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Title: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 06:31:11 AM
ephedrine 50 mgs 30 mins before..

i pop em in the car before i leave/....i'm just starting to buzz as i start training......
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 27, 2006, 06:43:55 AM
 I just hit myself in the face and scream into the mirror before each workout.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Royalty on March 27, 2006, 06:47:22 AM
I just started taking this......

(http://www.springvalleyherbs.com/images/supplements/GuaranaEnergizer.jpg)
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Post by: Naked4Jesus on March 27, 2006, 06:54:05 AM
An eight balll and a shot of expresso!  Works everytime!!!  Wohoo!
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: analcandy on March 27, 2006, 07:05:30 AM
creatine as usual...
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on March 27, 2006, 07:07:18 AM
NO-Explode or LaBrada's "SuperCharged". I think LaBrada's is best!
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Karl Kox on March 27, 2006, 07:07:38 AM
No-Xplod works for me
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: blinky on March 27, 2006, 07:20:37 AM
ephedrine and all that stuff never worked for me. i just pound a couple large coffees
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Royalty on March 27, 2006, 07:26:50 AM
ephedrine and all that stuff never worked for me. i just pound a couple large coffees

Are you serious? I dont reccomend taking ephedrine But I never questioned its effecacy. You are one of the very few that dont respond to it. I reccomend to you the Guarana supplement I take (see above). I have read that guarana increases energy over a 6 hour period. Just dont take calcium supplements with caffiene because it hinders calcium absorbtion.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 27, 2006, 07:27:49 AM
ephedrine is the key to staying skinny and weak, if you need speed to train you're lost.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: blinky on March 27, 2006, 07:32:50 AM
Are you serious? I dont reccomend taking ephedrine But I never questioned its effecacy. You are one of the very few that dont respond to it. I reccomend to you the Guarana supplement I take (see above). I have read that guarana increases energy over a 6 hour period. Just dont take calcium supplements with caffiene because it hinders calcium absorbtion.

im serious. ive tried different kinds and it never worked. form small dosages to CRAZY.
i stopped trying about 5 years ago and if i ever fell the need for a "kick" i just have 2 large coffees.

if i ever feel the need for something better ill look into wht you use. thanx for the info
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on March 27, 2006, 07:34:41 AM
why do you need a stimulant to lift weights? That's stupid. For a cardio sport it seems more suited.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: blinky on March 27, 2006, 07:43:41 AM
why do you need a stimulant to lift weights? That's stupid. For a cardio sport it seems more suited.


once i got older thats what i realized as well. but somedays if im tired(always work really late) like i said....coffee is enough.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: body88 on March 27, 2006, 07:44:16 AM
I never got the stimulant thing either


just strap on a set and train
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 27, 2006, 07:51:48 AM
ephedrine is the key to staying skinny and weak, if you need speed to train you're lost.

I agree with this- Ephedrine will give you abs... but I can't imagine anyone putting on 20 pounds of muscle while popping ECA everyday.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 27, 2006, 07:55:52 AM
I agree with this- Ephedrine will give you abs... but I can't imagine anyone putting on 20 pounds of muscle while popping ECA everyday.
think about it, the shit takes away your appetite and interferes with sleep the two most important things in bodyBUILDING.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Childish///AMG on March 27, 2006, 07:58:59 AM
I tried Super pump 250 and it worked but I didn't like the taste. Now I take 1-2 scoops
of "Blast-Cycle" before I work out and its all good 8)
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Mars on March 27, 2006, 08:03:21 AM
Nubain works for me.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Eric2 on March 27, 2006, 08:03:40 AM
If I am really tired I simply will not train, no need to go through the motions and waste recovery time.
    Other than that I like to drink a small cup of coffee and eat an apple or some other kind of fruit some 20 min before a workout.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: brianX on March 27, 2006, 08:10:54 AM
I just mainline some cocaine beforehand
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 27, 2006, 08:19:30 AM
I just mainline some cocaine beforehand

