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Title: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Nails on March 16, 2014, 01:45:48 PM
LMFAO!!! If you put it in 2 , please step forward towards the Death Squad



http://news.yahoo.com/crimeans-overwhelmingly-vote-secession-203613036.html (http://news.yahoo.com/crimeans-overwhelmingly-vote-secession-203613036.html)




Crimeans overwhelmingly vote for secession




SIMFEROPOL, Ukraine (AP) — The head of the referendum committee in Ukraine's Crimea region says more than 95 percent of voters have approved splitting off and joining Russia.

Mikhail Malishev said the initial result came after more than 50 percent of the ballots had been counted.

Sunday's vote was denounced by the West and the acting Ukrainian government as illegitimate.





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Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: sagittal chest on March 16, 2014, 01:48:45 PM
Crimea River
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Nails on March 16, 2014, 01:50:18 PM
What part of Ukraine take over is next on the agenda ???
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: bradistani on March 16, 2014, 01:51:35 PM
(http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb/msid-32114433,width-300,resizemode-4/Cameron.jpg)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: The True Adonis on March 16, 2014, 01:53:49 PM
What I find hilarious is that there are a lot of morons who support this Crimean secession, but don`t like or support that the United States, the southern states, voted for the exact same thing and did it all legally.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 16, 2014, 01:55:19 PM
Well this is the ultimate in spreading some democracy.

95% of people want it.

What are Obama and his chums going to say?  That the 5% should make the decisions?

Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: tbombz on March 16, 2014, 02:31:18 PM
What I find hilarious is that there are a lot of morons who support this Crimean secession, but don`t like or support that the United States, the southern states, voted for the exact same thing and did it all legally.

If you are referring to me, I never said I opposed the secession of the south.  :)


Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: sagittal chest on March 16, 2014, 02:36:34 PM
What I find hilarious is that there are a lot of morons who support this Crimean secession, but don`t like or support that the United States, the southern states, voted for the exact same thing and did it all legally.

I am not against southern secession.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: ismoseppo on March 16, 2014, 02:42:02 PM
Quebec wants to leave Canada, again.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Nails on March 16, 2014, 02:43:06 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140314094233-04-ukraine-0314-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Nails on March 16, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140306121032-03-ukraine-0306-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Nails on March 16, 2014, 02:45:04 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140304105126-07-ukraine-0304-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Nails on March 16, 2014, 02:45:55 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140301175532-obama-putin-ukraine-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 16, 2014, 03:46:33 PM
There is NO discretion in "Voting" i these places, I've seen it first-hand, in Croatia and Bosnia. 
You either "Vote" for the system, or you get marked for later punishment...
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 16, 2014, 03:55:58 PM
What I find hilarious is that there are a lot of morons who support this Crimean secession, but don`t like or support that the United States, the southern states, voted for the exact same thing and did it all legally.

I support both legal secessions.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Nails on March 16, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
Fireworks and celebrations on the streets
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: galeniko on March 16, 2014, 05:57:13 PM
wow guess what.

everybody missed something, in italy, yesterday, was a referendum whether venezia wants to seceede from italy.

the media is etremly quiet on this.

wow
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 16, 2014, 05:59:38 PM
wow guess what.

everybody missed something, in italy, yesterday, was a referendum whether venezia wants to seceede from italy.

the media is etremly quiet on this.

wow

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=524049.0
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on March 16, 2014, 06:32:59 PM
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: MikMaq on March 16, 2014, 06:39:06 PM
Quebec wants to leave Canada, again.
Quebec leaving would be like that episode of the fresh prince of bell air where Hilary "moves out", by taking up residency in the pool house and using the money uncle phil supplied for "rent" to rent furniture.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: MikMaq on March 16, 2014, 06:44:55 PM
There is NO discretion in "Voting" i these places, I've seen it first-hand, in Croatia and Bosnia. 
You either "Vote" for the system, or you get marked for later punishment...
Don't trying using actual experience or cultural familiarity this is getbig. Preferred means of Inferences are internet memes and references from film.


Well this is the ultimate in spreading some democracy.

95% of people want it.

What are Obama and his chums going to say?  That the 5% should make the decisions?


The 95 percent number is apparently bullshit. The people that knew they were in the minority refused the vote, because at best they'd get less than 50 percent due to demographic, and there fear would be this would bring legitimacy to the act.

Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Nails on March 16, 2014, 09:08:59 PM
Obama to putin,

America doest give a fuck about your vote results, will not recognize crimea as part of russia  :-\



 http://news.yahoo.com/us-rejects-crimea-vote-cites-russian-intimidation-182209667--politics.html (http://news.yahoo.com/us-rejects-crimea-vote-cites-russian-intimidation-182209667--politics.html)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: NightTrain on March 16, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
Putin doesnt give a fuck about Obama and so he shouldnt. I wouldnt fuck around with the Russians, they are scary as shit
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: NightTrain on March 17, 2014, 09:54:23 PM
Quebec wants to leave Canada, again.

Canada would be better without these whiny frogs.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: musclecenter on March 17, 2014, 10:02:35 PM
Russia can turn U.S. to radioactive ash: Kremlin-backed journalist :o

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-turn-u-radioactive-ash-kremlin-backed-journalist-223608042--sector.html (http://news.yahoo.com/russia-turn-u-radioactive-ash-kremlin-backed-journalist-223608042--sector.html)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 17, 2014, 10:06:34 PM
They voted.  Done deal.  Now I am sure the US government will respect DEMOCRACY.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Red Hook on March 18, 2014, 04:36:13 AM
What I find hilarious is that there are a lot of morons who support this Crimean secession, but don`t like or support that the United States, the southern states, voted for the exact same thing and did it all legally.

Well, that was over 250 years ago. Today the media (social and non social) combined with the global political climate makes for interesting discourse. Most people equate the civil war with a fight for pro/con slavery.  I am sure that there were other aspects of it but that is the message that is out there. Plus most Americans are of the mindset "If it doesn't happen in America then I don't care".



Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Red Hook on March 18, 2014, 04:38:28 AM
They voted.  Done deal.  Now I am sure the US government will respect DEMOCRACY.

The US is no longer the leading world power. Currently we are 3rd behind China and Russia in terms of global power.

If/when Russia brings Crimea into the fold there is a not darn thing the US can do about it.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: MAXX on March 18, 2014, 05:38:27 AM
95% tells me the voting was corrupted...
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 18, 2014, 06:49:49 AM
Well, that was over 250 years ago. Today the media (social and non social) combined with the global political climate makes for interesting discourse. Most people equate the civil war with a fight for pro/con slavery.  I am sure that there were other aspects of it but that is the message that is out there. Plus most Americans are of the mindset "If it doesn't happen in America then I don't care".





150, but who's counting.  Also, it was about the Morrill Tariff more than anything, that stopped free trade in the South, and made it a virtual slave to the industrial North. 

The only beef I have with this Crimea thing, is that there was no option for it to remain exactly as is.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: mass243 on March 18, 2014, 07:17:48 AM

Crazy ass going right there  ;D

But masses seem to love it:

While it may be debatable that Mr. Putin’s image among Russians can be explicitly tied to the events unfolding in Ukraine, his approval rating increased to 71.6 percent last week — the highest it has been since he returned to the Russian presidency in 2012.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/17/russia-embrace-crimea-swiftly-poll-shows-putins-po/
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: mass243 on March 18, 2014, 07:27:29 AM
What part of Ukraine take over is next on the agenda ???

Well, constant pro-Russia rallies have been seen recently at least in Donetsk, Harkov etc.

Highly unlikely Russia will take more, though. It would be way too expensive if more of Ukraine became Russia. It's more probable Russia will use this unrest as a negotiating tool to push more autonomy for various pro-Russia areas within Ukraine.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 18, 2014, 07:28:37 AM
Well, constant pro-Russia rallies have been seen recently at least in Donetsk, Harkov etc.

Highly unlikely Russia will take more, though. It would be way too expensive if more of Ukraine became Russia. It's more probable Russia will use this unrest as a negotiating tool to push more autonomy for various pro-Russia areas within Ukraine.

Are you pushing for a reincorporation of Finland into Mother Russia?
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 18, 2014, 07:39:48 AM
They voted.  Done deal.  Now I am sure the US government will respect DEMOCRACY.
^^
You ever tried to vote out in the open while being watched by guards with AK-47's??
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: mass243 on March 18, 2014, 08:30:14 AM
^^
You ever tried to vote out in the open while being watched by guards with AK-47's??

LOL, Ask Irakis and Afghans.
Well, the "monitors" there had M4's or whatever but they fire almost as deadly as AK's  :D


This is how tense the atmosphere was at Crimean polling station  ;D
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: James on March 18, 2014, 08:33:29 AM
Vice News
The Invasion of Ukraine

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Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 18, 2014, 08:38:35 AM
What I find hilarious is that there are a lot of morons who support this Crimean secession, but don`t like or support that the United States, the southern states, voted for the exact same thing and did it all legally.

Exactly, it should have been allowed. Instead Lincoln and the northern federal gov decided it would be better to destroy as much as necessary and kill as many people as it took to maintain control over them.

