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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Pet shop boys on August 04, 2013, 01:49:01 PM
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For those of you who have tried legal stuff over the counter Natural Testosterone Booster ? which one would you say helps a bit?
This one has good reviews online
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41MgKHYa5aL.jpg)
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You know what really boosts test? Test. I am pretty sure that all of this stuff is bunk. If you look at the ingredients, I am sure that it is a "proprietary blend" of ZMA, tribulus, fucking golden rod (WTF), maybe some deer antlers and some shark cartilage.
I have tried it all.
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And here's what you get -
Vitamin E as d Alpha Tocopheryl Succinate 30 IU 100
Vitamin B6 as Pyridoxine HCI 8 mg 400
Vitamin B12 as Cyanocobalamin 48 mcg 800
Zinc as Zinc Amino Acid Chelate 1.5 mg 10
High T Proprietary Blend 900 mg*
Testofen Fenugreek Extract 50% Fenusides
Trigonella Foenum Graceum Seed Extract 50 % Saponins
Eurycoma Longifolia Extract 4:1
Rhodiola Rosea Extract 3% Salidrosides
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A AKG) 2:1
* Daily Value not established.
These natural test boosters (atleast the ones that aren't prohormones disguised as something else) are usually banking on the Zinc in the product to provide a boost in well being. Sometimes folks are are zinc deficient and adding it in does help a bit.
My advice is try chelated zinc or cheap ZMA product and see if it improves anything, after that just forget it. Most of these things do nothing or very little in relation to the cash outlay. A raise in testosterone of a few nanograms isn't going to do anything.
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You know what really boosts test? Test. I am pretty sure that all of this stuff is bunk. If you look at the ingredients, I am sure that it is a "proprietary blend" of ZMA, tribulus, fucking golden rod (WTF), maybe some deer antlers and some shark cartilage.
I have tried it all.
Thanks.
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And here's what you get -
Vitamin E as d Alpha Tocopheryl Succinate 30 IU 100
Vitamin B6 as Pyridoxine HCI 8 mg 400
Vitamin B12 as Cyanocobalamin 48 mcg 800
Zinc as Zinc Amino Acid Chelate 1.5 mg 10
High T Proprietary Blend 900 mg*
Testofen Fenugreek Extract 50% Fenusides
Trigonella Foenum Graceum Seed Extract 50 % Saponins
Eurycoma Longifolia Extract 4:1
Rhodiola Rosea Extract 3% Salidrosides
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A AKG) 2:1
* Daily Value not established.
These natural test boosters (atleast the ones that aren't prohormones disguised as something else) are usually banking on the Zinc in the product to provide a boost in well being. Sometimes folks are are zinc deficient and adding it in does help a bit.
My advice is try chelated zinc or cheap ZMA product and see if it improves anything, after that just forget it. Most of these things do nothing or very little in relation to the cash outlay. A raise in testosterone of a few nanograms isn't going to do anything.
Thanks.
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I was wondering cause a lot of guys over 35 have been trying it HT boosters etc, lately.....This one claims to boost GH as well .
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5147OrkDgeL.jpg)
and its about $40.00
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Best test booster = hrt or PED.
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LOL @ "humano". It's like GH15 approved!
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Best test booster = hrt or PED.
Yes, and it's a lot cheaper.
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Best test booster = hrt or PED.
I know , but they're illegal, and expensive .... I was curious as if any of these test booster would help a bit say,working out, recovering not a miracle mass builder or something.
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LOL @ "humano". It's like GH15 approved!
It's by Labrada one of the most respected brands in the industry.
Not that I don't doubt its claims.
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This one has outstanding reviews over Amazon.com
I wonder if any getBigger has heard of it.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41AN1W6NlLL.jpg)
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Testosterone boosters are a bunch of baloney. Best test booster is to eat healthy, stay active, and try not to grow old.
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I know , but they're illegal, and expensive .... I was curious as if any of these test booster would help a bit say,working out, recovering not a miracle mass builder or something.
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HRT is legal. My levels were low and they just put me on injections, and Im only 28.
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Humanofort is fertile egg yolk extract from Romania (seriously). It seems to be like Tribulus were someone found some obscure backwater study to attach to it. Also this study was at much higher doses than the manufacturer recommends, something like 6 x the recommended dose.
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I was wondering cause a lot of guys over 35 have been trying it HT boosters etc, lately.....This one claims to boost GH as well .
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5147OrkDgeL.jpg)
and its about $40.00
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Typical bulldust for naive customers,GH supposed to be WHAT ?
Clinically (read cynically) tested, right ;) no name of medical institute ;D
If is so effective (cheap) why is not used in hospitals & replacement for
expensive/real HGH 8)
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So this Higher test booster ExtenZe' ...has the same Possible side effects of steroids such as acne, hair loss, hair growth on the face in women, aggressiveness, irritability, and or rapid heart beat, dizziness, blurred vision etc.......
But what about the benefits ??
(http://pics1.ds-static.com/prodimg/458057/300.JPG)
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these products are all placebo's, marketed to people in the dark about real testosterone!
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:)
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Hit "Like" on a bunch of nearly-naked sites on FB. The small views during the day on your feed will boost T levels.
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Test Boost
(http://bootyoftheday.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/loungin-big-booty-latina-2.jpg)
(http://bootyoftheday.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/katy-karson-bouncing-booty.gif)
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getting leaner will increase your test levels, mother nature at its best.
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D-Asparctic Acid
M-Sten RX from Ironmag Labs!
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ZMA isn't bad.
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Wild yam extract seems to be the key to solving this problem.
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It's too bad that people get sucked into these scams.
Some big and ripped up Mr. O, or even Lee Labrada himself...
I remember way back actually thinking I could look like a Pro bodybuilder by working out hard and heavy.
All lies.
Growth Hormone boosters are even more of a scam than test boosters. But, people do get rich preying on the naive, innocent, un-suspecting and un-educated. One day, you will run into someone who is "on" and then you may get fortunate enough to see him when he is "off" ~ it will all become painfully clear, those "overnight" gains.... wondering why you bust your ass and spend your whole paycheck on garbage supplements.
Nothing wrong with working out hard in the gym. The way a juiced up bodybuilder works out should be much different from a "natty"
Live and learn.
I think "Best Natural Testosterone Booster" should be considered more of an oxymoron at best ~
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i don't give much credit to supplements, but this thing got me back on track when my libido was lover than ever, not kidding, could only get it hard to around 75%, and when i ejaculated i was totally exhausted, felt dizzy and high, was like that for a month or so, after using this i was ok again after a week or two, this is the only thing i would use if i had to again...
(http://fullsize.musculardevelopment.com/876436000248.jpg)
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from what i gather DAA (D-Asparctic Acid) should help, but honestly i haven't tried it
also, back when i was natural, tribulus testerris actually did the trick for me - in terms of well-being, very deep sleep, relaxation and an INSANE libido
just don't get the expensive 'brand' names, you can get it really cheap
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Owning Getbiggers
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Owning Getbiggers
In that case, everyday, BigCyp must feel like he's on a constant hormone buffet.
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In that case, everyday, BigCyp must feel like he's on a constant hormone buffet.
Haha, yeah he's doing pretty well, easy going guy with a NGAF mentality.
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In that case, everyday, BigCyp must feel like he's on a constant hormone buffet.
;)
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Not typing "woooshhh" after each post will probably raise your test a bit.....
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I think d-aspartic acid works. A little arginine before bed doesn't hurt, and you should make sure to get some zinc and B vitamins in your diet although an extra helping doesn't really do much.
When I finally came off all the juice I had a requisition form and got blood work done pretty much every other week. I wasn't taking any pharmaceuticals until a couple of months in but I started at 0 endogenous test and I'm pretty sure the DAA helped. Taking nothing whatsoever my test levels were stagnant. Boners and test levels rose with the DAA. But then I started taking alfa follitropin and HCG (real HCG, not Chinese fake shit) and then it sky rocketed.
I had a couple vials of Chinese HCG and it did fuck all. Two different companies. I took some stuff from a Canadian pharmacy and LH, FSH and test shot up. If you really need a test booster then go to the doctor and get fertility meds. I'm convinced that the shit on the market is either underdosed, all together bunk or just damaged from the heat and transit. Peptides are fragile. I left some HCG out for a few days and felt nothing from it when I was taking 1,000iu per shot. 1,000iu of a newly reconstituted vial and I would get nausea a few minutes afterwards.
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I think d-aspartic acid works.
Yeah that stuff might be useful in certain situations, like the one you had. As an add-on to
more conventional fertility meds. It wasn't "invented" by any supp company, they just came across
the Italian product Dadavit, made by a pharma company in Italy.
http://www.pharmaguida.com/eng/dadavit.asp
L-Dopa might be somewhat useful too, either the pure stuff or Mucuna Pruriens extract.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18973898
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go to thailand and buy an amp of sustanone. There its legal, over the counter and considered natural by the people ;)
And then get the Sly treatment on my way back at the airport...
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Hit "Like" on a bunch of nearly-naked sites on FB. The small views during the day on your feed will boost T levels.
My question is not sexual "libido" related....
My sexual drive is perfect...im just looking for that "edge" for working out longer, more energy, pump,resistance, recovering faster,etc....
so far everything seems either too good to be true or too good to be 'legal"
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from what i gather DAA (D-Asparctic Acid) should help, but honestly i haven't tried it
also, back when i was natural, tribulus testerris actually did the trick for me - in terms of well-being, very deep sleep, relaxation and an INSANE libido
just don't get the expensive 'brand' names, you can get it really cheap
This.
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What about this one? I want to diet down in Sept and keep my stamina and lean muscle mass intact .....
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Just a stupid, really dumb question, but... why do you want to "boost" your testosterone -"naturally" or not- in the first place?
You realize men lived for a looong time without needing any "testosterone booster" right?
Too much competition, stress, in the "modern" era? Not being able to cope with an overwhelming amount of daily frustrations? Going that route is equivalent of doing drugs/alcohol/insert random destructive addiction to cope with something because your thought process/family support arent strong enough.
Decreasing testosterone levels in your 30s is a normal biological process. You re not supposed to act like a teen when you re in your 30s. You re suposed to be wiser, calmer, quieter, to take care of kids and family for example, and to hold a job without blowing a gasket every other week.
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Just a stupid, really dumb question, but... why do you want to "boost" your testosterone -naturally or not- in the first place?
You realize men lived for a looong time without needing any "testosterone booster" right?
Too much competition, stress, in the "modern" era? Not being able to cope with an overwhelming amount of daily frustrations? Going that route is equivalent of doing drugs/alcohol/insert random destructive addiction to cope with something because your thought process/family support arent strong enough.
Decreasing testosterone levels in your 30s is a normal biological process. You re not supposed to act like a teen when you re in your 30s. You re suposed to be wiser, calmer, quieter, to take care of kids and family for example, and to hold a job without blowing a gasket every other week.
I am wiser, calmer,etc But as a bodybuilder, you want to keep muscle mass ,skin tight, and low body fat (even when you get older) ..... So is not an stupid question.
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Testicle painting with iodine. Google it.
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I am wiser, calmer,etc But as a bodybuilder, you want to keep muscle mass ,skin tight, and low body fat (even when you get older) ..... So is not an stupid question.
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more like you re using it as an anti depressant, as higher test acts as an anti depressant, makes you feel powerful/euphoric. But you re probably not even aware of what is truly going on in your brain/body when using it.
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from what i gather DAA (D-Asparctic Acid) should help, but honestly i haven't tried it
also, back when i was natural, tribulus testerris actually did the trick for me - in terms of well-being, very deep sleep, relaxation and an INSANE libido
just don't get the expensive 'brand' names, you can get it really cheap
That's useful, thanks.
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For those of you who have tried legal stuff over the counter Natural Testosterone Booster ? which one would you say helps a bit?
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Best testosterone boosters:
1. Having lots of sex with different women. If not possible- watch plenty porn
2. Have success in life and become an alpha male... ;D
3. Plenty sleep
4. Avoid starvation diets
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fella supplements Aree FILT!!!
testoserweona
trenbolonie
acetato
all these raise test levels not the scambag flit layn nortmon filts
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"for god shake", LOL!
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This.
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This.
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You'll need a few spares of this:
(http://www.dermaharmony.com/images/detox/humanliver.jpg)
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:)
Really cute...thanks! :-*
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Get lots of sleep and don't force your body to wake up at the fucking crack of dawn every morning and disrupt your deep sleep cycle like modern society expects you to
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You'll need a few spares of this:
(http://www.dermaharmony.com/images/detox/humanliver.jpg)
It doesn't put stress in your liver as conventional steroids do......
You can ever drink the occasional beer on weekends and remain healthy.
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http://www.steroid.com/Methyltrienolone.php
Methyltrienolone (MT) is a very potent, reasonably toxic, non-aromatizing steroid. Ok. Lets go over those three points again. First of all, MT is potent. It binds so strongly to the AR (androgen receptor) that it is often used in studies on other androgens to measure how strongly they bind. In other words, this stuff binds onto the AR receptor so strongly that it is pretty much the benchmark for that quality. If youve read my profile on Trenbolone Acetate (TA), youll note that I said TA is the most potent injectable weapon in our arsenal with regards to ability to bind to the Androgen receptor. Thats still true, because this particular compound is not in our arsenal, and its not injectable... its simply the oral version of TA (i.e. it is Trenbolone which has undergone modification to become orally active, via the addition of a 17-alph-methyl group). So why is it important that this stuff binds so tightly to the AR? Well, Androgen Receptors are found in both fat cells as well as muscle cells(8); they act on the AR in muscle cells to promote growth, and in the fat cells to affect fat burning.(9)(6) The stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose (fat)tissue(9)(5). Unfortunately, that strong binding doesnt also automatically mean that it will elicit the strongest possible anabolic response, nor that the weakest bind will elicit a weak anabolic response. Anadrol (oxymetholone) has the weakest bind to the AR possible (too low to be measured), and it produces a profound anabolic response, for example. Dianabol is simarly low, and produces a very good anabolic response. ARs are found in both muscle tissue as well as adipose tissue. When a muscles AR is stimulated, it can induce hypertrophy. When an adipose tissues AR is stimulated, through various related mechanisms, fat is lost. This is a gross oversimplification. Whatever. All we need to know is that when you have a steroid that binds to the AR, it builds muscle and burns fat. And a steroid that binds very tightly to the AR will stimulate a lot of muscle synthesis and burn a lot of fat. A good example of this is Trenbolone. And since I mentioned Trenbolone, its worth further mentioning that MT is basically a 17aa (oral) version of (injectable) Trenbolone. AR binding and AR stimulation is not the only mechanism which stimulates anabolism, however. It is important to note that dbol has a very low AR binding ability and A50 has an AR binding ability which is too low to even measure! Both are very potent oral steroids, though. So while its important, AR binding/stimulation is not the end all & be all of anabolism, although it is an important part. Dont be fooled by the anabolic/androgenic ratio of this (or any steroid), either. The anabolic/androgenic ratio of MT would suggest that it produces 120(+)x the anabolic and 60(+)x androgenic effect of Testosterone (which has a score of 100 and 100 respectively). If one were able to get a bottle of this stuff, I believe it would be best used as part of a cutting cycle, stacked with some injectables (testosterone, etc... ), but certainly no other orals. Its just too toxic. Negma (the French company who brought Parabolan to the market, and then discontinued it) never pushed MT to gain approval as a commercially released item, since their original studies showed it to be highly toxic. Methyltrienolone is, of course, a 19Nor compound (as is Trenbolone)...Thus, it will effect your sexual drive and performance in a similar way to both Tren and Nandrolone, meaning that Temporary Impotence and/or a lack of libido is highly possible (aka Tren-Dick or Deca Dick)(10). Another problem with MT is that it is a progestin, and binds shockingly well to the progesterone receptor also (PgR) (3). As we know, progestins amplify estrogenic effects of Aromatizing drugs. Although MT doesnt aromatize, you will still need to worry about its ability to cause side-effects by amplifying the estrogenic issues caused by the other compounds you may be taking. How toxic is this stuff? Well, it was never commercially marketed for use in humans, and has been relegated to Steroid-Purgatory, to be used only in studies. Id probably rate it on around the same level as taking very high doses of halotestin or methyltestosterone. And Id probably recommend that people keep doses of this product very low, much lower than recommended doses typical of the other 2 compounds I just mentioned (i.e. 500-750mcgs/day, for not much longer than 3-4 weeks). I have had the good fortune to discuss this product with the owner of an Underground Lab, and he had given out several samples of this stuff to athletes he knew, and they all kept records and got regular bloodwork done. People who were in the 2mg/day range developed highly elevated liver enzymes and Jaundice (yellowing of the eyes and skin). They all recovered, and through trial and error, a 500-750mcg dose was found to be (*relatively) safe, and (*roughly) as effective as 150-225mgs of Trenbolone Acetate. For women, a possible side effect of MT is Virilization (development of male sexual characteristics), which is profound with this stuff (11), so it is entirely off limits for women to use. You may want to take milk thistle with this compound, should you decide to try it, as well as (320mgs/day), ALA (500mgs per meal) and try some Pygeum Africanum (Permixon, the liposterolic extract of Serenoa)... stuff will all protect either your prostate or liver... in one study, it inhibited competitively the binding of Methyltrienolone to the cytosolic receptor of the rat prostate. Youll still need to get blood work done, avoid other orals (this includes drinking, or anything else which could tax your liver), and monitor your health closely. This isnt a drug for novices, clearly, and is probably only useful for pre-contest bodybuilders. Ive only seen MT available from one Underground Lab, and it came in a 50ml bottle, which was 1mg/ml, and was priced at $100. This translates to roughly 100 doses, at a reasonable cost of fifty-cents per dose. And since you would never want to run this particular drug for longer than 3-4 weeks at a time (maybe it would have use in the last few weeks before a bodybuilding competition, but not much else), youll get to use one bottle in 4 different cycles. That makes it no less dangerous, just reasonably cheap.
Just sayin'
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It doesn't put stress in your liver as conventional steroids do......
You can ever drink the occasional beer on weekends and remain healthy.
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do you sell this fake steroid by any chance
whoooooooooooooooooooosh
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For those of you who have tried legal stuff over the counter Natural Testosterone Booster ? which one would you say helps a bit?
This one has good reviews online
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41MgKHYa5aL.jpg)
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take 500 mg of sustenon 250 each week you will be horny and build muscle dont waste your money on this garbage.
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do you sell this fake steroid by any chance
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I don't sell supps of any type, I just started trying this particular, over the counter formula.... Friends that have used it looked lean and kept their strength while on it .... So I thought I could share and hear some comments, based on people that knows about it oo have tried it .
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538439;image)
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http://www.steroid.com/Methyltrienolone.php
Just sayin'
Good article, thanks for sharing.
I guess keeping a moderate/low dosage for a month or so with a clean diet,and lots of water should be safe and help you attain Arnold 1980 like shape .
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Good article, thanks for sharing.
I guess keeping a moderate/low dosage for a month or so with a clean diet,and lots of water should be safe and help you attain Arnold 1980 like shape .
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That's not it.
Jeez...you don't even know what you're putting in your own body.
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You taking that?
http://prohormonedb.com/view-ingredients.asp?n=7a-Methyl-estra-4-en-3%2C17-dione+%28Mentabolan%2C+MENT%2C+7-MENT%29&i=215
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/192303-mentabolan.html
I hate how they put any label they want on this stuff.
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One of the reasons that I stopped taking any of the 19-nor stuff in my 20's (when it first came out) was because of the libido/ED issues. Stuff just flat killed it.
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One of the reasons that I stopped taking any of the 19-nor stuff in my 20's (when it first came out) was because of the libido/ED issues. Stuff just flat killed it.
Haven't looked through the whole thread but op wanted to boost test and is now taking something that will lower it to zero in due time. ;D
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Natural Testosterone Booster ?
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Humanofort is fertile egg yolk extract from Romania (seriously). It seems to be like Tribulus were someone found some obscure backwater study to attach to it. Also this study was at much higher doses than the manufacturer recommends, something like 6 x the recommended dose.
Humanofort is a pharmaceutically standardized and purified chicken embryo extract that contains various natural growth factors (not to be confused with growth hormones), and amino acids in a endogenous form. These growth factors are made of clusters of low-molecular weight oligopeptides, (An oligopeptide consists of between 2 and 20 amino acids and includes dipeptides, tripeptides, tetrapeptides, pentapeptides, etc.) which are quickly and easily assimilated and transported into the body to their specific receptor sites.
