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Gossip & Opinions / Re: US Olympic lifting back on the map
« Last post by Van_Bilderass on Today at 11:21:42 PM »
Quote from: oldtimer1 on Today at 11:41:08 AM
Olympic lifting is a power sport like sprinting. They are sick strong but the most important attribute is explosive power. There no weak but skillful Olympic champs. Both of the US champs that have a shot at Gold are in the lighter categories. Plenty of seriously muscled Olympic lifters. Because of the muscle bloat steroid bodybuilding look I think fans of the sport have a warped perception of what a muscular physique is. Imagine a boxing champ, sprinter, or an Olympic lifter donned speedos and stood next to an Olympia contestant.

Yes there are no weak lifters I agree, they are all very strong. And some do have impressive muscularity, considering the testing programs, most often in their thighs and glutes like I said. But if they could run lots of steroids you'd see the delts and particularly the traps, I've said befote that there are NO impressive traps in natural lifters. If they could run lots of steroids you'd see some crazy traps in particular especially considering all the stimulus the traps get. People's perceptions are warped by all the drugs I 100% agree, they don't know what a top natural actually looks like.

If a lifter knows he isn't tested for some period of time, say days or weeks, they tend to do lots of GH and insulin and peptides. All Olympic athletes do what I call "legal doping" which means drugs that can have PED effects but are not on any banned list, there are tons of them***. Then there is the "therapeutic use exemption" for say diabetes or especially ASTHMA, probably all athletes have "exertion" or cold induced asthma (think skiers) so they can use the seminstratably anabolic beta-agonists.

*** this coach posts about drugs that are not on banned lists for athletes

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5Xw2N-ujW5/?igsh=OHpnem41b3NwZHh0

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3h4x2DMly_/?igsh=MTdjbzJja2tza3B6Ng==

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3A4smUR01P/?igsh=dWR1dnY4YzJ1bmxh

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2kU2dVu4kC/?igsh=dGN4Y2hpdGgyM25h
https://www.instagram.com/p/C2QAdWZOLaD/?igsh=MTNmY3UydmRzOTg2Mg==

And so on
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Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Last post by Amerian Muscle on Today at 11:06:15 PM »
Quote from: obsidian on April 21, 2024, 11:59:21 PM
It's good to be cautious. I just look at the US debt, the border crisis, the corrupt politicians, a new stimulus package for Ukraine and see BANKRUPT! The rest of the world will not keep financing the US. The debt party is going to end at some point, as sure as the sun will shine tomorrow.

Look at Granholm. She fucking lied under oath. Will she go to prison? Your average citizen will. These kind of people are destroying the US.


she keeps saying "really??" and "my goodness?" and she is a woman
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Gossip & Opinions / Re: US Olympic lifting back on the map
« Last post by Van_Bilderass on Today at 10:26:50 PM »
Quote from: MajorDomo on Today at 12:02:59 PM
Where is this fact reported? I found this Pubmed paper that doesn't mention it- and you would think in a survey paper they would lead with stuff like that.

"two studies on isolated hypertrophic fibers of body builders, have shown that in well trained professional body builders increase in size and in force are dissociated"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7582410/

I just read it so many times I took it as fact, but here's the first goofle result:

"Muscle volume (MV) and anatomical cross-sectional area (CSA) are measurements of muscle size [often measured by magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)] that presents a strong relationship (r > 0.73) with muscle strength (Bamman et al., 2000, Ogasawara et al., 2011, Ogasawara et al., 2013b, Trezise et al., 2016)."

But there's also data that says, I think, the increased size changes the angle of force generation negatively or something like that lol, so it's probably more nuanced.

But generally, in each individual lifter, strength and their muscle size is correlated. Many deny this and say their were stronger than now when they are bigger but I don't buy it at all, they just changed their exercise execution style. When a bb is at say their 8-12 rep peak strength they are most likely their biggest too. Of course you can't compare two dofferent lifters and sat look, that smaller guy is stronger, when there are a multitude of factors affecting demonstratable strenght, like tendon lenght/placement, aanatomical differences like limb length (could affect bench strength for example), neural efficiency, technique differences and on and on. At least measure a lifter to himself, is he stronger when bigger muscularly? Yes he usually is, unless he changes his technique. I might increase  my deadlift max by going sumo or whatever and say, look, my dead max is bigger now yet I'm smaller, but check your lower back strength, it's probably weaker, you just changed your technique. This is how older powerlifters can keep eeking our bigger numbers, just keep refining technique.