Yet today he is universally praised as a 'great man' and synonymous with 'freedom'. Oh the irony ::)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 18, 2014, 08:44:31 AM
Exactly, it should have been allowed. Instead Lincoln and the northern federal gov decided it would be better to destroy as much as necessary and kill as many people as it took to maintain control over them.
Yet today he is universally praised as a 'great man' and synonymous with 'freedom'. Oh the irony ::)

Yes, he invaded the South with an army of 75,000, to collect a tariff that he vowed to enforce, on states that had already seceded.  He also, had no love for blacks, said on many occasions that they could not live with whites, and was a proponent of sending them back to Africa to recolonize.  But hey, he was the Great Emancipator  ::)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: mass243 on March 18, 2014, 08:46:00 AM
Are you pushing for a reincorporation of Finland into Mother Russia?

Of course not.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 18, 2014, 09:15:37 AM
Yes, he invaded the South with an army of 75,000, to collect a tariff that he vowed to enforce, on states that had already seceded.  He also, had no love for blacks, said on many occasions that they could not live with whites, and was a proponent of sending them back to Africa to recolonize.  But hey, he was the Great Emancipator  ::)

Lol yes. The Cult of Lincoln is one of history's great propoganda jobs. The Left has turned him into this great benevolent leader who loved black people and invaded the evil racist south just to free them. Hahahhaha
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: manuelsonn on March 18, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
The only question unanswered it s WHEN the ammuricana will start bombing ukraine because that state doesnt recognize the voted independece of one of its provinces, i mean autonomus region.. of, sorry, that approach was only legit in serbia.. (or falkland if u ask the perfid albion)
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on March 19, 2014, 11:31:06 AM
Vice News
The Invasion of Ukraine

Part 1:
&index=14

Part 2:


Part3:
&index=12

Part4:


Part 5:
&index=10

Part 6:


Part 7:


Part 8:


Part 9:


Thank you for posting these. I wish that I could've seen them earlier.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Nomad on March 21, 2014, 12:20:24 AM
The only question unanswered it s WHEN the ammuricana will start bombing ukraine because that state doesnt recognize the voted independece of one of its provinces, i mean autonomus region.. of, sorry, that approach was only legit in serbia.. (or falkland if u ask the perfid albion)

loool, there isonly one democracy, American democracy.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 21, 2014, 12:25:43 AM
Well this is the ultimate in spreading some democracy.

95% of people want it.

What are Obama and his chums going to say?  That the 5% should make the decisions?




Yes. 
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: falco on March 21, 2014, 06:53:43 AM
THE WESTERN COUNTRIES ARE AGAINST DEMOCRACY AFTER ALL
Title: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 22, 2014, 12:30:02 AM
Join Team Putin brothers, human honor and dignity are up for stakes. 
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: ismoseppo on March 22, 2014, 12:31:28 AM
Join Team Putin brothers, human honor and dignity are up for stakes. 

i would sure as hell be on team putin----the guy is awesome---fuk obama
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 12:32:39 AM
I'm in
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 22, 2014, 12:34:14 AM
Im already in team kim jong un but im sure he wont mind if i join team putin to so im in
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: FermiDirac on March 22, 2014, 12:42:16 AM
Im already in team kim jong un but im sure he wont mind if i join team putin to so im in

North Korea, best Korea!
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 22, 2014, 12:46:44 AM
North Korea, best Korea!
8)
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 22, 2014, 12:50:35 AM
i would sure as hell be on team putin----the guy is awesome---fuk obama


Awesome?  No one likes a country that just decides to grab the land of a neighbor.  Even Putin's wary pal China would only go so far as to abstain rather than voting in the UN Security Council for his position.  This is a bad miscalculation.  Sticking a pencil in Obama's eye is one thing, but conjuring up forebodings of Hitler will make you everyone's enemy pronto.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: freespirit on March 22, 2014, 12:53:02 AM
In.   8)
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 22, 2014, 12:57:57 AM

Awesome?  No one likes a country that just decides to grab the land of a neighbor.  Even Putin's wary pal China would only go so far as to abstain rather than voting in the UN Security Council for his position.  This is a bad miscalculation.  Sticking a pencil in Obama's eye is one thing, but conjuring up forebodings of Hitler will make you everyone's enemy pronto.

NObody likes you buddy.  You're full of sh1t.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: theredeemer on March 22, 2014, 12:59:55 AM
Putin isn't perfect, but next to Obama and co he is a saint, so I'm in!
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 22, 2014, 01:00:09 AM

Awesome?  No one likes a country that just decides to grab the land of a neighbor.  Even Putin's wary pal China would only go so far as to abstain rather than voting in the UN Security Council for his position.  This is a bad miscalculation.  Sticking a pencil in Obama's eye is one thing, but conjuring up forebodings of Hitler will make you everyone's enemy pronto.
you forgot to put no homo in this post, homo
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 01:01:14 AM
you forgot to put no homo in this post, homo

ROFL!!
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 22, 2014, 01:03:48 AM
you forgot to put no homo in this post, homo

Eat shit, Bob.  Don't mean that in a bad way, but bad boy fantasies about Putin are a homo sign for sure.

BTW, I call bullshit on your Mensa status.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 01:05:13 AM
Eat shit, Bob.  Don't mean that in a bad way, but bad boy fantasies about Putin are a homo sign for sure.

BTW, I call bullshit on your Mensa status.

Crimea doesn't have the right to secede in your opinion, or you don't think the vote was legitimate?

Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: sagittal chest on March 22, 2014, 01:13:18 AM
I'm in.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 22, 2014, 01:19:39 AM
Crimea doesn't have the right to secede in your opinion, or you don't think the vote was legitimate?



Crimea only "voted" to secede because the Russian majority wanted to join Russia, and there is no provision in the Ukrainian constitution allowing such a vote. 

If 100 years from now an English speaking (by then) minority in the US was used by Canada to annex New England, it would not be legitimate, either.  Land grabs by more powerful nations of chunks of their neighbor's territory can't be tolerated.  Putin has isolated himself.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 01:35:30 AM
Crimea only "voted" to secede because the Russian majority wanted to join Russia, and there is no provision in the Ukrainian constitution allowing such a vote. 

If 100 years from now an English speaking (by then) minority in the US was used by Canada to annex New England, it would not be legitimate, either.  Land grabs by more powerful nations of chunks of their neighbor's territory can't be tolerated.  Putin has isolated himself.

Interesting how Obama, the EU, and western media supported the unconstitutional overthrow of the democratically elected government, though.

Putin successfully outflanked the globalists who want to cut off Russia, and he's suddenly the bad guy. The Crimeans have every right to rejoin Russia.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: SuperTed on March 22, 2014, 01:38:34 AM
Putin's the man! 8)
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 22, 2014, 01:38:53 AM
Interesting how Obama, the EU, and western media supported the unconstitutional overthrow of the democratically elected government, though.

Putin successfully outflanked the globalists who want to cut off Russia, and he's suddenly the bad guy. The Crimeans have every right to rejoin Russia.
+1

And look at one of the parties in the soon to be ukrainian goverment, fucking neo nazis..obama is helping nazis.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 01:40:48 AM
+1

And look at one of the parties in the soon to be ukrainian goverment, fucking neo nazis..obama is helping nazis.

Good point, it's so bizarre...

Just like Obama and McCain wanted so desperately to fight alongside Al Qaeda in Syria... Till Putin generously saved the American people from being dragged into another war by lunatics.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 22, 2014, 01:44:32 AM
Good point, it's so bizarre...

Just like Obama and McCain wanted so desperately to fight alongside Al Qaeda in Syria... Till Putin generously saved the American people from being dragged into another war by lunatics.
yeah that was so fucked up the syria thing...obama helping muslim terrorist against a christian..american people should thank putin for that
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 22, 2014, 01:45:40 AM
Good point, it's so bizarre...

Just like Obama and McCain wanted so desperately to fight alongside Al Qaeda in Syria...

Nazi's and extreme islam fit nicely together, and obama fit's in just lovely and snug too.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Skorp1o on March 22, 2014, 01:50:29 AM
Putin is an arrogant kunt, reeks of typical Russian ignorance, but between him and that brown American puppet at least you'll know where u stand with putin and he likes fishing topless, which is cool.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: mass243 on March 22, 2014, 02:13:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/9WZoZaX.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 03:21:14 AM
Rush Limbaugh: Obama Is Running Around in Mom Jeans While Putin Is Being Strategically Brilliant


on Breitbart TV 21 Mar 2014 110 post a comment
On Friday after a caller made the argument Russian President Vladimir Putin might be crazy, Rush Limbaugh took on Putin psychological profile and deemed him not a looney for running around with no shirt but actually strategically brilliant...

Follow Pam on Twitter @pamkeyNEN

Video: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/03/21/Rush-Obama-Is-Running-Around-In-Mom-Jeans-While-Putin-is-Being-Strategically-Brilliant

(no coach)
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 03:54:41 AM
haha... Our disgusting complicit mainstream media is going berserk over Crimea.

That bitch Christiane Amanpour got owned:

Russia's UN envoy Churkin replies to CNN anchor Amanpour
Published time: March 21, 2014 21:13
Get short URL

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=527143.0;attach=558845;image)

Russian ambassador to the United Nations Vitaly Churkin has issued a response to Christiane Amanpour after the CNN anchor lashed out at the diplomat over his inability to appear on her show and brought his daughter into the equation.

In her Thursday show, Amanpour said: "And one more note: we continue to reach out to the Russian government for their comment, including officials such as UN Ambassador, Vitaly Churkin. We haven't had much luck, but perhaps people like Churkin feel they don't really have to leave their comfort zone."

“Churkin’s own daughter is the US-based reporter for ‘Russia Today’ in New York. She's shown here, quizzing US State Department spokesman, Jen Psaki, over this whole Ukraine crisis. And in the past, she's even reported on her own father.”

