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By JEAN H. LEE – 3 minutes ago
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — Kim Jong Il, North Korea's mercurial and enigmatic longtime leader, has died. He was 69.
Kim's death was announced Monday by the state television from the North Korean capital, Pyongyang.
Kim is believed to have suffered a stroke in 2008 but he had appeared relatively vigorous in photos and video from recent trips to China and Russia and in numerous trips around the country carefully documented by state media. The communist country's "Dear Leader" — reputed to have had a taste for cigars, cognac and gourmet cuisine — was believed to have had diabetes and heart disease.
The news came as North Korea prepared for a hereditary succession. Kim Jong Il inherited power after his father, revered North Korean founder Kim Il Sung, died in 1994. In September 2010, Kim Jong Il unveiled his third son, the twenty-something Kim Jong Un, as his successor, putting him in high-ranking posts.
Kim Jong Il had been groomed for 20 years to lead the communist nation founded by his guerrilla fighter-turned-politician father and built according to the principle of "juche," or self-reliance.
Even with a successor, there had been some fear among North Korean observers of a behind-the-scenes power struggle or nuclear instability upon the elder Kim's death.
Few firm facts are available when it comes to North Korea, one of the most isolated countries in the world, and not much is clear about the man known as the "Dear Leader."
North Korean legend has it that Kim was born on Mount Paekdu, one of Korea's most cherished sites, in 1942, a birth heralded in the heavens by a pair of rainbows and a brilliant new star.
Soviet records, however, indicate he was born in Siberia, in 1941.
Kim Il Sung, who for years fought for independence from Korea's colonial ruler, Japan, from a base in Russia, emerged as a communist leader after returning to Korea in 1945 after Japan was defeated in World War II.
With the peninsula divided between the Soviet-administered north and the U.S.-administered south, Kim rose to power as North Korea's first leader in 1948 while Syngman Rhee became South Korea's first president.
The North invaded the South in 1950, sparking a war that would last three years, kill millions of civilians and leave the peninsula divided by a Demilitarized Zone that today remains one of the world's most heavily fortified.
In the North, Kim Il Sung meshed Stalinist ideology with a cult of personality that encompassed him and his son. Their portraits hang in every building in North Korea and on the lapels of every dutiful North Korean.
Kim Jong Il, a graduate of Pyongyang's Kim Il Sung University, was 33 when his father anointed him his eventual successor.
Even before he took over as leader, there were signs the younger Kim would maintain — and perhaps exceed — his father's hard-line stance.
South Korea has accused Kim of masterminding a 1983 bombing that killed 17 South Korean officials visiting Burma, now known as Myanmar. In 1987, the bombing of a Korean Air Flight killed all 115 people on board; a North Korean agent who confessed to planting the device said Kim ordered the downing of the plane himself.
Kim Jong Il took over after his father died in 1994, eventually taking the posts of chairman of the National Defense Commission, commander of the Korean People's Army and head of the ruling Worker's Party while his father remained as North Korea's "eternal president."
He faithfully carried out his father's policy of "military first," devoting much of the country's scarce resources to its troops — even as his people suffered from a prolonged famine — and built the world's fifth-largest military.
Kim also sought to build up the country's nuclear arms arsenal, which culminated in North Korea's first nuclear test explosion, an underground blast conducted in October 2006. Another test came in 2009.
Alarmed, regional leaders negotiated a disarmament-for-aid pact that the North signed in 2007 and began implementing later that year.
However, the process continues to be stalled, even as diplomats work to restart negotiations.
North Korea, long hampered by sanctions and unable to feed its own people, is desperate for aid. Flooding in the 1990s that destroyed the largely mountainous country's arable land left millions hungry.
Following the famine, the number of North Koreans fleeing the country through China rose dramatically, with many telling tales of hunger, political persecution and rights abuses that officials in Pyongyang emphatically denied.
Kim often blamed the U.S. for his country's troubles and his regime routinely derides Washington-allied South Korea as a "puppet" of the Western superpower.
U.S. President George W. Bush, taking office in 2002, denounced North Korea as a member of an "axis of evil" that also included Iran and Iraq. He later described Kim as a "tyrant" who starved his people so he could build nuclear weapons.
"Look, Kim Jong Il is a dangerous person. He's a man who starves his people. He's got huge concentration camps. And ... there is concern about his capacity to deliver a nuclear weapon," Bush said in 2005.