This oligopeptides pass intact through the gut into the blood stream, mainly by pinocytosis. This peptides are characterized as an adoptogenic on (i.e a product that helps to modify the equilibrium of hormones secreted by the adrenal cortex). This adoptogenic activity is a consequence of fine-tuning exerted by the growth factors from the standardized oligopeptides extract on the adrenal cortex. Due its mechanism of action (regulation by the growth factors in a paracrine manner of adrenal cortex activity) the growth factors from the oligopeptides helps to modify the equilibrium of all the hormones secreted by the adrenal glands.
Also these peptides helps to stimulate the division of mature cells and significantly helps to decrease the mortality of older cells, and assist the body in normalizing numerous cellular processes by activating the fibroblast growth factor receptors. When this occurs, healing is accelerated and a variety of cellular processes are normalized/ stabilized.
Humanofort helps bring balance to the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal axis. This assists the entire endocrine system in achieving homeostasis and efficient operation. Next, the endocrine system secretes hormones at optimum levels resulting in improved cellular signaling. Improved cellular signaling results in cellular rejuvenation and ultimately translates to optimal health longevity and restoration of youthful vitality to the body.
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Perhaps, but my experience has been that a lot of successful men seem to have higher testosterone levels, and exhibit more Alpha characteristics, yet still sleep fewer hours than others.
Some people need less sleep than others; some sleep fewer hours but are heavy sleepers and in only a few hours get all quality deep sleep
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Some people need less sleep than others; some sleep fewer hours but are heavy sleepers and in only a few hours get all quality deep sleep
X2.
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Humanofort is a pharmaceutically standardized and purified chicken embryo extract that contains various natural growth factors (not to be confused with growth hormones), and amino acids in a endogenous form. These growth factors are made of clusters of low-molecular weight oligopeptides, (An oligopeptide consists of between 2 and 20 amino acids and includes dipeptides, tripeptides, tetrapeptides, pentapeptides, etc.) which are quickly and easily assimilated and transported into the body to their specific receptor sites.
This oligopeptides pass intact through the gut into the blood stream, mainly by pinocytosis. This peptides are characterized as an adoptogenic on (i.e a product that helps to modify the equilibrium of hormones secreted by the adrenal cortex). This adoptogenic activity is a consequence of fine-tuning exerted by the growth factors from the standardized oligopeptides extract on the adrenal cortex. Due its mechanism of action (regulation by the growth factors in a paracrine manner of adrenal cortex activity) the growth factors from the oligopeptides helps to modify the equilibrium of all the hormones secreted by the adrenal glands.
Also these peptides helps to stimulate the division of mature cells and significantly helps to decrease the mortality of older cells, and assist the body in normalizing numerous cellular processes by activating the fibroblast growth factor receptors. When this occurs, healing is accelerated and a variety of cellular processes are normalized/ stabilized.
Humanofort helps bring balance to the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal axis. This assists the entire endocrine system in achieving homeostasis and efficient operation. Next, the endocrine system secretes hormones at optimum levels resulting in improved cellular signaling. Improved cellular signaling results in cellular rejuvenation and ultimately translates to optimal health longevity and restoration of youthful vitality to the body.
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One of the reasons that I stopped taking any of the 19-nor stuff in my 20's (when it first came out) was because of the libido/ED issues. Stuff just flat killed it.
You were 20 when deca first came out?? :o
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You were 20 when deca first came out?? :o
Gaspari Novedex XT used to be good before it got banned.
(http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/item/204/112/536/novedex-xt-testosterone-booster-anti-aromatase-1d668.jpg)
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This post is garbage.
Man lived for a "looong time" without knowing the germ theory of disease but I wouldn't want to go back to before we did, or ignore it completely. There are countless examples of better living through medical and technological advances that we can all go think of. Perhaps testosterone enhancement is one of them. Who are you to say otherwise?
Comparing testosterone to physiologically addictive substances is also idiotic. As is talk of "blowing a gasket every week." I doubt anyone taking TRT doses, or even higher, is suddenly going to turn into the kind of raging maniac we see on after-school specials about steroid use.
The older men in my family ended up sleeping alone, had a belly and were cranky old ladies by 60. At 50 I was feeling like my elders looked when I was younger. I went to my Doc who said lets do a blood test for Testosterone. BINGO. I was 209 on a scale of 350 being low and 850 high. I have been on HRT since. (23 years straight) Flat belly, vascular, muscled, great zest, pole vault out of bed each morning, good for up to 3 ejaculations a day. Also won a few BB contests along the way. At 70 had an over sexed girlfriend 31 years younger. I kept up. Now into 2nd year marriage to a lady 18 years younger. I have high blood pressure controlled by meds. Just had a complete physical and passed with flying colors. There is a 4 mile hiking trail with a 1250' steep hill in the middle we take up to 4 times a week. Leaving for the hike in about 2 hours. I will knock one off just before.
Would I trade this in for my original natural destiny? You answer.
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Mr. MB sounds like quite the stud.
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Mr. MB sounds like quite the stud.
fuck off
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Bran Flakes Cereal is much better than any of your "ZMA Supplements"
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Gaspari Novedex XT used to be good before it got banned.
(http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/item/204/112/536/novedex-xt-testosterone-booster-anti-aromatase-1d668.jpg)
I tried some superdrol once and used the Gaspari Novadex after. I had better results with the Novadex.
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Gaspari Novedex XT used to be good before it got banned.
(http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/item/204/112/536/novedex-xt-testosterone-booster-anti-aromatase-1d668.jpg)
Don't they have a stronger formula available though?
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Don't hey have a stronger formula available though?
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Gaspari Novedex XT used to be good before it got banned.
(http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/item/204/112/536/novedex-xt-testosterone-booster-anti-aromatase-1d668.jpg)
Does any of that stuff really work? <confused>
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Does any of that stuff really work? <confused>
It made Rich rich, that's all.
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Been cycling on and off since 2003, I tired just about everything in between my medium to long breaks I had. I can tell you that the only real test booster I believe in is HCG.
Once I was taking plenty of Tribulus, ZMA...etc, nothign worked, took one shot of HCG and boom things kicked off big time and managed to maintain this after my HCG course.
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The best results are by combining an over the counter Aromatase Inhibitor like PES Erase or Triazole with a test booster like HCGgenerate and Vitrex. Also brief cycles with DAA mixed with an AI work well. There are several legit blood work showing test levels being boosted in the high range from this. Not supraphysiological levels like 500 mg of test, but enough to make some decent natty progress. I have have done several of these cycles and have gotten a harder, fuller look. I'm 51 and on these cycles, libido is great, no hair loss . Don't have any need for HRT yet, even though I cycled juice in the 80's and early 90's. The only reason I don't juice now is that I have no interest in suppressing my hormonal output. I tend to believe , for health reasons, that the body responds better on the cellular level to your own testosterone than with synthetic test. I also believe the body prefers it's own GH rather than artificial sources, which is why cycles of gh Peptide 2 and Ipamorelin at moderate doses can be beneficial. In other words, I prefer to enhance my own bodies secretion of anabolic hormones rather than replace..and thereby suppress my own production. I'm able to maintain a fairly hard 200 pounds at 5'9". To be extremely lean, i'd have to go below about 180 pounds.
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The best results are by combining an over the counter Aromatase Inhibitor like PES Erase or Triazole with a test booster like HCGgenerate and Vitrex. Also brief cycles with DAA mixed with an AI work well. There are several legit blood work showing test levels being boosted in the high range from this. Not supraphysiological levels like 500 mg of test, but enough to make some decent natty progress. I have have done several of these cycles and have gotten a harder, fuller look. I'm 51 and on these cycles, libido is great, no hair loss . Don't have any need for HRT yet, even though I cycled juice in the 80's and early 90's. The only reason I don't juice now is that I have no interest in suppressing my hormonal output. I tend to believe , for health reasons, that the body responds better on the cellular level to your own testosterone than with synthetic test. I also believe the body prefers it's own GH rather than artificial sources, which is why cycles of gh Peptide 2 and Ipamorelin at moderate doses can be beneficial. In other words, I prefer to enhance my own bodies secretion of anabolic hormones rather than replace..and thereby suppress my own production. I'm able to maintain a fairly hard 200 pounds at 5'9". To be extremely lean, i'd have to go below about 180 pounds.
What does "HCGgenerate and Vitrex" contain that isn't found in the usual constellation of bullshit in ZMA/Tribulus/Golden Rod Extract (oh brother)?
Also, give us some bloodwork numbers of where your test was before and after this stack. Thanks!
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Actually those products may not be much better than several others out there. I mentioned them because I have noticed results from them. The problem with any of the test boosters..is if you find one that actually works..after a few weeks, your increased test starts to aromatize into estrogen and you get softer and fatter. Plus the increased estrogen stops your test from going any higher. That's why combining an anit-estrogenic supplement gets around that issue. D Aspartic acid has plenty of studies showing large test increases after only 12 days. Personally I didn't do any bloodwork since my excellent libido, pump, hardness and fat loss were good enough proof for me. I did see blood work from a guy at my gym who combines Triazole with Erase and he had a huge jump in test. He wasn't trying to sell me the stuff, so I didn't have any reason to doubt him. There may be many products that work. My point was that you get good results from stacking a test booster with an Aromatase Inhibitor.
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I can categorically confirm via blood works that combination of D-Aspartic acid (10g daily) + Arimidex 1mg EOD raised my natty test levels from 19.4nmol/l to 26.2 nmol/l.
I had blood works done on two separate occasions and both times blood works confirmed this to be the case.
However, the arimidex completely killed off my libido (which in weird way I actually didn't mind because it meant I didn't have to deal with women or even crave sex so it was nice and liberating feeling. I mean if you just don't get horny, you don't have a problem or even miss sex. I mean it got to the point where I actually thought that the notion of sex was "disgusting" and like if I came across porn, I just didn't want to watch it and thought of it as ''gross".
Having said that the increase testosterone levels from 19.4 nmol/l to 26.2 nmol/l made no difference whatsoever to muscle gained.
However it did make a massive difference to amount of fat burned, vascularity and tightness.
At on point I upped the Arimidex to 1mg daily (this is without taking any test or gear) and for pure rippedness the results were awesome.
People were actually like "are you on something dude".
Arimidex is a wonderfull drug if it wasn't for bone pain (not that bad really), loss of libido and some hair thinning. Although when I stopped the dex my hair came back to full thickness no problem.
I actually like the side effects that Arimidex gives you, somehow it makes you not have emotions and become totally stable.
Also the Arimidex totally improved my poker and gambling, the lack of emotion made me totally make better decisions.
This is gods honest truth, I am not making this up.
That's how it effected me.
PS Edit: Oh and I forgot it totally makes your skin white as a ghost like totally pale kinda even more so than Anabolic Halo.
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Actually those products may not be much better than several others out there. I mentioned them because I have noticed results from them. The problem with any of the test boosters..is if you find one that actually works..after a few weeks, your increased test starts to aromatize into estrogen and you get softer and fatter. Plus the increased estrogen stops your test from going any higher. That's why combining an anit-estrogenic supplement gets around that issue. D Aspartic acid has plenty of studies showing large test increases after only 12 days. Personally I didn't do any bloodwork since my excellent libido, pump, hardness and fat loss were good enough proof for me. I did see blood work from a guy at my gym who combines Triazole with Erase and he had a huge jump in test. He wasn't trying to sell me the stuff, so I didn't have any reason to doubt him. There may be many products that work. My point was that you get good results from stacking a test booster with an Aromatase Inhibitor.
Thanks. I actually find it just as fascinating that something like PES actually does something; I am so inured to the notion that all supps are junk. I have in the past tried trib and ZMA and haven't gotten much out of it. Might try some D-aspartic.
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Gaspari Novedex XT used to be good before it got banned.
True! Lowered estroidols (estrogen) enough that natural test rose. I did blood tests with my bro in law Cardiologist to see if it worked. I was taking a paltry 70mg of Test gel weekly for andropause and was tested at 650 T and 65 E prior to Gaspari. Six weeks later using XT I was 1150 T and 45 E. Amazing, then it was taken off the market.
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I can categorically confirm via blood works that combination of D-Aspartic acid (10g daily) + Arimidex 1mg EOD raised my natty test levels from 19.4nmol/l to 26.2 nmol/l.
I had blood works done on two separate occasions and both times blood works confirmed this to be the case.
However, the arimidex completely killed off my libido (which in weird way I actually didn't mind because it meant I didn't have to deal with women or even crave sex so it was nice and liberating feeling. I mean if you just don't get horny, you don't have a problem or even miss sex. I mean it got to the point where I actually thought that the notion of sex was "disgusting" and like if I came across porn, I just didn't want to watch it and thought of it as ''gross".
Having said that the increase testosterone levels from 19.4 nmol/l to 26.2 nmol/l made no difference whatsoever to muscle gained.
However it did make a massive difference to amount of fat burned, vascularity and tightness.
At on point I upped the Arimidex to 1mg daily (this is without taking any test or gear) and for pure rippedness the results were awesome.
People were actually like "are you on something dude".
Arimidex is a wonderfull drug if it wasn't for bone pain (not that bad really), loss of libido and some hair thinning. Although when I stopped the dex my hair came back to full thickness no problem.
I actually like the side effects that Arimidex gives you, somehow it makes you not have emotions and become totally stable.
Also the Arimidex totally improved my poker and gambling, the lack of emotion made me totally make better decisions.
This is gods honest truth, I am not making this up.
That's how it effected me.
PS Edit: Oh and I forgot it totally makes your skin white as a ghost like totally pale kinda even more so than Anabolic Halo.
Thanks.
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True! Lowered estroidols (estrogen) enough that natural test rose. I did blood tests with my bro in law Cardiologist to see if it worked. I was taking a paltry 70mg of Test gel weekly for andropause and was tested at 650 T and 65 E prior to Gaspari. Six weeks later using XT I was 1150 T and 45 E. Amazing, then it was taken off the market.
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getting leaner will increase your test levels, mother nature at its best.
Getting really lean killed my libido.
Gaining a bit
more fat now and seems to be improving.
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Ive been trying the one sold at walmart as some fruit punch drink during lunch my strengh has increased and a bit of size and shoulder separation also...
people won't believe that's all I'm taking
(http://www.sixstarpro.com/products/testosteronebooster_powder/images/bg_testbooster_lrg.png)
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I tried some superdrol once and used the Gaspari Novadex after. I had better results with the Novadex.
Same here except it wasn't superdrol I used; I think it was epistane or some other OTC steroid. But yeah noticed more from the XT.
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Animal stack combiné with animal test should push your test thru the roof
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Does any of that stuff really work? <confused>
IMO this original stuff did work. They probably have since banned it or changed the formula. :(
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The Animal Stak is pretty good. But come on, be serious before you waste all your money for testboosters and maybe kill your liver with some prohormones you should do a cycle. 250mg e5d and you grow like weed. Peng money safed.
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Arimistane, DAA, Fenugreek:
(http://www.nutraplanet.com//photos/42926/TX3_medium.jpeg)
Good stuff for life long Natty's... Slight estrogen block, slight test boost... (equals a bit higher test)...
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I tried some superdrol once and used the Gaspari Novadex after. I had better results with the Novadex.
The Novadex is around $100.00 So It better have something in it.
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Is it normal to get reduced libido at low bodyfat?
I've heard that tribulis helps with increasing libido and energy even though it may not increase testosterone.
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Is it normal to get reduced libido at low bodyfat?
I've heard that tribulis helps with increasing libido and energy even though it may not increase testosterone.
Depending on how low we're talking about.....
Usually libido is higher on a skinny man than a fat one.
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Want to increase Test? Have your Vitamin D checked!
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i'm taking 750mg of test per week
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i'm taking 750mg of test per week
But PSB believes that we should support the hardworking people in the supplement industry ::)
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But PSB believes that we should support the hardworking people in the supplement industry ::)
LOL ... Not really just looking for something inexpensive over the counter ...
Btw, I'm starting to get fat around nipples People say that can be due testosterone disorder or the T booster Ive been taking for past 3 weeks or simply thee heavy beer drinking on weekends .
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LOL ... Not really just looking for something inexpensive over the counter ...
Btw, I'm starting to get fat around nipples People say that can be due testosterone disorder or the T booster Ive been taking for past 3 weeks or simply thee heavy beer drinking on weekends .
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Legit test should be your first choice in this case, about 5-6 USD per week for 250mg, a sweet and conservative dose for TRT purpose. Why would you worry about that 'counter', it's about the product and its effectiveness.
Simply ask your doctor for some blood work to measure your free test levels, end of guessing work.
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Legit test should be your first choice in this case, about 5-6 USD per week for 250mg, a sweet and conservative dose for TRT purpose. Why would you worry about that 'counter', it's about the product and its effectiveness.
Simply ask your doctor for some blood work to measure your free test levels, end of guessing work.
I buy in bulk. My 250/week costs $4/week all-in and that includes shipping and pins.
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I buy in bulk. My 250/week costs $4/week all-in and that includes shipping and pins.
Even better, so let's do some math:
Test: $4 / 7 = $0.57 per day
PharmaFreak TEST FREAK (http://nl.bodybuilding.com/store/pharmafreak/test-freak.html) (prob bogus, lol): $39.88 / 30 = $1.33 per day
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Taking real test is cheaper and the results are better if you are afraid of injecting then you can buy some testosterone undecanoate tabs you can get 50 tablets for about $45 way better than any supplement you could take.
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Taking real test is cheaper and the results are better if you are afraid of injecting then you can buy some testosterone undecanoate tabs you can get 50 tablets for about $45 way better than any supplement you could take.
Shit. I didn't know that this was an option. LOL.
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Taking real test is cheaper and the results are better if you are afraid of injecting then you can buy some testosterone undecanoate tabs you can get 50 tablets for about $45 way better than any supplement you could take.
Smart choice right there.
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Taking real test is cheaper and the results are better if you are afraid of injecting then you can buy some testosterone undecanoate tabs you can get 50 tablets for about $45 way better than any supplement you could take.
So where are you getting these? And I'm assuming they have to be methylated in order to survive the pass through your GI tract. Sounds like bullshit to me.
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So where are you getting these? And I'm assuming they have to be methylated in order to survive the pass through your GI tract. Sounds like bullshit to me.
So far It is.
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So far It is.
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Let me guess, you're simply afraid of the needle? ::)
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Let me guess, you're simply afraid of the needle? ::)
I don't know how to inject,never have...... therefore I'm more concerned with getting an infection or injecting in the wrong area.
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I don't know how to inject,never have...... therefore I'm more concerned with getting an infection or injecting in the wrong area.
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Eh, it ain't that hard. The first time, I was anxious, but since then its been easy.
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I don't know how to inject,never have...... therefore I'm more concerned with getting an infection or injecting in the wrong area.
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It's no rocket science, unless you're disabled or a parkinson patient ;D
There are plenty of lecture vids on Youtube, even by physicians.
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So where are you getting these? And I'm assuming they have to be methylated in order to survive the pass through your GI tract. Sounds like bullshit to me.
Nope, it's sold as Andriol. Due to the ester length its fat soluble, and suspended in oil, so it gets absorbed through the lymphatic system. Doesn't go through hepatic portal vein, so no need for methylation.
That being said, the bioavailability is still low. I don't even know if it's still used these days... seems like all you ever hear is transdermals/injectables, maybe because people don't like swallowing 6 horse pills everyday
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Nope, it's sold as Andriol. Due to the ester length its fat soluble, and suspended in oil, so it gets absorbed through the lymphatic system. Doesn't go through hepatic portal vein, so no need for methylation.
That being said, the bioavailability is still low. I don't even know if it's still used these days... seems like all you ever hear is transdermals/injectables, maybe because people don't like swallowing 6 horse pills everyday
You can still get it from dealers its not as good as injecting but its better than taking a test booster.
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It's no rocket science, unless you're disabled or a parkinson patient ;D
There are plenty of lecture vids on Youtube, even by physicians.
What's funny to you about Parkinson's?
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[...]because people don't like swallowing 6 horse pills everyday
These people obviously didn't grow up bb'ing in the 80's and 90's like me where we all walked around with our liver tabs making sure that we ate them at perfectly timed intervals. Shit, the things that we believed...
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What's funny to you about Parkinson's?
"I started a joke, which started the whole 'organization' crying,.."
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These people obviously didn't grow up bb'ing in the 80's and 90's like me where we all walked around with our liver tabs making sure that we ate them at perfectly timed intervals. Shit, the things that we believed...
Ah yes, but these are bodybuilders--the same people who would eat horse poop if it made them grow. Not the average candidate for trt, who has enough trouble poking himself twice a month.