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Dear Ms. Amanpour,

I am taken aback by the personal attacks you resorted to in your show on March 20. I have known you for many years (including through a number of on-the-air interviews) and used to respect you professionally. So it was somewhat startling that my inability to give another interview provoked such an outburst.

As to my unwillingness, as you put it, to leave my "comfort zone” – you are absolutely right. After 8 meetings of the Security Council on the situation in Ukraine and Crimea (six of them in front of TV cameras) I feel very comfortable that the truth is beginning to come across.

If, though, you imply that I don’t want to answer tough questions, then you are mature enough to know that I spoke to the “full house” at the Washington National Cathedral in October, 1983, two weeks after the South Korean airliner was downed, and then testified at the US Congress in May of 1986 after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, not to mention hundreds of other media and “live” appearances. So I can explain to anyone what “leaving a comfort zone” means.

But I wouldn’t be writing to you if you did not also choose to personally attack my daughter – your younger colleague – a Russian TV journalist. I am very proud of her – not only is she a good journalist, but she strictly keeps her professional distance from me.

Incidentally, I recall you married the State Department Spokesman. How was your professional credibility in the course of your courtship?

Don’t bother to answer. I don’t really want to know.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 03:58:35 AM
Crimea only "voted" to secede because the Russian majority wanted to join Russia, and there is no provision in the Ukrainian constitution allowing such a vote. 

If 100 years from now an English speaking (by then) minority in the US was used by Canada to annex New England, it would not be legitimate, either.  Land grabs by more powerful nations of chunks of their neighbor's territory can't be tolerated.  Putin has isolated himself.

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Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: agenda21nwo on March 22, 2014, 04:11:28 AM
Sign me up!
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: mass243 on March 22, 2014, 04:14:31 AM

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Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 04:19:26 AM

Mr. Churkin is better looking (no homo)

haha... I agree
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: jon cole on March 22, 2014, 04:34:43 AM

Awesome?  No one likes a country that just decides to grab the land of a neighbor.  Even Putin's wary pal China would only go so far as to abstain rather than voting in the UN Security Council for his position.  This is a bad miscalculation.  Sticking a pencil in Obama's eye is one thing, but conjuring up forebodings of Hitler will make you everyone's enemy pronto.


epic lack of geo/political/history/strategy reported.

Are you a socialist ?
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Slapper on March 22, 2014, 05:15:00 AM
Crimea only "voted" to secede because the Russian majority wanted to join Russia, and there is no provision in the Ukrainian constitution allowing such a vote.

Crimea, the territory, did not vote, Crimeans did. And with a turnover in the 80% range and 96% of the Crimean population, regardless of ethnicity, voting to annex to the Russian federation you really legally cannot call it illegal.

Ukrainians weren't really complaining when they wanted to leave the USSR because the Soviet constitution in place did allow for independence referendums, then quickly moved to write up a constitution that negated its population from enjoying the very same right.

Sounds like karma to me.

By the way, this happens all the time around the world. It usually fails because the real reason behind these referendums are solely economic, and the democratic demand is usually made by a small elite minority who usually despises its own population too.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: King Shizzo on March 22, 2014, 05:19:58 AM
CRIMEARIVER! Oh brother.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 22, 2014, 05:20:24 AM
Little bitch Goonuclear getting owned by everyone in this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Mazda323 on March 22, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
I'm in orthodox brothers!!!
Title: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: WalterWhite on March 22, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
The start of a new cold war.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303802104579452751446729822?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories&mg=reno64-wsj

Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite
Banks, Ruble, Stocks Recoil; Putin Says No More Retaliation, but Other Kremlin Officials Talk Tough


 
MOSCOW—President Vladimir Putin formally made Crimea part of Russia on Friday, even as the Kremlin sent contradictory signals on its willingness to hold off on retaliating against the West for its latest sanctions over the annexation.

The actions came as the new punitive measures imposed by Washington, followed Friday by expanded European sanctions, began to have an impact across Russia and beyond.

Russian stocks were hit, electronic payments inside the country snarled and energy traders scrambled to assess whether they could still deal with a big Geneva-based trading firm.

Russian President Vladimir Putin prepares to sign documents on Friday that completed the process of absorbing Crimea into Russia, defying Western leaders who say the Black Sea peninsula remains part of Ukraine. Reuters
Still, there was little evidence of a public rush to boycott American or European goods and services.

Mr. Putin appeared relatively calm. He quipped that he would be opening an account at Bank Rossiya, the lone financial institution on the U.S. sanctions list issued Thursday.

He also recommended halting the escalation of tensions, a day after Russia issued a tit-for-tat travel ban on nine U.S. government officials in response to Washington's original blacklist from Monday.


"I think we need to refrain from taking any retaliatory countermeasures for now," Mr. Putin said. He also said Russia should remain in a North Atlantic Treaty Organization program to provide spare parts for Russian-built helicopters being used in Afghanistan.

Nevertheless, he later signed a decree formally making Crimea part of Russia and appointing a presidential envoy to the region, after Russia's upper house of parliament approved the annexation treaty.

His chief spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, also told the Interfax news agency that Russia plans to impose mirror-image sanctions on the U.S. That suggests Russia may target more U.S. officials and perhaps business figures or a bank.

A new round of U.S. sanctions against Russia over its plans to annex Crimea were laughed off by lawmakers in Russia as President Vladimir Putin saw his position strengthen in recent poll ratings reports WSJ's Greg White.
"We aren't looking for a confrontation, and we aren't the source of this sanctions exchange," Mr. Peskov said. "Each time we will respond with a mirror image, but we are still advocating a development of our cooperation and are interested in it."

Russia's foreign ministry later said it is planning a tough response to the U.S.'s latest moves.

Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said the sanctions have contributed to an "overall negative perception" of Russia's economy and may increase the country's borrowing costs.

 


Russia's main stock index, the MICEX, fell ahead of Crimea's March 16 vote to secede.

 
Russia's currency slumped at the beginning of its military intervention in Crimea, on March 3.

Bank Rossiya and SMP Bank—both controlled by confidantes of Mr. Putin who were sanctioned by the U.S.—said that Visa V +0.70%  and MasterCard MA -3.09%  had cut off their processing service Friday. Disruptions spread to other banks that function as subsidiaries or rely on them for to process Visa and MasterCard transactions.

Sanctions on Russia: Who's Who
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The latest sanctions on Russia target close friends and advisers to Putin, a bank, and more. See the full list.

U.S. banks that have relationships with Bank Rossiya, one of Russia's biggest, indicated they would abide by the U.S. sanctions. Those include Bank of New York Mellon Corp., J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. and a U.S. unit of Deutsche Bank AG.

Executives at the Geneva-based energy trader Gunvor Group, meanwhile, spent Friday reassuring customers and its bankers that U.S. sanctions against a co-founder wouldn't disrupt its trading operations. The U.S. Treasury said Mr. Putin was an investor in the firm, one of the world's largest independent, energy-trading outfits. The company said Mr. Putin isn't an investor.

Washington on Thursday also blacklisted Gennady Timchenko, who owned 43% of the firm. Hours later, Gunvor said Mr. Timchenko had already sold his share in the company to Gunvor's other co-founder, Chief Executive Torbjorn Tornqvist.

The sanctions came as a surprise, Mr. Tornqvist said in an interview, and triggered a crisis in the early hours of the morning. Executives reached out to traders, bankers and other counterparties during the day to reassure them, he said, and "now, we have U.S. banks saying it's business as usual."

There was less certainty on many trading floors. Gunvor conducts billions of dollars in energy contracts with other international traders and producers. A North Sea oil trader said early Friday that questions about Gunvor were "the elephant in the room." American and European companies will be looking very closely at their business with Gunvor, said another oil trader.

Some of the world's biggest, publicly traded energy companies deal with Gunvor regularly, and executives at some of them were studying the implications of the sanctions Friday, according to people familiar with the situation.

The U.S. Treasury extended its sanctions list on Thursday to members of Mr. Putin's inner circle and other high-ranking Russian officials as well as Bank Rossiya, which it said serves as a personal bank for elite Russian officials.

The European Union, whose financial and energy sectors depend on Russian business, refrained Friday from sanctioning businessmen in Mr. Putin's inner circle. The Europeans also face legal constraints that the U.S. doesn't.

The EU did add a dozen names to its sanctions list—10 Russians and two from Crimea, and ordered up plans for "targeted economic measures" if Russia continues to destabilize Ukraine.

The EU list included Dmitry Kiselyov, the Russian state news anchor who in a recent on-air appearance said Russia could turn the U.S. into "radioactive ash." He told Russia's RIA Novosti news agency, which he now oversees, that the inclusion of a journalist violates EU human rights norms and amounts to an "attack on freedom of speech."

The EU invited Ukraine's new government to its summit in Brussels, where they signed agreements designed to bring Ukraine's political system closer to Europe's.

Moscow, meanwhile, stepped up the pressure on the new Kiev government, which it considers to be illegitimate.

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said Russia would cancel the 2010 rental agreement for its Crimean naval base at Sevastopol—home of Russia's Black Sea Fleet—as well as the significant discounts for natural gas supplied to Ukraine as part of the deal.

He said Kiev now owes Russia as much as $16 billion, including bond payments and gas deliveries.


The crisis in Crimea has ushered in a new era of East-West relations that many experts believe has rolled back more than 20 years of efforts to integrate Russia into what has been described as the Euro-Atlantic community.

"It is a fundamental turning point in Russian foreign policy," said Fyodor Lukyanov, chairman of a Kremlin foreign affairs advisory council.