Kim was an enigmatic leader. But defectors from North Korea describe him as an eloquent and tireless orator, primarily to the military units that form the base of his support.
The world's best glimpse of the man was in 2000, when the liberal South Korean government's conciliatory "sunshine" policy toward the North culminated in the first-ever summit between the two Koreas and followed with unprecedented inter-Korean cooperation.
A second summit was held in 2007 with South Korea's Roh Moo-hyun.
But the thaw in relations drew to a halt in early 2008 when conservative President Lee Myung-bak took office in Seoul pledging to come down hard on communist North Korea.
Disputing accounts that Kim was "peculiar," former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright characterized Kim as intelligent and well-informed, saying the two had wide-ranging discussions during her visits to Pyongyang when Bill Clinton was U.S. president.
"I found him very much on top of his brief," she said.
Kim cut a distinctive, if oft ridiculed, figure. Short and pudgy at 5-foot-3, he wore platform shoes and sported a permed bouffant. His trademark attire of jumpsuits and sunglasses was mocked in such films as "Team America: World Police," a movie populated by puppets that was released in 2004.
Kim was said to have cultivated wide interests, including professional basketball, cars and foreign films. He reportedly produced several North Korean films as well, mostly historical epics with an ideological tinge.
A South Korean film director claimed Kim even kidnapped him and his movie star wife in the late 1970s, spiriting them back to North Korea to make movies for him for a decade before they managed to escape from their North Korean agents during a trip to Austria.
Kim rarely traveled abroad and then only by train because of an alleged fear of flying, once heading all the way by luxury rail car to Moscow, indulging in his taste for fine food along the way.
One account of Kim's lavish lifestyle came from Konstantin Pulikovsky, a former Russian presidential envoy who wrote the book "The Orient Express" about Kim's train trip through Russia in July and August 2001.
Pulikovsky, who accompanied the North Korean leader, said Kim's 16-car private train was stocked with crates of French wine. Live lobsters were delivered in advance to stations.
A Japanese cook later claimed he was Kim's personal sushi chef for a decade, writing that Kim had a wine cellar stocked with 10,000 bottles, and that, in addition to sushi, Kim ate shark's fin soup — a rare delicacy — weekly.
"His banquets often started at midnight and lasted until morning. The longest lasted for four days," the chef, who goes by the pseudonym Kenji Fujimoto, was quoted as saying.
Kim is believed to have curbed his indulgent ways in recent years and looked slimmer in more recent video footage aired by North Korea's state-run broadcaster.
Kim's marital status wasn't clear but he is believed to have married once and had at least three other companions. He had at least three sons with two women, as well as a daughter by a third.
His eldest son, Kim Jong Nam, 38, is believed to have fallen out of favor with his father after he was caught trying to enter Japan on a fake passport in 2001 saying he wanted to visit Disney's Tokyo resort.
His two other sons by another woman, Kim Jong Chul and Kim Jong Un, are in their 20s. Their mother reportedly died several years ago.
Copyright © 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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DIP
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rip great leader :'(
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Obama is devistated.
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(http://i.imgur.com/HrjL5.gif)
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Obama is devistated.
Truth, since it might take away from some of his gaudy multi million dollar vacation.
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(http://i.imgur.com/HrjL5.gif)
Great Fng show. That was when America was strong.
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He won't recover. Pyongyang in peace.
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He won't recover. Pyongyang in peace.
Screw Pyongyang. we need Poontang!
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I'm sure they are reacting similar again
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Yeah, maybe his bad health is a sign that we should all be exercising much more!
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heart condition huh? is that the name of the covert operation?
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I did some exercise today!!!
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No one will ever beat this golf score
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Just..."Be excellent...to one another" 8)
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oh well
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FuUUUUUhhhhhh...hhk..k.k
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;D
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"Herrrrroooooo"... Goodbye assclown and good riddance.
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;D
;D
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Fuck that communist dictator - I hope he suffered tremendously - that fucker starved his own people to further his evil communist regime.
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surprise cockfag
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Kim saw MB's avatar and the effort to pitch a tent killed him.
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Great Fng show. That was when America was strong.
Camp Programming for Progress!
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'I'm so ronery.'
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Apparently never really recovered after Mars mom left him.
Will north korea finally be allowed to live now?
