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guys like nubret, zane, paddila, mentzer, corney, etc didnt eat more than 3 meals a day, yet got into pretty respectable condition, not 4%, but low bf, with a high level of muscularity
also some of the foods consumed pre contest were not "acceptable" in todays diets; breads, dairy. etc
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qWfhpO6oxJE/Su97Gh-96nI/AAAAAAAACu8/RBc89DnF43s/s320/Danny-Padilla-9_sized.jpg)
this brings up the old dilemma between frequent small meals, fasting & feeding, keto, and "normal" 3 meal a day diets
discuss
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Remember Arnold's breakfast before 75 O? In "Pumping Iron And Leopards" he ate eggwhites, toast and cofee ..
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3 meals a day is not normal for anyone who takes a part in any physical activity. Most "athletic" people I know eat from 5 to even 8 meals a day. They don't even work out, they just eat a lot.
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Remember Arnold's breakfast before 75 O? In "Pumping Iron And Leopards" he ate eggwhites, toast and cofee ..
exactly why I didnt mention him, I know he ate frequent small meals through the day
lots of others didnt
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3 meals a day is not normal for anyone who takes a part in any physical activity. Most "athletic" people I know eat from 5 to even 8 meals a day. They don't even work out, they just eat a lot.
wrong
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eating is overrated. bbing mags create fatasses.
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What you guys forget is that we are talking about the very beginning of Bodybuilding.
A lot had to be tested and tried, were today you log into the WWW and you find all the information presented to you, your problem is to pick the right one for you.
So of course Arnolds diet was all trial and error at times, but the information that we have now is largly based on the trials and errors of bodybuilders before us.
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In my opinion they used "a calorie is a calorie" diet...meaning they ate whatever, just in small quantities.
The only difference is that they ate as much protein as they could from basic sources...eggs, beef, fish etc.
remember that they did not "weight" their food back then neither had "calorieking.com" to keep track of their cals. They measured portions by the eye.
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I spent time with Francis Benefatto when he stayed here in Durban and asked him about his diet (he was prepping for a guest posing). he ate between 2 and 3 meals a day when dieting. Sometimes his first meal was at midday or later. He also ate most of his carbs in the evening. Said he woke up in the middle of the night to carb up sometimes as he trained 1st thing on an empty stomach, he drank 3 litres of water while he weight trained
IMO When dieting two most important things are:
1) Being Calorie deficient (Calories in calories out)
2) Getting you macros right (i.e. 250g protein,300g carbs ,50g fat)
Use whatever foods you like to make up your chosen macro ratio (Within reason, best to use foods with the highest macro nutrient density).
The number of meals your food is broken down into whether it be 3,4,5,6,7 0r 8 makes little difference in the big picture. (4-5 fits in well with most peoples schedules)
Obsessing about meal timing is over rated (eating religiously every 2 or 3 hours by the clock
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I bet they just ate when they were hungry 4-5 times a day, trying to reach good amount of protein and took it all simple
eat more when you need to grow, eat less when you need to cut and always train heavy.
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Ask Coach how they ate - he followed the same thinking in his comp days - pretty sure was high protein low carb low to moderate fats.
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I spent time with Francis Benefatto when he stayed here in Durban and asked him about his diet (he was prepping for a guest posing). he ate between 2 and 3 meals a day when dieting. Sometimes his first meal was at midday or later. He also ate most of his carbs in the evening. Said he woke up in the middle of the night to carb up sometimes as he trained 1st thing on an empty stomach, he drank 3 litres of water while he weight trained
IMO When dieting two most important things are:
1) Being Calorie deficient (Calories in calories out)
2) Getting you macros right (i.e. 250g protein,300g carbs ,50g fat)
Use whatever foods you like to make up your chosen macro ratio (Within reason, best to use foods with the highest macro nutrient density).