He said the relationship with the West is no longer valuable enough for Russia to see it as a reason to refrain from asserting its vital interests.

Russia hit back against the United States this week by imposing sanctions on some members of congress, and the affected senators could not be more thrilled.

He also predicted that the U.S. sanctions, if anything, would speed Russia's foreign policy turn toward the East, where the Kremlin increasingly been courting China.

"The relationship with the West isn't the top priority anymore," Mr. Lukyanov said.

In the past, the Kremlin hasn't always responded to punitive measures by the U.S. symmetrically.

In 2012, when the U.S. passed the Magnitsky Act—which barred Russian officials connected to the 2009 death of a Russian lawyer from traveling to the U.S. or using American banks—Russia created its own list of U.S. officials it accused of human rights violations and banned them from Russia.

Russia also barred imports of U.S. meat containing a growth hormone commonly used in the U.S., and ended the adoption of Russian children by American families. Both moves were widely seen as retaliation for the U.S. law.


Such responses have raised worries among Americans with all sorts of interests in Russia.

Boeing Inc., for example, gets much of the titanium for its planes from Russia and has manufacturing plants in the country. It also has contracts to sell around 100 planes—valued at billions of dollars—to Russian airlines.

General Electric Co. GE +0.51%  leases airplanes and sells medical equipment across Russia, where the government this week floated a ban on imported medical devices.

Both companies said they are monitoring the situation closely but declined to comment on possible impact to their business in Russia.

The chilly relations between Russia and the U.S. emanating from events in Ukraine could be about to complicate other foreign matters. WSJ's Jerry Seib says Iran, Syria and arms control all could be affected by the new tensions. Photo: Associated Press.

Russian troops guard a military base in Perevalnoye, near the Crimean capital of Simferopol. Russian President Vladimir Putin formally signed the papers Friday annexing the region, which had voted to secede from Ukraine. Reuters
Western executives have tried to reassure investors that they are managing their exposure to Russia. "We're trying to understand what kind of scenarios there could be," Peter Cedervall, president of rail-control solutions for Bombardier Inc., told analysts on a conference call Thursday.

The Canadian maker of planes and trains had targeted Russia for new investments in railroad systems in the wake of the Sochi Olympic Games.

Canada on Friday broadened its sanctions against Russia, adding 14 individuals and Bank Rossiya.

One additional risk for Westerners is the falling value of the Russian currency. That can hit the value of sales of goods paid for in rubles but converted back into a company's home currency. Mr. Cedervall said one option could be to "get paid offshore, not to see the currency, or the money passing Russian soil."

Other executives said there was uncertainty over what effect any fresh sanctions might have on exports and imports. Grain harvests just wrapped up in Russia and the Ukraine. "Now probably a lot of the noise is about being able to export in the Black Sea," said Greg Peterson, director of investor relations for agricultural equipment supplier AGCO Corp.

Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: manuelsonn on March 22, 2014, 11:02:27 AM
first bite of putin cock
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Wiggs on March 22, 2014, 11:17:59 AM
Fema camps for all political dissidents. You're all on Obamas kill list.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Bosch on March 22, 2014, 11:25:49 AM
I'm kinda tired that US plays policemen of the world, especially after the Iraq war.
There is so much talks, but the situation is as plain as a day - Russia grows, takes a "new" land for a military base and America tries to hinder it. Eternal struggle of superstates.

But Ukraine is native lands of Russia, they speak russian, they have the same mentality. Its only gorilka instead of vodka.
No wonder almost 100% of Crimea population voted to join Russia. Ukranian goverment sponsored by USA was a total disaster for a last 10 or 15 years, they had revolution after revolution and it never ends, people tired to live in United States firing ground. All current activities, all these sanctions do nothing good to people living in Ukraine. Now Russia will cut the gas supply and the Ukraine economy will go straight down to dead.
I bet if there would be such a poll, all of Ukraine will vote to join Russia without hesitation.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: smoothasf on March 22, 2014, 03:28:46 PM
How about they put that stinking great costly army of yours on AMERICAN streets and stop American scrime and deaths overnight instead of terrorizing other countries under the guise of being a saviour.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 22, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
Russia only produces/export gas & petrol only, not much else is made there.
Persian & Libyan petrol would replace Putins oil.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Shockwave on March 22, 2014, 03:45:22 PM
How about they put that stinking great costly army of yours on AMERICAN streets and stop American scrime and deaths overnight instead of terrorizing other countries under the guise of being a saviour.
Most likely because the US Military is not for use against it's own citizens. In fact, it's not allowed at all, except under the most dire of circumstances.

HTH.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: g.m on March 22, 2014, 07:15:08 PM
checking in ;D Putin is a god..Obama is a chimp
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Slapper on March 22, 2014, 07:16:20 PM
checking in ;D Putin is a god..Obama is a chimp

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Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Parker on March 22, 2014, 07:42:30 PM
I'm kinda tired that US plays policemen of the world, especially after the Iraq war.
There is so much talks, but the situation is as plain as a day - Russia grows, takes a "new" land for a military base and America tries to hinder it. Eternal struggle of superstates.

But Ukraine is native lands of Russia, they speak russian, they have the same mentality. Its only gorilka instead of vodka.
No wonder almost 100% of Crimea population voted to join Russia. Ukranian goverment sponsored by USA was a total disaster for a last 10 or 15 years, they had revolution after revolution and it never ends, people tired to live in United States firing ground. All current activities, all these sanctions do nothing good to people living in Ukraine. Now Russia will cut the gas supply and the Ukraine economy will go straight down to dead.
I bet if there would be such a poll, all of Ukraine will vote to join Russia without hesitation.
So basically, "play policeman ONLY we need you to."
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 22, 2014, 07:52:35 PM
This isn't going to end well for the usa.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 22, 2014, 07:54:13 PM
THE one on the right is a man in drag.

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Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: visualizeperfection on March 22, 2014, 07:56:12 PM
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Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Mr. MB on March 22, 2014, 08:02:39 PM
We can supply the EU with unlimited natural gas now that private industry has advanced fracking (despite Obama and his green pals). NG can be converted to LNG at our gulf ports and shipped to Europe. This will hit deep into the rubble reserves of Father Russia. We can play hardball without risking one life AND become energy independent within 5 more years. Saudi Arabia will need to switch over to exporting goat cheese.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Nomad on March 22, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
What does Putty Put know about the USA to act this way now?

USA troops are withdrawn from Iraq and drawing down in Afghanistan. There must be a good reason for him to make this decision.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 12:16:25 AM

epic lack of geo/political/history/strategy reported.

Are you a socialist ?

No, but Putin is.  A national socialist.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 12:28:47 AM
Crimea, the territory, did not vote, Crimeans did. And with a turnover in the 80% range and 96% of the Crimean population, regardless of ethnicity, voting to annex to the Russian federation you really legally cannot call it illegal.

Ukrainians weren't really complaining when they wanted to leave the USSR because the Soviet constitution in place did allow for independence referendums, then quickly moved to write up a constitution that negated its population from enjoying the very same right.

Sounds like karma to me.

By the way, this happens all the time around the world. It usually fails because the real reason behind these referendums are solely economic, and the democratic demand is usually made by a small elite minority who usually despises its own population too.

No, it does not happen "all the time around the world."  Other examples?

Poll numbers are irrelevant, but the figures you quote come from Putin.  So they can't be trusted.

The "Soviet constitution in place" (1977 version) also guarantees freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of assembly.  But everyone knows that none of these freedoms ever existed in the Soviet Union, which was run as a brutal dictatorship. 

It is against international law for a country to annex another's territory. 

Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 12:33:16 AM
Little bitch Goonuclear getting owned by everyone in this thread.  ;D

Aw, and you call yourself "Big Roger".  How cute.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: manuelsonn on March 23, 2014, 12:34:23 AM
No, it does not happen "all the time around the world."  Other examples?

Poll numbers are irrelevant, but the figures you quote come from Putin.  So they can't be trusted.

The "Soviet constitution in place" (1977 version) also guarantees freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of assembly.  But everyone knows that none of these freedoms ever existed in the Soviet Union, which was run as a brutal dictatorship. 

It is against international law for a country to annex another's territory. 


it is also against international law to steal a coubtry of its territory- but kosovo , falkland are ""special cases"" because us and their western pupies told u so. Crimea is more legit than iraq , afganistan , kosovo elections because nobody was killed. Deal with it
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 12:37:39 AM

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The Crimeans have every right to rejoin Russia.

No they don't.

Hey numbskull, they can "rejoin" Russia by moving there. 
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 01:01:21 AM
it is also against international law to steal a coubtry of its territory- but kosovo , falkland are ""special cases"" because us and their western pupies told u so. Crimea is more legit than iraq , afganistan , kosovo elections because nobody was killed. Deal with it

Falklands belongs to the UK, going back to the 17th century and Argentina invaded illegally in 1982.  And which Kosovo elections are you referring to? 

You have a point about Iraq and Afghanistan, but the best analogy to Putin's action is Hitler's Anschluss policy in Europe.  He annexed Austria in 1938.  No one died then, either.  There was even a referendum and 97% voted for Hitler.  After it became obvious that they had better do so via the presence of Nazi troops.  Very similar in every respect.  Which is why the Europeans, slow to react to anything, reacted to Putin very strongly and quickly.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 01:23:22 AM
Russia only produces/export gas & petrol only, not much else is made there.
Persian & Libyan petrol would replace Putins oil.

That's right.