Or will this fella do the same thing
(http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Kim-Jong-un.jpg)
people are crying on teh streets.
in before "ill" jokes
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They deserve their fate,those brainless monkeys are a shame to human race ::) :-X
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CEEELEBRATION TIMES COME ON!!!
I was litterally dancing to the TV when I heard it in the radio - Cannot wait to see what his retarded son comes up with next.
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It's nice for the world to keep just one communist country, just for fun...
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Someone ship some steroids and clen to the son, he will never be Mr O looking like this.
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awesome video :D oh god red alert very very good,, oh and asian chicks :o :-* :D
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Someone ship some steroids and clen to the son, he will never be Mr O looking like this.
In north korean news kim jong il probably was mr olympia
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I don't know, but this man for some reason doesn't strike me as attractive.
Something about his face makes me imagine that searching for his penis would be like reaching for lint out of a belly button.
(http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Kim-Jong-un.jpg)
"1"
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The song in that video is from Red Alert right? Haven't heard it for like ten years.
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The song in that video is from Red Alert right? Haven't heard it for like ten years.
oh yes, reminds me of good old 1999 times lol nights and nights spent playing this game :D
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The girl who laughs at 1:50... i would hit her!!! :) :) :)
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north korea army is 20 years behind south korea army... in terms of both motivation, training and equipment... NK Soldiers are bribing south korean or chinese borders patrols to escape the shithole.
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(http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Kim-Jong-un.jpg)
Musclecenter looking VERY off season here.....
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I don't know, but this man for some reason doesn't strike me as attractive.
Something about his face makes me imagine that searching for his penis would be like reaching for lint out of a belly button.
hahahaha, I tried posting this Twice but it came out so fucking homo I couldn't. For some reason his face SCREAMS Tiny penis. probably Inverted penis lol. And a lot of people will probably suffer because of it.
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Musclecenter looking VERY off season here.....
post a face photo of MC good quality and I will shop his face onto that fella.
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post a face photo of MC good quality and I will shop his face onto that fella.
Do you think I got MC pictures piled up on my harddisc? :D
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Do you think I got MC pictures piled up on my harddisc? :D
the post was directed to everyone despite the quote ;D
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(http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Kim-Jong-un.jpg)
around 1998-2000 he was in school in switzerland :D
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His lips are so..... babylike
(http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Kim-Jong-un.jpg)
In fact, he's a giant baby.
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Command and Conquer: Red Alert was an awesome game
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Maybe that part of the country takes a turn for the better now.
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Maybe that part of the country takes a turn for the better now.
they d have to be assimilated by south korea, but south korea doesnt want them.
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Kim Jong il?
...more like Kim Jong Dead..get it- Kim Jong Dead!!!
Bwahahahahhahahahaha
Beahahahahahahahah
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Kim Jong il?
...more like Kim Jong Dead..get it- Kim Jong Dead!!!
Bwahahahahhahahahaha
Beahahahahahahahah
Even better: Kim Old Dead....hahahahahahahaha hahha :-X
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Kim Jong il?
...more like Kim Jong Dead..get it- Kim Jong Dead!!!
Bwahahahahhahahahaha
Beahahahahahahahah
in before "ill" jokes
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/026/d/8/Son__I_am_Disappoint_by_SonIAmDisappointPLZ.jpg)
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Ding Dong....................
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Here, Swede!....
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....cause he's used to be ill and now he's dead
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Kim Jong il?
...more like Kim Jong Dead..get it- Kim Jong Dead!!!
Bwahahahahhahahahaha
Beahahahahahahahah
;D
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To go down to an all time low....
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(http://i.imgur.com/BYfrd.jpg)
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Onion headline: 'Kim Jongun privately doubting he's crazy enough to run North Korea.' ;D
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Even better: Kim Old Dead....hahahahahahahaha hahha :-X
How about Kim Jong Still?
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In North Korea visitors were always warmly welcomed
(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4bd81e837f8b9a3f4cf20300/the-10-most-censored-countries-in-the-world.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Vladimir_Putin_with_Kim_Jong-Il-6.jpg)
Interesting to see what route NK will take now
(http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/42-22119423.jpg?w=600&h=400&crop=1)
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People do not care much about his death.
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Fallsview told me to be positive about it... :-\ :-\
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People do not care much about his death.
people dont care about my shop =(
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(http://i.imgur.com/BYfrd.jpg)
hahahahaha terrific ;D ;D That face!