The number of meals your food is broken down into whether it be 3,4,5,6,7 0r 8 makes little difference in the big picture. (4-5 fits in well with most peoples schedules)
Obsessing about meal timing is over rated (eating religiously every 2 or 3 hours by the clock
agreed .. 2-3 meals is fine
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Ric Drasin talked about the diet they used back in the 70s.
Hamburger patties....cottage cheese....omlettes....tu na salad....chicken....not a ton of carbs.
They also used Rheo Blair's protein powder......and on Sunday they would go completely off the diet and eat whatever they desired..... then right back on the diet the next day.
All in all....very basic.....they kept things simple.....these days I think people eat 6-8 meals a day and it is over the top.....just my .02 though.
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Ric Drasin talked about the diet they used back in the 70s.
Hamburger patties....cottage cheese....omlettes....tu na salad....chicken....not a ton of carbs.
They also used Rheo Blair's protein powder......and on Sunday they would go completely off the diet and eat whatever they desired..... then right back on the diet the next day.
All in all....very basic.....they kept things simple.....these days I think people eat 6-8 meals a day and it is over the top.....just my .02 though.
This!!
High protein,moderate fat intake, and low to no carbs................... ...4-6 x a day,counting shakes.
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Hmmm. I used your method of cycling carbs, also going very low. Using Adam's principals I've achieved far better results and in turn haven't had to kill myself by consuming 50g of carbs a day etc.
a calorie is a calorie.
Please kill yourself.
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Vince Gironda cutting diet consisted of eggs and beef only, and every 4 to 5 days a carb up meal he recommends pasta, he got alot of old timers in shape.
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WTF you talkin' 'bout, bro ???
3 meals a day ? You serious ?
If true, then I would be more than fuuukin' happy to stop stuffing fukin' 6 meals a day in my stomach and doing nuttin' but cooking.... So give me sum' facts and I will instantly change my "diet" to consist only of three meals a day.
PLS
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Just look through those old weightlifting mags. For every name bodybuilder that ate 6 meals there were way more that ate 2-4(usually if they ate 4, one of the meals was a snack). One of the more popular diet methods was just tuna and water for as many weeks as you could stand it :'( :-\.
The real push toward multiple meals came with the growth of supplement companies. Especially Met-Rx and EAS style packets. They knew that eating that many times is a pain, so they pushed the 5-8 meals a day plan, and then acted like they were doing you a favor by offering you their pre packaged shakes for $2-3 each.
Just fix the protein at a decent amount, and eat enough calories. How you break up those meals means very, very little in the grand scheme of things.
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Hmmm. I used your method of cycling carbs, also going very low. Using Adam's principals I've achieved far better results and in turn haven't had to kill myself by consuming 50g of carbs a day etc.
a calorie is a calorie.
eat shit
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Just look through those old weightlifting mags. For every name bodybuilder that ate 6 meals there were way more that ate 2-4(usually if they ate 4, one of the meals was a snack). One of the more popular diet methods was just tuna and water for as many weeks as you could stand it :'( :-\.
The real push toward multiple meals came with the growth of supplement companies. Especially Met-Rx and EAS style packets. They knew that eating that many times is a pain, so they pushed the 5-8 meals a day plan, and then acted like they were doing you a favor by offering you their pre packaged shakes for $2-3 each.
Just fix the protein at a decent amount, and eat enough calories. How you break up those meals means very, very little in the grand scheme of things.
This!
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diet lol,,
it is all IN THE DRUGS USED AND THE TIMING YOU USE THEM AND IN THE DURATION ,,
DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THOSE FELLAS USED TRENBOLONA ACE ,, PARABOLAN,, THOSE ARE DRUGS WHERE DIET DOTN MATTER ,, THE LONGER YOU ARE ON THEM THE CRAZIER NASTIER FREAKIER YOU LOOK ,, YOU DONT GET IT? I DONT UNDERSTAND WHATS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU ,,
THERE IS NO NEED FOR DIET TO GET TO 70S CONDITION ,, 2 WEEK CLEAN DIET AT THE END THATS ABOUT IT
TRENBOLONA ACE! I CANT KEEP SAYING THIS TRENBOLONA ACE IS WHAT BRING THE CONDITION OF A BODYBUILDER
HGH IS WHAT TAKES IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF DIMENTIONAL INCREASE
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the main thing fellas dont understand is ,, that while we tell you wer take 50mg trenbolona ace every 2 day ....in reality we take 150mg every 12 hours lol or 200-400 mg every 24 hours or every 2 days....