And like falco said, there's weight classes for a reason.
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Gossip & Opinions / Re: US Olympic lifting back on the map
« Last post by Van_Bilderass on Today at 10:17:39 PM »
Quote from: MAXX on Today at 03:56:00 AM
it's more like an IQ test in that who is the best at getting around the steroid testing. And then, some nations like North Korea don't even have their athletes tested. So how is that a fair playing field.

some good arguments here why doping tests are pretty much pointless


It's more of a funding issue IMO. Countries like China and Russia have funds to allocate to sophisticated soping programs. Russia even had the secret service break into a testing lab to change out the samples! The athletes don't have the IQ to beat the test, actually it's hard to best the test even with IQ and funding. No one can do lots of steroids with this testing. I didn't watch the video but I agree that if some countries don't do the unannounced testing it's not fair. Just now some 20 Chinese athletes were exonerated over doing some heart medication which they claimed came from some type of food contamination. So they are playing with some "minor"  drugs and methods, they aren't running tren and Anadrol.
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Gossip & Opinions / Re: Yet Another Lie By Hanky
« Last post by Randomum on Today at 09:50:45 PM »
Can't we all be happy for Bhanky? He went out there and got Getbig a title. Won his division like he said. He showed up this time, what more can he do. Put some respect on his name. If not, then pick a contest near Bhanky and compete against him to decide who is better.
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Gossip & Opinions / Re: Yet Another Lie By Hanky
« Last post by illuminati on Today at 09:30:19 PM »
Did Arnold look alike ask Bianca about Dvd's ...Dvd's
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Y Board - The Player's Club / Re: The Y board lifting thread
« Last post by illuminati on Today at 09:26:26 PM »
Quote from: Grape Ape on April 21, 2024, 03:02:41 PM
30 sets of legs would have me not walking right for a week.

Me also 😊👍🏻
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Gossip & Opinions / Re: WYHI? (MILF edition)
« Last post by Tapeworm on Today at 08:38:29 PM »
Quote from: oldtimer1 on March 01, 2024, 01:17:07 PM
The best part about older women is they will make you dinner with a juice box and iron your pants in the morning. Think they younger girls would do that?

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Y Board - The Player's Club / Re: The Y board lifting thread
« Last post by CalvinH on Today at 08:24:28 PM »
Flat bench
Incline db fly's
Hammer decline-I know it's a homo exercise but everything else was taken at the time.
Floor db press
4 sets of 10 for each with a couple of warm up with the flat bench.

I almost did the pec deck but didn't want to do two homo exercises in the same workout.


Cardio
 
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Gossip & Opinions / Re: 2024 Charlotte Cup April 7th
« Last post by CalvinH on Today at 08:18:46 PM »
Quote from: OneMoreRep on April 20, 2024, 02:20:04 PM
I will have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on this one chief.

Yes, we have many brave and proud trolls on this site, but one can not forget that we also have a large number of IFBB pros (I know because many post under random usernames), NPC competitors and NPC judges (Don't believe me about the judges, call up Johnny and ask him whether any of his judges for the Charlotte Cup are part of GetBig).

I know you and Joswift are not best friends, but to deny that the man is a seasoned bodybuilding competitor would be nonsense. The same can be said about BigRo, Wes, Coach, Illuminati, CalvinH, Spike, Go4It, honest, Tommy Wishbone, Krankenstein, shawn Ray, Vince Goodrum and countless others.

Besides, the guys you competed with were in good shape, but none of them compare to the aforementioned guys. Not even in the same neighborhood.

I absolutely give you credit for winning, as you said you would compete and kept your word, but to shit on the idea that these guys here are just internet trolls is farfetched.

"1"


 ;D I see what you did there.
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