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Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« on: July 02, 2022, 09:13:44 AM »
An attempt to rewrite textbooks to make slavery appears like a work program.


AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Public schools in Texas would describe slavery as “involuntary relocation” under new social studies standards proposed to the state's education board.

A group of nine educators submitted the idea to the State Board of Education as part of Texas' efforts to develop new social studies curriculum, according to the Texas Tribune. The once-a-decade process updates what children learn in the state's nearly 8,900 public schools.

The board is considering curriculum changes one year after Texas passed a law to eliminate topics from schools that make students “feel discomfort.”

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2022, 11:41:04 AM »
Ridiculous

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2022, 11:58:01 AM »
Wouldn't want anyone to "feel discomfort" by facts. ::) Keep teaching our kids how to run and hide from the truth. ::)
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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2022, 12:17:09 PM »
Wouldn't want anyone to "feel discomfort" by facts. ::) Keep teaching our kids how to run and hide from the truth. ::)
Kids today are absolute pussies.
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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2022, 01:06:09 PM »
Kids today are absolute pussies.

So are the liberal adults...

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2022, 01:14:26 PM »
So are the liberal adults...
Yeah, it's usually how they are raised. However, the social media age is a huge influence on everyone, especially the kids.

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2022, 01:43:23 PM »
Yeah, it's usually how they are raised. However, the social media age is a huge influence on everyone, especially the kids.

Yup, been saying it for years. These morons were raised by devices tied to liberal social-media companies.
Basically, told what to do, how to act, what to think.

I didn't let my kids have phones until they were 16 and getting a drivers license.
I see little kids (like 8, real little) walking around stores just looking down at their phones tagging behind Mom.
Brainless zombies...

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2022, 01:47:18 PM »
Involuntary relocatees of peace.

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2022, 01:52:51 PM »
Yeah, it's usually how they are raised. However, the social media age is a huge influence on everyone, especially the kids.

This makes no sense.  Kids raised on social media are exposed to the whole world, both good and bad.  Prior generations only got to see their small town, unless their parents had money to travel.  Then when they became adults and saw things outside their small town, they complained about how the world is going to hell and why can't we go back to the way things use to be. 

Adults claiming kids might be offended by learning about bad things in history class are just using that as an excuse to protect or promote their bigotries.

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2022, 01:55:51 PM »
who cares what they call it anymore

Any right minded person is sick of them anyway

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2022, 02:11:49 PM »
This makes no sense.  Kids raised on social media are exposed to the whole world, both good and bad.  Prior generations only got to see their small town, unless their parents had money to travel.  Then when they became adults and saw things outside their small town, they complained about how the world is going to hell and why can't we go back to the way things use to be. 

Adults claiming kids might be offended by learning about bad things in history class are just using that as an excuse to protect or promote their bigotries.
Tim, I just hope you stay with me on this debate, because I'm not going anywhere, and you get butthurt(no homo) at the drop of a dime.

Kids, are absolutely getting exposed to the wrong influences.

I'm only 40, so I can literally see the divide from the youth of today, and from the generation above me. Have you ever heard of the phrase: "You are the product of your environment"? Being spoon-fed, ad nauseum, by the absolute degradation of society. Tik toks, porn, people getting killed..... that can't be good for the developing brain.

When your 18, then I say (or society)that you are free to do whatever you want in life.  These days, many kids will already be damaged beyond repair, by 18.

The shit hurts. Nickelodeon, The Mickey Mouse Club, casting couches. The rich pedophiles, that we are just starting to get justice on.

Tim, we are living in shit times. I'm not talking about your stances on other things, but I think that your "liberal" views of things, are limiting your thought process.

The tipping point is right in front of us.


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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2022, 02:28:27 PM »
Enough of slavery and racism and trannies etc… I couldn’t care any less for those things. How about we push all three back under the rug where they belong and not discuss them every chance we get. Who the fuck cares about any of this?

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2022, 02:32:36 PM »
Enough of slavery and racism and trannies etc… I couldn’t care any less for those things. How about we push all three back under the rug where they belong and not discuss them every chance we get. Who the fuck cares about any of this?

Exactly my point

Its all imaginary historically inacurrate bullshit

I care as much about someone being a trannie as I do about someone being straight

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2022, 02:33:32 PM »
Enough of slavery and racism and trannies etc… I couldn’t care any less for those things. How about we push all three back under the rug where they belong and not discuss them every chance we get. Who the fuck cares about any of this?
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2022, 02:37:58 PM »
Chocolates crossed the turbulent sea.

It’s been a disaster ever since.

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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2022, 02:57:07 PM »
Tim, I just hope you stay with me on this debate, because I'm not going anywhere, and you get butthurt(no homo) at the drop of a dime.

Kids, are absolutely getting exposed to the wrong influences.

First, this thread is about conservatives in Texas wanting to relabel slavery in ways to make the enslavers look less evil.  My point stands: saying kids need to be protected from knowing about evil things in history (making our founding fathers look less heroic) is just a way for adults to protect or promote their bigotries.