No honestly, I have no idea why andriol isnt used more.... that's just a guess
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Nope, it's sold as Andriol. Due to the ester length its fat soluble, and suspended in oil, so it gets absorbed through the lymphatic system. Doesn't go through hepatic portal vein, so no need for methylation.
That being said, the bioavailability is still low. I don't even know if it's still used these days... seems like all you ever hear is transdermals/injectables, maybe because people don't like swallowing 6 horse pills everyday
You just blew my mind.
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"I started a joke, which started the whole 'organization' crying,.."
Okay.....you think Parkinson's is a joke?
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Ah yes, but these are bodybuilders--the same people who would eat horse poop if it made them grow. Not the average candidate for trt, who has enough trouble poking himself twice a month.
No honestly, I have no idea why andriol isnt used more.... that's just a guess
The bioavailability is shit. Have to be taken with a meal contaning some fat, but still shit.
I would do those buccal test products instead if I wanted an oral.
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The bioavailability is shit. Have to be taken with a meal contaning some fat, but still shit.
I would do those buccal test products instead if I wanted an oral.
The Test booster I'm taking I've been told is good to drink at lunch ...
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Best Natural Testosterone Booster?
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Best Natural Testosterone Booster?
No (no homo)
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No (no homo)
and one that you prefer
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and one that you prefer
No my friend, she's nice, but her effect on you're test levels has a shorter half life then test suspension
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Best natural testosterone booster = not cohabiting/marrying with one woman for life. Studies prove living with a woman for long periods of time and only fucking one pussy leads to lower test level, a pot belly, lackluster sense of humor, lower libido, overbite, dull wit and soft, flaccid erections. Not to mention the most important aspect, complete loss of hunter instinct. You become a domesticated house ape. Marriage is societal castration. That is all.
(http://www.mens-clinic.com.au/images/libido.jpg)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071010180134.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13129483
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Best natural testosterone booster = not cohabiting/marrying with one woman for life. Studies prove living with a woman for long periods of time and only fucking one pussy leads to lower test level, a pot belly, lackluster sense of humor, lower libido, overbite, dull wit and soft, flaccid erections. Not to mention the most important aspect, complete loss of hunter instinct. You become a domesticated house ape. Marriage is societal castration. That is all.
(http://www.mens-clinic.com.au/images/libido.jpg)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071010180134.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13129483
This actually makes a lot of sense.
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And stay child-free 8)
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Best natural testosterone booster = not cohabiting/marrying with one woman for life. Studies prove living with a woman for long periods of time and only fucking one pussy leads to lower test level, a pot belly, lackluster sense of humor, lower libido, overbite, dull wit and soft, flaccid erections. Not to mention the most important aspect, complete loss of hunter instinct. You become a domesticated house ape. Marriage is societal castration. That is all.
(http://www.mens-clinic.com.au/images/libido.jpg)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071010180134.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13129483
Nothing that a little gear can't fix.
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Best natural testosterone booster = not cohabiting/marrying with one woman for life. Studies prove living with a woman for long periods of time and only fucking one pussy leads to lower test level, a pot belly, lackluster sense of humor, lower libido, overbite, dull wit and soft, flaccid erections. Not to mention the most important aspect, complete loss of hunter instinct. You become a domesticated house ape. Marriage is societal castration. That is all.
(http://www.mens-clinic.com.au/images/libido.jpg)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071010180134.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13129483
I've been preaching this stuff for years. Societal stigmas, group behavior and centuries of brainwashing.
Men that get married do it because someone else did.
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Best Natural Testosterone Booster?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=561778;image)
This is working for me.
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I've been preaching this stuff for years. Societal stigmas, group behavior and centuries of brainwashing.
Men that get married do it because someone else did.
QFT.
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This dude's face is one of the saddest things that I have ever seen...
(http://www.mens-clinic.com.au/images/libido.jpg)
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This is working for me.
A 3D version works best
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(http://usafricaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Biafran-children-starving-1967-1970-file-pix.jpg)
(http://www.peterwilliams.ch/Biafra_1968/00246-14x.jpg)
(http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kevin-carter-vulture.jpg?w=700&h=466)
Can't they send Branch to teach them how to hunt?
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(http://usafricaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Biafran-children-starving-1967-1970-file-pix.jpg)
(http://www.peterwilliams.ch/Biafra_1968/00246-14x.jpg)
(http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kevin-carter-vulture.jpg?w=700&h=466)
and yet they're constantly fucking more of them.......
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The Nigerian leaders pretty much starved the igbos into surrender, blocked food supply and farm land
as usual politicians destroying the people :D
let's all donate money see if it will solve the world problems ::)
I've once met a tree hugger with plans to serve in Africa, so I served him my honest opinion which caused a vegetarian meltdown...
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I've once served a tree hugger my honest opinion, which caused a vegetarian meltdown.
I once served a vegetarian a tree hugger.... ;D
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I once served a vegetarian a tree hugger.... ;D
Yuck fou, that post was in a draft mode ;D
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Nolvadex and clomid...its not roids so your still natty no?
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I've once met a tree hugger with plans to serve in Africa, so I served him my honest opinion which caused a vegetarian meltdown...
:D
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Nolvadex and clomid...its not roids so your still natty no?
Good question, for the price you'll probably b better off using roids..
but then again you'll be buying from someone on the streets and won't be natty no more
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Can't they send Branch to teach them how to hunt?
Sad.
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(http://www.supplementinnercircle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Lecheek-Nutrition-T-X3.jpg)
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Best Natural Testosterone Booster?
Human viagra there booey!!
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Yep, Arimistane is the real deal. Stack it with test boosters like d-aspartic acid for two weeks then switch the d-aspartic to something with fadogia extract like HCGgenerate..but keep on the arimistane and you will greatly elevate test. I cycled roids in the 80's and 90's a bit(competed).. then, had a fairly low libido for several years. Now, at 51 taking these products, dick works amazing..libido great..getting good pumps in the workouts..so yes, this shit works!! I cycle off arimistane and replace it with 6-Bromo for about 6 weeks and stack it with various test boosters.
So, if you only take anti-aromatase supps, you will lose libido eventually. But if you stack them with test boosters and then rotate the types of anti aromatase supps, you can be on them a long time and keep boosting test. By the way, I'm a pretty hard looking 200 pounds at 5'9"..and haven't done any juice since 1994..
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One other thing, why I like doing this better than just injecting test..is I have not experienced any suppression. Just the opposite..I've enhanced pituitary and testicular function so that my test levels are probably on par with a guy in his early 20's. So, no.I won't look like a pro, but I don't care about that now. The problem with doing a lot of steroid cycles is it's hard to ever get your body producing the same amounts later. And taking synthetic test forever, and having inflate your nuts with HCG and take arimidex and all that crap the rest of your life isn't for me. I'd rather force my body to produce it's own testosterone in the high/normal range...and still look like a middle aged Pussy slaying Stud (which is what I am,) ;)
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One other thing, why I like doing this better than just injecting test..is I have not experienced any suppression. Just the opposite..I've enhanced pituitary and testicular function so that my test levels are probably on par with a guy in his early 20's. So, no.I won't look like a pro, but I don't care about that now. The problem with doing a lot of steroid cycles is it's hard to ever get your body producing the same amounts later. And taking synthetic test forever, and having inflate your nuts with HCG and take arimidex and all that crap the rest of your life isn't for me. I'd rather force my body to produce it's own testosterone in the high/normal range...and still look like a middle aged Pussy slaying Stud (which is what I am,) ;)
Can you post here, a quick sample of what you use how you rotate them?
At 48, I feel these natty supps give me a slight boost (you can feel it), but wouldn't want the low libido thing to happen.
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Can you post here, a quick sample of what you use how you rotate them?
At 48, I feel these natty supps give me a slight boost (you can feel it), but wouldn't want the low libido thing to happen.
X2.
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Delusional naturals ::)
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Delusional naturals ::)
i was one of them
i thought gaspari's amino acids were gonna give me sick arm gains, flex lewis told me in person after all :-\
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i was one of them
i thought gaspari's amino acids were gonna give me sick arm gains, flex lewis told me in person after all :-\
What a piece of filth, but fuck, what can you say as a sponsored guy, the truth?..
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What a piece of filth, but fuck, what can you say as a sponsored guy, the truth?..
flex knows very well PEOPLE CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH
he has my approval for pushing garbage supps on people who are dumb enough to believe in them
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flex knows very well PEOPLE CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH
he has my approval for pushing garbage supps on people who are dumb enough to believe in them
if supps really worked, the government would be all over them and shut them down. The fact that the govt doesnt care speaks volumes ::) ::)
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if supps really worked, the government would be all over them and shut them down. The fact that the govt doesnt care speaks volumes ::) ::)
are bodybuilders a threat to the government?
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are bodybuilders a threat to the government?
Hahaha! Despite your insightful thought here, the supplement industry has great lobbiests and is primary headquartered in Nevada, the home state of the majority leader in the Senate, so the supps industry is protected...for now.
That doesn't alter the fact that the supps industry is pure bullshit.
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Hahaha! Despite your insightful thought here, the supplement industry has great lobbiests and is primary headquartered in Nevada, the home state of the majority leader in the Senate, so the supps industry is protected...for now.
That doesn't alter the fact that the supps industry is pure bullshit.
supposedly they changed the law to get even more state income
now they can write what they want on the bottles untill proven false ???
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Can this product promote hair loss ?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538433;image)
If so, can propecia reverse it ?
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A friend of a friend of a friend has been taking Methyl-tren 550 for 2 months straight now, and he has gotten very lean while keeping all his muscle mass.
...But if it has the benefits of the sauce, does that means the hair loss can be accelerate as well ?
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A friend of a friend of a friend has been taking Methyl-tren 550 for 2 months straight now, and he has gotten very lean while keeping all his muscle mass.
...But if it has the benefits of the sauce, does that means the hair loss can be accelerate as well ?
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You're sensitive to hair loss with above average test levels, or you aren't.
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You're sensitive to hair loss with above average test levels, or you aren't.
Good question, I have all my hair but I'm 40 so maybe this Test boost can in someway weaken my hair (maybe) and in the event that my hair starts thinning , if I throw Propecia to the mix, or Rogain ...would that balance things out ?
I think its a fair question .
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Good question, I have all my hair but I'm 40 so maybe this Test boost can in someway weaken my hair (maybe) and in the event that my hair starts thinning , if I throw Propecia to the mix, or Rogain ...would that balance things out ?
I think its a fair question .
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I can't answer that question for you, but I see that both substances have been discussed before:
- Propecia (https://www.google.nl/search?q=site%3Awww.getbig.com+Propecia&oq=site%3Awww.getbig.com+Propecia&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.10057j0j1&client=ubuntu-browser&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
- Rogaine (https://www.google.nl/search?q=site%3Awww.getbig.com+Rogain&oq=site%3Awww.getbig.com+Rogain&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.5861j0j1&client=ubuntu-browser&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=site%3Awww.getbig.com+Rogaine&safe=off&spell=1)
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Good question, I have all my hair but I'm 40 so maybe this Test boost can in someway weaken my hair (maybe) and in the event that my hair starts thinning , if I throw Propecia to the mix, or Rogain ...would that balance things out ?
I think its a fair question .
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If you have all your hair and you're 40, it's not going to be an issue. MPB starts in one's 20s
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I will be bald by 50 it's thin already :'( but I'm ok with it :-\
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BB-related power pose,
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If you have all your hair and you're 40, it's not going to be an issue. MPB starts in one's 20s
If this is true, then I am gonna step on the gas, baby! Haha!
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If you have all your hair and you're 40, it's not going to be an issue. MPB starts in one's 20s
Are you referring to Norwood 1 hairline or a slight mature hairline at that age as a 'full head of hair'?
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(http://www.supplementinnercircle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Lecheek-Nutrition-T-X3.jpg)
What are your experiences with this ? For how long have you been on it?
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Hahaha! Despite your insightful thought here, the supplement industry has great lobbiests and is primary headquartered in Nevada, the home state of the majority leader in the Senate, so the supps industry is protected...for now.
That doesn't alter the fact that the supps industry is pure bullshit.
Interesting.
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Actually those products may not be much better than several others out there. I mentioned them because I have noticed results from them. The problem with any of the test boosters..is if you find one that actually works..after a few weeks, your increased test starts to aromatize into estrogen and you get softer and fatter. Plus the increased estrogen stops your test from going any higher. That's why combining an anit-estrogenic supplement gets around that issue. D Aspartic acid has plenty of studies showing large test increases after only 12 days. Personally I didn't do any bloodwork since my excellent libido, pump, hardness and fat loss were good enough proof for me. I did see blood work from a guy at my gym who combines Triazole with Erase and he had a huge jump in test. He wasn't trying to sell me the stuff, so I didn't have any reason to doubt him. There may be many products that work. My point was that you get good results from stacking a test booster with an Aromatase Inhibitor.
Elaborate.
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Elaborate.
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Yeah, show us the scientific studies.
Oh wait, there are no studies ::)
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Does any of that stuff really work? <confused>
I tried it(the original Gaspari Novedex XT) and I actually liked the stuff. Not sure what was illegal about it but I had a Boner every day! It sucked because you took them before bed and if you didn't get laid that night orrubbed one out you were bound to have a wet dream and make you boxers a mess!
One of the best natural cycles you can run is very simple and cheap a bottle of gaspari Nolvadex or now of days a vial of research nolva for your rats, go to whole foods and by a cheap bottle of Tribulus and fenugreek and also a good quality bottle of DHEA,I got nice kickback from that over the counter whole foods cycle. You can also just spend 30$ and get a bottle of liquid vitamin B complaex, bottle of Tribulus and a bottle of DHEA. Worked great for me but DHEA is not very healthy for everybody it can push cancer along faster if your going to get that form of cancer anyway. As long as you have no cancer in your family DHEA is good stuff,at least it worked for me with just a high quality bottle of tribulus.
Whole Foods carries very high quality of supplements. Most of the brands you will not of heard of but they are brands that have been tested and match label claims.
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Elaborate.
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"I have noticed results" sounds like something that you hear on bb.com when delusional natties talk about their "stack" of OTC supps.
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I tried it(the original Gaspari Novedex XT) and I actually liked the stuff. Not sure what was illegal about it but I had a Boner every day! It sucked because you took them before bed and if you didn't get laid that night orrubbed one out you were bound to have a wet dream and make you boxers a mess!
One of the best natural cycles you can run is very simple and cheap a bottle of gaspari Nolvadex or now of days a vial of research nolva for your rats, go to whole foods and by a cheap bottle of Tribulus and fenugreek and also a good quality bottle of DHEA,I got nice kickback from that over the counter whole foods cycle. You can also just spend 30$ and get a bottle of liquid vitamin B complaex, bottle of Tribulus and a bottle of DHEA. Worked great for me but DHEA is not very healthy for everybody it can push cancer along faster if your going to get that form of cancer anyway. As long as you have no cancer in your family DHEA is good stuff,at least it worked for me with just a high quality bottle of tribulus.
Whole Foods carries very high quality of supplements. Most of the brands you will not of heard of but they are brands that have been tested and match label claims.
How is Tribulus alone for libido?
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How is Tribulus alone for libido?
Total waste of money unless you can get a product that has at least 80 percent protodioscin. if it says 80 percent or more saponins its junk because that part of the plant is not strong enough to see any kind of results.
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Balls to the wall squats in the best test booster... no contest. Deads are second.
Just started squatting again after my shoulder injury from last year healed up. I also started using a Manta Ray to protect against C6/C7 impingement. After only 3 leg workouts I'm already hitting 225 for 15 ass to grass reps.
It's really amazing how hard squatting adds to your entire physique. During my 30 years of training I've found that most people are not able to put in the effort/work it takes to train legs correctly. Most are too busy looking at their fucking cell phones... tech toy addicted zombies.
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Balls to the wall squats in the best test booster... no contest. Deads are second.
Just started squatting again after my shoulder injury from last year healed up. I also started using a Manta Ray to protect against C6/C7 impingement. After only 3 leg workouts I'm already hitting 225 for 15 ass to grass reps.
It's really amazing how hard squatting adds to your entire physique. During my 30 years of training I've found that most people are not able to put in the effort/work it takes to train legs correctly. Most are too busy looking at their fucking cell phones... tech toy addicted zombies.
This ^^^
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Balls to the wall squats in the best test booster... no contest. Deads are second.
Just started squatting again after my shoulder injury from last year healed up. I also started using a Manta Ray to protect against C6/C7 impingement. After only 3 leg workouts I'm already hitting 225 for 15 ass to grass reps.
It's really amazing how hard squatting adds to your entire physique. During my 30 years of training I've found that most people are not able to put in the effort/work it takes to train legs correctly. Most are too busy looking at their fucking cell phones... tech toy addicted zombies.
Here we go again...
There's always a group on any lifting forum that will tell you that SQUATS are the cure for everything.
- Need to gain weight? SQUAT
- Bigger arms? SQUAT
- Losing hair? SQUAT
- Dick size inadequate? SQUAT
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Here we go again...
There's always a group on any lifting forum that will tell you that SQUATS are the cure for everything.
- Need to gain weight? SQUAT
- Bigger arms? SQUAT
- Losing hair? SQUAT
- Dick size inadequate? SQUAT
You really ought to try it. Pack some meat on those toothpicks.
BTW, sorry about your thinning hair and small wiener.
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You really ought to try it. Pack some meat on those toothpicks.
BTW, sorry about your thinning hair and small wiener.
Hahaha! Well done!
I do love me some squats. Pity that I suck so bad at them.
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Hahaha! Well done!
I do love me some squats. Pity that I suck so bad at them.
You should squat so when you squat down at the glory hole your knees wont hurt so much.
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2011-03-15-gloryhole.jpg)
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You should squat so when you squat down at the glory hole your knees wont hurt so much.
My knees crack like they are filled with breaking plastic. Doubt it would help.
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Lol @ this thread.
Why spend tons of money on placebos when the real stuff is cheaper?
Even if you found some substance OTC that actually works, you aren't really natural anymore are you?
You're paying for a substance that is basically a steroid, altered enough so that it passes FDA reg.
On top of that you're paying more than if you just went ahead and injected! :D
We all learn the hard way. I did.
The Trainer is the only one really putting out good advices here.
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Balls to the wall squats in the best test booster... no contest. Deads are second.
Just started squatting again after my shoulder injury from last year healed up. I also started using a Manta Ray to protect against C6/C7 impingement. After only 3 leg workouts I'm already hitting 225 for 15 ass to grass reps.
It's really amazing how hard squatting adds to your entire physique. During my 30 years of training I've found that most people are not able to put in the effort/work it takes to train legs correctly. Most are too busy looking at their fucking cell phones... tech toy addicted zombies.
IF you have 30 plus years of training and still can squat 225 for 15 reps I have to say you have some impressive knees ,hips and lower back .
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My knees crack like they are filled with breaking plastic. Doubt it would help.
Exactly, not to mention that every BB that has done heavy squat for over 15 years is a hip replacement candidate before age 60.
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Are you referring to Norwood 1 hairline or a slight mature hairline at that age as a 'full head of hair'?
I am certainly no expert, and each case is different....but if you are 40 and you can reasonably say "I have a full head of hair", chances are quite low that steroids will make your hair fall out.
I'm sure you've all had friends who started losing their hair bigtime in their early 20s..... those are the unfortunate souls who shouldn't juice heavily
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I am certainly no expert, and each case is different....but if you are 40 and you can reasonably say "I have a full head of hair", chances are quite low that steroids will make your hair fall out.
I'm sure you've all had friends who started losing their hair bigtime in their early 20s..... those are the unfortunate souls who shouldn't juice heavily
Branch Warren ?
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Branch Warren ?
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Bingo. Nasser is another example
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I have a client that just brought this test booster ingredients look decent.
(http://c718858.r58.cf2.rackcdn.com/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/s/bsn_evotest.jpeg)
(http://www.bestmusclesupps.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bsn-evotest-nutrition.gif)
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I have a client that just brought this test booster ingredients look decent.
(http://c718858.r58.cf2.rackcdn.com/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/s/bsn_evotest.jpeg)
(http://www.bestmusclesupps.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bsn-evotest-nutrition.gif)
It's missing goldenrod root, the secret that pro bodybuilders have been trying to hide for centuries.
