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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: MindSpin on March 23, 2011, 01:39:32 PM
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Jon Olav Einemo is Shane Carwin's next opponent. They guy is 6-1 and hasn't foguht since 2006. If that's not a can, I don't know what is. Very disappointing.
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THAT is a disappointment. At least put in somewhat like Mitrione in there.
The NON-UFC'ers are gonna have a field day with this one!
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They should kick Barnette out of the StrikeForce tournament and let Carwin in, I want to see him go against Alistar....
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Has Carwin been training with Fedor? There were rumors a while back that they were training together...
I guess Carwin wants to take a page out of Fedor's book by taking this fight.
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personally I'd love to see them put Mir/Mitrione together and see what happens...
I'm ok with them throwing Carwin an easier fight as long as they don't try to sell it as a co-main event..
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Now I want to see this fight...
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Has Carwin been training with Fedor? There were rumors a while back that they were training together...
I guess Carwin wants to take a page out of Fedor's book by taking this fight.
You can't train with a can and expect to beat a can. If Carwin trained with Fedor he will lose by TKO stoppage in the second round.
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You can't train with a can and expect to beat a can. If Carwin trained with Fedor he will lose by TKO stoppage in the second round.
Let's hope Carwin has a real camp for this fight...we've all seen what happens when HW's take easy fights and still lose.
Some seem to never recover. It can almost tarnish an entire career of wins.
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Einemo is a ADCC veteran with pretty slick ground skills, and he's been at Golden Glory for a while now working on his standup. Will he be ready for the power and the standard boxing of Carwin? that's another story. Last time I saw Einemo he had that European boxing stance that leaves your head erect and open to be hit. Definitely not a can though.
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Einemo is a ADCC veteran with pretty slick ground skills, and he's been at Golden Glory for a while now working on his standup. Will he be ready for the power and the standard boxing of Carwin? that's another story. Last time I saw Einemo he had that European boxing stance that leaves your head erect and open to be hit. Definitely not a can though.
He hasn't fought since 2006 and his MMA resume is nothing near legendary. His last victory was over James Thompson almost 6 years ago.
The guy could make LHW and he's fighting Carwin at HW. Carwin has a lot to lose and not much to gain by taking this fight. I'm a little shocked really.
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He hasn't fought since 2006 and his MMA resume is nothing near legendary. His last victory was over James Thompson almost 6 years ago.
The guy could make LHW and he's fighting Carwin at HW. Carwin has a lot to lose and not much to gain by taking this fight. I'm a little shocked really.
And he's missing half of his foot...no joke.
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Agree with Weight on this. UFC is making a bit of a gamble with this fight. If something happens and Carwin loses, it's not good.
However, my guess is UFC sees some possiblities in Einemo.. and are probably willing to give him a few shots at some fights. They are trying to bolster the HW ranks.
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He hasn't fought since 2006 and his MMA resume is nothing near legendary. His last victory was over James Thompson almost 6 years ago.
The guy could make LHW and he's fighting Carwin at HW. Carwin has a lot to lose and not much to gain by taking this fight. I'm a little shocked really.
There you go with your fight finder stats, he's kept busy competing in ADCC all of these years and he trains at Golden Glory. Are you familiar with Golden Glory and the way they train over there? Will he win? probably not....but he is not a can and is a decent test for Carwin who is coming off of that major back surgery. You make it seem like Einemo is a tiny guy who is coming straight off of the couch for this fight. He's 6'6 with long ass limbs and will definately be coming in heavier than the weight you got off of Sherdog (your not fooling anybody fight finder addict). No one expected TUF newbs to be familiar with Einemo, that's why im not surprised with you and your main Spin account.
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There you go with your fight finder stats, he's kept busy competing in ADCC all of these years and he trains at Golden Glory. Are you familiar with Golden Glory and the way they train over there? Will he win? probably not....but he is not a can and is a decent test for Carwin who is coming off of that major back surgery. You make it seem like Einemo is a tiny guy who is coming straight off of the couch for this fight. He's 6'6 with long ass limbs and will definately be coming in heavier than the weight you got off of Sherdog (your not fooling anybody fight finder addict). No one expected TUF newbs to be familiar with Einemo, that's why im not surprised with you and your main Spin account.