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hahahahaha terrific ;D ;D That face!
thx ;D
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And "Un" actually translates as moron or retard in Dutch !!!
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in before "ill" jokes
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(http://i.imgur.com/BYfrd.jpg)
;D
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isn't he supposed to have had a super high iq?
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Kim jong ill looking a things
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isn't he supposed to have had a super high iq?
Right, and son Un has a super high BMI !
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you wonder how he was able to keep that population so stupid in believing fairytales.
in of these docs on internet an eye doctor went to that place and cured someone on his eyes, all the gratitude of the curing went to the great leader ::)
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you wonder how he was able to keep that population so stupid in believing fairytales.
in of these docs on internet an eye doctor went to that place and cured someone on his eyes, all the gratitude of the curing went to the great leader ::)
They bowed to a picture of kim jong right away illest and started thanking him..
I wonder of the doctor regretted himself
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Kim Jong Il meeting with some world leaders through the times:
(http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0147e0da6f50970b-600wi)
(http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/Clinton-Kim%20Jong%20Il.jpg)
(http://www.eastasiaforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Koizumi_Kim_Jong_il.jpg)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/5/7/1273236427985/Hu-Jintao-and-Kim-Jong-il-005.jpg)
(http://www.dailynk.com/picture/05/22/F.jpg)
(http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/s/mediagallery/2011/8/24/692864/wj241007v.jpg)
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"What kind of cwap is this..?"
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"Aaaahh Dutch cheese Kim rlikey..!"
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They bowed to a picture of kim jong right away illest and started thanking him..
I wonder of the doctor regretted himself
exactly, i would be fucking pissed.
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Kim jong ill looking a things
Looking at food mostly to try to cover up the fact that there has been and most likely still is a famine in North Korea. Fuck him.
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Looking at food mostly to try to cover up the fact that there has been and most likely still is a famine in North Korea. Fuck him.
His son ate it all....
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Funny thing is, to try and start to undo all the damage that he and his father did to North Korea, all the people would have to do is to wake up one morning and say "Fuck it, all we want is decent, respectable lives and our dear leader is fucking us in the ass". There would be absolutely nothing their government could possibly do and they would find themselves hung by the nearest tree that same afternoon.
All that's in the way is the mental trance of worship and ignorance. It's only a mental prison, not a physical one.
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You don't see this kind of obsession even in America !!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3375/4610367867_d965ac3769.jpg)
(http://chairmanoftheboard.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/north_korea_military_parade_2.jpg)
(http://www.thememagazine.com/uploads/images/stories/mass_games/full.jpg)
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You don't see this kind of obsession even in America !!
I swear you're one of the most annoying people on this board. I'm now absolutely convinced you've never even been to America. Your weird obsession with Cold War dynasties is really juvenile and pathetic.
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I swear you're one of the most annoying people on this board. I'm now absolutely convinced you've never even been to America. Your weird obsession with Cold War dynasties is really juvenile and pathetic.
watched strikeforce saunday at they were Three breaks to talk about the damn army, and how they're the best in the world, and freedom here and freedom there.
Why cant they just have One neutral show is teh question. If you want to be in the army then be in the army, but propaganda like that on a show that has Nopthing to do with the army and is FULL of forign fighters shouldn't honestly be allowed imo.
Might be talking out of my ass but I think americans are they only ones that do that shit.
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watched strikeforce saunday at they were Three breaks to talk about the damn army, and how they're the best in the world, and freedom here and freedom there.
Why cant they just have One neutral show is teh question
What has that to do with the discussion? What are you trying to prove?
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What has that to do with the discussion? What are you trying to prove?
giving an example over the patriotic obsession all of us non americans have to endure every single time :) It sneaks its way into events that has Nothing to do with the army or military. National sports I could slightly understand but NOT mma. Its disgusting.. I read an article about american soldiers killing toddlers and then a few hours later I get military bs thrown in my face while watching mma..
what's that called?
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this is not a patriotic obsession, they get told what to do and this time they got told to do that
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giving an example over the patriotic obsession all of us non americans have to endure every single time :)
Judging by something you saw while watching a televised fight..?
Don't pretend that you can judge what america is by one stroke. Some of you people would do yourself a great service by actually travelling to places to experience it for yourself. Your view of things become way more dynamic that way.