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Best testosterone boosters:
1. Having lots of sex with different women. If not possible- watch plenty porn
2. Have success in life and become an alpha male... ;D
3. Plenty sleep
4. Avoid starvation diets
even if it doesn't work for boosting T levels, that sounds like a good life. ;D
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If you jump down to 'recovery' you can see that chinese athletes believe that icing down you nads (testicles) twice a day will jack your test up :D
http://sheltongstevens.blogspot.com/2014/04/a-look-behind-gold-of-chinese.html?spref=fb (http://sheltongstevens.blogspot.com/2014/04/a-look-behind-gold-of-chinese.html?spref=fb)
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I have a client that just brought this test booster ingredients look decent.
(http://c718858.r58.cf2.rackcdn.com/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/s/bsn_evotest.jpeg)
(http://www.bestmusclesupps.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bsn-evotest-nutrition.gif)
Can you take that combined with N-Xplode? how similar are these two? as both are energy boosters?
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Saturated fat and cholesterol.
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EVOTEST
Is BSN's reinvention of natural testosterone support, offering an innovative concentrated formula that will change the way consumers think about testosterone support supplements. By moving away from traditional ingredients such as tribulus terrestris in favor of novel ingredients like magnesium oxide and d-aspartic acid, BSN is hoping to get consumers to expect more performance out of their testosterone support supplement and see the difference this novel formula can make. EVOTEST is also unique in that it's BSN's first concentrated powdered testosterone support supplement, allowing users to mix it with another favorite supplement or simply offering more choice and flexibility for those who prefer flavored drinks over tablets. Whichever format you choose, only two servings are needed per day, another convenient feature.
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Can you take that combined with N-Xplode? how similar are these two? as both are energy boosters?
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I would stack it with nitrix to get a good pump.
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9 pages of peace and zero progress has been made. Time to buy the real deal and stfu about supplements ::)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Depo-testosterone_200_mg_ml_crop.jpg/220px-Depo-testosterone_200_mg_ml_crop.jpg)
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IF you have 30 plus years of training and still can squat 225 for 15 reps I have to say you have some impressive knees ,hips and lower back .
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I do. Unfortunately it was my neck (C6-C7) that eventually wore out. For years I subscribed to the "towels/pads on the bar are for pussies" mentality. My goal (using the manta ray) is 315 for 10 reps.
Legs are so much more challenging to train than any other body part. I like to milk every last rep.. those last 2-3 reps are more mental than physical... there is no faking it. Tom Platz was always my source of inspiration. I cannot handle the weight he did, but got pretty close to his level of intensity when I was younger. During one workout I squatted 225 for 55 reps at 180lbs... that was an out of body experience. I was crawling around for 6-7 days after that. My girlfriend at the time had to help me on and off the toilet -lol
Again, these so called T boosters do not do anything. Like DP said, you're better off spending your hard earned money on the real thing.
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9 pages of peace and zero progress has been made. Time to buy the real deal and stfu about supplements ::)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Depo-testosterone_200_mg_ml_crop.jpg/220px-Depo-testosterone_200_mg_ml_crop.jpg)
Not everyone wants something so strong with all the side-effects.
The aim of testosterone boosters is supposed to maximise your own natural production.
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Not everyone wants something so strong with all the side-effects.
Then simply run a therapeutic dose, say 200mg
The aim of testosterone boosters is supposed to maximise your own natural production.
This is rather a matter of changing your lifestyle habits (nutrition, exercise, sleep). A booster can't fix bad habits.
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Can you take that combined with N-Xplode? how similar are these two? as both are energy boosters?
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I dont like the profile of that one, but this one looks OK... If you research the studies of these 3 ingredients, you'll see it does something (a little bit).
Thats all these do are a little boost, which is great for natties or old folk natties (like me) or people coming off juice...
Hybrid F1-Test
https://www.supplementcentral.com/Hybrid-Performance-Nutrition-F1-Test-100-capsule
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Then simply run a therapeutic dose, say 200mg
This is rather a matter of changing your lifestyle habits (nutrition, exercise, sleep). A booster can't fix bad habits.
This is exactly what I needed to be told....
I want to be a bodybuilder from Monday Tru Friday then drink on the weekends...
(I guess it doesn't work that way )
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This is exactly what I needed to be told....
I want to be a bodybuilder from Monday Tru Friday then drink on the weekends...
(I guess it doesn't work that way )
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And the sad thing is that even drinking with 'moderation' isn't an option.
"Research has shown that even two drinks/day can lower your testosterone levels."
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dr-mike-hart/low-testosterone-levels_b_3486961.html
Drinking isn't smart anyway, in case you decide to take certain orals.
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I don't take any branded supplements to boost my natural T levels but take garlic oil tablets and drink a glass of pomegranate juice everday since I've heard these two things have a positive effect on T levels.
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I don't take any branded supplements to boost my natural T levels but take garlic oil tablets and drink a glass of pomegranate juice everday since I've heard these two things have a positive effect on T levels.
Specifically garlic oil, or just garlic tablets?
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Specifically garlic oil, or just garlic tablets?
I think garlic in general. I just use the tablets as its more convenient. This is taken from wiki:
Garlic supplementation has been shown to boost testosterone levels and the plasma Luteinizing Hormone in rats fed a high protein diet.
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I think garlic in general. I just use the tablets as its more convenient. This is taken from wiki:
Ok, thanks for the info!
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DAA does seem to have an effect
.. but I wouldn't say it necessarily has much to do with the gym.
For me, the most obvious effects are that I'm slightly more irritated by the little things, appear to be producing far more semen and my protein drink has, what I like to call "a lemon twist" - in that DAA is very noticeable in any drink.
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DAA does seem to have an effect
.. but I wouldn't say it necessarily has much to do with the gym.
For me, the most obvious effects are that I'm slightly more irritated by the little things, appear to be producing far more semen and my protein drink has, what I like to call "a lemon twist" - in that DAA is very noticeable in any drink.
DAA always made me very agitated and anxious.... Not a good feeling at all.
Bulbine was generating a lot of talk a year or two ago as a test booster.
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And the sad thing is that even drinking with 'moderation' isn't an option.
"Research has shown that even two drinks/day can lower your testosterone levels."
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dr-mike-hart/low-testosterone-levels_b_3486961.html
Drinking isn't smart anyway, in case you decide to take certain orals.
Dont make bodybuilding out to be a prison sentence you got to be able to go out have some drinks and enjoy yourself.
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Dont make bodybuilding out to be a prison sentence you got to be able to go out have some drinks and enjoy yourself.
You're right on that, this is simply an individual choice.
Every now and then I love a glass of wine (no homo), but feel no desire to get drunk.
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You're right on that, this is simply an individual choice.
Every now and then I love a glass of wine (no homo), but feel no desire to get drunk.
Ultimate Natty Stack.
DAA (preferably Pat's test force 2) + SERM (preferably torem) + low dose AI (preferably exemestane) + nettle root (SHGB, unbound free test) + Phosphatidylserine (PS) + a tocopherol complex + God's love. (in no particular order, the core of this is a SERM then an AI).
I should charge you fucking idiots for these posts.
Big fat, natty, healthy balls of peace pumping test into the high norm range.
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Ultimate Natty Stack.
DAA + SERM (preferably torem) + low dose AI (preferably exemestane) + nettle root (SHGB, unbound free test) + Phosphatidylserine (PS) + a tocopherol complex + God's love.
I should charge you fucking idiots for these posts.
Big fat, natty, healthy balls of peace pumping test into the high norm range.
The things that people take, in order call themselves 'nattie' ::)
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Ultimate Natty Stack.
DAA (preferably Pat's test force 2) + SERM (preferably torem) + low dose AI (preferably exemestane) + nettle root (SHGB, unbound free test) + Phosphatidylserine (PS) + a tocopherol complex + God's love. (in no particular order, the core of this is a SERM then an AI).
Pretty good naturalo stack. Though instead of the strikethrough parts I would do propionyl-l-carnitine/acetyl-l-carnitine in the morning with the DAA/Sarcosine and agmatine at night (might boost pituitary hormones). Then I would do a good dose of mucuna pruriens/l-dopa.
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Ultimate Natty Stack.
DAA (preferably Pat's test force 2) + SERM (preferably torem) + low dose AI (preferably exemestane) + nettle root (SHGB, unbound free test) + Phosphatidylserine (PS) + a tocopherol complex + God's love. (in no particular order, the core of this is a SERM then an AI).
I should charge you fucking idiots for these posts.
Big fat, natty, healthy balls of peace pumping test into the high norm range.
Exemestane is a prescription AI. What determines "natty" in this context?
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Exemestane is a prescription AI. What determines "natty" in this context?
Actually, several of the products mentioned here like Arimistane..are not natural..as far as they have been synthesized. However, I don't worry about things being "natural"..What I am interested in are products that boost my libido significantly and show visible progress to my 51 year old body....but are not suppressive to my own hormonal output.
Inevitably on any thread that mentions this sort of thing, you always get the "Hey Bro,, just fuck off and shoot some Test." guys.
I could do that, and probably look even more impressive than I do now, but that's missing the point. After a few weeks, my nuts will shrink and become dysfunctional. Also, from many men I have spoke to on TRT, the libido surge they get intially, seems to subside after a while. Then they need to up the dose..which can throw off your lipids..not good for older men.. Then you probably will want to do HCG..which can heavily aromatize ..Now you probably will have to take arimidex..which has it's own sides. I still have a full head of hair..High test doses can make that fall out..probably why I see so many guys in their 20's now bald at the gym. So then what, Finasteride? No way.. a dick killing drug if there ever was one.
I did my juice cycles. in my 20's and 30's (but intelligently)..but I am making decent gains now without, have a great sex drive now using test boosters and mild over the counter aromatase inhibitors. Now, if in a few years my body no longer responds to these products..or..they get taken off the market...then I would do TRT. I"m certainly not going to walk around with test levels of a pre-teen girl.
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Exemestane is a prescription AI. What determines "natty" in this context?
I would say manipulation of normal testosterone levels without introduction of exogenous test and/or other anabolic/androgenic hormone or designer steroid (pro-hormone) you fucking idiot what else do you think it would mean?
If you want to split hairs and say no use of any pharmaceutical than that is another story. But then you have the argument of whether something like DAA is really "all natural" as to me it resembles a pharmaceutical moreso than a vitamin. In any case, shut the fuck up.
Pretty good naturalo stack. Though instead of the strikethrough parts I would do propionyl-l-carnitine/acetyl-l-carnitine in the morning with the DAA/Sarcosine and agmatine at night (might boost pituitary hormones). Then I would do a good dose of mucuna pruriens/l-dopa.
Carnitine forms is debatable, everyone has their favorites. There are tons of things that could be added in here that would all help. MP/l-dopa is legit. I have played with it when 100% clean before too. High dosing before bed I could feel after a few weeks. I prefer the 1-carboxy extract though. If you're going for that I'd use this instead of some other MP/l-dopa product. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/uspowders/bulk-1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol-3-4-diol-100-grams.html
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I would say manipulation of normal testosterone levels without introduction of exogenous test and/or other anabolic/androgenic hormone or designer steroid (pro-hormone) you fucking idiot what else do you think it would mean?
If you want to split hairs and say no use of any pharmaceutical than that is another story. But then you have the argument of whether something like DAA is really "all natural" as to me it resembles a pharmaceutical moreso than a vitamin. In any case, shut the fuck up.
DAA rage meltdown. Maybe you should go out and catch some fresh air "Asspie."
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DAA rage meltdown. Maybe you should go out and catch some fresh air "Asspie."
LOL. I read that as Aspie at first; implying a misspelled form of "aspy" or one with aspergers syndrome. I liked it, made me chortle a bit because it was fairly witty. Then a re-read it and realized it was just "asspie" as in ASS PIE. Then I was just disappointed and let down because it was not witty at all and just a juvenile and mindless insult by another dipshit forum member. Then I remembered I was just posting at Getbig. :( Gloomy Monday. In the ever so slight chance you intended it to be "Aspy," you completely fucking failed and ruined the comedic effect with your stupid grammatical error. Either way, I want to kill myself now.
Better luck next time, Chiro.
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LOL. I read that as Aspie at first; implying a misspelled form of "aspy" or one with aspergers syndrome. I liked it, made me chortle a bit because it was fairly witty. Then a re-read it and realized it was just "asspie" as in ASS PIE. Then I was just disappointed and let down because it was not witty at all and just a juvenile and mindless insult by another dipshit forum member. Then I remembered I was just posting at Getbig. :( Gloomy Monday. In the ever so slight chance you intended it to be "Aspy," you completely fucking failed and ruined the comedic effect with your stupid grammatical error. Either way, I want to kill myself now.
Better luck next time, Chiro.
Explanation paragraph meltdown of peace.
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I have a client that just brought this test booster ingredients look decent.
(http://c718858.r58.cf2.rackcdn.com/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/s/bsn_evotest.jpeg)
(http://www.bestmusclesupps.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bsn-evotest-nutrition.gif)
Has someone tried this EVO Test?
Is this any different from the $14.00 Test booster sold at Walmart?
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Has someone tried this EVO Test?
Is this any different from the $14.00 Test booster sold at Walmart?
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Its likely they do exactly the same thing.
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People still believe this stuff works?
This is becoming bodybuilding.com
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That thing there (EVO) does nothing, need something with a real AI in it, like Arimistane... (Blocks estrogen, which raises test)...
And only those do a little bit, a older natty would notice though... Young guys, probably wont do anything either...
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People still believe this stuff works?
This is becoming bodybuilding.com
They're some that works .. Some even get banned from time to time , you can really feel the difference once you start taking them ....
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Its likely they do exactly the same thing.
Nothing?
Some gay sex with socks on will put hairs on your chest.
No homo
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They're some that works .. Some even get banned from time to time , you can really feel the difference once you start taking them ....
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Uhhhh this shit is like 100 dollars a bottle or more.
I know because a long time ago I was one of the dumb kids that bought it.
Just get test. It works better and is cheaper. Lol @ pro hormones
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538439;image)
Update : A friend of mine has finished his second bottle he is 31.
has a lean muscle "Arnold 1980" dry like results but Gyno are SO EVIDENT
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH BeYEKE
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538439;image)
Update : A friend of mine has finished his second bottle he is 31.
has a lean muscle "Arnold 1980" dry like results but Gyno are SO EVIDENT
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH BeYEKE
Maybe some gyno was there previously?
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Maybe some gyno was there previously?
Probably, but when you're lean it shows even more (Or at least people pay more attention to your physique)
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Probably, but when you're lean it shows even more (Or at least people pay more attention to your physique)
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In my case, when I get lean my little bit of gyno basically disappears.
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In my case, when I get lean my little bit of gyno basically disappears.
The people that sells Methyl-tren say that gyno is likely to appear if you don't use something else after done with the cycle...
Goes to show you that for n over the counter product it does have something strong in it.... I think is no longer available at Amazon.
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The people that sells Methyl-tren say that gyno is likely to appear if you don't use something else after done with the cycle...
Goes to show you that for n over the counter product it does have something strong in it.... I think is no longer available at Amazon.
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How the hell did your friend stand the side effects, people complain that they cant sleep, they keep waking up in a pool of sweat and when they sweat it smells.
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ive been liftin n been around the game for decades n only thing ive found that raises test levels is test itself, ive been fooled in my younger yrs buying that stuff that supposedly boosts test levels, stuff is not worth the money n does very little in boosting test, if u r gonna spend the money get the real deal, thats just my opinion tho
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Has someone tried this EVO Test?
Is this any different from the $14.00 Test booster sold at Walmart?
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Proprietary blend of peace
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If you're in your mid 30's like me, try zinc. Mega doses have been shown to work significantly. I personally take around 300mg a day, or more. Natural power lifters and bodybuilders have been doing this for a while. Might not have much effect for younger lifters. But at 35, it works for me.
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get lab work done to make should you don't have any deficiencies. I needed to take extra vit D. When, I got my vit d levels back up, I saw a side effect of increase test levels.
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If you're in your mid 30's like me, try zinc. Mega doses have been shown to work significantly. I personally take around 300mg a day, or more. Natural power lifters and bodybuilders have been doing this for a while. Might not have much effect for younger lifters. But at 35, it works for me.
300 mg? You'd be poisoned. No way you're taking that much.
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There are people that take a lot more. And you actually wouldn't be poisoned. It's something people play up. Yet have never tried. There are studies where people had effects after 6 months with over 1000mg. Per day.
I don't think I'm poisoned, lol.
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I've been on Tribulis and ZMA for about two weeks.
As bizarre it may sound, my voice is definitely different, its a bit crackly and deeper ???
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I've been on Tribulis and ZMA for about two weeks.
As bizarre it may sound, my voice is definitely different, its a bit crackly and deeper ???
Write something in your new voice, see if we can tell the difference.
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ive been liftin n been around the game for decades n only thing ive found that raises test levels is test itself, ive been fooled in my younger yrs buying that stuff that supposedly boosts test levels, stuff is not worth the money n does very little in boosting test, if u r gonna spend the money get the real deal, thats just my opinion tho
Pro Hormones when they first came out on the market, Andro etc. worked well for me.
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I've been on Tribulis and ZMA for about two weeks.
As bizarre it may sound, my voice is definitely different, its a bit crackly and deeper ???
might be a sore throat bro
not to rain on your parade
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There are people that take a lot more. And you actually wouldn't be poisoned. It's something people play up. Yet have never tried. There are studies where people had effects after 6 months with over 1000mg. Per day.
I don't think I'm poisoned, lol.
A gram of zinc! Holy shit.
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I've been on Tribulis and ZMA for about two weeks.
As bizarre it may sound, my voice is definitely different, its a bit crackly and deeper ???
That is because you have a high pitch voice and bitch tits because of your high estrogen levels, you must be tired of being mistaken for a woman.
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I've been on Tribulis and ZMA for about two weeks.
As bizarre it may sound, my voice is definitely different, its a bit crackly and deeper ???
Just shoot of a load of cum down your throat. Seems to help me (no homo)
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Just shoot of a load of cum down your throat. Seems to help me (no homo)
Yes, some ladyboy cum should fix me up.
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Write something in your new voice, see if we can tell the difference.
:D
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Yes, some ladyboy cum should fix me up.
Stop. You're making me hungry (no homo again)
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Stop. You're making me hungry (no homo again)
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get lab work done to make should you don't have any deficiencies. I needed to take extra vit D. When, I got my vit d levels back up, I saw a side effect of increase test levels.
Youre 40 and get said lab test done result shows that your Testosrone levels are "normal" for your age..... they wont prescribed anything.....
You still want to build muscle, feel that energy to go to the gym, what do you do ? (drug free)
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Youre 40 and get said lab test done result shows that your Testosrone levels are "normal" for your age..... they wont prescribed anything.....
You still want to build muscle, feel that energy to go to the gym, what do you do ? (drug free)
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Find a steroid dealer or order that shit online.
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Find a steroid dealer or order that shit online.
Jump on test, jump off, get lab work done immediately after it clears system and before your system rebounds.
Voila.
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Jump on test, jump off, get lab work done immediately after it clears system and before your system rebounds.
Voila.
That sounds crazy ....but it makes sense..
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Best NATURAl test booster : Heavy squat and then stroking the salami ....
You will develop vascular tights .
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Best NATURAl test booster : Heavy squat and then stroking the salami ....
You will develop vascular tights .
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You're describing my first year of training there.
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You're describing my first year of training there.
Lol.
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Fuck T boosters, just inject some goddamn steroids if this kinda thing matters to you.
None of them fucking work.
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Fuck T boosters, just inject some goddamn steroids if this kinda thing matters to you.
None of them fucking work.
We keep saying that, but our friend passes out when he sees a needle...
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Want to increase Test? Have your Vitamin D checked!
On a sunny day ?
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The sun is the best thing to increase test, these guys sit in the sun all day and look at them.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8381/8492254693_211d13863d.jpg)
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The sun is the best thing to increase test, these guys sit in the sun all day and look at them.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8381/8492254693_211d13863d.jpg)
I thought u were posting a pic of yourself with a pal at 1st ,,
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The sun is the best thing to increase test, these guys sit in the sun all day and look at them.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8381/8492254693_211d13863d.jpg)
Impressive look! not obtained under a regular sun though.
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The sun is the best thing to increase test, these guys sit in the sun all day and look at them.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8381/8492254693_211d13863d.jpg)
GIRL IN BACKROUND IS GOING TO FETCH THERE NEXT PRELOAD SHOT..
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90 percent of women think that big shaved legs on man fat or muscular look feminine.
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90 percent of women think that big shaved legs on man fat or muscular look feminine.
What the fuck do you know about women?
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What the fuck do you know about women?
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What the fuck do you know about women?
Ask the oldest woman in your house..... She'll tell you what I know son.
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Ask the oldest woman in your house..... She'll tell you what I know son.