Let me reiterate....I said there is a lot of risk and not much to gain in this fight for Carwin. He does not have a 'name' to the current MMA fans.
You are the one assuming I said he's a can....
Now let tell you how some "could" consider him a can or easy fight for Carwin.
-Mediocre MMA record
-220lbs in comparison to Carwin's 290-300 in the cage
-Win or Lose Carwin doesn't have anything to gain by this fight
-No "name" in current MMA
Now get the chip off your shoulder and get the fuck off of these forums...it's been nice not having you around to spread your UFC hate.
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Carwin's 290-300 in the cage
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What weight is he then? Prove me wrong or STFU.
What did he weigh for his last fight?
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I think Carwin said he was 285-290 for the Lesnar fight...
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I think Carwin said he was 285-290 for the Lesnar fight...
sounds about right..
although guys half that size have been know to cut up to 12-15 lbs for fights.
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What weight is he then? Prove me wrong or STFU.
He doesn't even cut weight like Lesnar does
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/who-said-carwin-closest-brocks-weight-size-1036362/
Now prove he's ever been 300lbs ::)
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He doesn't even cut weight like Lesnar does
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/who-said-carwin-closest-brocks-weight-size-1036362/
Now prove he's ever been 300lbs ::)
WRONG.....
Here was his last fight with Lesnar. Weighed in at 265. You think really think he weighed 265 in the cage?
http://www.cagetoday.com/ufc-116-brock-lesnar-vs-shane-carwin-weigh-in-results/ (http://www.cagetoday.com/ufc-116-brock-lesnar-vs-shane-carwin-weigh-in-results/)
Brock Lesnar (265) vs. Shane Carwin (265)
Yoshihiro Akiyama (185) vs. Chris Leben (186)
Stephan Bonnar (205) vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (205)
Kurt Pellegrino (155) vs. George Sotiropoulos (156)
Matt Brown (171) vs. Chris Lytle (170)
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WRONG.....
Here was his last fight with Lesnar. Weighed in at 265. You think really think he weighed 265 in the cage?
And proof that he's 300 lbs? I'm waiting...
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And proof that he's 300 lbs? I'm waiting...
What I originally wrote was an estimated weight and I have proven my self to be correct.
Please, don't try to make yourself look so ignorant next time.
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What I originally wrote was an estimated weight and I have proven my self to be correct.
LOL! You dumb ass actually think Carwin gained 41 lbs in a year? Keep on believing the UFC hype and get yourself some Muscletech so you can too gain 41 lbs of rock hard muscle!
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LOL! You dumb ass actually think Carwin gained 41 lbs in a year? Keep on believing the UFC hype and get yourself some Muscletech so you can too gain 41 lbs of rock hard muscle!
With a normal fight weight cut, plus an average amount of weight gain/muscle/fat, this is entirely possible. Do you even know that fighter's generally cut 20+lbs pounds of weight for weigh-ins?
So want to admit your wrong yet? Or do I keep making you look like a fool?
Seriously, stick to slobbering over men in thongs in muscle worship beauty pageants...You appear to do better at that.
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300 lbs in the cage.......riiiiiiiiiiii ght.
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300 lbs in the cage.......riiiiiiiiiiii ght.
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Exactly ;D
We got a certified idiot here :D
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With a normal fight weight cut, plus an average amount of weight gain/muscle/fat, this is entirely possible.
I though you were sure about this. Now you tell it's "possible" ::)
Do you even know that fighter's generally cut 20+lbs pounds of weight for weigh-ins?
Yes - of course. But he didn't cut any in his previous fight. By using your logic, he would've gone from not having to cut weight to gaining 41lbs and having to cut 35 lbs for the fight. Compare Carwin in those two fights. He did NOT gain 40+ lbs. He looks almost identical. A 40 lbs weight gain is huge and would show.
So want to admit your wrong yet? Or do I keep making you look like a fool?
Seriously, stick to slobbering over men in thongs in muscle worship beauty pageants...You appear to do better at that.
