-seated, mostly inexpressible belief that their existence had meaning, Darwin wanted them to see all life as empty of any divine purpose.20

Darwin knew how difficult it was to abandon such a view, but realized that for evolution to work, nature must ultimately be "governed entirely by chance." Browne concludes:

    The pleasant outward face of nature was precisely that--only an outward face. Underneath was perpetual struggle, species against species, individual against individual. Life was ruled by death...destruction was the key to reproductive success. All the theological meaning was thus stripped out by Darwin and replaced by the concept of competition. All the telos, the purpose, on which natural theologians based their ideas of perfect adaptation was redirected into Malthusian--Darwinian--struggle. What most people saw as God-given design he saw as mere adaptations to circumstance, adaptations that were meaningless except for the way in which they helped an animal or plant to survive.21

Neo-Darwinist Richard Dawkins recognized the purposelessness of such a system:

    In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.22

How widely is this view held by scientists? One study of 149 leading biologists found that 89.9 percent believed that evolution has no ultimate purpose or goal except survival, and we are just a cosmic accident existing at the whim of time and chance. A mere six percent believed that evolution has a purpose.23 Almost all of those who believed that evolution had no purpose were atheists. This is only one example that Sommers and Rosenberg call the "destructive power of Darwinian theory."24

Purpose and Christianity

Christianity teaches that God made the universe as a home for humans. If the universe evolved purely by natural means, then it just exists and any "purpose" for its existence can only be that which humans themselves attribute to it. But our own experience and intellectual attainments argue against this. The similarity of human-constructed machines and the orderly functioning of the universe is the basis of the design argument. Just as a machine requires a designer and a builder, so too the universe that we see requires a designer and a builder.

Determining the purpose of something depends on the observer's worldview. To a nontheist the question "What is the purpose of a living organism's structure?" means only "How does this structure aid survival?" Eyesight and legs would therefore have nothing to do with enjoyment of life; they are merely an unintended byproduct of evolution. Biologists consistently explain everything from coloration to sexual habits solely on the basis of survival. Orthodox neo-Darwinism views everything as either an unfortunate or a fortuitous event resulting from the outworking of natural law and random, naturally-selected mutations. Conversely, creationists interpret all reality according to beliefs about God's purpose for humans. Evolutionists can usually explain even contradictory behavior, but creationists look beyond this and try to determine what role it plays in God's plan.

Conclusions

Orthodox evolution teaches that the living world has no plan or purpose except survival, is random, undirected, and heartless. Humans live in a world that cares nothing for us, our minds are simply masses of meat, and no divine plan exists to guide us. These teachings are hardly neutral, but rather openly teach religion--the religion of atheism and nihilism. The courts have consistently approved teaching this anti-Christian religion in public schools and have blocked all attempts to neutralize these clearly religious ideas.



References

    Scheff, Liam. 2007. The Dawkins Delusion. Salvo, 2:94.
    Humes, Edward. 2007. Monkey Girl: Evolution, Education, Religion, and the Battle for America's Soul. New York: Ecco, 119.
    Ibid, 119.
    Turner, J. Scott. 2007. The Tinkerer's Accomplice: How Design Emerges from Life Itself. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 206.
    Humes, Monkey Girl, 119.
    Ibid, 172.
    Bloom, Paul and Deena Skolnick Weisberg. 2007. Childhood Origins to Adult Resistance to Science. Science, 316:996.
    Panek, Richard. 2007. Out There. New York Times Magazine, 56.
    Miller, Kenneth R. and Joseph S. Levine. Biology. 1998. Fourth Edition, Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice Hall, 658, emphasis in original.
    Levine, Joseph S. and Kenneth R. Miller 1994. Biology: Discovering Life. Second Edition, Lexington, MA: D.C. Heath, 161, emphasis in original.
    Raven, Peter H. and George B. Johnson. 2002. Biology. Sixth Edition, Boston, MA: McGraw Hill, 16, 443.
    Purves, William K., David Sadava, Gordon H. Orians, and H. Craig Keller. 2001. Life: The Science of Biology. Sixth Edition, Sunderland, MA: Sinauer Associates; W.H. Freeman, 3.
    Interview with Richard Dawkins in Campbell, Neil A., Jane B. Reece, and Lawrence G. Mitchell. 1999. Biology. Fifth Edition, Menlo Park, CA: Addison Wesley Longman, 412-413.
    Futuyma, Douglas J. 1998. Evolutionary Biology. Third Edition, Sunderland, MA: Sinauer Associates, 5.
    Ibid, 5.
    Curtis, Helena and N. Sue Barnes. 1981. Invitation to Biology. Third Edition, New York, NY: Worth, 475.
   &guy, Monroe. 2000. Evolution. Third Edition, Sudbury, MA: Jones & Bartlett, 70-71.
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* Dr. Bergman is Professor of Biology at Northwest State College in Ohio.

Cite this article: Bergman, J. 2007. Darwinism: Survival without Purpose. Acts & Facts. 36 (11): 10.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 12:18:15 PM
You really believe ISIS is a jewish based group? be serious

Yes I'm serious about it. At least the leader is, wether the isis militants know it or not.