Blah, blah, blah... old obese fagg ::)
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The sun is the best thing to increase test, these guys sit in the sun all day and look at them.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8381/8492254693_211d13863d.jpg)
Where is Rich Piana when you need him ?
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I have a client that just brought this test booster ingredients look decent.
(http://c718858.r58.cf2.rackcdn.com/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/s/bsn_evotest.jpeg)
(http://www.bestmusclesupps.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bsn-evotest-nutrition.gif)
I heard EVO is about to be banned any truth on that ?
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I heard EVO is about to be banned any truth on that ?
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NAMED AFTER ONE OF GROINKS ALTER EGOS'EFFERESCENT'
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I heard EVO is about to be banned any truth on that ?
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it should be,...and BSN should be fined.....the ingredients on the label are clearly illegal and much too powerful to be in an over the counter supplement.......
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it should be,...and BSN should be fined.....the ingredients on the label are clearly illegal and much too powerful to be in an over the counter supplement.......
Do you know the lists of those to be banned? What about Gaspari's pro hormones ?
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Do you know the lists of those to be banned? What about Gaspari's pro hormones ?
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Well first of all GINGER ROOTS should be banned...the only time any one should be eating ginger is if its in chinese food.....Ginger is too powerful a substance to be bought over the counter...needs to be regulated.....As for Gaspari, I'm gonna wait for the CNN special report and then make up my mind then...
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Well first of all GINGER ROOTS should be banned...the only time any one should be eating ginger is if its in chinese food.....Ginger is too powerful a substance to be bought over the counter...needs to be regulated.....As for Gaspari, I'm gonna wait for the CNN special report and then make up my mind then...
MSNBC had a headline about Labrada nutrition but nothing on Gaspari yet ???
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One of the reasons that I stopped taking any of the 19-nor stuff in my 20's (when it first came out) was because of the libido/ED issues. Stuff just flat killed it.
But the muscle mass was evident ....a true Getbigger never quits on his quest to become a "mass monster"
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But the muscle mass was evident ....a true Getbigger never quits on his quest to become a "mass monster"
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agreed...a lifetime loss of sexual function should never ever stand in the way of being huge..true Getbiggers already know this...
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I'm starting EVO test this monday ...
Massive gains
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Best Natural Testosterone Booster?
1. Don't use steroids unless you want your body to shut down natural testosterone production.
2. Eat foods high in saturated fat.
3. Eat foods high in cholesterol.
4. Increasing your muscle to fat ratio, even a little, will make your body produce more natural testosterone. Lose a little more body fat, or increase a little more muscle mass or, even better, do both.
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Best Natural Testosterone Booster?
1. Don't use steroids unless you want your body to shut down natural testosterone production.
2. Eat foods high in saturated fat.
3. Eat foods high in cholesterol.
4. Increasing your muscle to fat ratio, even a little, will make your body produce more natural testosterone. Lose a little more body fat, or increase a little more muscle mass or, even better, do both.
There's a new testosterone booster at Walmart for $ 7.99 a bottle who can beat that ?
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There's a new testosterone booster at Walmart for $ 7.99 a bottle who can beat that ?
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It must be really good..we all know no retailer has a better reputation than Walmart................. ........................ ........................ .. ::)
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It must be really good..we all know no retailer has a better reputation than Walmart................. ........................ ........................ .. ::)
From the Makers of America's #1 Selling BodyBuilding Supplement Brands†
Study Result: Increase Free Testosterone in Just 7 Day*1
Maintain Peak Test to Cortisol Ratio*2
Scientific: Clinically Backed Ingredient Doses
Effective: Enhances Performance*2
Easy-to-Use: Take Twice Daily
Who is Professional Strength Testosterone Booster For?
BodyBuilders
Strength Athletes
What Benefits Does It Provide?
Test Subjects:
Stimulated Free Testosterone*
Maintained Peak Testosterone to Cortisol Ratio*
Enhanced Training Performance*
Study Result: Increase Free Testosterone in Just 7 Days
1: Professional Strength Testosterone Booster is formulated with a concentrated and precise dose of boron, which is shown in human clinical research to increase free testosterone in just 7 days. Free testosterone is the most active form of testosterone and is critical to initiating the process of muscle building.*
Naghii et al., 2011. Comp
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For $7.99 I'd give it a shot...if it doesn't work thats okay...at least I won't feel idiotic if I had spend the $79.99 that GNC would have charged....and I have found that supplements cost even more in Rite Aid
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For $7.99 I'd give it a shot...if it doesn't work thats okay...at least I won't feel idiotic if I had spend the $79.99 that GNC would have charged....and I have found that supplements cost even more in Rite Aid
true and true..whats up with riteaid/gnc combo store ,,only rhing I use dby gnc is mens formula multi 'it reeks'but its loaded for a multi...
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true and true..whats up with riteaid/gnc combo store ,,only rhing I use dby gnc is mens formula multi 'it reeks'but its loaded for a multi...
Those men's multi vitamins are the only thing in GNC worth buying.......
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Those men's multi vitamins are the only thing in GNC worth buying.......
YEAH,,,
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Those men's multi vitamins are the only thing in GNC worth buying.......
Fish oil
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For $7.99 I'd give it a shot...if it doesn't work thats okay...at least I won't feel idiotic if I had spend the $79.99 that GNC would have charged....and I have found that supplements cost even more in Rite Aid
I've been using for 2 weeks it is a bit over 10 bucks still not a bad deal I have felt some euphoric rush on the tip of mushroom so, there might be something that actually boost the testosterone there .
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I've been using for 2 weeks it is a bit over 10 bucks still not a bad deal I have felt some euphoric rush on the tip of mushroom so, there might be something that actually boost the testosterone there .
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OUted, but we already know that...
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OUted, but we already know that...
I was referring to my own mushroom tip, not dropingplates.... Oppsss outed again ;D
Wooosshhhhhhhh. TA NA KA
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Was this taken off the market recently ?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538433;image)
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Driven Sports Triazole
Only test booster that actually worked when i was natty.
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Driven Sports Triazole
Only test booster that actually worked when i was natty.
I heard is very good actually, It helps reduce the amount of the hormone estrogen in the body, but it brings severe pain in the joints ...
Is that true ? I cant really afford any soreness in joints at this point
Im not a spring chicken .
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I heard is very good actually, It helps reduce the amount of the hormone estrogen in the body, but it brings severe pain in the joints ...
Is that true ? I cant really afford any soreness in joints at this point
Im not a spring chicken .
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If you're not a spring chicken just get hrt.
Wooooooosh
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Was this taken off the market recently ?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538433;image)
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Still have a sealed bottle I got last year, but I kept reading about how harsh the sides could be, so I never could bring myself to take them. I finally told myself to stop being a pussy and accept the needle into my life.
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Couple friends of mine swear they see results with DAA and Olympus Labs Super PCT
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81ZIYHIK5sL._SX522_.jpg)
They look pretty decent so I dont know...
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Couple friends of mine swear they see results with DAA and Olympus Labs Super PCT
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81ZIYHIK5sL._SX522_.jpg)
They look pretty decent so I dont know...
Is this intended to be used after a cycle?
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Is this intended to be used after a cycle?
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Based on the name i guess so, I mean its got black pepper fruit extract so that must do something special.
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I heard is very good actually, It helps reduce the amount of the hormone estrogen in the body, but it brings severe pain in the joints ...
Is that true ? I cant really afford any soreness in joints at this point
Im not a spring chicken .
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It wont give you joint pains, its just a bunch of herbal stuff I dont think it drops your estrogen nearly as low as chemical AIs.
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It wont give you joint pains, its just a bunch of herbal stuff I dont think it drops your estrogen nearly as low as chemical AIs.
What about methyl tren? So far I heard while you become leaner keeping size, it has similar side effects as chemicals Ais".
Hair loss from a bunch of herbs ? I mean There's got to be more in it to give you steroids like results ...
This is a thread for those avoiding the syringe of course.
Woooshhhhhhh
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What about methyl tren? So far I heard while you become leaner keeping size, it has similar side effects as chemicals Ais".
Hair loss from a bunch of herbs ? I mean There's got to be more in it to give you steroids like results ...
This is a thread for those avoiding the syringe of course.
Woooshhhhhhh
methyl tren is banned or off the market,i'm sure it could or accelerate hair loss it works well i'm told..
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methyl tren is banned or off the market,i'm sure it could or accelerate hair loss it works well i'm told..
That sucks .
unless you throw minoxidil in to avoid the hear loss effect
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My top picks for natural testosterone boosters:
1. D Aspartic Acid
2. Testopro
3. Tribx90
4. NOW FOODS Horny Goat Weed with Maca
5. Optimum Nutrition ZMA
6. T-Bomb 3xtreme
7. Bioforge
Now, obviously you're not going to take them all at once. It is critical that they are all cycled in and out of the stack properly. I am something of an expert in this area and I will be happy to answer any questions regarding how to stack these test boosters. I also design diets and weight lifting programs as well.
Thanks a lot for the info, btw youre the first one that recommends Testopro .... as I heard it doesn't work at all from people that have taken up to 2 bottles .
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My top picks for natural testosterone boosters:
1. D Aspartic Acid
2. Testopro
3. Tribx90
4. NOW FOODS Horny Goat Weed with Maca
5. Optimum Nutrition ZMA
6. T-Bomb 3xtreme
7. Bioforge
Now, obviously you're not going to take them all at once. It is critical that they are all cycled in and out of the stack properly. I am something of an expert in this area and I will be happy to answer any questions regarding how to stack these test boosters. I also design diets and weight lifting programs as well.
Post a few pics of your kick ass results... Lol. Fuccking moron - run along before you actually sell your scam service to one of these clowns... Come to professional muscle and tell us about your theories .... Maybe try to get an invite to Animals board..
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Thanks a lot for the info, btw youre the first one that recommends Testopro .... as I heard it doesn't work at all from people that have taken up to 2 bottles .
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You feedin' this troll for real???
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You feedin' this troll for real???
Apparently.
No natural test boosters work as good as testostosterone and a lot of supplements are actually much worst in terms of side-effect then "real" steroids.
If I could go back in time, I would tell my younger self to start juicing sooner and go take that coffee with my high school biology teacher.
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I can't believe people are still buying tribulus after all the studies that prove it's ineffective in humans.
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Apparently.
No natural test boosters work as good as testostosterone and a lot of supplements are actually much worst in terms of side-effect then "real" steroids.
If I could go back in time, I would tell my younger self to start juicing sooner and go take that coffee with my high school biology teacher.
topical formestane was the only AI I ever used that worked but that stuff was grey area.
What you said about starting gear sooner is true. I waited much too long, I kept thinking I could be where I wanted to be with one more year, one more year, one more year... Cost is even higher natty.
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Apparently.
No natural test boosters work as good as testostosterone and a lot of supplements are actually much worst in terms of side-effect then "real" steroids.
If I could go back in time, I would tell my younger self to start juicing sooner and go take that coffee with my high school biology teacher.
Hope it wasn't a male
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Apparently.
No natural test boosters work as good as testosterone and a lot of supplements are actually much worst in terms of side-effect then "real" steroids.
If I could go back in time, I would tell my younger self to start juicing sooner and go take that coffee with my high school biology teacher.
I don't think anyone has said natural test booster are even close to what you can achieve with steroids....
So far I've seen people who have obtained great results from using :
1- Methyl Tren 550
2-Triazole
3- Sup3r PCT
They block estrogen,they boost your energy, strength etc Not saying these supps are 100 % safe with no side effects, But you can check the reviews on Amazon or any site where they are sold ....
They're cheap , you don't need to do post cycles and NOT dealing with syringes .
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the original gasparie "novadex xt" f'in worked. No idea how or why, but I was pushing decent weights on that stuff and gained mass.
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the original gasparie "novadex xt" f'in worked. No idea how or why, but I was pushing decent weights on that stuff and gained mass.
Yes. I remember did a cycle of some designer steroid and then used Gaspari novadex for pct, it worked better than the actual steroid. :D
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Yes. I remember did a cycle of some designer steroid and then used Gaspari novadex for pct, it worked better than the actual steroid. :D
And that is why the stuff is beyond sketchy...
A lot of "post cycle gyno" from the supps in that era.
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Has anyone heard of Helica Pharm - Stage 1 Evolution Rejuvenation?
It cost around $75.00
but you can get lean, great sex drive, and have a good night sleep with it ....
(http://img.scoop.it/n2AosA6yNU3HiAua3fi_1Tl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBVvK0kTmF0xjctABnaLJIm9)
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Has anyone heard of Helica Pharm - Stage 1 Evolution Rejuvenation?
It cost around $75.00
but you can get lean, great sex drive, and have a good night sleep with it ....
(http://img.scoop.it/n2AosA6yNU3HiAua3fi_1Tl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBVvK0kTmF0xjctABnaLJIm9)
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I can buy a lot of test for $75, lol...
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Yes. I remember did a cycle of some designer steroid and then used Gaspari novadex for pct, it worked better than the actual steroid. :D
thats why the government went after Gaspari......his stuff ACTUALLY WORKED......the government doesn't go after the Bullshit supps because they do absolutely nothing...if they did, the FDA and other government agencies would be all over them..thats why Hydroxycut doesn't have ephedra in it any more...that worked too
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For those of you who have tried legal stuff over the counter Natural Testosterone Booster ? which one would you say helps a bit?
This one has good reviews online
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41MgKHYa5aL.jpg)
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( might as well piss your money away...
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pregnant women urine
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pregnant women urine
From any race?
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Get lots of sleep and don't force your body to wake up at the fucking crack of dawn every morning and disrupt your deep sleep cycle like modern society expects you to
Wish I could follow your advice but I don't have that option, being poor sucks
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pregnant women urine
Tom cruise drinks it hence his youthful image.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538439;image)
It doesn't put stress in your liver as conventional steroids do......
You can ever drink the occasional beer on weekends and remain healthy.
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Is this back on the shelves?
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something tells me you are a vendor for that shit all along
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Is this back on the shelves?
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NO WAY....
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i'm taking 750mg of test per week
For how nay weeks now?
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Jerry Brainum, a science writer and someone without ties to the supplement industry, says all test raising supplements are worthless with one exception: tongkat ali.
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Is this intended to be used after a cycle?
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Yes (PCT), but it has Arimistane in it, so that is proven to work (mildly).
But it basically knocks down estrogen, rather than raise test. (Test to estrogen ratio's will be better I guess).
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Yes (PCT), but it has Arimistane in it, so that is proven to work (mildly).
But it basically knocks down estrogen, rather than raise test. (Test to estrogen ratio's will be better I guess).
I have a few products, very good for test boosting actually and for a fairly good price I can post some names, later as I had all the info in my iPad liquid
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Is this back on the shelves?
WooSSHHHHHHHHH
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Yes...
http://iconsupplements.com/products/methyl-tren-xt.html (http://iconsupplements.com/products/methyl-tren-xt.html)
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^^
Yes...
http://iconsupplements.com/products/methyl-tren-xt.html (http://iconsupplements.com/products/methyl-tren-xt.html)
REVIEWS ARE IMPRESSIVE ,2 WK GAINS IN SIZE/STRENGHT /HARDNESS...
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REVIEWS ARE IMPRESSIVE ,2 WK GAINS IN SIZE/STRENGHT /HARDNESS...
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It WORKS just make sure you take PCT they sell that too... there's a good multi-spectrum one (covers liver protection, estrogen, gyno, etc...)
http://iconsupplements.com/products/xtreme-pct-90ct.html (http://iconsupplements.com/products/xtreme-pct-90ct.html)
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^^
It WORKS just make sure you take PCT they sell that too... there's a good multi-spectrum one (covers liver protection, estrogen, gyno, etc...)
http://iconsupplements.com/products/xtreme-pct-90ct.html (http://iconsupplements.com/products/xtreme-pct-90ct.html)
I have a feeling this is what 'naturals'use in natural federations that are lie detectored and can get away with it,,,this stuff gives a drug look...
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I have a feeling this is what 'naturals'use in natural federations that are lie detectored and can get away with it,,,this stuff gives a drug look...
Isn't that what every gym goer/bodybuilder wants ? the "drug look" without all the negative stuff that comes with it
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Isn't that what every gym goer/bodybuilder wants ? the "drug look" without all the negative stuff that comes with it
of course ,,just stating on a competitive level its an easy way to stay clean 'drugged'...
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^^
Yes...
http://iconsupplements.com/products/methyl-tren-xt.html (http://iconsupplements.com/products/methyl-tren-xt.html)
Looks impressive.
Anyone have experience, how are the side-effects?
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Jerry Brainum, a science writer and someone without ties to the supplement industry, says all test raising supplements are worthless with one exception: tongkat ali.
I wouldn't take advice from someone who is as out of shape as he is. He's a mess.
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I wouldn't take advice from someone who is as out of shape as he is. He's a mess.
That's a pretty lame comment. I'm pretty sure that his resume is 100000x more impressive than yours, mr average joe the construction worker ::)
http://www.appliedmetabolics.com/about/
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That's a pretty lame comment. I'm pretty sure that his resume is 100000x more impressive than yours, mr average joe the construction worker ::)
http://www.appliedmetabolics.com/about/
I'm not a construction worker and I retired at 52 living in a big house with an inground pool with two brand new paid off cars. I severely doubt that apartment living fat guy has a resume more impressive than I do. I doubt you have the means to buy a decent house. You probably live with your mother. That's why you have such a nice outlook on life.
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I'm not a construction worker and I retired at 52 living in a big house with an inground pool with two brand new paid off cars. I severely doubt that apartment living fat guy has a resume more impressive than I do. I doubt you have the means to buy a decent house. You probably live with your mother. That's why you have such a nice outlook on life.
LOL, as if I do give a fuck about your profession or your house, and yes, I've seen the pictures of your bunker, so -wow- you lift weights ::) Dude, you're nothing but a pathetic whiner without any original thoughts. And calling yourself 'oldtimer' at the age of 52?! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
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I'm not a construction worker and I retired at 52 living in a big house with an inground pool with two brand new paid off cars. I severely doubt that apartment living fat guy has a resume more impressive than I do. I doubt you have the means to buy a decent house. You probably live with your mother. That's why you have such a nice outlook on life.
I like your style. You win
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Jerry Brainum back in the 1970's..
This is me during my competitive bodybuilding days, about the time I was training at the original Gold's gym with Arnold and other bodybuilding greats of that era.
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Jerry Brainum back in the 1970's..
This is me during my competitive bodybuilding days, about the time I was training at the original Gold's gym with Arnold and other bodybuilding greats of that era.
Pics or lies.
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The second line is the caption for that pic.
That is indeed Brainum.
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Pics or lies.
^^
Didn't you see the photo?? Everyone else did!
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Taking real test is cheaper and the results are better if you are afraid of injecting then you can buy some testosterone undecanoate tabs you can get 50 tablets for about $45 way better than any supplement you could take.
This.
WoooSHHHHHHHH
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This.
WoooSHHHHHHHH
Pills? Are you trying to lose your liver?
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This.
WoooSHHHHHHHH
So it took you over a year to realize this, haha
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I suck my own cock.
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I suck my own cock.
Why?....Dropping Plates will suck it for you
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Why?....Dropping Plates will suck it for you
Do you realize that all of your post suck, chimpleton?
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Do you realize that all of your post suck, chimpleton?
he really is dumb
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=399937.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=399937.0)
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Best test booster: overhead squats
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Best test booster: overhead squats Injected test and HCG...
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Looks impressive.
Anyone have experience, how are the side-effects?
I believe Groink has some experience with it. You might want to ask on the steroid board. IIRC, it's a 17-AA steroid that's particularly liver damaging, so it needs to be run in tight cycles or jaundice does set in. Oh the irony of steroids that the injectable kind is usually milder on the body than the orals.
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Find a schmoe and you'll be paid to ingest test straight from the source.
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Bestest natural testosterone booster I can think of is a good looking, 100% natural woman. ;D
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Bestest natural testosterone booster I can think of is a good looking, 100% natural woman. ;D
99.99% of them are smartphone & FB addicted, listen to crappy music or have fucked up values, so good luck with finding a 'natural' one...
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99.99% of them are smartphone & FB addicted, listen to crappy music or have fucked up values, so good luck with finding a 'natural' one...
I agree, my friend. It's not like I run into one all the time but the cellphone idiots certainly run into me. And a host of other "obstacles" as well. ;D
If I want to see one now I suppose I could just look for a Playboy Centerfold circa 1968 or so. The centerfold pictures, not the woman as she is now. Dammit! ;D
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I agree, my friend. It's not like I run into one all the time but the cellphone idiots certainly run into me. And a host of other "obstacles" as well. ;D
If I want to see one now I suppose I could just look for a Playboy Centerfold circa 1968 or so. The centerfold pictures, not the woman as she is now. Dammit! ;D
Maybe you should join the Amish?
