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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2009, 06:12:44 PM »
Hawaii Prayer Breakfast offers blessings for leaders
Advertiser Staff

Michelle Vandenburg, mother of Olympic decathlon gold medalist Bryan Clay, was the featured speaker at this morning's 30th Hawaii Prayer Breakfast.

Several hundred people — including Gov. Linda Lingle, members of her administration, county mayors, state legislators and leaders from business, military and faith-based communities attended the event at the Hilton Hawaiian Village.

Vandenburg, who raised Clay in Kaneohe after she and Clay's father divorced, told the audience about how her faith helped her persevere.

Clay, a Castle High graduate who won gold at the Beijing Games, appeared in a videotaped message.

The Hawaii Prayer Breakfast is held annually to pray for leaders, regardless of political or religious affiliation.

Kahu Curt Kekuna of Kawaiahao Church provided the blessing.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090409/BREAKING/90409065

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2009, 09:37:55 PM »
Hawaii Prayer Breakfast offers blessings for leaders
Advertiser Staff

Michelle Vandenburg, mother of Olympic decathlon gold medalist Bryan Clay, was the featured speaker at this morning's 30th Hawaii Prayer Breakfast.

Several hundred people — including Gov. Linda Lingle, members of her administration, county mayors, state legislators and leaders from business, military and faith-based communities attended the event at the Hilton Hawaiian Village.

Vandenburg, who raised Clay in Kaneohe after she and Clay's father divorced, told the audience about how her faith helped her persevere.

Clay, a Castle High graduate who won gold at the Beijing Games, appeared in a videotaped message.

The Hawaii Prayer Breakfast is held annually to pray for leaders, regardless of political or religious affiliation.

Kahu Curt Kekuna of Kawaiahao Church provided the blessing.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090409/BREAKING/90409065

no shit?

a bunch of people got together and prayed?

weird

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2009, 09:39:57 PM »
Yep.  "Gov. Linda Lingle, members of her administration, county mayors, state legislators and leaders from business, military and faith-based communities attended the event at the Hilton Hawaiian Village."  Pretty accomplished bunch of people.  And to think nearly all (without exaggeration) of our "state legislators" are Democrats. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2009, 09:55:19 PM »
Yep.  "Gov. Linda Lingle, members of her administration, county mayors, state legislators and leaders from business, military and faith-based communities attended the event at the Hilton Hawaiian Village."  Pretty accomplished bunch of people.  And to think nearly all (without exaggeration) of our "state legislators" are Democrats. 

ok

then what?

people get together and "pray" all the time

so what?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2009, 10:07:37 PM »
ok

then what?

people get together and "pray" all the time

so what?
I'm not getting the point either but he seems to be trying to make one.  Just say it BB, what's the point?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #80 on: April 09, 2009, 10:19:09 PM »
I'm not getting the point either but he seems to be trying to make one.  Just say it BB, what's the point?

The title of the thread is "Prayer and Religion in Public Life."  I just posted a story about an annual prayer breakfast that is attended by most, if not all, of our state's political leaders and a substantial number of private sector leaders.  That's the only point.  Just like every other story I've posted in the thread.  Just examples of how deeply ingrained prayer and faith is in our society.  Nothing more than that.     

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2009, 10:20:25 PM »
The title of the thread is "Prayer and Religion in Public Life."  I just posted a story about an annual prayer breakfast that is attended by most, if not all, of our state's political leaders and a substantial number of private sector leaders.  That's the only point.  Just like every other story I've posted in the thread.  Just examples of how deeply ingrained prayer and faith is in our society.  Nothing more than that.     

so you're basically saying people "pray" ...?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2009, 10:23:19 PM »
I'm "basically saying" what I just said. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #83 on: April 09, 2009, 10:25:37 PM »
well alrighty then :D

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #84 on: April 09, 2009, 10:27:11 PM »
The title of the thread is "Prayer and Religion in Public Life."  I just posted a story about an annual prayer breakfast that is attended by most, if not all, of our state's political leaders and a substantial number of private sector leaders.  That's the only point.  Just like every other story I've posted in the thread.  Just examples of how deeply ingrained prayer and faith is in our society.  Nothing more than that.     

yeah

people tend to do this "pray" thing

right?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #85 on: April 09, 2009, 10:29:48 PM »
Yes they do.   :)

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #86 on: April 09, 2009, 10:31:49 PM »
Yes they do.   :)

exactly

one question...

how can you tell when someone is faking it and just pretending to pray?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #87 on: April 09, 2009, 10:33:40 PM »
lol

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #88 on: April 09, 2009, 10:34:53 PM »
exactly

one question...

how can you tell when someone is faking it and just pretending to pray?