fellas thikn that the body say ohhhhhhhhh no now the syrnge has a whole 3 ml of trenbolona ace in it i cant take it im going to go into shock,, BA FUCKIN LONIE,, the body accept it and cut itself during sleep with or with out your dry chiken ,, you can sit drink pineapple juice all day long with banans like a damn monkey sugar too icrecream and even pizza,, as long as you have in just enough calories and protien ...you will advance as bodybuilder and you will look AMAZING!
the higher trenbolona ace go ...the better you will look ,, diminishing returns is at the 2000mg a week and its not diminishing it is just a level where the human body can not work with its animnalistic level that a cow will work with mayeb but not human ,, 200mg of trenbolona every day will and does create amazing physiqes,,again like with everything now day ....hgh wil have to be there to volumize it to the level you are used to now days...otherwize you will be stuck with frankie zane in the ....mid 70s
gh15 approved
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At what point does body plateau or get used to certain tren dose where higher dose is needed? For instance if on 100mg day for 2 or 3 month can u up to 150 per day for next 3 month ? Also can u stay on tren all year long with just 1 or 2 month break here and there? U say ovr 2000mg a week can diminish returns can returns diminish after being on 150mg a day for long time or no?
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the main thing fellas dont understand is ,, that while we tell you wer take 50mg trenbolona ace every 2 day ....in reality we take 150mg every 12 hours lol or 200-400 mg every 24 hours or every 2 days....
fellas thikn that the body say ohhhhhhhhh no now the syrnge has a whole 3 ml of trenbolona ace in it i cant take it im going to go into shock,, BA FUCKIN LONIE,, the body accept it and cut itself during sleep with or with out your dry chiken ,, you can sit drink pineapple juice all day long with banans like a damn monkey sugar too icrecream and even pizza,, as long as you have in just enough calories and protien ...you will advance as bodybuilder and you will look AMAZING!
the higher trenbolona ace go ...the better you will look ,, diminishing returns is at the 2000mg a week and its not diminishing it is just a level where the human body can not work with its animnalistic level that a cow will work with mayeb but not human ,, 200mg of trenbolona every day will and does create amazing physiqes,,again like with everything now day ....hgh wil have to be there to volumize it to the level you are used to now days...otherwize you will be stuck with frankie zane in the ....mid 70s
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Ok, send me some tren ace "samples". You know where big man. ;D ;)
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the main thing fellas dont understand is ,, that while we tell you wer take 50mg trenbolona ace every 2 day ....in reality we take 150mg every 12 hours lol or 200-400 mg every 24 hours or every 2 days....
fellas thikn that the body say ohhhhhhhhh no now the syrnge has a whole 3 ml of trenbolona ace in it i cant take it im going to go into shock,, BA FUCKIN LONIE,, the body accept it and cut itself during sleep with or with out your dry chiken ,, you can sit drink pineapple juice all day long with banans like a damn monkey sugar too icrecream and even pizza,, as long as you have in just enough calories and protien ...you will advance as bodybuilder and you will look AMAZING!
the higher trenbolona ace go ...the better you will look ,, diminishing returns is at the 2000mg a week and its not diminishing it is just a level where the human body can not work with its animnalistic level that a cow will work with mayeb but not human ,, 200mg of trenbolona every day will and does create amazing physiqes,,again like with everything now day ....hgh wil have to be there to volumize it to the level you are used to now days...otherwize you will be stuck with frankie zane in the ....mid 70s
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GH I enjoy reading tyour posts and you tell it like it is-and how old school guys I looked up to were for the most part liars how they built their physiques-so has tren and gh been around since the 70s?