But Putin thinks he only needs China and its allies' markets for his petrochemicals.  But China is a shaky partner, not much better than the US in terms of Russia paranoia.  He really needs the Europeans, and he has badly scared them by aping Hitler in the late thirties.  And for what? To annex a region he dominates anyway.

Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: manuelsonn on March 23, 2014, 01:27:46 AM
Falklands belongs to the UK, going back to the 17th century and Argentina invaded illegally in 1982.  And which Kosovo elections are you referring to? 

You have a point about Iraq and Afghanistan, but the best analogy to Putin's action is Hitler's Anschluss policy in Europe.  He annexed Austria in 1938.  No one died then, either.  There was even a referendum and 97% voted for Hitler.  After it became obvious that they had better do so via the presence of Nazi troops.  Very similar in every respect.  Which is why the Europeans, slow to react to anything, reacted to Putin very strongly and quickly.
no, kosovo its the precedent for crimmea (Kosovan independence referendum, 1991)- that referendum was recognized by western puppets and amurica afeter 8 yers-  you dont need to make the same mistake twice ,so , after fascism in ukraine overtrow a legitimate  governement and ban the use of foreign language it was a clear necesity to choose a right path for an autonomus region- by vote =democracy in full efect
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: manuelsonn on March 23, 2014, 01:30:34 AM
UE sees that the only americun interest here is to destroy UE and RUssia economy by supporting a ilegimitate regime in ukraine - thats the only yanks purpose, UE will have to continue partership with russia if doesnt want anoter  crisisis , and amuriana will have to go back to kill another suveran states in his pursuit of killing and theft
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 23, 2014, 01:31:42 AM
GONUCLEAR - zionist at heart, don't trust a word he utters.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 01:42:15 AM
no, kosovo its the precedent for crimmea (Kosovan independence referendum, 1991)- that referendum was recognized by western puppets and amurica afeter 8 yers-  you dont need to make the same mistake twice ,so , after fascism in ukraine overtrow a legitimate  governement and ban the use of foreign language it was a clear necesity to choose a right path for an autonomus region- by vote =democracy in full efect

The 1991 referendum was recognized only by Albania.  What brought in Europe and the US was ethnic cleansing.  Yes, Clinton should have included Russia in determining policy, given their ties to the Serbs.  But otherwise the situations are not similar.  Putin's Kremlin speech just makes the case for revenge, and "revenge" against the West is not exactly in the best interests of Russia.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 01:47:44 AM
UE sees that the only americun interest here is to destroy UE and RUssia economy by supporting a ilegimitate regime in ukraine - thats the only yanks purpose, UE will have to continue partership with russia if doesnt want anoter  crisisis , and amuriana will have to go back to kill another suveran states in his pursuit of killing and theft

No, the Europeans see their own interests and those interests do not include the Soviet Union getting rebuilt by a revival of Hitler's annexation policies.

I know Putin is very popular at home.  Let's see how popular he stays when the economy starts to suffer.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 23, 2014, 01:52:04 AM
and "revenge" against the West is not exactly in the best interests of Russia.

NOR is it in the best interests of the usa.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 01:55:09 AM
GONUCLEAR - zionist at heart, don't trust a word he utters.

I happen not to be a Zionist, but Israel is actually with Putin on this, just so you know. 

And the Zionists worldwide are delighted because it is a distraction from the Palestinian occupation.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Tapeworm on March 23, 2014, 02:24:16 AM
Hitler's annexation policies.


 ???

Didn't the people who live there vote overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia?
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 02:51:08 AM
???

Didn't the people who live there vote overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia?

If Bangor, Maine (which has a large French Canadian contingent) voted to join Canada, that would not give Canada the right to annex that city.

If you don't agree with that, then Putin is your guy.

By the way the people in Austria "voted overwhelmingly" to become part of Germany in 1938.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 23, 2014, 03:02:26 AM
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Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: manuelsonn on March 23, 2014, 03:55:16 AM
The americana should than russia forr reinstauring  democracy with vote, not with bombing of a suveran country,and start killing the crap of ukrainians fascist who overtrownd a legitimate president. Even moreif americnuts were consecvents in their foreign policy they should start also a bombing campaignagaist ukraine to recognise the legitimity of suverain crimeea,like they did with kosovo
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: manuelsonn on March 23, 2014, 03:56:32 AM
I happen not to be a Zionist, but Israel is actually with Putin on this, just so you know. 

And the Zionists worldwide are delighted because it is a distraction from the Palestinian occupation.
ok,whats your opinionon kosovo?
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: _bruce_ on March 23, 2014, 04:02:20 AM
Russia has the better cards.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Tapeworm on March 23, 2014, 04:11:12 AM
If Bangor, Maine (which has a large French Canadian contingent) voted to join Canada, that would not give Canada the right to annex that city.

If you don't agree with that, then Putin is your guy.

By the way the people in Austria "voted overwhelmingly" to become part of Germany in 1938.

If the people of the south voted overwhelmingly to remain the same nation they had always been and not adopt a distant capital's new laws which would bring certain ruin upon them, do they not have a right to self-determination?

If you don't think so then Lincoln is your guy!

Btw, the people of the colonies 'voted overwhelmingly' to tell King George to go peel a spud.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: anabolichalo on March 23, 2014, 05:14:41 AM
shit you americanos better do something
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 06:27:42 AM
Falklands belongs to the UK, going back to the 17th century and Argentina invaded illegally in 1982.  And which Kosovo elections are you referring to?  



Mr. GayNuclear,

Please study some history. Crimea has belonged to Russia since Catherine the Great of Russia conquered it back in 1783.




Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: SuperTed on March 23, 2014, 06:47:45 AM
Putin with Alexey. Two great Russians. 8)

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Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 23, 2014, 07:00:36 AM
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Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 23, 2014, 07:02:26 AM
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Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 23, 2014, 07:07:42 AM
If Bangor, Maine (which has a large French Canadian contingent) voted to join Canada, that would not give Canada the right to annex that city.

If you don't agree with that, then Putin is your guy.

By the way the people in Austria "voted overwhelmingly" to become part of Germany in 1938.

The difference is the cultural ties between the Crimea and Russia is deeper and goes back much further.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Parker on March 23, 2014, 07:31:29 AM
Russia has the better cards.
It's all in how you play your hand...
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 23, 2014, 07:36:40 AM
Just been watching BBC politics show which featured John McCain and ambassador Vladimir Chizhov.

Vladimir is told that McCain is concerned that other former Soviet countries could be targeted next such as the Baltic states.
The ambassador is funny, joking that McCain should be more worried about Russia deciding to take back Alaska  :D

These Russians just don't give a fuck about threats from the pussified USA these days.





Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Pray_4_War on March 23, 2014, 08:51:35 AM
Just because I think Obama is a tool doesn't mean I'm gonna cozy up to this Dickface. 

Fuck Obama

Fuck Putin
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 08:56:07 AM
Just been watching BBC politics show which featured John McCain and ambassador Vladimir Chizhov.

Vladimir is told that McCain is concerned that other former Soviet countries could be targeted next such as the Baltic states.
The ambassador is funny, joking that McCain should be more worried about Russia deciding to take back Alaska  :D

These Russians just don't give a fuck about threats from the pussified USA these days.





Haha, great sense of humor that guy has ;D
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Giovanni1443 on March 23, 2014, 09:18:18 AM
The US Empire is nearing its end and they know it !  :'(
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: WalterWhite on March 23, 2014, 09:43:36 AM
A cold war only hurts Russia because the US already spends more on defense than the rest of the word combined thanks to the first cold war. These sanctions will not just ban travel to the U.S. or freeze assets (most of which these guys keep in Europe and in various tax shelters around the world), but will effectively bar them from participation in the world financial system. That is going to sting and it's going to hurt, and it's going to hurt in the exact right places. The rhetoric is still flowing but the US can bring a fragile Russian economy to it's knees. US companies with heavy exposure to Russia will not be unscathed, however, Russia has far more to lose in a financial battle.

People have short memories and have forgotten about the fall off the Soviet Union.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Slapper on March 23, 2014, 09:46:36 AM
No, it does not happen "all the time around the world."  Other examples?

Sure it does. Do a google search and inform yourself.

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Poll numbers are irrelevant, but the figures you quote come from Putin.  So they can't be trusted.


I trust them.

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The "Soviet constitution in place" (1977 version) also guarantees freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of assembly.  But everyone knows that none of these freedoms ever existed in the Soviet Union, which was run as a brutal dictatorship.


Not in the case of self determination: the Soviets did very little to stop the Ukrainian parliament (which at the time was still part of the Soviet government mind you) based on the right of self determination. Like I said, that very right was then abruptly ceased once the new constitution was drafted. This obvious criminal act was what precipitated what is happening today.

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It is against international law for a country to annex another's territory.


Since when do we give a shit about international law?

We dropped two atomic bombs on two civilian targets, invaded many countries under false pretenses, took part in multiple secret coup d'etat, et cetera.

I always find it extremely retarded when we have a meltdown when others do it.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
Russia has plenty of countermeasures it can take if things keep escalating.
They have already recently started negotiating with Iran for oil-for-goods deal that would undermine US sanctions on Iran.

Iran and Russia are negotiating an oil-for-goods swap worth $1.5 billion a month that would enable Iran to lift oil exports substantially, undermining Western sanctions that helped persuade Tehran in November to agree to a preliminary deal to curb its nuclear program.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/10/us-iran-russia-oil-idUSBREA090DK20140110


I don't support doing business with countries like Iran but given the current anti-Russia stance of US government, who can really blame them?
After all US regime wants to choke Russian people to death and it's the job of Putin to stop this by all means.