Your point: that kids today are being exposed to the wrong influences, has been made by adults since Elvis Presley.  The root cause of it is the same:  mass communications and other technologies are making the world a smaller place.

Radio, tv, cable tv, CDs, Napster, Blockbuster, video games.  Music:  Tipper Gore held congressional hearings on how the music industry was destroying our youth (Sept 1985).  Video games.  You should have heard the cries about how video games were destroying our youth.

The flaw in your argument is that you're claiming kids in previous generations were innocent and protected.  This may have been true for some, and it is still true for some today.  But many if not most children do not have idealized childhoods.  They see alcoholism, drug abuse, domestic violence, sexual abuse, hunger, crime, war.  It is always been that way.

The wonder of mass communications of today is that kids now know they're not alone, and there are often resources to help them.   A girl (or boy) being molested by a father, stepfather, relative, pastor, etc., might have confided in their mother or other person that this was happening.  Often in the past they were told that we have to keep this quite to protect the reputation of the family or church.  Now because of that hand held device, they can look for help, and if they choose, scream it from the roof tops.

In the past, a kid who questions their sexuality or gender, often believed they must be the only person in the world that feels this way.  This often led to self destructive behavior or suicide.  Now with that hand held device, they know they're not alone, and that it does get better.

Now I agree that social media companies need to be regulated.  Their algorithms only want to increase views.  Based on what a kid will click on, their AIs keep feeding them more and more extreme stuff.  This is not healthy for the kids or for society.  Now you and I may disagree on what is the most dangerous stuff the AIs are pushing.  For me it is the white extremist content.

Tiktok has been very profitable pushing extremely short content.  Now all the other social media companies are trying to catch up.  I believe being fed a constant diet of extremely short content makes it difficult for kids and adults to concentrate on longer tasks. 

As far as participating in debates here, I drop out when it just becomes name calling, or when the real world requires my attention.

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2022, 03:15:46 PM »
First, this thread is about conservatives in Texas wanting to relabel slavery in ways to make the enslavers look less evil.  My point stands: saying kids need to be protected from knowing about evil things in history (making our founding fathers look less heroic) is just a way for adults to protect or promote their bigotries.

Your point: that kids today are being exposed to the wrong influences, has been made by adults since Elvis Presley.  The root cause of it is the same:  mass communications and other technologies are making the world a smaller place.

Radio, tv, cable tv, CDs, Napster, Blockbuster, video games.  Music:  Tipper Gore held congressional hearings on how the music industry was destroying our youth (Sept 1985).  Video games.  You should have heard the cries about how video games were destroying our youth.

The flaw in your argument is that you're claiming kids in previous generations were innocent and protected.  This may have been true for some, and it is still true for some today.  But many if not most children do not have idealized childhoods.  They see alcoholism, drug abuse, domestic violence, sexual abuse, hunger, crime, war.  It is always been that way.

The wonder of mass communications of today is that kids now know they're not alone, and there are often resources to help them.   A girl (or boy) being molested by a father, stepfather, relative, pastor, etc., might have confided in their mother or other person that this was happening.  Often in the past they were told that we have to keep this quite to protect the reputation of the family or church.  Now because of that hand held device, they can look for help, and if they choose, scream it from the roof tops.

In the past, a kid who questions their sexuality or gender, often believed they must be the only person in the world that feels this way.  This often led to self destructive behavior or suicide.  Now with that hand held device, they know they're not alone, and that it does get better.

Now I agree that social media companies need to be regulated.  Their algorithms only want to increase views.  Based on what a kid will click on, their AIs keep feeding them more and more extreme stuff.  This is not healthy for the kids or for society.  Now you and I may disagree on what is the most dangerous stuff the AIs are pushing.  For me it is the white extremist content.

Tiktok has been very profitable pushing extremely short content.  Now all the other social media companies are trying to catch up.  I believe being fed a constant diet of extremely short content makes it difficult for kids and adults to concentrate on longer tasks. 

As far as participating in debates here, I drop out when it just becomes name calling, or when the real world requires my attention.
First of all, I don't give a shit about some Rednecks in Texas, that may or may not, want to put a spin on slavery.

Texas needs to get their shit together, in stopping shooters from murdering kids at schools.


What you say is only partially true. We have seen an explosion of strange behavior in the last decade. There have been gays, straights, and lesbians, since the dawn of mankind.

Did you ever notice that there was obviously a modicum of decency going on? I will admit that maybe it went too far back then, in not letting people be comfortable in who they are.

Now, they are making everyone else uncomfortable, by shoving hundreds of years of "depravity in silence" down our throats (no homo)

You are gay? Fine. You are transgender? Lop it off or sew it on baby!

Just don't try to shove it in our faces, like some communist army. Don't try to mind control kids by encouraging them to take gender reassignment drugs, when they could just be a tomboy.

Don't hold ridiculously, outlandish parades, where you waltz around in leather and chains, or thongs, or sometimes nothing at all. It's almost like you want us to hate you.