You're owning yourself just fine here. And wow - touche - I browse a bodybuilding board. ::) You hurt my feelings! Why don't you go to Sherdog and not come back here. See ya..!
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I though you were sure about this. Now you tell it's "possible" ::)
Yes - of course. But he didn't cut any in his previous fight. By using your logic, he would've gone from not having to cut weight to gaining 41lbs and having to cut 35 lbs for the fight. Compare Carwin in those two fights. He did NOT gain 40+ lbs. He looks almost identical. A 40 lbs weight gain is huge and would show.
You're owning yourself just fine here. And wow - touche - I browse a bodybuilding board. ::) You hurt my feelings! Why don't you go to Sherdog and not come back here. See ya..!
You must be high on Centopani's soiled posing trunks...
I could debate with you all day and you just wouldn't understand....and that's ok.
Did you forget what the original topic was about?
Carwin will be huge compared to this real life gimp he's facing. Hopefully, you can understand that.
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Carwin will be huge compared to this real life gimp he's facing. Hopefully, you can understand that.
Let's make a deal - I promise to understand that if you promise to understand Carwin doesn't fight at 300lbs
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Let's make a deal - I promise to understand that if you promise to understand Carwin doesn't fight at 300lbs
Pointless....
We know one thing is certain...Carwin cut weight to make 265 in his last fight. Something you incorrectly disputed. Carwin has stated what his walk around weight in numerous times.
End of discussion.
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Carwin has stated what his walk around weight in numerous times.
Oh, suddenly 300 lbs is his "walk around weight". Wasn't that supposed to be his weight in the cage? At least I'm man enough to admit I was mistaken regarding him never cutting weight.
So, you basically believe that after stepping on the scale at 265 lbs at the weigh ins, he ate and drank 35 lbs of food/fluids before the fight within 24 hours?
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!!!!!! ;D
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Oh, suddenly 300 lbs is his "walk around weight". Wasn't that supposed to be his weight in the cage? At least I'm man enough to admit I was mistaken regarding him never cutting weight.
So, you basically believe that after stepping on the scale at 265 lbs at the weigh ins, he ate and drank 35 lbs of food/fluids before the fight within 24 hours?
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!!!!!! ;D
I estimated 290-300 lbs in the cage.
Neither is a rediuclous amount of weight/water/fludis to gain on someone with that bodyweight.
You really don't know much about MMA do you?
Admit that and I'll leave you alone.
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I estimated 290-300 lbs in the cage.
Your estimate is 290-300, my guess is maybe 265-275. No athlete gains 40+ lbs of muscle in a year between fights without dramatically changing his look. And he didn't gain 40 lbs of fat either. In other words, he did NOT gain 40+ lbs. You can see it simply by looking at the photos / video. That's the only 'proof' we have to go by. I have no footage of him stepping on the scale moments before the fight, and I assume neither do you. So, feel free to show photographic evidence supporting that he gained 40 lbs.
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Your estimate is 290-300, my guess is maybe 265-275. No athlete gains 40+ lbs of muscle in a year between fights without dramatically changing his look. And he didn't gain 40 lbs of fat either. In other words, he did NOT gain 40+ lbs. You can see it simply by looking at the photos / video. That's the only 'proof' we have to go by. I have no footage of him stepping on the scale moments before the fight, and I assume neither do you. So, feel free to show photographic evidence supporting that he gained 40 lbs.
Where are you getting this 40 lbs of muscle in a year B.S.?
I've already proven my case, you will discredit any pictures posted anyways....
You ready to head back to the men in thongs section yet?
I give you a hint...there are interviews on the web where he states his walk around weight. Search for those and you'll have your proof.
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Where are you getting this 40 lbs of muscle in a year B.S.?
You must be slow, so I'll explain it to you one more time. Read carefully. His weight at UFC 96 was 259 - no weight cut. You claim his fight weight a year later was up to 300 lbs. Get it now? Or is this still too complicated?
I give you a hint...there are interviews on the web where he states his walk around weight. Search for those and you'll have your proof.