EDIT: Stop editing your posts all the time.. really gives away the fact that you don't think things through the first time.
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Judging by something you saw while watching a televised fight..?
Don't pretend that you can judge what america is by one stroke. Some of you people would do yourself a great service by actually travelling to places to experience it for yourself. Your view of things become way more dynamic that way.
Havent pretended to judge america.. Given my view about about something I feel is horrible.. And it's Constant.. Do you think military propaganda should be brought up at non military related events? I have Never noticed this on non american events.. (im sure some country does it at some shows just havent noticed it) and since its constant even in non related events I would call it almost a patriotic obsession?
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Havent pretended to judge america.. Given my view about about something I feel is horrible.. And it's Constant.. Do you think military propaganda should be brought up at non military related events? I have Never noticed this on non american events.. (im sure some country does it at some shows just havent noticed it) and since its constant even in non related events I would call it almost a patriotic obsession?
I refreshed this page as a game to see how many times you'd edit a single post. The above quoted post has been edited at least two-three times within five minutes. What point is there in replying to someone when they keep changing/expanding their opinion?
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I refreshed this page as a game to see how many times you'd edit a single post. The above quoted post has been edited at least two-three times within five minutes. What point is there in replying to someone when they keep changing/expanding their opinion?
I thought it was common knowledge to wait around 3 min before responding to my posts since I always edit shit lol. (two edits)
edit* and im not changing only expanding.. trying to explain better. I type as I think.. I should think for a while and Then type. But this is gb not a report
edit* 2 and I check to make sure no one has responded, and then edit
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I swear you're one of the most annoying people on this board. I'm now absolutely convinced you've never even been to America. Your weird obsession with Cold War dynasties is really juvenile and pathetic.
I've visited quite a few countries.
I've been in New York. That fukin' flag was everywhere. I've never seen anything like that in my life! Some cars had flag stickers on their bumpers, some people had pin flag in their clothes...
In countries where Swede and I come from, you just don't see that. It's confusing for outsider.. you are used to it no doubt. To me it was almost like watching video of North Korea.
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I've visited quite a few countries.
I've been in New York. That fukin' flag was everywhere. I've never seen anything like that in my life! Some cars had flag stickers on their bumpers, some people had pin flag in their clothes...
In countries where Swede and I come from, you just don't see that. It's confusing for outsider.. you are used to it no doubt. To me it was almost like watching video of North Korea.
I almost wish people would be a little bit More patrotic in Sweden. But there's a thing as Too much also. And it tends to make people blind.
People would Not be Ok with bringing up the swedish military on a national event and going on about how gret they are and this and that that's for sure.
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I thought it was common knowledge to wait around 3 min before responding to my posts since I always edit shit lol. (two edits)
edit* and im not changing only expanding.. trying to explain better. I type as I think.. I should think for a while and Then type. But this is gb not a report
edit* 2 and I check to make sure no one has responded, and then edit
Fair enough, I'll keep that in mind.
All I can say really is that I'd encourage you that you at some point in your life start traveling around and the see the world with your own eyes. Get to know people, deal with them, have discussions and whatnot. I guarantee you that you get a thousands time more out of that than sitting behind your computer thinking you've seen it all. I'm not saying that everything you say is necessarily wrong, just that you'd have a different view of it had you been there yourself.
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Fair enough, I'll keep that in mind.
All I can say really is that I'd encourage you that you at some point in your life start traveling around and the see the world with your own eyes. Get to know people, deal with them, have discussions and whatnot. I guarantee you that you get a thousands time more out of that than sitting behind your computer thinking you've seen it all. I'm not saying that everything you say is necessarily wrong, just that you'd have a different view of it had you been there yourself.
Thats one of the issues with events from america. Thats All we're exposed to. military this , military that.. I understand It's not that like 24/7. (and ocf not ALL events) But It's all we see..
This kinda explains my thoughts..
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forced, national grief ::)
if you don't cry hard enough then you'll find yourself doing 25 years hard labour ;D
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I've visited quite a few countries.
I've been in New York. That fukin' flag was everywhere. I've never seen anything like that in my life! Some cars had flag stickers on their bumpers, some people had pin flag in their clothes...
In countries where Swede and I come from, you just don't see that. It's confusing for outsider.. you are used to it no doubt. To me it was almost like watching video of North Korea.
Ha! I'll be damned.. you've actually been to New York. Who woulda guessed.