I say do whatever you want. Get married to whomever you love. But don't indoctrinate the children of this world. Don't force your beliefs on to us, because it's proven that it's not the norm.

No more tranny story time at elementary schools.

Do you agree, Tim?

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2022, 03:30:05 PM »
What you say is only partially true. We have seen an explosion of strange behavior in the last decade.

Such as?

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Did you ever notice that there was obviously a modicum of decency going on?

No, I didn't.  There was lots of nudity in the 60s.  There was lots of vulgar stuff in the 70s and 80s.  Lots of violence and gore on tv in the 90s.   Kids didn't see it because they weren't the target audience. 

Today for the most part, kids don't see those things because they're not the target audience.  If they do, then the parents need to do a better job.

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Don't try to mind control kids by encouraging them to take gender reassignment drugs, when they could just be a tomboy.

That is not happening.   Bigots claiming it is are only trying to scare you.  No doctor will prescribe puberty blockers without a thorough and lengthy evaluation and only with the approval of the parents or in a few cases the court.  Doctors still have to follow protocols to keep their licenses and not be sued for malpractice.

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Don't hold ridiculously, outlandish parades, where you waltz around in leather and chains, or thongs, or sometimes nothing at all. It's almost like you want us to hate you.

Pride parades have been going on since 1970.  Only difference is they're easier to find on social media today.

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No more tranny story time at elementary schools.

This is the most overblown thing.  In this sense, a drag queen is just a type of clown.  Do you have a problem with clowns entertaining kids?  Mimes?

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2022, 03:44:56 PM »
Q: why did white men have to give women the right to vote.  Meaning, why didn't they have it already? 

A: BECAUSE lol.

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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2022, 03:46:08 PM »
Such as?

No, I didn't.  There was lots of nudity in the 60s.  There was lots of vulgar stuff in the 70s and 80s.  Lots of violence and gore on tv in the 90s.   Kids didn't see it because they weren't the target audience. 

Today for the most part, kids don't see those things because they're not the target audience.  If they do, then the parents need to do a better job.

That is not happening.   Bigots claiming it is are only trying to scare you.  No doctor will prescribe puberty blockers without a thorough and lengthy evaluation and only with the approval of the parents or in a few cases the court.  Doctors still have to follow protocols to keep their licenses and not be sued for malpractice.

Pride parades have been going on since 1970.  Only difference is they're easier to find on social media today.

This is the most overblown thing.  In this sense, a drag queen is just a type of clown.  Do you have a problem with clowns entertaining kids?  Mimes?

How the fuck can a man in his right mind think that trannys entertaining kids is ok and similar to a clown? You sir are fucked in the head. Sick just sick. Obviously have no kids and if you do I feel horrible for them.

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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2022, 03:46:47 PM »


This is the most overblown thing.  In this sense, a drag queen is just a type of clown.  Do you have a problem with clowns entertaining kids?  Mimes?

You can't be serious with this.

In a sense?

I've seen videos of these events here where i live.

It's nothing like a clown show. One of them was twerking on stage in front of elementary school children. While not the end of the world, i've never seen a clown or magician do that on stage.

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2022, 03:56:07 PM »
How the fuck can a man in his right mind think that trannys entertaining kids is ok and similar to a clown? You sir are fucked in the head. Sick just sick. Obviously have no kids and if you do I feel horrible for them.

In a sense, strippers are just dancers.

Should be a welcome show in any elementary school auditorium.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2022, 03:57:13 PM »
You can't be serious with this.

In a sense?

I've seen videos of these events here where i live.

It's nothing like a clown show. One of them was twerking on stage in front of elementary school children. While not the end of the world, i've never seen a clown or magician do that on stage.

There are dozens of videos on youtube.  The ones from reputable sources (NBC, PBS, CNN, CBS, various public libraries) all seem pretty kid friendly.  Now the posts trying to make you outraged all seem to use the same clips.  So one drag queen didn't understand the assignment and got scorned.

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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2022, 04:01:24 PM »
There are dozens of videos on youtube.  The ones from reputable sources (NBC, PBS, CNN, CBS, various public libraries) all seem pretty kid friendly.  Now the posts trying to make you outraged all seem to use the same clips.  So one drag queen didn't understand the assignment and got scorned.

I don't trust anything from those "reputable sources", which are known to edit out the parts they want.

I've seen raw videos taken by parents in my own City.

And i disagree.


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Re: Texas may call slavery 'involuntary relocation'
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2022, 04:05:38 PM »
In a sense, strippers are just dancers.

Should be a welcome show in any elementary school auditorium.

Pole dancing is a sport, with national competitions.  It is not in itself sexual.  When done in a strip club it can be sexual.  It is okay to take children to pole dancing competitions.

Comedians tell jokes and stories.  Some are very inappropriate for children.  But that doesn't mean you can't have a comedian perform in a school auditorium.  They adjust their act for the target audience.

Drag queens are performers.  When done at a nightclub, their outfits can be very risque, their jokes can be very risque, which is not appropriate for children.  But drag queens performing in front of children are not dressing risque or telling risque jokes.