God you're dumb! You think walk around weight and fight day weight are the same? LOL! Do I believe he walks around 300 lbs offseason? Absolutely! Do I believe he doesn't drop any of that weight before a fight? Of course not. Fighters - just like many other athletes get heavier and then cut weight for a fight / event.
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You must be slow, so I'll explain it to you one more time. Read carefully. His weight at UFC 96 was 259 - no weight cut. You claim his fight weight a year later was up to 300 lbs. Get it now? Or is this still too complicated?
God you're dumb! You think walk around weight and fight day weight are the same? LOL! Do I believe he walks around 300 lbs offseason? Absolutely! Do I believe he doesn't drop any of that weight before a fight? Of course not. Fighters - just like many other athletes get heavier and then cut weight for a fight / event.
Nice owning ;D Cant believe this douche ( weightpshr) is saying Carwin is 290-300 in the cage, then backtracking that its his 'walkaround weight' lol He clearly knows nothing about HW fights, they dont need to cut weight before a fight, so why would Carwin cut to 260 or whatever for the weigh in then gain 40lbs come fight night?Seriously you have no clue
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they dont need to cut weight before a fight, so why would Carwin cut to 260 or whatever for the weigh in then gain 40lbs come fight night?Seriously you have no clue
Actually, they need to be 265 or under, but it just makes no sense for him to be 259 in his previous fight and then blow up to 300 lbs in a little over a year. But yeah, for sure he's a dumbass
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Nice owning ;D Cant believe this douche ( weightpshr) is saying Carwin is 290-300 in the cage, then backtracking that its his 'walkaround weight' lol He clearly knows nothing about HW fights, they dont need to cut weight before a fight, so why would Carwin cut to 260 or whatever for the weigh in then gain 40lbs come fight night?Seriously you have no clue
I haven't read this whole thread, but I think you're confused. Heavyweights have to be under 265 you dumbass. So, the really big guys like Lesnar, Carwin, Big Foot, etc. all have to cut weight. And, when fighters talk about their "walk around weight" they are not referring to some off season bloated weight ::) They are referring to what they cut from for a fight. As it relates to Carwin, I have read/seen interviews where he says he cuts from around 285. When you're that big, 20lbs is one day is nothing. After weighing in at 265, I'm sure he's easily back up to his walk around the day of the fight.
Hope that helps.
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Nice owning ;D Cant believe this douche ( weightpshr) is saying Carwin is 290-300 in the cage, then backtracking that its his 'walkaround weight' lol He clearly knows nothing about HW fights, they dont need to cut weight before a fight, so why would Carwin cut to 260 or whatever for the weigh in then gain 40lbs come fight night?Seriously you have no clue
WOW you just verified your ignorance. You really think that many HW don't cut weight?
There is no backtracking going on. I didn't say offseason did I? He may be over 300+ when he's not in shape/"offseason"...I have no idea.
If you followed MMA you would know what walkaround weight means.
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I haven't read this whole thread, but I think you're confused. Heavyweights have to be under 265 you dumbass. So, the really big guys like Lesnar, Carwin, Big Foot, etc. all have to cut weight. And, when fighters talk about their "walk around weight" they are not referring to some off season bloated weight ::) They are referring to what they cut from for a fight. As it relates to Carwin, I have read/seen interviews where he says he cuts from around 285. When you're that big, 20lbs is one day is nothing. After weighing in at 265, I'm sure he's easily back up to his walk around the day of the fight.
Hope that helps.
Well said.
Hopefully this does help these chumps.
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Carwin at 259 and 300 lbs. That 40+ lb weight gain sure changed his physique dramatically ::)
He must be fighting his next fight at 340 lbs.
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This is how 49 lb weight gain looks like
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Carwin at 259 and 300 lbs. That 40+ lb weight gain sure changed his physique dramatically ::)
He must be fighting his next fight at 340 lbs.
Come on bro...what are these pics going to prove?
This is something you can relate with a little better.
Tell me why this guy looks bigger than any of them and he's almost a midget in real life LOL!
(https://forum.lowyat.net/uploads//attach-30/post-365430-1276516416.jpg)
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Come on bro...what are these pics going to prove?