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Maybe you should join the Amish?
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Then he can use this after workouts!!
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Then he can use this after workouts!!
Ha! :D
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Amish...LOL! As a kid I lived around Mennonites. Quiet folk, but certainly "different". I would make a poor Amish or Mennonite as I like music and movies far too much.
And I don't much care for midnight barn raising.
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Then he can use this after workouts!!
WooSHHHHH
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WooSHHHHH
Still afraid of the needle?
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Bestest natural testosterone booster I can think of is a good looking, 100% natural woman. ;D
I don't believe that exists anymore.
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I don't believe that exists anymore.
This..
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They exist, but the results are neglectable for most people.
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They exist, but the results are neglectable for most people.
Maybe you should raise your standards
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Happy Jueves santo ....
What's good new and over the counter ??
Wooshhhhhhhhh
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What about this one ?
Highly recommended over the weekend
WoShhhh TA NA KA
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(http://pregnancytips.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Clomid-helps-to-stimulate-the-ovaries-into-producing-mature-eggs-when-they-otherwise-wouldn%E2%80%99t-be-able-to.jpg)
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THREAD CLOSED !!! ;)
(http://www.imageweb.ws/media/images/1/pussy-spread/pussy-spread-865195.jpg)
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THREAD CLOSED !!! ;)
(http://www.imageweb.ws/media/images/1/pussy-spread/pussy-spread-865195.jpg)
Bathroom mirror is concave, would not hit.
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(http://pregnancytips.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Clomid-helps-to-stimulate-the-ovaries-into-producing-mature-eggs-when-they-otherwise-wouldn%E2%80%99t-be-able-to.jpg)
Theses can be toxic to liver .
WoooSHHHHHH
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Today at 6:30 pm (Eastern time) begins summer
So, I'll switch Glenlivet 18 to just light beer...
and will give this prohormone stack a try
WoooSHHHHHHHh ROCK ME AMADEUS
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Yeah, and rock your liver :-\
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Why would those or something like them work any more than pure fart powder?
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Yeah, and rock your liver :-\
Not if you throw a Liver Cleanse Kit to the mix papi,
besides it will be for 6 weeks only ..
WoooSH
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(http://pregnancytips.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Clomid-helps-to-stimulate-the-ovaries-into-producing-mature-eggs-when-they-otherwise-wouldn%E2%80%99t-be-able-to.jpg)
This doesn't look over the counter.
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Not if you throw a Liver Cleanse Kit to the mix papi,
besides it will be for 6 weeks only ..
WoooSH
Listen friend, this whole detoxification theory by supps/foods is nothing but a myth since there isn't any verified scientific literature that shows otherwise . The body is already cleansing itself, and you can't give this process a boost; it functions or it doesn't.
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There was a lot of good natural advice in this thread. Eat natural foods, avoid processed refined stuff. Don't drink in excess and avoid drugs. Get enough sleep, avoid excessive stress. Do challenging compound movements like squats and deadlifts. Have a confident, winning mentally but don't be an asshole. If that doesn't work then you probably are a real candidate for trt.
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There was a lot of good natural advice in this thread. Eat natural foods, avoid processed refined stuff. Don't drink in excess and avoid drugs. Get enough sleep, avoid excessive stress. Do challenging compound movements like squats and deadlifts. Have a confident, winning mentally but don't be an asshole. If that doesn't work then you probably are a real candidate for trt.
Thanks, info like that is very much appreciated ..... and it has to be reminded every other week.
WoooSHHHHH BE YE KE
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There was a lot of good natural advice in this thread. Eat natural foods, avoid processed refined stuff. Don't drink in excess and avoid drugs. Get enough sleep, avoid excessive stress. Do challenging compound movements like squats and deadlifts. Have a confident, winning mentally but don't be an asshole. If that doesn't work then you probably are a real candidate for trt.
All of that is just the basics so you aren't causing your own deficiency through stupid stuff, none will come close to countering a deficiency in a regular normal person who is living and eating normal.
One of the best things Dan Duchaine ever wrote was something like: food is not a drug, food is food and doesn't work like a drug. A drug works regardless of diet sleep, etc. you know a drug is working.
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All of that is just the basics so you aren't causing your own deficiency through stupid stuff, none will come close to countering a deficiency in a regular normal person who is living and eating normal.
One of the best things Dan Duchaine ever wrote was something like: food is not a drug, food is food and doesn't work like a drug. A drug works regardless of diet sleep, etc. you know a drug is working.
That should be said on the cover of the next Flex mag .
WoooSHHHHHHHHH
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All of that is just the basics so you aren't causing your own deficiency through stupid stuff, none will come close to countering a deficiency in a regular normal person who is living and eating normal.
One of the best things Dan Duchaine ever wrote was something like: food is not a drug, food is food and doesn't work like a drug. A drug works regardless of diet sleep, etc. you know a drug is working.
Yeah but the body makes its own drugs from food. It still has, though, administrative rights. It decides what's enough. Even vitamin d is technically a steroid.
It's when you introduce drugs into your system, you become the administrator.
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A PDF of that original handbook is impossible to find and a hard copy goes for over $100 on eBay.
Someone should post a snippet if they have the exact quote. Also there was something at the end about a rabbit always being in a hat, that I thought was pretty wise.
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A PDF of that original handbook is impossible to find and a hard copy goes for over $100 on eBay.
Someone should post a snippet if they have the exact quote. Also there was something at the end about a rabbit always being in a hat, that I thought was pretty wise.
X2.
WooSHHHHHHHH
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Bump ....
;D
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Sometimes it is what you don't "supplement" with, that can boost your test levels naturally.
I found this book to be a very interesting read:
THE ANTI-ESTROGENIC DIET: HOW ESTROGENIC FOODS AND CHEMICALS ARE MAKING YOU FAT AND SICK By Ori Hofmekier
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20 rep squats will release your testosterone
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20 rep squats will release your testosterone
Is someone holding it captive?
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Something that actually works.
Use 4 instead of 2 capsules a day though.
(https://sscontent.secure.footprint.net/products/523/olimp_testoxeed-120-caps_1.png)
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Today at 6:30 pm (Eastern time) begins summer
So, I'll switch Glenlivet 18 to just light beer...
and will give this prohormone stack a try
WoooSHHHHHHHh ROCK ME AMADEUS
what results like on this stack?
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20 rep squats will release your testosterone
I heard this both in latin America and in the USA .. I wonder who came up with this or what's the story behind it ?
WoooSHHHHHH
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You were 20 when deca first came out?? :o
;D
WooSHHHHHHHHHH
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The best test booster is royal jelly its the only substance that was scientifically proven to increase test levels in young healthy males with normal test levels, their levels went up by 14 percent over a period of 3 months compared to those to did not take it.
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some solid advice in this thread.
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The best test booster is royal jelly its the only substance that was scientifically proven to increase test levels in young healthy males with normal test levels, their levels went up by 14 percent over a period of 3 months compared to those to did not take it.
Will give it a go .
Thanks wooshhhhhhhh
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Get lots of sleep and don't force your body to wake up at the fucking crack of dawn every morning and disrupt your deep sleep cycle like modern society expects you to
I wish .
WooOSHHHHHH
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(https://blog.priceplow.com/wp-content/uploads/alri-metanabol.png)
The latest round of legal prohormones are led by the Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals family, and one brand that they own is ALR Industries, who have an aggressive new “general purpose” prohormone named Metanabol.
As with all prohormones, the same rules are going to apply:
Experienced users only – ages 23 and up suggested
Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) is required
Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) is required (due to the 4-andro inside)
Blood tests are required before, during, and after your cycle
On cycle therapy support supplement highly suggested
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Get lots of sleep and don't force your body to wake up at the fucking crack of dawn every morning and disrupt your deep sleep cycle like modern society expects you to
This.
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Man gravy and bathing in tubs of orphan blood/tears works well.
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20 rep squats will release your testosterone
How many sets?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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(https://68.media.tumblr.com/05ae04e163c293902ac110b0b2fac15f/tumblr_omrmenLiOu1tnaufeo1_1280.jpg)(https://68.media.tumblr.com/1226048990fa268c5e0195d380058452/tumblr_omrmenLiOu1tnaufeo3_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/f43fba46f96823a64024641b78be8bb4/tumblr_on1aesiCbf1uzd0rro1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/2ac58913a6bca0655d7e3520a1da445a/tumblr_olxk58reH81uzd0rro1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/332e4af4d384ebb446364ba2d27a5a48/tumblr_omk2q5IYsY1uzd0rro1_1280.jpg)
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Theses can be toxic to liver .
WoooSHHHHHH
And the other garbage posted in this thread isnt?
The people who buy these natural test boosters deserve to lose their money. Idiots would rather take shit that doesnt work and is 3x as expensive, over shit thats proven effective, just because they can buy it at a vitamin shop.
If the garbage worked, itd be a prescription drug.
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ALL GARBAGE
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Not if you throw a Liver Cleanse Kit to the mix papi,
besides it will be for 6 weeks only ..
WoooSH
"Liver cleanse",will likely be more garbage like mik thistle, whos active ingredient, silymarin, works in a petri-dish, but isnt absorbable by the body.
And 6 weeks isnt nearly long enough to have significant results even with anabolics that work.
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Is someone holding it captive?
The Firmament
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(https://68.media.tumblr.com/05ae04e163c293902ac110b0b2fac15f/tumblr_omrmenLiOu1tnaufeo1_1280.jpg)(https://68.media.tumblr.com/1226048990fa268c5e0195d380058452/tumblr_omrmenLiOu1tnaufeo3_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/f43fba46f96823a64024641b78be8bb4/tumblr_on1aesiCbf1uzd0rro1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/2ac58913a6bca0655d7e3520a1da445a/tumblr_olxk58reH81uzd0rro1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/332e4af4d384ebb446364ba2d27a5a48/tumblr_omk2q5IYsY1uzd0rro1_1280.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/9f5961b7716847f84c0f3f8e6ccd30d2/tumblr_ol0yejJ3zr1uzd0rro1_1280.jpg)
"Theses can be toxic to liver"
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(https://blog.priceplow.com/wp-content/uploads/alri-metanabol.png)
The latest round of legal prohormones are led by the Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals family, and one brand that they own is ALR Industries, who have an aggressive new “general purpose” prohormone named Metanabol.
As with all prohormones, the same rules are going to apply:
Experienced users only – ages 23 and up suggested
Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) is required
Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) is required (due to the 4-andro inside)
Blood tests are required before, during, and after your cycle
On cycle therapy support supplement highly suggested
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Couple that with muscle plasma expanders from cell tech, and we are talking dangerous gains.
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"Theses can be toxic to liver"
Specially for most getbiggers. Lol
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A possible testosterone booster side effect is damage to the kidneys if the supplement is used over a long period of time.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TA NA KA
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Great post by Kwon on this page
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Great post by Kwon on this page
So far they haven't found an accurate way to measure his natural test levels.
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Great post by Kwon on this page
Did it raise some o dat dere test-levels? ;D
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Theses can be toxic to liver .
WoooSHHHHHH
There are studies linking it to cancer. Used in males temporarily to increase fertility. While it definitely increases testosterone as "side" effect it has never been approved for this use in the US I believe. A doctor put me on Clomid and I went from 300 to 550 on my testosterone test. Another doctor told me about the cancer risk and said that doctor was wrong to put me on that indefinitely. Never studied for long term year in and out use. There are studies linking it to cancer in males when used short term for fertility treatment to increase sperm production. Clomid works in the brain; in specific the pituitary to increase luteinizing hormone. The first doctor a urologist was concerned with long term testosterone use increasing the size of the prostate and in particular changing the viscosity of blood making it a risk factor for heart attacks. I guess he wasn't concerned the risk factor for cancer. I don't use anything now. Went to an endocrinologist and he said one of the best ways to increase testosterone is to get lean.
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"Liver cleanse",will likely be more garbage like mik thistle, whos active ingredient, silymarin, works in a petri-dish, but isnt absorbable by the body.
And 6 weeks isnt nearly long enough to have significant results even with anabolics that work.
Support your claims.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21466434
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95% forskolin boosts test by increasing cyclic adenosine monophosphate. My test levels measured 37% above the upper normal level while using it. My doctor thought I was already on TRT.
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95% forskolin boosts test by increasing cyclic adenosine monophosphate. My test levels measured 37% above the upper normal level while using it. My doctor thought I was already on TRT.
95 % foreskin? What's the other 5%?
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95 % foreskin? What's the other 5%?
Most forskolin brands are 20% or less and don't do much.
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95 % foreskin? What's the other 5%?
aftskin.
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aftskin.
;D
Damn that was funny!
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aftskin.
Slowclap, excellent
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getting leaner will increase your test levels, mother nature at its best.
I'm fuked :'(
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Is this out of the market ?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538439;image)
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I heard it does wonder to your liver !!! ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=538439;image)
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This one is believed to be gentle to your liver, a Natural Testosterone Booster Increases Energy, Libido & Burns Belly Fat A Gluten Free Vegan Male Enhancement With Ashwagandha, Horny Goat Weed, Tribulus Terrestris, Hawthorn - Boosts Metabolism baby !
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BE YE KE
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This one is believed to be gentle to your liver, a Natural Testosterone Booster Increases Energy, Libido & Burns Belly Fat A Gluten Free Vegan Male Enhancement With Ashwagandha, Horny Goat Weed, Tribulus Terrestris, Hawthorn - Boosts Metabolism baby !
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BE YE KE
And the FDA is OK with these non-scientific claims?
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And the FDA OK with these non-scientific claims?
Not only that, the reviews on Amazon from costumers are so fake they all start with " My husband started using it amazing results so far "
...... lol better do an infomercial .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH
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This one seems legit ( herbal wise) as natural energy booster
WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Not only that, the reviews on Amazon from costumers are so fake they all start with " My husband started using it amazing results so far "
...... lol better do an infomercial .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH
Yeah, you see this shit all the time. It becomes harder and harder to find objective reviews on supplements. Well...., not just on supplements :-\
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Has any of our Nattys tried this one ye t?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=734734;image)
WoooSHHHHHH PAPERGODS
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crazy gains I got
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A couple of points I would like to make: 1. Pro-hormones don't qualify as "natural". 2. Stick with what has already been proven to work: D-Aspartic Acid, 90% saponins Bulgarian Tribulus, Longjack, fenugreek, ZMA, some boron preparations.
Cycling these products is an art. Timing is everything.
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A couple of points I would like to make: 1. Pro-hormones don't qualify as "natural". 2. Stick with what has already been proven to work: D-Aspartic Acid, 90% saponins Bulgarian Tribulus, Longjack, fenugreek, ZMA, some boron preparations.
Cycling these products is an art. Timing is everything.
Even a TRT dose would blow these 'boosters' away. All the positive research behind tribulus terrestris is funded by.... the industry.
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Even a TRT dose would blow these 'boosters' away. All the positive research behind tribulus terrestris is funded by.... the industry.
Some people say that. However, hair loss, shrunken testicles, acne, accelerated prostate cancer, etc. aren't acceptable to me. That's why natural supplementation will ALWAYS be sought after. The effectiveness of creatine, whey protein, tribulus, DAA, is established. Genetics obviously play a part, as does knowledge of how to workout properly and nutrient timing. So, yes, if you are a typically insulin resistant, dehydrated individual who hasn't the genetics for bodybuilding, drugs may be the only answer. But if you have the genetics and take the time to intelligently research the various aspects of human physiology and psychology, the strides that can be made are mind blowing.
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Some people say that. However, hair loss, shrunken testicles, acne, accelerated prostate cancer, etc. aren't acceptable to me. That's why natural supplementation will ALWAYS be sought after. The effectiveness of creatine, whey protein, tribulus, DAA, is established. Genetics obviously play a part, as does knowledge of how to workout properly and nutrient timing. So, yes, if you are a typically insulin resistant, dehydrated individual who hasn't the genetics for bodybuilding, drugs may be the only answer. But if you have the genetics and take the time to intelligently research the various aspects of human physiology and psychology, the strides that can be made are mind blowing.
That's a well-written 2nd post and I salute you for that.
A generally accepted TRT dose is 200-250 mg every 2 weeks, which is nothing compared to bodybuilding dosages, often ranging from 250-1000 mg (or higher)/week. A TRT dosage will mimic the test levels of a 20-30 year old. So, in other words, the side effects will be very limited.
I can't say much about DAA, but here's an interesting read regarding tribulus terrestris:
"It was already known that the manufacturers’ claims for tribulus supplements are not true. In 2008, doping hunters at the University of Lausanne in Switzerland reported that they had not been able to find any hormonal effects in tribulus users. Three years before, Bulgarian researchers had discovered that healthy men do not produce more testosterone as a result of taking Tribulus terrestris, [J Ethnopharmacol. 2005 Oct 3;101(1-3):319-23.] and five years before that, sports scientists at the University of Nebraska reported that power athletes had nothing to gain from taking tribulus. [Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2000 Jun;10(2):208-15.]"
http://www.ergo-log.com/tribnoeffect.html
The article also states that there might be some evidence for effectiveness of tribulus alatus (see http://www.ergo-log.com/tribulusalatus.html), but a single study says close to nothing
The first things that a serious lifter should pay attention to are the fundamentals: nutrition, training and sleep. I know, there's nothing groundbreaking about that ;)
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has anyone here done legit blood work with using natural test boosters?
baseline ratios/levels
then 6 months later after natural test boosters?
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has anyone here done legit blood work with using natural test boosters?
baseline ratios/levels
then 6 months later after natural test boosters?
You can't draw conclusions based on only a single case.
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You can't draw conclusions based on only a single case.
got it.....prolly 3-5 year timeline
good thread
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got it.....prolly 3-5 year timeline
good thread
A longer time period might give more relevant results, but I'm wondering how effective a 'booster' would be on the long run. (IF it's actually effective, which often isn't the case)
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A longer time period might give more relevant results, but I'm wondering how effective a 'booster' would be on the long run. (IF it's actually effective, which often isn't the case)
I get annual blood work around my bday (test, estrogen, hdl, ldl, kidney, liver,
Ill find out soon
(http://elitemensguide.com/assets/Total-Testosterone-Range-Chart.png)
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I get annual blood work around my bday (test, estrogen, hdl, ldl, kidney, liver,
Ill find out soon
(http://elitemensguide.com/assets/Total-Testosterone-Range-Chart.png)
I should do that as well, but this stuff is fucking expensive here in Europe, plus we hardly have doctors who want to explain the outcome.
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That's a well-written 2nd post and I salute you for that.
A generally accepted TRT dose is 200-250 mg every 2 weeks, which is nothing compared to bodybuilding dosages, often ranging from 250-1000 mg (or higher)/week. A TRT dosage will mimic the test levels of a 20-30 year old. So, in other words, the side effects will be very limited.
I can't say much about DAA, but here's an interesting read regarding tribulus terrestris:
"It was already known that the manufacturers’ claims for tribulus supplements are not true. In 2008, doping hunters at the University of Lausanne in Switzerland reported that they had not been able to find any hormonal effects in tribulus users. Three years before, Bulgarian researchers had discovered that healthy men do not produce more testosterone as a result of taking Tribulus terrestris, [J Ethnopharmacol. 2005 Oct 3;101(1-3):319-23.] and five years before that, sports scientists at the University of Nebraska reported that power athletes had nothing to gain from taking tribulus. [Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2000 Jun;10(2):208-15.]"
http://www.ergo-log.com/tribnoeffect.html
The article also states that there might be some evidence for effectiveness of tribulus alatus (see http://www.ergo-log.com/tribulusalatus.html), but a single study says close to nothing
The first things that a serious lifter should pay attention to are the fundamentals: nutrition, training and sleep. I know, there's nothing groundbreaking about that ;)
I would have several questions about the study. What brand and dosage of tribulus? What was the diet and workout program of the test subjects? What were their lipids and triglycerides like? If the test subjects were insulin resistant, then it would be difficult or impossible to make anything happen.
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I would have several questions about the study. What brand and dosage of tribulus? What was the diet and workout program of the test subjects? What were their lipids and triglycerides like? If the test subjects were insulin resistant, then it would be difficult or impossible to make anything happen.