After the aforementioned deal, next would be providing Iran the sophisticated weapons they have requested from Russia but Russia as an act of good will towards Americans decided not to deliver:

"Russia has frozen the sale of S-300 air defense missiles to Iran, Russian news agencies reported Friday, in a victory for the Obama administration in the wake of new U.N. sanctions imposed on Iran."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/11/AR2010061105248.html
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: syntaxmachine on March 23, 2014, 10:14:46 AM
People have short memories and have forgotten about the fall off the Soviet Union.

They also don't understand the power yielded by the American Empire by virtue of its dominance of the international financial system, hence comments in this thread evincing belief that a third-rate petrostate is a genuine rival to US power.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 23, 2014, 10:20:41 AM
(http://www.comics101.com/guestlecturer//news/Guest%20Lecturer/47/11dredd.jpg)

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Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 23, 2014, 10:29:25 AM
A cold war only hurts Russia because the US already spends more on defense than the rest of the word combined thanks to the first cold war. These sanctions will not just ban travel to the U.S. or freeze assets (most of which these guys keep in Europe and in various tax shelters around the world), but will effectively bar them from participation in the world financial system. That is going to sting and it's going to hurt, and it's going to hurt in the exact right places. The rhetoric is still flowing but the US can bring a fragile Russian economy to it's knees. US companies with heavy exposure to Russia will not be unscathed, however, Russia has far more to lose in a financial battle.

People have short memories and have forgotten about the fall off the Soviet Union.


Russia has been quietly strengthening its relationship with Iran and China for a while. 
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: WalterWhite on March 23, 2014, 10:40:02 AM

Russia has been quietly strengthening its relationship with Iran and China for a while.  

China won't risk it's economic expansion on Putin's desire to retract 20 years of progress for Russia. They have been very guarded in their response to this issues with good reason.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 10:52:19 AM
China won't risk it's economic expansion on Putin's desire to retract 20 years of progress for Russia. They have been very guarded in their response to this issues with good reason.

Truth.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 11:06:40 AM
ok,whats your opinionon kosovo?

I think the USA should have involved Russia in the whole Kosovo issue.  They were snubbed, it's true.  Also, the USA still has many powerful people who still have a Cold War mentality which was based on the false premise that the Soviet Union was out to convert the entire world to communism (Kruschev did say "We will bury you", but that was in 1959 and pretty mild compared to some things the West has said about Russia).

So I think you bring up a good point on Kosovo.  However, as a world leader and statesman, President Putin could have taken the high road.  He still can.   Everyone is now worried about escalation and a war between Russia and Ukraine.
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Gonuclear on March 23, 2014, 11:21:46 AM
Exactly, it should have been allowed. Instead Lincoln and the northern federal gov decided it would be better to destroy as much as necessary and kill as many people as it took to maintain control over them.

Yet today he is universally praised as a 'great man' and synonymous with 'freedom'. Oh the irony ::)


President Lincoln was a great man.  Re-fighting the Civil War? 

None of this has anything to do with Putin's annexation of Crimea.  That's more like what Hitler did in Europe when he grabbed Austria in 1938, after a similar one-choice vote.

Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: manuelsonn on March 23, 2014, 11:42:54 AM

President Lincoln was a great man.  Re-fighting the Civil War? 

None of this has anything to do with Putin's annexation of Crimea.  That's more like what Hitler did in Europe when he grabbed Austria in 1938, after a similar one-choice vote.


No, crimeea was a legit secesion (0 kills, majority decision), while kosovo was theft and murder
Title: Re: Russia / Ukraine / Crimea Vote Resultes......
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 23, 2014, 01:23:31 PM
Lol yes. The Cult of Lincoln is one of history's great propoganda jobs. The Left has turned him into this great benevolent leader who loved black people and invaded the evil racist south just to free them. Hahahhaha

x2
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 23, 2014, 01:24:38 PM
Aw, and you call yourself "Big Roger".  How cute.

It's Mr. Big Roger F. Neegars to you... I was given that nickname by Marty Champions you cum slut.

Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 23, 2014, 01:32:23 PM
They also don't understand the power yielded by the American Empire by virtue of its dominance of the international financial system, hence comments in this thread evincing belief that a third-rate petrostate is a genuine rival to US power.

Similar to the economic choke hold the Northern States put on the Southern States who had every right to secede? It's so very honorable to starve anyone who doesn't obey. Especially when it's everyday people who just want to control their own destiny.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Parker on March 23, 2014, 01:35:26 PM
Similar to the economic choke hold the Northern States put on the Southern States who had every right to secede? It's so very honorable to starve anyone who doesn't obey.


My House, my rules...you don't do as I say, you aren't eating.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 23, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
My House, my rules...you don't do as I say, you aren't eating.

Yep, and this is the Globalist Household... America is an abusive overbearing father, and the EU is a feminine slut of a mother.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 01:46:26 PM
Put the pipe down ;D

Putin knows exactly what he is doing. I have had my doubts and they have all turned to be premature.
Like in Syria; I personally was sure Putin had sold poor fukers for some heco deal with amuricans. There were people on this very forum already celebrating the coming bloodbath. Turned out that Putin once again had an ace in his sleeve and  behind the curtains was running the show. Since then, I have had no doubts he is in charge.

Putin's approval ratings soar in Russia over Crimea annexation

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/03/20/21-Mar-14-World-View-Putin-s-approval-ratings-soar-in-Russia-over-Crimea-annexation


You can't bet against Putin and win.
(http://i.imgur.com/aWVLXEk.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: James28 on March 23, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
Team Putin here too.

The guy is fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: anabolichalo on March 23, 2014, 02:15:38 PM
mass243, would you suck putin's cock if he offered?
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: James28 on March 23, 2014, 02:23:41 PM
Yep, and this is the Globalist Household... America is an abusive overbearing father, and the EU is a feminine slut of a mother.

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Shockwave on March 23, 2014, 02:35:37 PM
Ive heard from more than one person with relatives living in Crimea (one getbigger and a couole coworkers), that the russian mikitary basicallt forced crimeans to vote to join russia, and literally no option existed to stay part of the Ukraine. . Basically were told 'if yoi dont vote to become russian again, you wont live/have homes to return too.

And their 2 voting  options were 'join russia', or 'leave Ukraine'.

so before yall go talking about how democratic this was, you may want to actually talk to some Crimeans....

Putin had some pics snapped of smiling Russians he bussed in to vote as well, and BAM, hes a hero.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 02:49:38 PM
mass243, would you suck putin's cock if he offered?

I don't like cock.
I would prefer one of his daughters.


Btw, I hope all the fanboys are aware of these documents:

The government will not curb trade with Russia or close London's financial centre to Russians as part of any possible package of sanctions against Moscow, according to an official document.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26426969
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on March 23, 2014, 03:03:05 PM
Ukraine sucks dick, people of Crimea voted for Russia, soldiers of ukraine joining russian army.

Fuck USA and EU politics.

Putin is doing what he has to do.

 ;)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: agenda21nwo on March 23, 2014, 03:13:17 PM
Ive heard from more than one person with relatives living in Crimea (one getbigger and a couole coworkers), that the russian mikitary basicallt forced crimeans to vote to join russia, and literally no option existed to stay part of the Ukraine. . Basically were told 'if yoi dont vote to become russian again, you wont live/have homes to return too.

And their 2 voting  options were 'join russia', or 'leave Ukraine'.

so before yall go talking about how democratic this was, you may want to actually talk to some Crimeans....

Putin had some pics snapped of smiling Russians he bussed in to vote as well, and BAM, hes a hero.

HMM, Ukraine Navy had approval to fight, and to the chagrine of their 'Defence Minister" chose to co-operate with the Russian forces.  What does this tell us?  THEY DON"T WANT TO BE PART OF UKRAINE
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 23, 2014, 03:16:20 PM
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 03:19:35 PM
Little humor so feelings don't get too heated  ;D




"everything is opposite in Russia so technically Crimea invaded us" LOL, that was funny

Obama: "you force people to accept something the majority don't even want.."
Putin: "yes, in russia we have a word for it. Obamacare"  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Shockwave on March 23, 2014, 03:21:56 PM
HMM, Ukraine Navy had approval to fight, and to the chagrine of their 'Defence Minister" chose to co-operate with the Russian forces.  What does this tell us?  THEY DON"T WANT TO BE PART OF UKRAINE
would you want to fight Russia? Not to mention the economic consequencs....

This isnt about the neat little Russia vs US thing getbig has turned this into, and in no way was my oost meant to support rhe US.... but you of all people,  believing the image spoon fed to you by Russia just because it counters the US viewpoint, is sad. Its seeming to me after talking to several RUSSIANS with family living in Crimea that the Crimean population was bullied and forced to join Russia, and all everyone can do is suck Putins cock because he out maneuvered Obama.

What the hell.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 23, 2014, 03:51:43 PM
Ukraine sucks dick, people of Crimea voted for Russia, soldiers of ukraine joining russian army.

Fuck USA and EU politics.

Putin is doing what he has to do.