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guys like nubret, zane, paddila, mentzer, corney, etc didnt eat more than 3 meals a day, yet got into pretty respectable condition, not 4%, but low bf, with a high level of muscularity
also some of the foods consumed pre contest were not "acceptable" in todays diets; breads, dairy. etc
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qWfhpO6oxJE/Su97Gh-96nI/AAAAAAAACu8/RBc89DnF43s/s320/Danny-Padilla-9_sized.jpg)
this brings up the old dilemma between frequent small meals, fasting & feeding, keto, and "normal" 3 meal a day diets
discuss
GOOD POST! I've had way more success eating two big meals per day. WAY MORE SUCCESS...
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who the fuck is this GH guy?????
How do you know he is not some nut just bullshitting everyone here??
to the above poster......what do you mean the old timers are untruthful about their diets and how they got in shape????
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guys like nubret, zane, paddila, mentzer, corney, etc didnt eat more than 3 meals a day, yet got into pretty respectable condition, not 4%, but low bf, with a high level of muscularity
also some of the foods consumed pre contest were not "acceptable" in todays diets; breads, dairy. etc
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qWfhpO6oxJE/Su97Gh-96nI/AAAAAAAACu8/RBc89DnF43s/s320/Danny-Padilla-9_sized.jpg)
this brings up the old dilemma between frequent small meals, fasting & feeding, keto, and "normal" 3 meal a day diets
discuss
good post.
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who the fuck is this GH guy?????
How do you know he is not some nut just bullshitting everyone here??
to the above poster......what do you mean the old timers are untruthful about their diets and how they got in shape????
lOl im assuming GH15is a pro-I just meant that growing up they many never admitted to using hormones-please I used to talk to Serge on boards and he denied it RIP
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I have talked with three pro bbers......porter cottrell....phil williams.....and boyer coe.
all these gents were more than honest about diet and drugs.
phil told me he used deca and dbol....same with porter.....boyer told me he used GH while preparing for the 1994 Masters show. He also told me that several times a week.... he ate cake because his body was burning calories at such a crazy rate.
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What happened to Porter Cottrell ?
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What happened to Porter Cottrell ?
He underwent rectal surgery
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GTFIH IN HERE DISGUSTED.
READING HIS POSTS...IT'S HIGH ANABOLIC, LOW TO NO TEST, HIGH GH, LOW CARB, AND AN OVERALL MODERATE EATING SCHEDULE. THE DRUGS IM LEARNING FROM HIM...THE DIET PART WE'VE ALL READ FROM BB.COM IS JUST BULLSHIT. JUST EAT BASED ON YOUR APPETITE, GET HIGH PROTEIN IN, TRY TO EAT HEALTHY DON'T OVEREAT.
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GTFIH IN HERE DISGUSTED.
READING HIS POSTS...IT'S HIGH ANABOLIC, LOW TO NO TEST, HIGH GH, LOW CARB, AND AN OVERALL MODERATE EATING SCHEDULE. THE DRUGS IM LEARNING FROM HIM...THE DIET PART WE'VE ALL READ FROM BB.COM IS JUST BULLSHIT. JUST EAT BASED ON YOUR APPETITE, GET HIGH PROTEIN IN, TRY TO EAT HEALTHY DON'T OVEREAT.
You guys should get over with this "low to no test" thing.
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I have talked with three pro bbers......porter cottrell....phil williams.....and boyer coe.
all these gents were more than honest about diet and drugs.
phil told me he used deca and dbol....same with porter.....boyer told me he used GH while preparing for the 1994 Masters show. He also told me that several times a week.... he ate cake because his body was burning calories at such a crazy rate.
Burned because of the GH?
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You guys should get over with this "low to no test" thing.
WHEN YOU WORK WITH PROS FROM THAT ERA YOU MAY SPEAK, UNTIL THEN DONT FUCKING SPEAK.