 Tom? ???
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: BB on March 27, 2006, 08:52:44 AM
I like a bit of Tyrosine and Caff. for a boost when my ass is dragging.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 08:55:05 AM
ephedrine and all that stuff never worked for me. i just pound a couple large coffees

coffee makes my body temp rize..yes but leaves me jittery and unfocused..

surprisingly while i'm training i can stay intense with ephedrine..the jitters only hit when i walk out of the gym..and on ocassion i'll drive to my bar and have a cold glass of beer and chitchat with friends there right after...
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 27, 2006, 08:56:33 AM
tox, are you going to get off the ECA when you bulk up this summer?
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 08:56:43 AM
ephedrine is the key to staying skinny and weak, if you need speed to train you're lost.


i never go above 50 mgs anymore...(i used to 6 yrs ago take a lot more..)

and i cycle it 2 weeks one 1 week off (except leg days..thats always on)
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 09:00:02 AM
why do you need a stimulant to lift weights? That's stupid. For a cardio sport it seems more suited.

here what usually happens...

i take it in the car...

in the front end of the workout i'jm usually taking around 1 to 2 mins between sets...

by the end when the eph is really kicking i end up taking 30 secs..i'm pretty much going crazy...(that dosen't necessarily mean i'm going light )


i usually dont do cardio..if i do its usually a 20 min up hill sprint on the tread..or i find a hill and do sprints..
i do cardio ONLY to condition my lungs for squats and high rep deads...

i consider myself fat right now..yet i can see my abs and serratus when i flex..
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 09:01:37 AM
I agree with this- Ephedrine will give you abs... but I can't imagine anyone putting on 20 pounds of muscle while popping ECA everyday.

last summer i went from 150 to 185 in a matter of 1 1/2 months...at which point my dumbass hurt my shoulder...

as long as one dosen't overdo it and get plenty of water after training to flush it out..you'r fine..
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 27, 2006, 09:03:38 AM
last summer i went from 150 to 185 in a matter of 1 1/2 months...at which point my dumbass hurt my shoulder...

as long as one dosen't overdo it and get plenty of water after training to flush it out..you'r fine..
you said all that needs to be said right there, you consider being 185 pounds progress, no wonder you're 185.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 09:04:56 AM
tox, are you going to get off the ECA when you bulk up this summer?

damn i coulda put all my  responces in one message..owell..

will i stop the eca..nah..i've always trained with it...

when the buzz kicks in and the headphones go on..i am on another planet....i end up pushing myself in a way that i actually run a fever for a while after i train..i feel sick etc etc...(dont actually throw up though..its that..coming up half way feeling)...

can i do it without eph..well it'd take  me a lot more time to muster up the focus..to get to that feeling where i'm actually enjoying the pain..


so no..the eph stays.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 09:06:04 AM
you said all that needs to be said right there, you consider being 185 pounds progress, no wonder you're 185.

no..being 185 from 150 in a month and a half is progress..quick progress...if my dumbass had not hurt my shoulder deading at that point i'd be much heavier..
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 27, 2006, 09:09:30 AM
how tall are you? anyone can go from 150 to 185, when you're 150 you're small and in a catabolic state so going from 150 to 185 is nothing, 185 is what the typical American male is but theres no way you're going to go from 230 to 260 using ephedrine, no way.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Johnny Apollo on March 27, 2006, 09:13:14 AM
Amphetamine or a Tea-spoon full of Cocaine(Snorted).
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: brianX on March 27, 2006, 09:17:00 AM
Tom? ???

You're confusing cocaine with nubain.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: sean on March 27, 2006, 09:20:30 AM
THis shit is getting me blasted pre-workout! The combo of synephrine and ephedra is strong!
http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=14343
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Johnny Apollo on March 27, 2006, 09:21:36 AM
Training intensity when lifting is all mental. Physical stimulants really don't help that much.