One of the studies was published in an Elsevier paper, which AFAIK are never public domain studies. Only the dosages were stated in the synopsis, a 10 and a 20mg / per kg bw group. What's interesting is the diversity of both groups with an age range from 20-36 years and a weight range from 60-125 kg. It would be hard to imagine when a 20 year/60 kg guy already experienced insulin resistance.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378874105003314?via%3Dihub
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I should do that as well, but this stuff is fucking expensive here in Europe, plus we hardly have doctors who want to explain the outcome.
https://www.privatemdlabs.com/
how many of US bros get it. get it ordered, go to a lab corp place then they give you the results via email. you need to research areas of it via thresholds but it is pretty simple
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https://www.privatemdlabs.com/
how many of US bros get it. get it ordered, go to a lab corp place then they give you the results via email. you need to research areas of it via thresholds but it is pretty simple
Yeah, I remember Stan Efferding about this company. Unfortunately, the legislation is different here in Europe. They only prescribe test (gel in most cases) when you're a 60-70+ 'man'.
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I ran a cycle of this. Came out bigger, harder and more vascular.
I just started this last Friday. It is my segway from low dose test into a clomid restart. I swear, I could feel the difference
already. Gained a couple of pounds too.
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I ran a cycle of this. Came out bigger, harder and more vascular.
Never heard of this one .
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It is very similar to N2Generate but at a fraction of the cost.
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It is very similar to N2Generate but at a fraction of the cost.
Does it has Methy tren or any liver grinder ingredients ?
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Does it has Methy tren or any liver grinder ingredients ?
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Good, solid question. No, it doesn't appear to has any liver grinding ingredients.
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Good, solid question. No, it doesn't appear to has any liver grinding ingredients.
(http://4imgs.com/1049/sys/prod/26207_2_0_0.JPG)
Thanks, I'll give it a go
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Can I boost my testosterone or not?
Legitimate, working testosterone boosters do exist, but they’re not very exciting. They’re not life-changing because, at most, they’ll increase testosterone levels by 20-50%. Compare that to a low-dose steroid cycle, which offers a 300% increase minimum.
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/07/10/do-testosterone-boosting-supplements-work/
Still...in 2017 it seems like a scam.
Here's what works for everybody:
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Can I boost my testosterone or not?
Take enough cum up the ass and *you* can!
;D ;D ;D
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WTF?
Now your following me in regular threads Poodle?
come on...what are you like 15?
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WTF?
Now your following me in regular threads Poodle?
come on...what are you like 15?
Why don't you post on your other account in the regular threads and leave you alter ego fake gay account alone for a while?
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Why don't you post on your other account in the regular threads and leave you alter ego fake gay account alone for a while?
sorry mate i cant do that
wait--wat
FUCK now im busted....
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Can I boost my testosterone or not?
Legitimate, working testosterone boosters do exist, but they’re not very exciting. They’re not life-changing because, at most, they’ll increase testosterone levels by 20-50%. Compare that to a low-dose steroid cycle, which offers a 300% increase minimum.
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/07/10/do-testosterone-boosting-supplements-work/
Still...in 2017 it seems like a scam.
Here's what works for everybody:
20 to 50 % ?? :o
Please let us know which products those are! That would be quite a large boost from supplements.
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Take enough cum up the ass and *you* can!
;D ;D ;D
LOL!!!!
The Jolly Ranger refuses to admit that the BEST testosterone booster for a man is a woman.
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I ran a cycle of this. Came out bigger, harder and more vascular.
And Good price also.
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I just started this last Friday. It is my segway from low dose test into a clomid restart. I swear, I could feel the difference
already. Gained a couple of pounds too.
Any side effects ?
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39 quid on amazon.co.uk
Anywhere cheaper?
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39 quid on amazon.co.uk
Anywhere cheaper?
Just buy real test, best bang for your buck
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Just buy real test, best bang for your buck
Some people just want a slight boost without the side effects and extra hassle.
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My test gets boosted every time I see this.
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Some people just want a slight boost without the side effects and extra hassle.
taking 1 cc every 2 weeks is a hassle or creates noticeable side effects?
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taking 1 cc every 2 weeks is a hassle or creates noticeable side effects?
Like where to buy it or finding a doctor who can do tests and then prescribe it.
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I personally wouldn't feel very good with thinning hair, shrunken testicles, infertility and the loss of my body's ability to produce testosterone. As it stands I am pretty lucky to be in my mid 40s and get great results from just lifting and a high protein diet. Any further gans I can pull out of a good natty test booster are gravy. Throw in some creatine monohydrate and I'm jacked.
:D
post some pics champ...
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D-Aspartic Acid
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Like where to buy it or finding a doctor who can do tests and then prescribe it.
Doctor: depends on where you're living. TRT isn't that hard to get in the US
Buy: a reputable source or just talk to the biggest guy in your gym :D
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There was a lot of good natural advice in this thread. Eat natural foods, avoid processed refined stuff. Don't drink in excess and avoid drugs. Get enough sleep, avoid excessive stress. Do challenging compound movements like squats and deadlifts. Have a confident, winning mentally but don't be an asshole. If that doesn't work then you probably are a real candidate for trt.
good stuff
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On third day using this as suggested
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In case it hasn't already been mentioned, eat more saturated fats and more cholesterol.
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Many years ago some of my gym buddies were trying Ejaculoid. They claimed to be always with a boner on that.
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Please keep us posted with progress.
On third day using this as suggested
(http://4imgs.com/1049/sys/prod/26207_2_0_0.JPG)
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M-TEST
Supplement Facts ???
Serving Size: 6 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30
Fadogia Agrestis PE 1200mg
Divana-Plex 1200mg
KSM-66 Ashwagandha Root Extract 695mg
Eurycoma Longfolia 500mg
Shilajit extract 200mg
Boron Citrate 200mg
Mucuna Pruriens SE 100mg
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6 capsules per dose, is that 1 dose a day?
M-TEST
Supplement Facts ???
Serving Size: 6 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30
Fadogia Agrestis PE 1200mg
Divana-Plex 1200mg
KSM-66 Ashwagandha Root Extract 695mg
Eurycoma Longfolia 500mg
Shilajit extract 200mg
Boron Citrate 200mg
Mucuna Pruriens SE 100mg
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6 capsules per dose, is that 1 dose a day?
Yes
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Cool, wonder if you'll notice any difference...
Yes
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Cool, wonder if you'll notice any difference...
Nothing but a placebo effect
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M-TEST
Supplement Facts ???
Serving Size: 6 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30
Fadogia Agrestis PE 1200mg
Divana-Plex 1200mg
KSM-66 Ashwagandha Root Extract 695mg
Eurycoma Longfolia 500mg
Shilajit extract 200mg
Boron Citrate 200mg
Mucuna Pruriens SE 100mg
That all sounds made up
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M-TEST
Supplement Facts ???
Serving Size: 6 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30
Fadogia Agrestis PE 1200mg
Divana-Plex 1200mg
KSM-66 Ashwagandha Root Extract 695mg
Eurycoma Longfolia 500mg
Shilajit extract 200mg
Boron Citrate 200mg
Mucuna Pruriens SE 100mg
Those are the faggiest looking ingredients I’ve ever seen. Only a pure homosexual would take such a supplement
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Those are the faggiest looking ingredients I’ve ever seen. Only a pure homosexual who take such a supplement
"Why not hit me in the Mucuna Pruriens, you naughty Fadogia Agrestis"
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Many years ago some of my gym buddies were trying Ejaculoid. They claimed to be always with a boner on that.
Viagra analogs most likely.
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Back when I was 'at my peak' in terms of gains, I was using Creatine. I don't know whether it increases testosterone but I do know that I was getting very strong very quickly.
Creatine is one of the staples of a natural bodybuilder's program, so from my own personal experience, I feel you should use that to start with.
creatine = water retention.
that's it...
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I don't believe that's just it. However, I'm not a scientist so have nothing to confirm it works except my own training experience.
If you don't want to use Creatine or have already tried it and it didn't work for you, apparently tribulus is a test booster.
it is , you get stronger because you have extra water in the muscle tissue, stop taking creatine the water goes away and you lose whatever water gain you got.
Creatine is shit.
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Are "Be There" and "Dropping Plates" the same guy?
no, im much funnier than him....
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no, im much funnier than him....
Oh, shut up DP
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black seeds (nigella sativa) is amazing!!.. if you can get its oil it's even better..
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creatine = water retention.
that's it...
It does put a lot of stress on kidneys (specially if you're over 35)
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Over a week using it as directed, and so far only noticed a bit of extra energy on chest day (could be placebo effect ) I did 20 reps with 85 lbs dumbells press not a big deal but its something I haven't done since last year and felt somewhat easy to do
I reduced alcohol drinking considerable in past 2 weekends also ....
WoooSHHHHHHHHH Beyeke
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black seeds (nigella sativa) is amazing!!.. if you can get its oil it's even better..
The rest of us live in modern civilised country’s, that sounds like stinking Muslim shite only found in the jungles of countries with names ending in Stan, how the fuck are we meant to access that?
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The rest of us live in modern civilised country’s, that sounds like stinking Muslim shite only found in the jungles of countries with names ending in Stan, how the fuck are we meant to access that?
;D . Legit belly laugh on this.
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What is your diet like? Most wannabe bodybuilders aren't eating properly and therefore end up looking like they don't lift. A test booster isn't going to overcome a bad diet. Multiply your bodyweight by 13. That's your base calorie needs. Add 500 to that figure, and thats your daily caloric target. Make 40% of those cals protein OR eat 1.5 grams of protein per lb. of bodyweight, whichever figure is greater. Divide the remaining 60% into low glycemic carbs and monosaturated fats. Get 60 grams of your daily protein from a couple of whey protein shakes. One of these shakes should be ingested immediately after lifting blended with a banana. That banana is the ONLY high glycemic food in your diet. Ingest 10 grams of creatine monohydrate per day. THEN AND ONLY THEN DO WE START TALKING TEST BOOSTERS.
I'm not a "wannabe" by any means .... I've been working out for 29 years used to compete for some years "natural" as well ....I'm in my 40's now so just looking for an extra booster .... Thanks for the info.
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The rest of us live in modern civilised country’s, that sounds like stinking Muslim shite only found in the jungles of countries with names ending in Stan, how the fuck are we meant to access that?
;D
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Okay gotcha. I would have to have more info about your current diet and weight lifting split.
I don't have the nerve to post what I eat on a daily basis .....the training is decent though
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Over 20 days using it as directed now , No noticeable effects. Hasn't been helping not even as a pre workout stimulant
If you look up main ingredients there is no evidence that this stuff is effective..
WOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :'(
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Was waiting for this update. What a rip off these things are.
(http://4imgs.com/1049/sys/prod/26207_2_0_0.JPG)
Over 20 days using it as directed now , No noticeable effects. Hasn't been helping not even as a pre workout stimulant
If you look up main ingredients there is no evidence that this stuff is effective..
WOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :'(
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Used that, only really helps with less aching I found.
Why not just go with Creatine?
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creatine = water retention.
that's it...
It also put a lot of stress on kidneys .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH Amadeus
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I'm one of those "lucky" bastards that get testosterone prescribed, because of low natural testo.
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No fap is a great testosterone booster. Testosterone is a great testosterone booster as well might be even better :)
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PSB, you might want to try th is one... whoooooooooooooosshhhhh. ..
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PSB, you might want to try th is one... whoooooooooooooosshhhhh. ..
Is this used to combat side effect while taking Test boosters? or is a Legit test booster itself ?
WooSHHHHHHHH
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Anything w/ Arimistane in it can boost Test a bit. Lower "E" somewhat, your Test will be used more wisely by your body (slight boost, not knocked down by estrogen ratio).
If ES (Eric) reads this he can chime in... He does know his shit...
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Anything w/ Arimistane in it can boost Test a bit. Lower "E" somewhat, your Test will be used more wisely by your body (slight boost, not knocked down by estrogen ratio).
If ES (Eric) reads this he can chime in... He does know his shit...
X2.
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Anything w/ Arimistane in it can boost Test a bit. Lower "E" somewhat, your Test will be used more wisely by your body (slight boost, not knocked down by estrogen ratio).
If ES (Eric) reads this he can chime in... He does know his shit...
Where's Eric? and has he tried this particular brand ?
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X2.
In your own case, the best natural testosterone booster would be not to weigh 600lbs anymore
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In your own case, the best natural testosterone booster would be not to weigh 600lbs anymore
Owned lol
;D
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Bump
For lack of info on this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=487078.0;attach=754363;image)
WoooSHHHHHH BE YE KE
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Not sure if Eric tries supps like this, but Im sure he knows about Arim...
There are a ton of supps out there with Arimistane, this one actually throws in some Epiandrosterone in it as well.
http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/prohormones-epiandrosterone/
I know you like to be 100% natty, this one may not be to your liking. (Even though Epiandro is natty, but can convert to Stanolone).
(https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/c687aa7517cf01e65c009f6943c2b1e9/a/r/arimezome-400x600.jpg)
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Not sure if Eric tries supps like this, but Im sure he knows about Arim...
There are a ton of supps out there with Arimistane, this one actually throws in some Epiandrosterone in it as well.
http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/prohormones-epiandrosterone/
I know you like to be 100% natty, this one may not be to your liking. (Even though Epiandro is natty, but can convert to Stanolone).
(https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/c687aa7517cf01e65c009f6943c2b1e9/a/r/arimezome-400x600.jpg)
Thanks
What I might fear is causing some stress to liver/kidneys really, at this point everything that's 100 drug free don't see to do much other than busting stamina for few days
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He says it promotes hair loss and some stress in Liver/kidneys might occur .
Back to square one .
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a website i used to frquent has a craze going about eating raw onions, their source is an iranian study finding that rats that ate raw onions had an increaase of test reaching 400%. i dont believe it though, and i dont trust irabian studies nor people on the internet vlaiming results
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if you take those supplements, you are NOT natural.
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if you take those supplements, you are NOT natural.
As long as they work , who cares? but...do they really work ?
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As long as they work , who cares? but...do they really work ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHH
I CARE! I take pride on the fact that I'm 100% natty. and yes some of these test supplements DO work
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I CARE! I take pride on the fact that I'm 100% natty. and yes some of these test supplements DO work
So far it seems you can't have it both ways
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So far it seems you can't have it both ways
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what do you mean?
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I CARE! I take pride on the fact that I'm 100% natty. and yes some of these test supplements DO work
Nobody fucking cares :)
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what do you mean?
A "natural" supplement that will boost your test levels give you lean muscle mass with no stress in liver/kidney.BP/hair loss etc .
Does not exist . :'(
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Nobody fucking cares :)
I do care though
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A "natural" supplement that will boost your test levels give you lean muscle mass with no stress in liver/kidney.BP/hair loss etc .
Does not exist . :'(
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whoever said anything about not stressing your liver/ kidneys etc? Yeah all natural test boosters will give you acne, hair loss, stress your organs, but they do work though, you will experience much rapid muscle gains and strength gains. These supplements DO have side effects
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whoever said anything about not stressing your liver/ kidneys etc? Yeah all natural test boosters will give you acne, hair loss, stress your organs, but they do work though, you will experience much rapid muscle gains and strength gains. These supplements DO have side effects
How are they all natural then?
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How are they all natural then?
the supplement is natural, however anybody taking these natural test boosters is NOT natural
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the supplement is natural, however anybody taking these natural test boosters is NOT natural
That's why anyone who eats food that they didn't harvest is not natural. So many drugs make many cheaters.
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Should be called "legal" test booster as opposed to "natural" as test injections are much more natural than otc pills that may raise test..may raise a bunch of other hormones and work unreliably depending on how each persons system converts the various compounds.
Much more "natural" to just inject real test...your body recognizes it as natural....no weird haphazard conversions...Only reason to take a test booster instead of real test is for legal reasons....not "natural" ones.
Natural should be considered the closest to what the body naturally produces...and test injections are a lot closer to natural test than goody herbal pills.
Btw...to risk gyno and suppression for herbal crap that "might" raise test is a crazy risk to reward decision.
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If you're in the market for Titanium Hardons and shooting huge loads, then this stack will turn your sex life around like no other.
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(http://4imgs.com/1049/sys/prod/5947_2_0_0.JPG)
If you're in the market for Titanium Hardons and shooting huge loads, then this stack will turn your sex life around like no other.
Ball refill .....as an Ball refill ?
Yo do need to have balls hanging lower than weiner to begin with right ?
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Ball refill .....as an Ball refill ?
Yo do need to have balls hanging lower than weiner to beiging with right ?
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Not translating well from your native tongue.
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WRECKING BALLS
What is proprietary Blend ? it seems to be loaded on this
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Not translating well from your native tongue.
Was Born In the Big Apple (not raised there sorry mate)
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Ok you win , Its LEVRONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE'
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I n a proprietary blend, manufacturers are not required by law to tell you the individual weights and this means that they are able to get away with far more filler product than they would be able to otherwise.
It's important to consider that, when dealing with a proprietary blend, you may not be getting the proper amounts of each supplement and you can easily be throwing your money away to take a filler, often in the form of plant cellulose.
Another day at The Industry .
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I prefer to do it the natural way
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I prefer to do it the natural way
What? You PSB's fluffer?
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That's why anyone who eats food that they didn't harvest is not natural. So many drugs make many cheaters.
I think you are confusing what ''natural'' means
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Should be called "legal" test booster as opposed to "natural" as test injections are much more natural than otc pills that may raise test..may raise a bunch of other hormones and work unreliably depending on how each persons system converts the various compounds.
Much more "natural" to just inject real test...your body recognizes it as natural....no weird haphazard conversions...Only reason to take a test booster instead of real test is for legal reasons....not "natural" ones.
Natural should be considered the closest to what the body naturally produces...and test injections are a lot closer to natural test than goody herbal pills.
Btw...to risk gyno and suppression for herbal crap that "might" raise test is a crazy risk to reward decision.
ugh..no, natural test booster simply means all the ingrediants are natural
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I prefer to do it the natural way
That's Elton John kind of gay to express yourself
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That's Elton John kind of gay to express yourself
That's not a very Christian thing to say, is it?
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That's not a very Christian thing to say, is it?
True
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ugh..no, natural test booster simply means all the ingrediants are natural
You believe there are not preservatives, chemicals and other various unnatural substances in supplements? Are you kidding? I Guess when they're lemon flavored a dude with fresh natural lemons gives a nice lemon squeeze in every batch.
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You believe there are not preservatives, chemicals and other various unnatural substances in supplements? Are you kidding? I Guess when they're lemon flavored a dude with fresh natural lemons gives a nice lemon squeeze in every batch.
The one is synthetic hormones which alter hormone levels beyond what the body is naturally capable of, the other supposedly helps increase the body's natural hormone levels within its natural limits.
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You believe there are not preservatives, chemicals and other various unnatural substances in supplements? Are you kidding? I Guess when they're lemon flavored a dude with fresh natural lemons gives a nice lemon squeeze in every batch.
LOL, 'nice lemon squueze' made me laugh...
But what's an 'unnatural' lemon? ;D
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The one is synthetic hormones which alter hormone levels beyond what the body is naturally capable of, the other supposedly helps increase the body's natural hormone levels within its natural limits.
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Try it the chess315 way by buying a sex doll
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https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/ep1logue-by-olympus-labs
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https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/ep1logue-by-olympus-labs
On which drug stack was their label designer ???
(https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/c687aa7517cf01e65c009f6943c2b1e9/e/p/epilogue-400x600.jpg)
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Explosive gains !
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On which drug stack was their label designer ???
(https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/c687aa7517cf01e65c009f6943c2b1e9/e/p/epilogue-400x600.jpg)
I've seen all this Olympus labs stuff. are these probormones or just different from of dhea?
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I've seen all this Olympus labs stuff. are these probormones or just different from of dhea?
No idea, but the ironic thing is that most prohormones are less effective than most regular orals, but more harmful to the liver
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i am excited to get my blood work done soon.
if you have the money to piss away (assume your diet, sleep, mind/stress levels/sexual function are normal) then knock back some DHEA other than that... save your money
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i am excited to get my blood work done soon.
if you have the money to piss away (assume your diet, sleep, mind/stress levels/sexual function are normal) then knock back some DHEA other than that... save your money
How did the blood work come out ? are your kidneys good to go for the summer?
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Bump.
Wooshhhhhhhhhhhhh
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i am excited to get my blood work done soon.
if you have the money to piss away (assume your diet, sleep, mind/stress levels/sexual function are normal) then knock back some DHEA other than that... save your money
DHEA is dirt cheap and gives older guys some benefits.
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DHEA is dirt cheap and gives older guys some benefits.
no side effects ? stress on liver kidneys ?
WooSHH
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DHEA is dirt cheap and gives older guys some benefits.