It's 10000000x more proof than your "he's 300 lbs because I say so". Try harder, or keep getting owned.
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I haven't read this whole thread, but I think you're confused. Heavyweights have to be under 265 you dumbass. So, the really big guys like Lesnar, Carwin, Big Foot, etc. all have to cut weight. And, when fighters talk about their "walk around weight" they are not referring to some off season bloated weight ::) They are referring to what they cut from for a fight. As it relates to Carwin, I have read/seen interviews where he says he cuts from around 285. When you're that big, 20lbs is one day is nothing. After weighing in at 265, I'm sure he's easily back up to his walk around the day of the fight.
Hope that helps.
They may HAVE to be under 265 'dumbass' but theres no way Carwin needs to cut weight to make that.He isnt 300lbs , and yes i know what walkaround weight.I think too many douchebags like you glorify that these guys are superhuman beings and have to cut 40lbs to make a weight.Seriously stop fantasizing over fighters.Theyre not the be all and end all.
Oh and ir doesnt matter what weight you are my friend, 20lbs gained in 1 day is ALOT.Youre seriously deluded if you think somebody gains 20lbs in a day...
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Come on bro...what are these pics going to prove?
This is something you can relate with a little better.
Tell me why this guy looks bigger than any of them and he's almost a midget in real life LOL!
(https://forum.lowyat.net/uploads//attach-30/post-365430-1276516416.jpg)
The things you come out with to argue about are fukin stupid.Why post up a picture of a bodybuilder?It has nothing to do with the fact you just saw what a massive weight gain in an athlete is, because you said Carwin has gained a similar amount of weight to Overeem basically, when you can clearly see he hasnt gained anything.You are owned now end the thread and stop digging a deeper hole
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They may HAVE to be under 265 'dumbass' but theres no way Carwin needs to cut weight to make that.He isnt 300lbs , and yes i know what walkaround weight.I think too many douchebags like you glorify that these guys are superhuman beings and have to cut 40lbs to make a weight.Seriously stop fantasizing over fighters.Theyre not the be all and end all.
Oh and ir doesnt matter what weight you are my friend, 20lbs gained in 1 day is ALOT.Youre seriously deluded if you think somebody gains 20lbs in a day...
Damn Bro....you just outed yourself as the biggest idiot yet. Seriously, how closely do you follow MMA? Many fighters easily cut 20lbs to weigh in.
Another thing to further put the nail in your coffin of stupidity is heavier guys can cut larger amounts of weight if they needed to. (Water)
Go to the 1:20 mark....Anthony "Rumble" Johnson admits that he's 195 here on fight night. He weighed in at 170 24hrs earlier!!!! That's 25lbs on a Welterweight.
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHA
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to cut 25 lbs of water before a fight has to be nerve racking shit...
you've got to be wondering if you can even do it especially after the long layoff he's had.
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Go to the 1:20 mark....Anthony "Rumble" Johnson admits that he's 195 here on fight night. He weighed in at 170 24hrs earlier!!!!
Of course lower weight class guys cut weight. Thanks for brand new information. We're talking about your claim of Carwin gaining 40 lbs between fights. Look at the photos moron - did not happen
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Of course lower weight class guys cut weight. Thanks for brand new information. We're talking about your claim of Carwin gaining 40 lbs between fights. Look at the photos moron - did not happen
What do you think looking at photos is going to prove ::) Look at the Spider's 185 & 205 pics...it's a 20-25lbs difference and he looks identical.
Can't believe this argument is still going on. The issue is, do fighters (even heavy weight) cut as much as 20lbs the day before the fight? And the answer is yes...end of story ::)
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Of course lower weight class guys cut weight. Thanks for brand new information. We're talking about your claim of Carwin gaining 40 lbs between fights. Look at the photos moron - did not happen
I was replying to your boy kevcat who thinks it's insane to think someone cuts 20lbs in a day.
I've already proved my point with you ....no need to embarrass yourself any further.
Oh and ir doesnt matter what weight you are my friend, 20lbs gained in 1 day is ALOT.Youre seriously deluded if you think somebody gains 20lbs in a day...
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I've already proved my point with you ....no need to embarrass yourself any further.