 ;)

-Putin & his mob a still in shock from disentegration of Soviet Union  >:(
-Vladimir is mostly supported by old Soviets
-Russian army, technologically old & not at Nato level
-Navy, outdated too & those famed 'Nuke' subs  ;D
-Remember Soviets military in Afghanistan  :D
-If Ukraine invites Nato & positions them near Eastern borders, Russia is screwed
-Without 5km long bridge Crimea is fucked, Russians could not build mega bridge of that size  :P in the next 5 years
-Crimea is still dependent on Ukrainian electricity & water supply
-Crimea is not Russian tourists destination any more, so no coins  :P
-Well of Russians, travel to Mediterranean for vocations
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: sagittal chest on March 23, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
-Putin & his mob a still in shock from disentegration of Soviet Union  >:(
-Vladimir is mostly supported by old Soviets
-Russian army, technologically old & not at Nato level
-Navy, outdated too & those famed 'Nuke' subs  ;D
-Remember Soviets military in Afghanistan  :D
-If Ukraine invites Nato & positions them near Eastern borders, Russia is screwed
-Without 5km long bridge Crimea is fucked, Russians could not build mega bridge of that size  :P in the next 5 years
-Crimea still dependent on Ukrainian electricity & water supply
-Crimea is not Russian tourists destination any more, so no coins  :P
-Well of Russians, travel to Mediterranean for vocations

Haha exactly.

I like Putin as an individual.

However Russia is the underdog and for all their chest pounding they are second rate in every aspect.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Shockwave on March 23, 2014, 03:58:47 PM
Haha exactly.

I like Putin as an individual.

However Russia is the underdog and for all their chest pounding they are second rate in every aspect.
they have zero chance to engage the US in a stand up fight.

zero.

they have no way of logistically sustaining a fight. ... unlike the US, who is the only country in the world that has a developed amphibious doctrine specificallty designed to wage war on foreign soil.... people dont understand that Russia and China have zero chance st moving their troops and equipment around the globe effectively, let alone against the US.

China doesnt even have a modern carrier for fucks sake, and Russias carriers are jokes. Without modern carrier battlegroups to defend their naval vessels, ground units and supply chain, they have zero chance in a fight.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: sagittal chest on March 23, 2014, 04:00:41 PM
they have zero chance to engage the US in a stand up fight.

zero.

they have no way of logistically sustaining a fight. ... unlike the US, who is the only country in the world that has a developed amphibious doctrine specificallty designed to wage war on foreign soil.... people dont understand that Russia and China have zero chance st moving their troops and equipment around the globe effectively, let alone against the US.

China doesnt even have a modern carrier for fucks sake, and Russias carriers are jokes. Without modern carrier battlegroups to defend their naval vessels, ground units and supply chain, they have zero chance in a fight.

I agree.

Russia is a bunch of shit.


Than can however cause all sorts of problems for us via dirty means.
Remember what they did to that fellow in London.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 04:06:57 PM

-Remember Soviets military in Afghanistan  :D


All the other BS aside, this one popped up as the most epic coming from amurican mouth  ;D ;D

Back when USSR was in Afghanistan, the afghans were at least supported by americans, pakis, uk and who not. These days no one supports them but they have handed your ass to you for a well over decade now  :D
Just the men in caves, their donkeys and old ak's.

Not even mentioning all your other epic failures like Cuba, Vietnam, Irak...
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Shockwave on March 23, 2014, 04:08:10 PM
All the other BS aside, this one popped up as the most epic coming from amurican mouth  ;D ;D

ack when USSR was in Afghanistan, the afghans were at least supported by americans, pakis, uk and who not. These days no one supports them but they have handed your ass to you for a well over decade now  :D
Just the men in caves, their donkeys and old ak's.

Not of course to mention all your other epic failures like Cuba, Vietnam, Irak...

Teutonic knight isnt Murrican brah, hes Australian.
Title: Re: Sanctions on Russia Take First Bite.
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 23, 2014, 04:11:11 PM
Yep, and this is the Globalist Household... America is an abusive overbearing father, and the EU is a feminine slut of a mother.
brilliant
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 04:12:33 PM
Teutonic knight isnt Murrican brah, hes Australian.

Doesn't make it much better does it  ;D
I don't recall Australia winning even a battle. Despite of course the murdering of aborginals. But even that was under British crown, iirc.

Last I heard they were twisting arms with fukin' Indonesia LOL
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Slapper on March 23, 2014, 04:27:09 PM
It's funny because the US is a country that was built on land annexations, acquisitions and treaties, some of them at gunpoint. Yet, we can't wrap our heads around somebody else doing the same at an insanely smaller scale.

People need to get laid and put away the remote control.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 23, 2014, 04:33:31 PM

Little ot: I said in the original thread weeks ago that it gets serious just when Russia sends in the "special battalions".

Guess what! The Chechens are in da house:
(http://i.imgur.com/3RpLajP.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 23, 2014, 05:29:05 PM
Doesn't make it much better does it  ;D
I don't recall Australia winning even a battle. Despite of course the murdering of aborginals. But even that was under British crown, iirc.

Last I heard they were twisting arms with fukin' Indonesia LOL

Here we go, towarish mass243 today is 2013 not Stalingrad 1945 !.
Go into historical search, then bla-bla.
Who in a fuck officially kill or relocated more people than Stalin (Russian Soviets) & U want to talk about Aussie Abos  ::)
Tell me towarish, what U gonna do with 700 000 (+ or -) Muslim Tatars in Crimea ?.
Life after Putin in 'mother' Russia  :-\


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Nomad on March 23, 2014, 05:38:16 PM
-Putin & his mob a still in shock from disentegration of Soviet Union  >:(
-Vladimir is mostly supported by old Soviets
-Russian army, technologically old & not at Nato level
-Navy, outdated too & those famed 'Nuke' subs  ;D
-Remember Soviets military in Afghanistan  :D
-If Ukraine invites Nato & positions them near Eastern borders, Russia is screwed
-Without 5km long bridge Crimea is fucked, Russians could not build mega bridge of that size  :P in the next 5 years
-Crimea still dependent on Ukrainian electricity & water supply
-Crimea is not Russian tourists destination any more, so no coins  :P
-Well of Russians, travel to Mediterranean for vocations

Putin or someone did not think this through.
Title: Re: Team Putin
Post by: Lustral on March 23, 2014, 05:41:36 PM

Awesome?  No one likes a country that just decides to grab the land of a neighbor.  Even Putin's wary pal China would only go so far as to abstain rather than voting in the UN Security Council for his position.  This is a bad miscalculation.  Sticking a pencil in Obama's eye is one thing, but conjuring up forebodings of Hitler will make you everyone's enemy pronto.

I was on your side til I heard how West Germany merged with East Germany against everyone's wishes. It is a bit imperialist but to be fair Kruschev gave Crimea away when he was drunk.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Slapper on March 23, 2014, 06:07:28 PM
Here we go, towarish mass243 today is 2013 not Stalingrad 1945 !.
Go into historical search, then bla-bla.
Who in a fuck officially kill or relocated more people than Stalin (Russian Soviets) & U want to talk about Aussie Abos  ::)
Tell me towarish, what U gonna do with 700 000 (+ or -) Muslim Tatars in Crimea ?.
Life after Putin in 'mother' Russia  :-\

That's his fucking business, not ours.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 23, 2014, 07:25:08 PM
Russia Returns Favor, Sees Chinese Yuan As World Reserve Currency
03/23/2014 18:32 -0400

Following China's unwillingness to vote against Russia at the UN and yesterday's news that China will sue Ukraine for $3bn loan repayment, it seems Russia is returning the favor. Speaking at the Chinese Economic Development Forum, ITAR-TASS reports, the Chief Economist of Russia's largest bank stated that "China's Yuan may become the third reserve currency in the in the future."

 

Managing Director and Chief Economist of investment company Sberbank Yevgeny Gavrilenkov said at the 15th governmental Chinese economic development forum in the Chinese capital on Sunday (via ITAR-TASS):

    "China’s yuan (renminbi) may become a third reserve currency in the world in the future"

     

    "This forecast can be made on figures of domestic economic growth. Probably the country will keep high GDP growth rate and the GDP volume will increase to around 14-16 trillion U.S. dollars for a brief period of time, the indicators comparable to the European Union and the United States.

     

    Meanwhile, Chinese securities are more attractive for the countries that have a surplus in economy, particularly the Middle East states; and China will obviously follow the path of securing the country’s assets,"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-23/russia-returns-favor-sees-chinese-yuan-world-reserve-currency
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 23, 2014, 07:28:37 PM
Putin inspires terror in New World Order: Dr. Barrett

Russian President Vladimir Putin is standing up against West’s aggression aimed at completely destroying traditional nations and values and creating a New World Order global dictatorship, an analyst says.

Ongoing Western attempts to destabilize Ukraine, Syria and Iran as well as other countries are the “most recent examples of a decade-old pattern of aggression” which the Russian president is countering, Kevin Barrett, a professor of Islamic and Middle Eastern Studies, wrote in an article for Press TV website.

    “In short, the New World Order – a shadowy group of global banking oligarchs bent on establishing a one-world dictatorship – is trying to overthrow every leader on earth who resists. Russian President Putin is resisting. That is why the Western propaganda machine is calling him names,” Barrett said.

He noted that Russia and Iran are both successfully resisting a New World Order dictatorship.

The commentator noted that the establishment of the Islamic Republic of Iran was a landmark event signaling an end to the “20th-century wave of militant secularism and atheism – and a revival of traditional religion.”