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I followed a stupid thread on BB, and the premise was to eat just one gigantic meal a day, along with maybe a very small protein shake or nutrient dense drink (6 ounces or so) throughout the day. I liked it, as I didn't have to preoccupy myself with packing and finding time to eat every 2 or 3 hours to get my 6 meals in. I noticed no real gains or losses in fat or muscle, but my "stress" was a bit lower and it seemed to make my late, late evening gym visits a bit more energetic.
The hardest part is just wolfing down all that food to get the protein and calories you need. You leave feeling really, really full and got tired after about 8 months or so.
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Mentzer talked about 800-1000 calories per day pre-contest along with running for cardio. He didn't mention the amphetamines though.
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Mentzer talked about 800-1000 calories per day pre-contest along with running for cardio. He didn't mention the amphetamines though.
How on earth you keep any muscle on that low calories ???
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WHEN YOU WORK WITH PROS FROM THAT ERA YOU MAY SPEAK, UNTIL THEN DONT FUCKING SPEAK.
Whatever man.
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How on earth you keep any muscle on that low calories ???
High protein and drugs.
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drugs.
fixed.
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fixed.
:)
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What happened to Porter Cottrell ?
He is still in Louisville......still on the fire department. Recently got remarried. Probably 50 by now.
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Burned because of the GH?
yes.....boyer said the GH wasn't great for size....but was very good for stripping bodyfat.
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who the fuck is this GH guy?????
How do you know he is not some nut just bullshitting everyone here??
to the above poster......what do you mean the old timers are untruthful about their diets and how they got in shape????
He might be BSing about the drug info I dont know, but he def knows bodybuilding. Guy is the real deal and has spent alot of time in the gym whoever he is..
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GTFIH IN HERE DISGUSTED.
READING HIS POSTS...IT'S HIGH ANABOLIC, LOW TO NO TEST, HIGH GH, LOW CARB, AND AN OVERALL MODERATE EATING SCHEDULE. THE DRUGS IM LEARNING FROM HIM...THE DIET PART WE'VE ALL READ FROM BB.COM IS JUST BULLSHIT. JUST EAT BASED ON YOUR APPETITE, GET HIGH PROTEIN IN, TRY TO EAT HEALTHY DON'T OVEREAT.
finaly!,, finaly! good!
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How on earth you keep any muscle on that low calories ???
AL TOGETHER NOW PUPILS,,,
TRENBOLONA ACETATE! it is not 800 calories it is doign nothnig duing day aside from contest preop and sleep and it is more closer to 1500calories to 2000 calories somewhere there
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He might be BSing about the drug info I dont know, but he def knows bodybuilding. Guy is the real deal and has spent alot of time in the gym whoever he is..
not only thre is no balonie about the drug information but the actual nutrition im telling you is first hands,, doi you ever se big fella lean big fella sit and down tons of meals tons of calories every 2 hours or every 3 hour or every 4 hour? lol think about it ,, lol we eat normal we put in 4000 calories a day if we are HUGE and i mean much bigger than 200 lb lean lol 4000 ...thats it and yet we grow to tremendous sizes ,,why? how come?
becauseeeeee the food go to the right places due to the drugs...all together now
trenbolona ace
growth hormone
equipona
testosterona
etc
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Gironda used to have a steak and pineapple diet that worked very well.
I did it for two weeks in grad school while training pretty damned hard and I got very good results. Eating that much steak made me poorer though.
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guys like nubret, zane, paddila, mentzer, corney, etc didnt eat more than 3 meals a day, yet got into pretty respectable condition, not 4%, but low bf, with a high level of muscularity
also some of the foods consumed pre contest were not "acceptable" in todays diets; breads, dairy. etc
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qWfhpO6oxJE/Su97Gh-96nI/AAAAAAAACu8/RBc89DnF43s/s320/Danny-Padilla-9_sized.jpg)
this brings up the old dilemma between frequent small meals, fasting & feeding, keto, and "normal" 3 meal a day diets
discuss
Danny's conditioning is better than most of the pros today.