If Carwin gaining 40 lbs is the jerking off material you need, then go ahead.. keep dreaming
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If Carwin gaining 40 lbs is the jerking off material you need, then go ahead.. keep dreaming
Let me further embarrass you...
Carwin weighed in at 265 for his last fight with Lesnar. If he cut a minimum of 25lbs of water, he would be 290 in the cage, possibly more if he cut more water.
Tell me what part of this is so hard for you to come to terms with?
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Damn Bro....you just outed yourself as the biggest idiot yet. Seriously, how closely do you follow MMA? Many fighters easily cut 20lbs to weigh in.
Another thing to further put the nail in your coffin of stupidity is heavier guys can cut larger amounts of weight if they needed to. (Water)
Go to the 1:20 mark....Anthony "Rumble" Johnson admits that he's 195 here on fight night. He weighed in at 170 24hrs earlier!!!! That's 25lbs on a Welterweight.
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHA
OF COURSE fighters cut fukin 20lb and more before fights asshole.Your claim is they do these things in a day.Do you have proof of that?
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Tell me what part of this is so hard for you to come to terms with?
Since you're extremely slow, I'll explain it to you one more time. He wouldn't gain 30-40 lbs without looking different. Now go get a tissue and jizz one off for Dana
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And just in case anyone cares about Carwin's word re: this matter, this is what he has to say:
When asked about how much weight he cuts to reach the limit for Heavyweights (265 pounds) Carwin said he cuts up to 20 pounds.
“Usually I walk around at about 275 to 280, but about three months out I clean up my diet and eat healthy, and I tend to get down pretty lean. Usually by fight time I shouldn’t have to cut weight”.
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And just in case anyone cares about Carwin's word re: this matter, this is what he has to say:
When asked about how much weight he cuts to reach the limit for Heavyweights (265 pounds) Carwin said he cuts up to 20 pounds.
“Usually I walk around at about 275 to 280, but about three months out I clean up my diet and eat healthy, and I tend to get down pretty lean. Usually by fight time I shouldn’t have to cut weight”.
That's from an interview he did leading up to the Gonzaga fight right? I've seen other interviews where he says he walks into the cage at around 280.
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I just posted proof you idiot....Johnson is here saying he weighs 195 on fight night. He weighed in at 170 24 hrs. earlier.
24hrs is a day in case you didn't know.
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Since you're extremely slow, I'll explain it to you one more time. He wouldn't gain 30-40 lbs without looking different. Now go get a tissue and jizz one off for Dana
Once again, you would not be able to tell on pictures alone....you should know this.
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And just in case anyone cares about Carwin's word re: this matter, this is what he has to say:
When asked about how much weight he cuts to reach the limit for Heavyweights (265 pounds) Carwin said he cuts up to 20 pounds.
“Usually I walk around at about 275 to 280, but about three months out I clean up my diet and eat healthy, and I tend to get down pretty lean. Usually by fight time I shouldn’t have to cut weight”.
http://news.fightmagazine.com/lesnar-vs-carwin-weight-one-minute-1071/ (http://news.fightmagazine.com/lesnar-vs-carwin-weight-one-minute-1071/)
But guys like Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin cut weight to make the 265-pound limit. They might outweigh an opponent by 40 pounds or more on fight night and that’s simply not fair when every other division features fights between equally matched competitors.
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Once again, you would not be able to tell on pictures alone....you should know this.
Yes, your word has more credibility than pictures ::)
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Yes, your word has more credibility than pictures ::)
I have posted MULTIPLE sources to prove my point. Please don't exaggerate.
Running out of retorts aren't you?
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This whole thread has gone on for three fucking pages with you guys bickering back and forth about nothing. Who gives a shit about cutting weight.
This shoulda been a one page thread max, just discussing Carwin's upcoming fight. BUT, as is par for the course on this board, this thing has gone on and on...
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I just posted proof you idiot....Johnson is here saying he weighs 195 on fight night. He weighed in at 170 24 hrs. earlier.
24hrs is a day in case you didn't know.
Do you believe everything fighters say as gospel? Have you neer heard of exaggerations with height/weight etc etc?