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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #89 on: April 10, 2009, 06:07:55 AM »
Shit, my life has changed now... :o
I hate the State.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #90 on: April 10, 2009, 07:57:30 AM »
Shit, my life has changed now... :o

Don't worry.  I'm sure Bum will keep updating his pet thread whenever he reads a story about some group of people somewhere doing the public prayer thing.  Let's just be glad Bum is not muslim or he'd be updating this thread 5 times a day

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #91 on: April 10, 2009, 12:10:58 PM »
I might go to this one.  Hope all of you enjoy your state sanctioned Good Friday holiday (assuming you have one).   :)

Public invited to Easter services at Schofield Barracks
Advertiser Staff

The public is invited to Easter sunrise services at Schofield Barracks.

The services will start at 6 a.m. at Stoneman Stadium.

Col. Jack Van Dyken, U.S. Army Pacific Command chaplain, will deliver the service. There will also be music. Refreshments will follow.

Stoneman Stadium is located at the corner of McCornack Road and Leilehua Avenue on Schofield Barracks. Guests should use the McNair Gate and follow posted directions.

Drivers will need to show their license, registration, proof of insurance and valid photo ID for each occupant in the vehicle.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090410/BREAKING/90410011

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #92 on: April 10, 2009, 05:30:36 PM »
I might go to this one.  Hope all of you enjoy your state sanctioned Good Friday holiday (assuming you have one).   :)

Bum - how do you figure this is a "state sanctioned" holiday?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #93 on: April 10, 2009, 11:30:09 PM »
Bum - how do you figure this is a "state sanctioned" holiday?

     §8-1  Holidays designated.  The following days of each year are set apart and established as state holidays:

     The first day in January, New Year's Day;

     The third Monday in January, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Day;

     The third Monday in February, Presidents' Day;

     The twenty-sixth day in March, Prince Jonah Kuhio Kalanianaole Day;

     The Friday preceding Easter Sunday, Good Friday;

     The last Monday in May, Memorial Day;

     The eleventh day in June, King Kamehameha I Day;

     The fourth day in July, Independence Day;

     The third Friday in August, Statehood Day;

     The first Monday in September, Labor Day;

     The eleventh day in November, Veterans' Day;

     The fourth Thursday in November, Thanksgiving Day;

     The twenty-fifth day in December, Christmas Day;

     All election days, except primary and special election days, in the county wherein the election is held;

     Any day designated by proclamation by the President of the United States or by the governor as a holiday.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol01_Ch0001-0042F/HRS0008/HRS_0008-0001.htm

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2009, 07:45:50 AM »
gotcha - you're talking about Hawaii and not the US Govt (which does not recognize it as a holiday)

What do you do to celebrate Prince Jonah Kuhio Kalanianaole Day?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #95 on: April 20, 2009, 03:54:29 PM »
Attended a session of the state senate today and they started with a devotional and prayer.  The prayer was in the name of [gasping] "Jesus Christ our Lord."  Not sure if they invite members of other faiths.  Interesting question. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #96 on: April 20, 2009, 04:44:52 PM »
Attended a session of the state senate today and they started with a devotional and prayer.  The prayer was in the name of [gasping] "Jesus Christ our Lord."  Not sure if they invite members of other faiths.  Interesting question. 

What happened after the prayer?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #97 on: April 20, 2009, 06:29:48 PM »
What happened after the prayer?

They voted on bills. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #98 on: April 20, 2009, 09:27:24 PM »
They voted on bills. 

do they do the prayer every time they open a session?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2009, 11:20:22 AM »
do they do the prayer every time they open a session?

I'm pretty sure they do, as does our House of Representatives and City Council.  Also, there are only 2 Republicans (out of 25 Senators) in the State Senate.