Agreed. I’m in my 30s and tested for DHEA-S in my labs a year ago and was on the low side. After supplementing with 25mg before bed every night, my sleep quality got better and my levels were optimal for the next labs.
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no side effects ? stress on liver kidneys ?
WooSHH
None unless you take too much. It should be taken based on bloodwork. I believe too much DHEA in men causes estrogen to increase and too much in women causes testosterone to increase.
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None unless you take too much. It should be taken based on bloodwork. I believe too much DHEA in men causes estrogen to increase and too much in women causes testosterone to increase.
What would be "too much " ? And does it promotes hair loss ?
woooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Gracias
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What would be "too much " ? And does it promotes hair loss ?
woooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Gracias
Everybody is different, but if you’re on the low end of the range based on labs, Drs usually suggest 25mg of DHEA before bed. It helps some people relax and sleep better but can have the opposite effect in a few and make falling asleep more difficult. In those cases, take first thing in the morning. It helped boost my free test by 3 points. Not huge, but it at least helped and also made me sleep better
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Everybody is different, but if you’re on the low end of the range based on labs, Drs usually suggest 25mg of DHEA before bed. It helps some people relax and sleep better but can have the opposite effect in a few and make falling asleep more difficult. In those cases, take first thing in the morning. It helped boost my free test by 3 points. Not huge, but it at least helped and also made me sleep better
Thanks .
WoSh
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Everybody is different, but if you’re on the low end of the range based on labs, Drs usually suggest 25mg of DHEA before bed. It helps some people relax and sleep better but can have the opposite effect in a few and make falling asleep more difficult. In those cases, take first thing in the morning. It helped boost my free test by 3 points. Not huge, but it at least helped and also made me sleep better
😷
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Anyone used any SARM's?
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How did the blood work come out ? are your kidneys good to go for the summer?
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
clean little kid here - bun levels a little high
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LOL, 'nice lemon squueze' made me laugh...
But what's an 'unnatural' lemon? ;D
Yellow plastic bottles , sells in supermarket as lemon juice ::)
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that helped instantly.
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Over 20 days using it as directed now , No noticeable effects. Hasn't been helping not even as a pre workout stimulant
If you look up main ingredients there is no evidence that this stuff is effective..
WOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :'(
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHH TA NA KA
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Honorable Mention
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This is what Rhoden used to take the title...
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This is what Rhoden used to take the title...
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Bullshit ::)
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Bullshit ::)
Obviously...
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Best Natural Testosterone Booster??
On Getbig Look at The Big Tits & Arse Threads & the Fit Women
Works for Me...... ;D
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Best Natural Testosterone Booster??
On Getbig Look at The Big Tits & Arse Threads & the Fit Women
Works for Me...... ;D
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How did the blood work come out ? are your kidneys good to go for the summer?
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
test was 558 E2 was around 21
all looked good -
with kidneys (bun) and liver - you really shouldn't train heavy duty hard for a good 5-7 days before you get blood work.
i will get my blood work around xmas. i am right in the channels of the limits where i need to be
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Damn!
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test was 558 E2 was around 21
all looked good -
with kidneys (bun) and liver - you really shouldn't train heavy duty hard for a good 5-7 days before you get blood work.
i will get my blood work around xmas. i am right in the channels of the limits where i need to be
Every Getbigger should have their blood work done at least once a year .....
Although most of our warriors won't come clean about it , This have been a terrible year with a lot of kidneys fried in our industry ...
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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As the year comes to an end .......nothing new regarding natural test booster worth of mentioning ?
Happy RAMADAN folks
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Doesn’t exist. Scammers and idiots who believe them exist.
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Bent over juicy ass will raise it considerably.
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Testro X
Testro-X claims to be a 100% natural formula for boosting T and proper hormonal functioning.
To bring your T back to high levels and get your male health back on track.
Has anyone heard of this ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHH STAY VINTAGE
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stop being a seeker please, doesn't and won't exist. you need drugs
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???
I could have sworn I ended this thread a few years back with the ultimate product... 8)
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BUILD STRONGER, LEANER MUSCLES: A daily supplement that naturally increases test levels, you can melt away belly fat while having more energy to create lean, healthy muscle..
For just $19.00 ??
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Best Natural Testosterone Boosters:
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NoFap. You'll want to put your seed into every female. And will probably regret it later.
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Has anyone tried this one yet?
(The post`Covid version I heard )
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Has anyone tried this one yet?
(The post`Covid version I heard )
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That's the stuff all right. Works like a charm, except "testosterrone" is different
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Has anyone tried this one yet?
(The post`Covid version I heard )
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Is this your attempt at comedy? What's this about?
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Is this your attempt at comedy? What's this about?
I'm serious as a hear attack ( not pun intended )
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH VINTAGE GENETICS
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Has anyone tried this one yet?
(The post`Covid version I heard )
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Will increase libido and maybe energy but probably not testosterone.
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Will increase libido and maybe energy but probably not testosterone.
Make that 'testosterrone'.
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Ok, there is obviously no working testosteron booster..
Otherwise everyone would use it.
But, from my personal experience, you could eat raw! peanut's.
And i believe it raises testosteron, maybe it raises estrogen, but youre body will balance it out.
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Ok, there is obviously no working testosteron booster..
Otherwise everyone would use it.
But, from my personal experience, you could eat raw! peanut's.
And i believe it raises testosteron, maybe it raises estrogen, but youre body will balance it out.
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No, the body doesn't balance it out. You think loading your system up with phytoestrogens makes the T level increase? lolol
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No, the body doesn't balance it out. You think loading your system up with phytoestrogens makes the T level increase? lolol
Ok, i am not sure, but feel free to teach me.
It is just my personal experience.. obviously there are oestrogens in it but i believe it will also raise testosteron.
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I eat tons of garlic daily, get plenty of rest, avoid overtraining and eat a lot of red meat and fats
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No, the body doesn't balance it out. You think loading your system up with phytoestrogens makes the T level increase? lolol
There was the idea that phytoestrogens act like SERMs, like Nolvadex, Clomid etc. Those are estrogens too, but displace the stronger estrogens in certain tissues. I think there were some aromatase inhibitors in soy as well?
But what happens in practise is something else, not very clear. However, the "soy boy" meme is not really true, I don't think.
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I eat tons of garlic daily, get plenty of rest, avoid overtraining and eat a lot of red meat and fats
Bro..
Get much action?
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I eat tons of garlic daily, get plenty of rest, avoid overtraining and suck copious amounts of cock. Black cock.
You should be a life coach.
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Most of these test boosters are available on Amazon ....and if you give a good review they'll ship a free bottle to you ...
so having five stars , good reviews are very misleading even if the product actually works ....
Thank God we still have getbig
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Stay Vintage bitches !
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I read a few pages of this thread and I feel dumber for it are getbiggers really this stupid? All that shit is snake oil garbage waste of money
Woooosh
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Sleep does it for me.
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20 something year old tang. God's natural test booster.
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Pron is the only known natural test booster.
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What's the best that you can get locally at a GNC or Vitamin World/Shoppe, etc? Does Nugenix really work, for example? Anyone have any luck with boosters from GNC and the like?
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What's the best that you can get locally at a GNC or Vitamin World/Shoppe, etc? Does Nugenix really work, for example? Anyone have any luck with boosters from GNC and the like?
Nugenix is the best kept secret.
The body converts it to nandrolone but it's completely legal chemical pre-ingestion.
No sides either.
Same with all boosters sold at GNC - they are all the same product with different labels and they WORK.
F'n GOLD.
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Kwon’s post history works pretty well.
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Nugenix is the best kept secret.
The body converts it to nandrolone but it's completely legal chemical pre-ingestion.
No sides either.
Same with all boosters sold at GNC - they are all the same product with different labels and they WORK.
F'n GOLD.
:D
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Boron at like 10mg might be worth it for more free testosterone. Reportedly works for better labs when on HRT too.
But the thing is, if something works it's a drug, even if called a "supplement" so why not go straight to testosterone? This distinction between "natural" and not is not real.
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Kwon’s post history works pretty well.
If the women in the picture have enhanced assets is it still considered a natural test booster?
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Boron at like 10mg might be worth it for more free testosterone. Reportedly works for better labs when on HRT too.
But the thing is, if something works it's a drug, even if called a "supplement" so why not go straight to testosterone? This distinction between "natural" and not is not real.
test isnt a mineral. But boron is. You need all the minerals
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I read a few pages of this thread and I feel dumber for it are getbiggers really this stupid? All that shit is snake oil garbage waste of money
Woooosh
Blackstone nutrition got in trouble for selling something else rather than snake oil .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OTANI
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Smilax has stood the test! of time.
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Run Activate Xtreme/Triazole stack for 8 weeks
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Then run Bulasterone 4 weeks for PCT
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herne is responsible for boosting my testosterone.
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Thoughts on Beta-Ecdysterone and Turkesterone?
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Thoughts on Beta-Ecdysterone and Turkesterone?
Ecdy gets some excellent reviews. Turkesterone is too new in the market to try it. I am currently running Laxogenin, which has been compared favorably with Anavar.
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Ecdy gets some excellent reviews. Turkesterone is too new in the market to try it. I am currently running Laxogenin, which has been compared favorably with Anavar.
my mate is on the turk, seems to give him more energy and his lifts have gone up, would hardly compare it to steroids, helps more with protein synthesis
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Thoughts on Beta-Ecdysterone and Turkesterone?
bump....
Turkesterone
Has anyone tried it so far?
Palumbo says it doesn't work , but that's because he ain't selling it or probably can't get a good deal to sell his own Species version .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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bump....
Turkesterone
Has anyone tried it so far?
I started to take it in December and caught covid. Just started taking it again and training this week. Really no benefits to report.
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I started to take it in December and caught covid. Just started taking it again and training this week. Really no benefits to report.
How about now ? Its been like 3 months already right ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Game. Set. Match.
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Game. Set. Match.
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i've been using longjack recently. got 100g's on amazon for like 13 bucks. dry scoop about a 1/2 teaspoon and kinda has an effect like proviron.
course i'm on test as well. not my own, king labs ugl about 500/wk and sure as fuck doesn't feel like 500.. probably more like 50.
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i've been using longjack recently. got 100g's on amazon for like 13 bucks. dry scoop about a 1/2 teaspoon and kinda has an effect like proviron.
course i'm on test as well. not my own, king labs ugl about 500/wk and sure as fuck doesn't feel like 500.. probably more like 50.
ive read elsewhere that "kings lab" has tested under-dosed on their products.
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Jesus Christ that’s fucking hot
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She would drain all my testis testosterone
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Those are the Best Natural Testosterone Boosters Known to Man.
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Enanthate and/or Sustanon. :D
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Lifetime natural here, KSM-66 Ashwagandha actually works to boost testosterone. Gives me raging hard ons it’s quite fantastic.
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Enanthate and/or Sustanon. :D
x2
Agree
Both work Very well.
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ive read elsewhere that "kings lab" has tested under-dosed on their products.
i believe it. i just went with them cuz only needed a couple bottles and they had no min and were quick. i believe they ship outta costa mesa.
i had a 50mg/ml TNE From them that seemed very legit. even re-crystalized, so they was actual product in it (TNE does that pretty easy in oil). I Thought their enanthate was ok, but this cyp feels like garbage. i'm not in the biz rn so im having to use other Ugl's shit and they were the first i found.
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Lifetime natural here, KSM-66 Ashwagandha actually works to boost testosterone. Gives me raging hard ons it’s quite fantastic.
Do you remember what brand or name? Thanks!
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Do you remember what brand or name? Thanks!
SDS, I may have said this before but your screen name is excellent! I was present in Hawaii for the return of the Sweet One and Hawaiians in general and Samoans in particular were great fans of Sweet Daddy Siki.
The arena was filled with the rhythmic, almost tribal chanting of the crowd for Siki. Every time I see your name it reminds of that. Just a memory but a fun one. Thanks!
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Lifetime natural here, KSM-66 Ashwagandha actually works to boost testosterone. Gives me raging hard ons it’s quite fantastic.
Can we see said raging hard on for verification?
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Can we see said raging hard on for verification?
Woo-Hoo!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Do you remember what brand or name? Thanks!
Nutricost is the brand name. Only taking one 600 mg pill a day, seems to work about a week in.
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Turkesterone combined with Ashwagandha and Horny Goat ..
Now Looking like Mike Mentzer 3 weeks out from the Sydney 1980 Mr.O
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SWOLE IS THE GOAL BITCHES
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There is no good natural testosterone booster.
Some may help you sleep, some may increase libido, some may affect mood but NONE will have any affect on muscularity.
This is why in the history of natural testosterone boosters there is not one single credible comparison pics of improved muscularity.
Its really the most offensive scam in the supplement industry. The same ground up leaves rebranded time and time again with higher and higher price tags.
Tribulus
ZMA
DAA
Longjack
Tongkat
Fenugreek
Plant sterols
Etc, etc...
Ive lost count of how many times on one forum or another a user posts enthusiastically about one or all of the above mentioned supps. "Hey I just started this or that. Nothing visible yet but I have that "On" feeling in the gym. That alpha feeling. I'll post progress pics....
Next week: still feel good , havent noticed anything yet but i feels like its working....
Next week: im going to increase from 2 to 4 pills a day... (still no progress pics)...
Next week: nothing
3 months later: bump hey did you ever make any progress?
No response
End/thread.
Repeat.
Ad nauseum.
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Those are the Best Natural Testosterone Boosters Known to Man.
Not if you're bodybuilders with shut-down systems, they aren't. And they have the disgruntled ex-wives and girlfriends to prove that.
When some bodybuilders go off their anabolic cycles, you could throw a harem of women in front of them and they'd wouldn't get a rise in their Levi's.
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There is no good natural testosterone booster.
Some may help you sleep, some may increase libido, some may affect mood but NONE will have any affect on muscularity.
This is why in the history of natural testosterone boosters there is not one single credible comparison pics of improved muscularity.
Its really the most offensive scam in the supplement industry. The same ground up leaves rebranded time and time again with higher and higher price tags.
Tribulus
ZMA
DAA
Longjack
Tongkat
Fenugreek
Plant sterols
Etc, etc...
Ive lost count of how many times on one forum or another a user posts enthusiastically about one or all of the above mentioned supps. "Hey I just started this or that. Nothing visible yet but I have that "On" feeling in the gym. That alpha feeling. I'll post progress pics....
Next week: still feel good , havent noticed anything yet but i feels like its working....
Next week: im going to increase from 2 to 4 pills a day... (still no progress pics)...
Next week: nothing
3 months later: bump hey did you ever make any progress?
No response
End/thread.
Repeat.
Ad nauseum.
WELL PUT...
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I remember being on the bodybuilding.com forum in college and getting excited about ordering my bottles of Activate and Rebound Xt. Gotta unleash that free test by a point or two and crush that estrogen with some overpriced stinging nettle root and some other shit
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After a month of using real Tongkat Ali, I am believing there might be something to this.
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I remember being on the bodybuilding.com forum in college and getting excited about ordering my bottles of Activate and Rebound Xt. Gotta unleash that free test by a point or two and crush that estrogen with some overpriced stinging nettle root and some other shit
Ha! I remember those. people swore by Activate there was another one Triazole? They were expensive too. I seem to remember 50 or 60 bucks a bottle? Guys were raving about them in forums but ,again, not once did it result in gains.
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Ha! I remember those. people swore by Activate there was another one Triazole? They were expensive too. I seem to remember 50 or 60 bucks a bottle? Guys were raving about them in forums but ,again, not once did it result in gains.
I wish instead of dropping $150 on color pills every month, I was at least putting it into an index fund or something useful down the line. I should go back in time to kick my own ass.
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After a month of using real Tongkat Ali, I am believing there might be something to this.
Do you mean that tonagt ali had no affect on musclarity?
Tongat ali does increae both free test and test levels, but not sure on its effects on musle growth
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Do you mean that tonagt ali had no affect on musclarity?
Tongat ali does increae both free test and test levels, but not sure on its effects on musle growth
It's only been a few weeks, but training is going better, I look a bit better, more alert, etc....
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Tbh just eat plenty of red meat and fats, animal fat, and get plenty of sun, srs
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Can we see said raging hard on for verification?
Bro...
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Some supps may give a libido boost, so folks think their test is being boosted.
Most of the studies are bullshit also, even on proven supps. ("Subjects testosterone was boosted 10% for exactly 9 minutes" etc).
Some adaptogens can help with recovery, etc. (Real Ecdy). All the Turkesterone going around today is pure bullshit as we're seeing.
This shit makes a comeback every decade for all the noobs who missed it the first time around.
Some supps you can feel though. I had a trial/sample envelope of "Nutrex Alpha-Pump" shit.
I took it this AM as its "pump-only" w/ no stims.
I dont think I ever got a pump like this before. I dont happen to train for pump like some do, but arms and shoulders today, veins were popping.
Even more so than BHanks veins. 8)
Might just be the glycerol in the product, I dont know. The thing is, some shit you can feel, but the effects are very short lived mostly.
Especially for these "plant anabolics".
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I remember one of the more credible studies was on DAA. TBH the study wasn't that credible either but the end result was "Increased testosterone by 49% after 11 days!" The test subjects were older and had low T to begin with. Younger healthy males experienced nothing. Now with normal Testosterone ranges being what? Between 300 and 900? So lets say you're sitting at around 500. An increase of 49% is still "only" 750. Still below the upper limit of normal.
With the plant based supps... take Lonjack for example. There's usually an accompanying study of some indigenous peoples whove chewed on this plant as a staple of their diet and have higher test levels than the average American or whoever.... but the indigenous people have been consuming these plants their whole lives. 20, 30, 40 or 50 years or more. Now a supp company comes along and charges 50 bucks for 30 days worth. After 30 days you're 50 bucks lighter and like wtf?
Im not trying to shit on anyones parade but when I was younger I had money to burn (no kids, cheap mortgage, cars paid off , good job) and this was a bit of a hobby. Wasted a lot of money. About 25 yrs ago I did one real cycle for 6 weeks and about 15 years ago I did 4 weeks of a mild prohormone (the gaspari one I think) I gained more muscle in those 10 weeks that the remaining 24.9 years combined.
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seems the only test boosters that work (natural or not) is TRT and the various stronger Anabolics...
wasn't ZMA touted as a test booster to take at night as well?
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seems the only test boosters that work (natural or not) is TRT and the various stronger Anabolics...
wasn't ZMA touted as a test booster to take at night as well?
Yup, ZMA, Boron, Dibencozide, etc...
Even after the latest Turkesterone scam, Ive seen twinks on forums (anabolic minds) say "Well, I like Derek, so I'll keep buying his Turk, he wouldnt lie to us".
50.00 a bottle of flour-pills, great. ::) ::)
Even when tested as BUNK, some still buy it and take it...
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Yup, ZMA, Boron, Dibencozide, etc...
Even after the latest Turkesterone scam, Ive seen twinks on forums (anabolic minds) say "Well, I like Derek, so I'll keep buying his Turk, he wouldnt lie to us".
50.00 a bottle of flour-pills, great. ::) ::)
Even when tested as BUNK, some still buy it and take it...
Yep The Same Mentality as the China Virus Face Nappy wearers & Clot shot Takers. ::)
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Best natural testosterone booster?
Eat a diet very high in animal saturated fat and cholesterol, and avoid fiber.
Low-fat high-fiber diet decreased serum and urine androgens in men
"We conclude that reduction in dietary fat intake (and increase in fiber) results in 12% consistent lowering of circulating androgen levels without changing the clearance."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15741266/
More on dietary fiber:
Stopping or reducing dietary fiber intake reduces constipation and its associated symptoms
"Idiopathic constipation and its associated symptoms can be effectively reduced by stopping or even lowering the intake of dietary fiber."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/
A High-Fiber Diet Does Not Protect Against Asymptomatic Diverticulosis
"A high-fiber diet and increased frequency of bowel movements are associated with greater, rather than lower, prevalence of diverticulosis."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3724216/
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Good post, loco.^
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Good post, loco.^
Thanks!
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Ketogenic state improves testosterone serum levels—results from a systematic review and meta-analysis
Published: 23 September 2022
Comprehensively, KD improved testosterone levels depending on both patients’ age and KD-induced weight loss.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36149528/
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Good stuff.^
Pay attention Wolfie Van Halen.
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1, 2
I think the fat one with the huge hangers would be more fun
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1, 2
I think the fat one with the huge hangers would be more fun
Both hotter than Dutch love.
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Whenever I come across the avatar of Irongrip400
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Whenever I come across the avatar of Irongrip400
This one?
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