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Do you believe everything fighters say as gospel? Have you neer heard of exaggerations with height/weight etc etc?
You're acting like this is the first time you've ever heard of someone dropping 20+lbs of water for weigh-ins. Yes, I do believe that fighters cut 20+lbs of water for weigh-ins, which are 24 hrs before fighting.
Please explain this statement to me instead of dodging the question repeatedly:
Oh and ir doesnt matter what weight you are my friend, 20lbs gained in 1 day is ALOT.Youre seriously deluded if you think somebody gains 20lbs in a day...
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This whole thread has gone on for three fucking pages with you guys bickering back and forth about nothing. Who gives a shit about cutting weight.
This shoulda been a one page thread max, just discussing Carwin's upcoming fight. BUT, as is par for the course on this board, this thing has gone on and on...
I agree....it's ridiculous that we're arguing about something so trivial as weight cutting.
I also find some of the comments baffling....it truly makes me wonder if some of these guys even casually follow the sport of MMA.
I like a good debate as much as the next guy. Our opinions can differ, but come on, at least know the basic fundamentals of the sport first.
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People in general like to argue... and given that the interface is thru a computer without a face-to-face confrontation, people like it even more.
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People in general like to argue... and given that the interface is thru a computer without a face-to-face confrontation, people like it even more.
is that how this internet stuff works ?
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is that how this internet stuff works ?
Smart ass. ;D
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I have posted MULTIPLE sources to prove my point.
Go ahead, post a source that says Carwin fights at 300 lbs.
Since Carwin says himself he slowly loses his offseason weight over 3 months, I assume this is what you believe happened:
UFC 84 - Carwin drops weight slowly to 252 lbs, no weight cut required
UFC 89 - Carwin drops weight slowly to 264 lbs, no weight cut required
UFC 96 - Carwin drops weight slowly to 259 lbs, no weight cut required
UFC 116 - Carwin bulks up to 300 lbs during offseason, well over his usual 275-285 lbs. Carwin chooses NOT to cut weight over 3 months before UFC 116 but instead chooses to stay at 300 lbs. Before weigh ins, Carwin dehydrates himself 35 lbs to step on the scales at 265 lbs. After that, Carwin gains the 35 lbs back to fight at 300 lbs.
So, you basically believe that is what happened, right? ::) ::)
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Go ahead, post a source that says Carwin fights at 300 lbs.
Since Carwin says himself he slowly loses his offseason weight over 3 months, I assume this is what you believe happened:
UFC 84 - Carwin drops weight slowly to 252 lbs, no weight cut required
UFC 89 - Carwin drops weight slowly to 264 lbs, no weight cut required
UFC 96 - Carwin drops weight slowly to 259 lbs, no weight cut required
UFC 116 - Carwin bulks up to 300 lbs during offseason, well over his usual 275-285 lbs. Carwin chooses NOT to cut weight over 3 months before UFC 116 but instead chooses to stay at 300 lbs. Before weigh ins, Carwin dehydrates himself 35 lbs to step on the scales at 265 lbs. After that, Carwin gains the 35 lbs back to fight at 300 lbs.
So, you basically believe that is what happened, right? ::) ::)
290-300lbs in the cage...
How or why is only known by Carwin himself.
Take it or leave it...that's the way it is. I'm sorry that it has gotten you so confused.
Getting back to the original post that started all of this, was my statement that Carwin has a lot to lose and nothing to gain by fighting this skinny, 220lb twink with a gimp foot.
You do agree that Carwin will be the heavier fighter, right?
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290-300lbs in the cage...
LOL! So you actually believe he didn't cut weight for the weight, stayed at around 300 lbs, dropped 35 lbs of water and then drank it back before the fight. ;D
How or why is only known by Carwin himself.
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Take it or leave it...that's the way it is. I'm sorry that it has gotten you so confused.
I think you're the one confused here. You're basically saying the scenario I presented above is what you believe and simply say "only Carwin knows" when it obviously MAKES NO SENSE and you got no balls to admit it
Getting back to the original post that started all of this, was my statement that Carwin has a lot to lose and nothing to gain by fighting this skinny, 220lb twink with a gimp foot.