I am from Northern Europe myself so I do see what you're saying. But I wouldn't agree with your one-sided view of the americans.
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forced, national grief ::)
if you don't cry hard enough then you'll find yourself doing 25 years hard labour ;D
wow...brainwashed
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forced, national grief ::)
if you don't cry hard enough then you'll find yourself doing 25 years hard labour ;D
Expect the same result in this nation should anything ever happen to our Dear leader in Chicago, Harlem, Detroit, Bronx, etc.
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Ha! I'll be damned.. you've actually been to New York. Who woulda guessed.
I am from Northern Europe myself so I do see what you're saying. But I wouldn't agree on your one-sided view of the americans.
gayfury will eventually find this thread and with his response you will notice the problem ;D
what Im really trying to say is I wish I could watch MMA without military talk lol.
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forced, national grief ::)
if you don't cry hard enough then you'll find yourself doing 25 years hard labour ;D
Am I the only noticing that it seems most likely that the cameraman is not from Northern Korea since he towers over everyone else. Can you imagine being starved to the point where it stunts your growth?
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forced, national grief ::)
if you don't cry hard enough then you'll find yourself doing 25 years hard labour ;D
Im soo happy Im not high right now. That shit is SCARY.
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Im soo happy Im not high right now. That shit is SCARY.
The same thing would happen in the USA in chicago, Harlem, Bronx, Detroit, Gary, St. Louis, Memphis, ATL, etc.
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RIP Kim Jong-il. I fucking loved him in The Hangover.
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hahahaha LOL
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(http://www.politician-pictures.com/naked-kim-jong-il.jpg)
(http://worldsstrongestlibrarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/kim-jong-il-puppet-team-america.jpg)
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(http://www.politician-pictures.com/naked-kim-jong-il.jpg)
;D ;D I wonder if these guys even know what circles on the net..
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;D ;D I wonder if these guys even know what circles on the net..
id love to see someone place that pic on a billboard overthere ;D
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shit...
all the great men are gone
saddam, osama, kim...
2012 baby
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shit...
all the great men are gone
saddam, osama, kim...
2012 baby
If 2012 is true you don't live to be over 23, EisenHals. That's way too young... :'( :'(
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Maybe Castro is next. Just sayin.
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hopefully his son will be as great of a leader as he was, RIP :'(
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You like that kind of life, move there troll.
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If 2012 is true you don't live to be over 23, EisenHals. That's way too young... :'( :'(
that's sad
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You like that kind of life, move there troll.
you really respond to EVERYTHING don't you? amazing. I hope for your own sake that a joke, not directed to you, without your name in it. Nothing that related to you what so ever upsets you..
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Havent pretended to judge america.. Given my view about about something I feel is horrible.. And it's Constant.. Do you think military propaganda should be brought up at non military related events? I have Never noticed this on non american events.. (im sure some country does it at some shows just havent noticed it) and since its constant even in non related events I would call it almost a patriotic obsession?
Swede is right about this subject.
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that's sad
Stimmt... :'(
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il never recover
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Who is dead? What did the dead guy previously bench press?
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national grief. insane. crying in the streets while guards walk amng them.
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Who is dead? What did the dead guy previously bench press?
what ever the current 'record' is, double it and that is what the dear leader benched for reps 8)
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I just love north koreas talent in marches etc. So cordinated... look how professional and skillfull.
that's what you get when you can't do anything else but.
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national grief. insane. crying in the streets while guards walk amng them.
Yeah, cos whoever cries the least gets shot.
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edit* I wasnt first
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I just love north koreas talent in marches etc. So cordinated... look how professional and skillfull.
that's what you get when you can't do anything else but.
Almost as cool as page 2
Apparently never really recovered after Mars mom left him.
Will north korea finally be allowed to live now?
Or will this fella do the same thing
(http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Kim-Jong-un.jpg)
people are crying on teh streets.
in before "ill" jokes
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Almost as cool as page 2
grow up, you baby ;D
Anyway, forward a little bit to see chinese women march... I'm just weak to asian women who have that look.. :P
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grow up, you baby ;D
Anyway, forward a little bit to see chinese women march... I'm just weak to asian women who have that look.. :P
I take my posting seriously negga ;D
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sic semper...
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Praying my ass gh prices wont rise up cuz that fucker is dead.....heartattack my ass , i smell US CIA work.. ;)