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agreed .. 2-3 meals is fine
If im not mistaken this is th same approach middle eastern body builders are using.Buselmo mentioned something like that i think
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Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed watching it. It sure musta been awesome to be a bodybuilder in the 70s.
I enjoy Ricks shows.
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agreed .. 2-3 meals is fine
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rambod has phil and jay eating 7-8 meals a day. i've only had 1 meal today, and am holding steady at 208 lbs.
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rambod has phil and jay eating 7-8 meals a day. i've only had 1 meal today, and am holding steady at 208 lbs.
You gotta have a shit ton of drugs flowing through you...GH, insulin, tren, test, eq, deca
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You gotta have a shit ton of drugs flowing through you...GH, insulin, tren, test, eq, deca
very very good!,, very very good
yes when you are on 15-30 iu gh daily basis ,, you will eat 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 timees a day lol and yuo will eat not clean lol ,, you will just sit and eat lol doesnt mean mcdonals,, but it means more linient on the food you wil eat whatever your body grow on best,, everyone is diff and find what it is for them
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I'd be curious to see if someone could become a freak on tren alone, I mean specifically as the only AAS used in the toolbox. 1-2 grams of tren year round for a year or two. I mean there has GOT to be some redneck in the middle of nowhere with no hookup for shit, who only has access to finaplix, who just makes those fina kits all day in his mother's basement and walks around 230 hard. I've seen too many freaks out here who I dont think even own a computer lol but they all know how to make tren!
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I'd be curious to see if someone could become a freak on tren alone, I mean specifically as the only AAS used in the toolbox. 1-2 grams of tren year round for a year or two. I mean there has GOT to be some redneck in the middle of nowhere with no hookup for shit, who only has access to finaplix, who just makes those fina kits all day in his mother's basement and walks around 230 hard. I've seen too many freaks out here who I dont think even own a computer lol but they all know how to make tren!
not big freak ,, qwuality freak,, you have to have testosterona in and out for thickness,, the thickness is very important and the testosterona need to be cycled right to create the thickness while trenbolona scuplt this created thickness,, equipona is good too to get into high drive to build this polished quality look with trenbolona and then you can take testosterona down really low for sometime and reintroduce it later
and ofcourse...gh ,, no matter how nasty you will look on trenbolona .... it wil still look not impressive in a shirt as in you will be able to show quality and fellas iwll know you are bodybuild and look quality and look very muscular and conditioned...but! in a shirt and out of a shirt...you will lack the volume that make people go WOW what the fuck ,, it is the conditioned size,, the conditioned volumized size that impress the bodybuild lovers ,, if you want to impres local whores...then trenbolona with minimal testosterona will do it ,,will get you lots and lots of pussy ,,but for bodybuild crowd ...to impress the dantas and sons as i call them ...you will have to have the trenbolona go along with gh and with testosterona and know what you do ,, since as you heard before danta and sons dont even look at 180lb fellas....lol ofcourse danta and sons dont know balonie about what they talk about since 180lb in great condition wipe floor with danta...but for imprsse this biker heavy set type of fatzos you will need gh inaddition to trenbolona and testosterona and variety of other products
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phil told me he used deca and dbol....same with porter.....boyer told me he used GH while preparing for the 1994 Masters show. He also told me that several times a week.... he ate cake because his body was burning calories at such a crazy rate.
not doubting they were on dbol and deca, but pretty sure they left a few things out, and understated dosages, thats what they do, even the honest ones
retired or not, you dont hear the mclaren engineer saying exactly what is in the new motor, cause the other guys are listening, plus the "I'm special, and gifted, all hard work, drugs are finishing touch" side of things
dont forget, in the early 80s boyer was "natural", along with tinnerino. they did look a bit smaller, but I think their definition of natural was different from the perception of other people. it was probably ; less deca, then run dbol only final weeks, and last week go completely clean...