You do agree that Carwin will be the heavier fighter, right?
Of course, when did I say he will not be the heavier fighter? Also, I totally agree with you - Carwin has nothing to gain.
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LOL! So you actually believe he didn't cut weight for the weight, stayed at around 300 lbs, dropped 35 lbs of water and then drank it back before the fight. ;D
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I think you're the one confused here. You're basically saying the scenario I presented above is what you believe and simply say "only Carwin knows" when it obviously MAKES NO SENSE and you got no balls to admit it
Of course, when did I say he will not be the heavier fighter? Also, I totally agree with you - Carwin has nothing to gain.
For the record, if he weighed 290 in the cage, that would be a 25lbs weight/water cut on a HW. Nothing abnormal there.
A 35lb weight/water cut would be a little more extreme, but hardly abnormal either.
Because it doesn't make sense to YOU, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. Got it.
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A 35lb weight/water cut would be a little more extreme, but hardly abnormal either.
It would be VERY abnormal for a fighter who was 259 lbs just a year ago and didn't cut an ounce. If Carwin gained 41 lbs between the fights and didn't cut the fat slowly, and simply dropped the water and then gained it back, he'd look DRAMATICALLY different. Oh wait. According to you that's not enough to show ::)
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It would be VERY abnormal for a fighter who was 259 lbs just a year ago and didn't cut an ounce. If Carwin gained 41 lbs between the fights and didn't cut the fat slowly, and simply dropped the water and then gained it back, he'd look DRAMATICALLY different. Oh wait. According to you that's not enough to show ::)
290-300lbs in the cage. My statement still stands.
If you think pictures prove something, why don't you post me pics of the his last fight with Brock that PROVE he's not 290-300lbs.
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You're acting like this is the first time you've ever heard of someone dropping 20+lbs of water for weigh-ins. Yes, I do believe that fighters cut 20+lbs of water for weigh-ins, which are 24 hrs before fighting.
Please explain this statement to me instead of dodging the question repeatedly:
Wow you sure have a way of twisting what people say to benefit yourself. I said 'gaining' 20lbs in a day is ALOT, and you counter my argument by saying is this the first time ive ever heard about someone 'cutting 20lbs of water for weigh ins' .Yes there is a difference gaining and losing weight incase you didnt know...
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Wow you sure have a way of twisting what people say to benefit yourself. I said 'gaining' 20lbs in a day is ALOT, and you counter my argument by saying is this the first time ive ever heard about someone 'cutting 20lbs of water for weigh ins' .Yes there is a difference gaining and losing weight incase you didnt know...
You are further proving my assumption that you have no idea what you are talking about. Please do a little more research.
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You are further proving my assumption that you have no idea what you are talking about. Please do a little more research.
Please take ur hand away from your dick when listening to what your superhero fighters say about their height/weight and other stats ;)
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Please take ur hand away from your dick when listening to what your superhero fighters say about their height/weight and other stats ;)
I know you love the Dick N Ball talk when you have no other way to defend yourself, but that made entirely no sense whatsoever.
Confirmed, another chump outed for stupidity.
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I know you love the Dick N Ball talk when you have no other way to defend yourself, but that made entirely no sense whatsoever.
Confirmed, another chump outed for stupidity.
There could be worse things than stupidity i guess....like masturbating over men fighting each other.We can end the thread at that then.Im stupid and youre queer.Ok?
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There could be worse things than stupidity i guess....like masturbating over men fighting each other.We can end the thread at that then.Im stupid and youre queer.Ok?
Why do you care what someone masturbates too? You hiding something from us?
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Carwin's weights at various UFCs
UFC 84 - 252 lbs
UFC 89 - 264 lbs
UFC 96 - 259 lbs
UFC 116 - 290-300 lbs according to mindspin ;D
UFC 131 - 254 lbs
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Was really looking forward to seeing Jon olav. But I feel like he always gave that fight away, He was getting killed in the clinch yet He grabbed the clinch over and over again. Which eventually fucked him over. Cannot understand why since it was there he took the most damage by far.