Speak for yourself jackass...
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: onlyme on March 27, 2006, 09:22:18 AM
This is my stimulant
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
how tall are you? anyone can go from 150 to 185, when you're 150 you're small and in a catabolic state so going from 150 to 185 is nothing, 185 is what the typical American male is but theres no way you're going to go from 230 to 260 using ephedrine, no way.

i'm 5 10...

and 260..yeah you'r right about that friend..when i'm at the 230 point..i'll look into qutting the eph.....there..
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 09:24:16 AM
Training intensity when lifting is all mental. Physical stimulants really don't help that much.

Besides, ephedrine and similar stimulants raise blood pressure. Lifting (at least while you're mid-set) also raises blood pressure. Bad combo. When I've used ECA for cutting, I always did my lifting first thing in the AM before I took my ephedrine, or late evening after the last dose wore off.

you'r right goat..you'r right...(damn i'm mellow after training..eh)

anyhpw..this wasn't about health in the first place....
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on March 27, 2006, 10:08:51 AM
here what usually happens...

i take it in the car...

in the front end of the workout i'jm usually taking around 1 to 2 mins between sets...

by the end when the eph is really kicking i end up taking 30 secs..i'm pretty much going crazy...(that dosen't necessarily mean i'm going light )


i usually dont do cardio..if i do its usually a 20 min up hill sprint on the tread..or i find a hill and do sprints..
i do cardio ONLY to condition my lungs for squats and high rep deads...

i consider myself fat right now..yet i can see my abs and serratus when i flex..

I'm sorry to read that... I personally maintain striated glutes year round.  Although sometimes, you know... when they're not razor sharp I feel kind of inadequate.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Disgusted on March 27, 2006, 10:15:06 AM
Ephedra, what a buncha pussies.  ::)
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Post by: knny187 on March 27, 2006, 12:55:26 PM
I sniff gas fumes
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: gordiano on March 27, 2006, 12:57:43 PM
I just mainline some cocaine beforehand

With an advil back?
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 27, 2006, 02:25:36 PM
With an advil back?

 What's the worst that could happen?
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ignorance on March 27, 2006, 02:56:01 PM
I have sex then oral and that gets the blood going.  :o
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 27, 2006, 02:58:41 PM
I have sex then oral and that gets the blood going.  :o
how long does it take your boyfriend to cum?
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: TonyAlva on March 27, 2006, 03:03:59 PM
reefer reefer reefer...couple hits gets the blood pumping & lets you focus
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 27, 2006, 03:06:20 PM
Sometimes I'll take an Animal Pak at 4 a.m.

Then I'll kick my landlady down some steps, sideswipe some kids at a bus stop with my car, then kick down the gym door before they haven't opened yet, then have a mediocre workout experience.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: kicker on March 27, 2006, 03:36:43 PM
  I take an Ativan.     :)

Do you get panic attacks at the gym?  I'm being serious because I knew someone like that at the gym, and made quite a scene.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: hangclean on March 27, 2006, 03:50:13 PM
I use 25 mgs of ephedrine with 200 mgs of caffeine before every workout.  I usually take three months off it a year and I weigh 255 right now.  I dont see why people think it is bad for lifting, it helps my focus and endurance during heavy lifting and I never have problems sleeping because I train in the morning.  It also has never affected my weight.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: fearANDloathing on March 27, 2006, 03:52:02 PM
1 original formula stacker 2
1 aspirin


if it's gonna be a long one I'll take 1/2 spike tab by biotest. Good stuff
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: youngguns on March 27, 2006, 03:57:11 PM
I take Ephedra 60 mgs and 200 mgs. of caffine and 2 vicodin 500 mgs. because of a messed up shoulder. but make sure some food is in your stomach.
one day I saw the gym owner where I train in his truck doing a couple lines then came in and took some of my eca stack. I was hoping the whole time his heart didn't explode while he was doing squats.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 27, 2006, 04:43:42 PM
age, other meds/gear, factor in too.