If you search information about pro zionism of today, and anti zionism, not from any pro nationalist sources because that's just my point, it's bullshit, but from impartial sources that categorize everything and looks at things raw, you will find things, and my heart goes with what I said. Originally judaism is about abiding gods law, like christianity is, like islam is. But these politically motivated movements in these religions are tearing them apart because they are politically motivated and disguise terror of all kind in the name of religion. Science is not the only reason why people have lost faith, it's the godless, politically motivated movements that scare people away from religion and has made people despise religion as a whole, but that's another topic.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 23, 2015, 12:25:16 PM
What was their fault prior to WWII, educate me?
How about Blood lible, do you believe the jews really kidnaped christian kids and killed them? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

Jews have always kept to themselves and thrived, then jealousy arrived and people wanted them dead

And there it is, the Jewish answer to everything.  WW2, the holocaust.  It's like how blacks today throw up the slavery card anytime things don't go their way.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 12:26:21 PM
Yes I'm serious about it. At least the leader is, wether the isis militants know it or not.

If you search information about pro zionism of today, and anti zionism, not from any pro nationalist sources because that's just my point, it's bullshit, but from impartial sources that categorize everything and looks at things raw, you will find things, and my heart goes with what I said. Originally judaism is about abiding gods law, like christianity is, like islam is. But these politically motivated movements in these religions are tearing them apart because they are politically motivated and disguise terror of all kind in the name of religion. Science is not the only reason why people have lost faith, it's the godless, politically motivated movements that scare people away from religion and has made people despise religion as a whole, but that's another topic.

come on, we know his history rather well especially given he did plenty of time under us control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi

Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 12:34:17 PM
come on, we know his history rather well especially given he did plenty of time under us control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi

how do you explain this? Just a lie? Photoshop? An attempt to make people think ISIS is actually a jewish aided group? So who is right and who is wrong :D ?

(http://i.imgur.com/RVeZfhL.jpg)
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: Natural Man on March 23, 2015, 05:49:04 PM
how do you explain this? Just a lie? Photoshop? An attempt to make people think ISIS is actually a jewish aided group? So who is right and who is wrong :D ?

(http://i.imgur.com/RVeZfhL.jpg)
come on...you sound like wiggs with nibiru and black hebrews now...
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 23, 2015, 06:28:42 PM
Curious where Isis found a flag factory so fast. Did they order a 1000 on Amazon ? Anyone not think this was not planned for a while.  The wearing of masks to hide who they really are.
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: TheGrinch on March 23, 2015, 08:24:26 PM
Curious where Isis found a flag factory so fast. Did they order a 1000 on Amazon ? Anyone not think this was not planned for a while.  The wearing of masks to hide who they really are.

the freakin' head dude seems like some US military guy they plucked out and paid $$$ to be the "face"

this "head" guy aint no Muslim fanatic... no way
Title: Re: Jews being persecuted in London, new attack
Post by: da_vinci on March 24, 2015, 03:47:30 AM
Darwinism: Survival without Purpose
by Jerry Bergman, Ph.D. *


We are all fluctuations and reflections of the first impuls of a hyperintensive energy that once accumulated, tension built up over time and then it exploded, everything that exploded was actually "copies" of the that first hyper intensive vibration, the result of a few forces that created a third force, which was a copy and had traits of first ones and started reflecting itself to other copies, somewhat a process of adivision. But it's an explosion actually. What physicists call an expanding universe is simply a continuing explosion, distances are increasing, between planets, between atoms, electrons, and it's cooling down slowly, as copies, just like made by a photocopier are degrading little by little, the photocopier itself is giving his heat/energy to copies and that energy is diminishing. So basically a whole universe is kind of getting "numb", it's being called an Entropy.
 The basal duality once again is reflected in that process of accumulation and then explosion, kind of an attempt to reflect on "itself" later on "from far away", when these forces, these vibrations create states, consciousness (which is a state too, everything is a state), focus, will, energy and.... shapes of these states that we see and experience in our material world, subatomic particles included. But in essence everything is still a whole, from the same, everywhere, built by these same principles of duality, when something is pulled, something is pushing, something is given, something is taken.
 Keep in mind - in order to explode/expand for a universe it has to accumulate, and to accumulate it has to expand. Duality once again. And it's never eding, actually "end" that we understand by a notion of death is a nonexistent mathematical expression that makes no sense in a whole equaltion, a fluke, a fallacy it leads nowhere, just like after a certain point mathematics just can't calculate anything more than it already has, because it basically calclulated.... yes, itself. Vibrations calculated itself, reflected on itself and there's nowhere to go after that as that is actually everithing there is to calculate.
 Same processes are happening everywhere and in everything. When a human being is trying to get "enlightened", it accumulates information, processes it inside himself, and the tension is building up to apoint where it finally explodes and is able to "evaluate himeslf" (a universe) from a distance, just like a... universe.
 Everything is very simple, based on these same principles, everything is mathematics (which exist only in... these same vibrations, obviously) and there can not be anything except mathematics, because universe in it's essence is absolutely linear, you can't go from 1 to 3 without 2, it just does not happen, it's strictly calculated and goes by strict progression from an impluse to impulse and backwards and everything is actually explainable (as it works on the same principles that explain them. Quite a minfuck, eh?

The purpose of all this? A state... universe experiencing itself in states and shapes, until it cools down and these forces that makes everything everywhere swirl (as everything is swirling, electrones, planets, galaxies, etc..) slowly brings everyhing all over again to a point of tension and it explodes once again. But it's just an illusion afterall, as there's no "before" or "after", only now, a now that is happening and happening and happening and happening as it can not NOT happen.

Enjoy it, embrace it, you/me/we are a universe that is reflecting on itself by using one of it's states and shapes of these vibrations, a reflection of that universe, of these two main forces that started a third one (to put it in somewhat humanly understandable way). At it‘s core - You are your "focus", like with that Schroedingers cat - where you will seek - you will find. So be careful of what your focus is, what it is concentrated On, you will find exactly that, it can not be otherwise, a principle of reflection (of these two forces creating their reflection in a third one and so on), it's how it works at it's basic level and it‘s working beautifully.