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not doubting they were on dbol and deca, but pretty sure they left a few things out, and understated dosages, thats what they do, even the honest ones
retired or not, you dont hear the mclaren engineer saying exactly what is in the new motor, cause the other guys are listening, plus the "I'm special, and gifted, all hard work, drugs are finishing touch" side of things
dont forget, in the early 80s boyer was "natural", along with tinnerino. they did look a bit smaller, but I think their definition of natural was different from the perception of other people. it was probably ; less deca, then run dbol only final weeks, and last week go completely clean...
cant go completely clean in high competetive level in last week lol ,, doesnt work this way ,, low level you can at times but also not typical ,, why would you use all the hormone just to go clean last week lol bodybuild is such a fucked up set of mind sometime i think im in a circus well i am in a circus,, until the last day you use ,, the fuckin diuretics are used till the morning of show lol ,,
with out the hormone there is NO bodybuilding,, yes you can be 200lb 12% lol yes you can be 230lb 15% and think you are 10% but you are not ,,,no hormone = no bodybuild
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cant go completely clean in high competetive level in last week lol ,, doesnt work this way ,, low level you can at times but also not typical ,, why would you use all the hormone just to go clean last week lol bodybuild is such a fucked up set of mind sometime i think im in a circus well i am in a circus,, until the last day you use ,, the fuckin diuretics are used till the morning of show lol ,,
with out the hormone there is NO bodybuilding,, yes you can be 200lb 12% lol yes you can be 230lb 15% and think you are 10% but you are not ,,,no hormone = no bodybuild
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yes,
I was exaggerating and being sarcastic to highlight ridiculous concept of a pro bber competing drug free
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rambod has phil and jay eating 7-8 meals a day. i've only had 1 meal today, and am holding steady at 208 lbs.
maybe rimjob could improve your eating habits
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Vince Gironda = steak, eggs, low carbs, liver tablets and wheat germ oil.
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francis benfatto was one of my favourite bbers
one thing that him and other serge nubret pupils, like pastel have in common also, is the masters favourite supplement (originally made in france) which he cannot mention due to commitments to muscle science and now his own sup line...
I spent time with Francis Benefatto when he stayed here in Durban and asked him about his diet (he was prepping for a guest posing). he ate between 2 and 3 meals a day when dieting. Sometimes his first meal was at midday or later. He also ate most of his carbs in the evening. Said he woke up in the middle of the night to carb up sometimes as he trained 1st thing on an empty stomach, he drank 3 litres of water while he weight trained
IMO When dieting two most important things are:
1) Being Calorie deficient (Calories in calories out)
2) Getting you macros right (i.e. 250g protein,300g carbs ,50g fat)
Use whatever foods you like to make up your chosen macro ratio (Within reason, best to use foods with the highest macro nutrient density).
The number of meals your food is broken down into whether it be 3,4,5,6,7 0r 8 makes little difference in the big picture. (4-5 fits in well with most peoples schedules)
Obsessing about meal timing is over rated (eating religiously every 2 or 3 hours by the clock
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Great vid, THANKS!!!
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WHEN YOU WORK WITH PROS FROM THAT ERA YOU MAY SPEAK, UNTIL THEN DONT FUCKING SPEAK.
Man you got a temper on you, lol. Meso Z is a very cool bro. Talk to me like that I'd be in a midget rage hahaha :-*
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I'd be curious to see if someone could become a freak on tren alone, I mean specifically as the only AAS used in the toolbox. 1-2 grams of tren year round for a year or two. I mean there has GOT to be some redneck in the middle of nowhere with no hookup for shit, who only has access to finaplix, who just makes those fina kits all day in his mother's basement and walks around 230 hard. I've seen too many freaks out here who I dont think even own a computer lol but they all know how to make tren!
I live near 'the middle of nowhere' and know guys who cycle nothing but tren. 2 twin brothers come to mind and they have been cycling tren for years and have quality physiques. As gh mentioned though, they're missing the thickness needed from test.