I would NOT recommend 60 mg at once.
two doses- one in AM, one in afternoon, did wonders for me.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: gh15 on March 27, 2006, 04:58:19 PM
food/shake 1-1:30 min before training. test prop/suspension 2.5 units gh for the gh lovers 2 hour pre and then an hour post training and the igf1lr3 garbage if you believe you get anything close to real igf out of it ::) you dont.. but if you think you get anything out of it then go ahead and add it post training. slin IF your body likes it.. and IF and only IF you know what you are doing! some wont respond to it. thats bout it
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: BB on March 27, 2006, 05:34:29 PM
Do you take 60 mgs of ephedra at one time or in divided doses? Kinda seems like alot all at once. I usually take 25 mg in the morning. How much would it take to start being a health risk?


The original thought on the e/c stack for fat loss was 25mg ephedrine and 200mg caffeine 2-4 times daily.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: bigbalddaddy on March 27, 2006, 05:37:54 PM
I'll take some kava kava along with melatonin 45min prior and i'm good to go.  If I want to get really going, i'll drink a 6 pack of miller light too (only on days I max out)!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: gammahydroxy on March 27, 2006, 05:58:44 PM
I just mainline some cocaine beforehand

I get very paranoid in the gym when i mainline a few lines before..It feels like everyone is watching me..
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: plamzza on March 27, 2006, 06:06:36 PM
Green tea like 3 times before lifting. Eca is for cutting starts from April to end of summer.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 27, 2006, 06:08:17 PM
i didn't think you could even get ephedrine anymore, i've never really used it so maybe i'm out of the loop, wasn't it banned?
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: gammahydroxy on March 27, 2006, 07:03:40 PM
i didn't think you could even get ephedrine anymore, i've never really used it so maybe i'm out of the loop, wasn't it banned?

herbal ephedra in supps was banned..However, pharmaceutical ephedrine HCL is still available in walgreens and other drug stores..
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: CAPTAIN MARVEL on March 27, 2006, 08:21:13 PM
I like Ergopharm AMP or whatever energy pills I have laying around. AMP kicks ass though
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: youngguns on March 27, 2006, 08:30:10 PM
I take the 60mgs divided throughout the day, right before 20mgs, 200mgs caf.
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: HRDCOR on March 27, 2006, 08:51:47 PM
Yeah I do ,not much though , just ahhhhh lets see, around 2-3 grams of coke (the good stuff too, none of that west coast cut with ajax shit) ummmmm 5 to 6 ephidrine tabs , 3-4 E,s , oh some pure bake speed , but not so much of that cause that gets me edgy ,only about 10-12 lines of that , ahhhh ummm , 4 cans of red bull,5 cups of star bucks and ahhhhh sometimes I use a thermogenic but not often ,only on days when I am realy tired !!!!! thats about it realy ,oh and sometimes i might have a electrolyte drink whilst training but nothing to sugary !!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: piscitella on March 27, 2006, 09:21:35 PM
2 stacker III pills at night before every workout.  purchased 10 bottles before they got yanked off the market. 

on workout nights I try to have sex with the wife or rub one out to help get to sleep.  also pop 3-4 melatonin about an hour before I want to pass out
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: benchthis on March 27, 2006, 09:25:59 PM
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then i just get lazy and fall asleep
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on March 27, 2006, 11:01:45 PM
Yeah I do ,not much though , just ahhhhh lets see, around 2-3 grams of coke (the good stuff too, none of that west coast cut with ajax shit) ummmmm 5 to 6 ephidrine tabs , 3-4 E,s , oh some pure bake speed , but not so much of that cause that gets me edgy ,only about 10-12 lines of that , ahhhh ummm , 4 cans of red bull,5 cups of star bucks and ahhhhh sometimes I use a thermogenic but not often ,only on days when I am realy tired !!!!! thats about it realy ,oh and sometimes i might have a electrolyte drink whilst training but nothing to sugary !!!!!!!  ;D

<GASP> and you manage to unglue yourself from porn you'r watching? :o
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: Team Diver on March 28, 2006, 03:22:45 AM
ephedrine 50 mgs 30 mins before..

i pop em in the car before i leave/....i'm just starting to buzz as i start training......

I'm watching inspirational videos of 240 !!!!!
Title: Re: How many of yall take some sorta stimulant before training?
Post by: bigdumbbell on March 28, 2006, 04:54:52 AM
two venti starbucks bold will do it