Read more: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/23/355791/putin-resists-dictatorial-world-order/
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Nails on March 23, 2014, 07:32:16 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K-Qz7So_BQA/UjSrYxU_jpI/AAAAAAAADZ8/v3r9gffiy2k/s640/Vladamir+Putin+Russian+President+Having+Hand+Wrestling+with+Americans+3.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: manuelsonn on March 23, 2014, 11:12:03 PM
they have zero chance to engage the US in a stand up fight.

zero.

they have no way of logistically sustaining a fight. ... unlike the US, who is the only country in the world that has a developed amphibious doctrine specificallty designed to wage war on foreign soil.... people dont understand that Russia and China have zero chance st moving their troops and equipment around the globe effectively, let alone against the US.

China doesnt even have a modern carrier for fucks sake, and Russias carriers are jokes. Without modern carrier battlegroups to defend their naval vessels, ground units and supply chain, they have zero chance in a fight.
if nato wins on ground- all world loses- a losing russia will nuke the fuck of amuricana and amuricana will nuke back.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 24, 2014, 01:09:09 AM
if nato wins on ground- all world loses- a losing russia will nuke the fuck of amuricana and amuricana will nuke back.

None of those suppose to be Intercontinental Russian rockets would go too far,  ;)

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 24, 2014, 04:51:49 AM
Little ot: I said in the original thread weeks ago that it gets serious just when Russia sends in the "special battalions".

Guess what! The Chechens are in da house:
(http://i.imgur.com/3RpLajP.jpg)

(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Vladmir-Putin-Dance-Gif-In-a-Snappy-Suit.gif)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: manuelsonn on March 24, 2014, 05:04:06 AM
None of those suppose to be Intercontinental Russian rockets would go too far,  ;)


hmm, i think will see that, no?
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 24, 2014, 08:36:28 AM
Here we go, towarish mass243 today is 2013 not Stalingrad 1945 !.
Go into historical search, then bla-bla.
Who in a fuck officially kill or relocated more people than Stalin (Russian Soviets) & U want to talk about Aussie Abos  ::)
Tell me towarish, what U gonna do with 700 000 (+ or -) Muslim Tatars in Crimea ?.
Life after Putin in 'mother' Russia  :-\


In case you didn't know, there is a republic in Russian federation called... tadaa, Tatarstan.

And it's quite wealthy at that. Honestly, it's a place which has seen actual industrial growth (Kamaz trucks, Kazan helicopters, aviation plants etc). 53% of population in the republic are Tatars. President of the republic is moslim too. He has even tried to convince the Crimean tatars that nothing bad is gonna happen to them.
Capital of Tatarstan, Kazan is known as the "sports capital" of Russia with plenty of foreigners playing ice hockey, football etc. there.

It's not like ethnic minorities are sent in Siberia these days. If they want, they can become relatively prosperous as Tatars prove.

(http://i.imgur.com/jMJ5sZE.jpg)

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Anabol on March 24, 2014, 10:34:30 AM
(http://fishki.net/upload/users/446451/201403/24/tn/37f47afab3867ec7c9cb27498c6abb5c.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: WalterWhite on March 24, 2014, 10:56:35 AM
All the other BS aside, this one popped up as the most epic coming from amurican mouth  ;D ;D

Back when USSR was in Afghanistan, the afghans were at least supported by americans, pakis, uk and who not. These days no one supports them but they have handed your ass to you for a well over decade now  :D
Just the men in caves, their donkeys and old ak's.

Not even mentioning all your other epic failures like Cuba, Vietnam, Irak...


And how many troops does the US have there and have they used any nukes that would end that conflict quickly?  US demolished Iraq head to head and also left 1 mil dead in Vietnam (and essentially demolished the country). 500k more troops were needed to win the war in Vietnam and the politicians and public had no more stomach for it. Also the Afgans are receiving plenty of munitions from Russia and 20k US or NATO troops are not going to accomplish anything but protecting poppy fields.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 24, 2014, 11:06:35 AM
Putin on the Ritz
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Vladmir-Putin-Dance-Gif-In-a-Snappy-Suit.gif)

Fats Putin performing
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Shockwave on March 24, 2014, 11:30:26 AM
And how many troops does the US have there and have they used any nukes that would end that conflict quickly?  US demolished Iraq head to head and also left 1 mil dead in Vietnam (and essentially demolished the country). 500k more troops were needed to win the war in Vietnam and the politicians and public had no more stomach for it. Also the Afgans are receiving plenty of munitions from Russia and 20k US or NATO troops are not going to accomplish anything but protecting poppy fields.
no point bro. All they understand is that the media says 'loss', so its a loss, even though the march through iraq set all minds of military records for smashing another military.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 24, 2014, 11:35:32 AM
Say what you want but it's pretty hard to not love these guys  ;D

One of the Ukrainian Maidan "protest" leaders has been taped receiving some boot to face from whores!! Tells you what kind of people Ukrainian new leaders are  :D
Video was aired on Russian news channel so I assume it's the job of FSB again  8)



(wouldn't mind some of that treatment myself... no psycho)


For those who have missed (and think Russia should be afraid of US military), Few months ago Russians got one American general sacked:

An official investigation reveals the general in charge of nuclear missiles turned an official visit into a boozed-up debacle that included boorish behavior, dancing with foreign women and awkward toasts.

Carey danced with one of the women at a restaurant called La Cantina, which one witness noted was an odd dining selection by the general given that they were in Moscow. Carey caroused with the unidentified pair despite his admitted realization both were “somewhat suspect,” the report said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/air-force-general-michael-carey-fired-epic-drunken-bender-moscow-article-1.1554042
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 24, 2014, 12:08:43 PM
ROFL...

Time to grab guns and kill damn Russians – Tymoshenko in leaked tape

Published time: March 24, 2014 16:06
Edited time: March 24, 2014 18:40
Get short URL

Ukrainians must take up arms against Russians so that not even scorched earth will be left where Russia stands; an example of former Ukrainian PM Yulia Tymoshenko’s vitriol in phone call leaked online.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=523716.0;attach=559122;image)

 Tymoshenko confirmed the authenticity of the conversation on Twitter, while pointing out that a section where she is heard to call for the nuclear slaughter of the eight million Russians who remain on Ukrainian territory was edited.

She tweeted “The conversation took place, but the '8 million Russians in Ukraine' piece is an edit. In fact, I said Russians in Ukraine – are Ukrainians. Hello FSB :) Sorry for the obscene language.”

The former Ukrainian PM has not clarified who exactly she wants to nuke.

 Shufrych's press service flatly contradicted Tymoshenko, slamming the tape as fake. The press release reads "The conversation didn't take place," as quoted by korrespondent.net.The phone conversation with Nestor Shufrych, former deputy secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, was uploaded on YouTube on Monday by user Sergiy Vechirko.

The leaked phone call took placed on March 18, hours after the Crimea & Sevastopol accession treaty was signed in the Kremlin.

While Shufrych was “just shocked,” Tymoshenko was enraged by the results of the Crimean referendum .

“This is really beyond all boundaries. It’s about time we grab our guns and kill go kill those damn Russians together with their leader,” Tymoshenko said.

The ex-pm declared if she was in charge “there would be no f***ing way that they would get Crimea then.”

Shufrych made the valid point that Ukraine “didn’t have any force potential” to keep Crimea.

But Tymoshenko, who plans to run in Ukraine’s presidential election, expressed confidence that she would have found "a way to kill those a*****es.”

Read more: http://rt.com/news/tymoshenko-calls-destroy-russia-917/
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 24, 2014, 12:12:57 PM
^^ Holy moly KGB FSB is on fire today  ;D

Leaked phone call of ex-convict, former PM (also former hottie) of Ukraine, Yulia Tymoshenko.
She suggests kind of "final solution" to Russia supporters living in Ukraine. Calling to nuke them (guess she doesn't know how nukes work LOL).

Is there still someone saying Russia didn't have a right to step in?




She has admitted the phone call is genuine but denies suggesting killing Russians (claims that part is FSB manipulation of tape)... who knows but sounds like sorry ass explaining to me...
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 24, 2014, 12:16:19 PM
^^ Holy moly KGB FSB is on fire today  ;D



I hope they keep outing this lunatics.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 24, 2014, 12:28:30 PM
I hope they keep outing this lunatics.

They will. That's one organization in Russia who know what they are doing. And with generous resources.

Still only country in the world who can put on resistance against USA:


U.S. military satellites spied Russian troops amassing within striking distance of Crimea last month. But intelligence analysts were surprised because they hadn't intercepted any telltale communications where Russian leaders, military commanders or soldiers discussed plans to invade.

In Crimea, though, U.S. intelligence officials are concluding that Russian planners might have gotten a jump on the West by evading U.S. eavesdropping.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/..._MIDDLETopNews
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 24, 2014, 12:33:24 PM
This comment sums it up, in regards to miscarried and aborted babies being incinerated with other garbage to heat hospitals in the UK:



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carefulwhatyouwishfor • 4 hours ago

Look at Matt's headline...........throw s the "headline" about Putin into perspective doesn't it.

This man is fighting for his original country back, before it was broken up...........fighting for a higher birthrate.........and against adoptions by foreigners.......paying couples to have children.........NOT ABORT THEM........

.......and now this headline PUTS IT ALL INTO PERSPECTIVE DOESN'T IT.

Vlad should offer all of those under England's barbaric NHS, to emigrate to his country................. at least life is held sacred there.......

I fully expect to hear from the Catholic POPE on this one...........!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10717566/Aborted-babies-incinerated-to-heat-UK-hospitals.html
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Nails on March 24, 2014, 12:37:31 PM
what other countries are left to take back from the fall of the USSR  ??? 
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: manuelsonn on March 24, 2014, 12:41:41 PM
what other countries are left to take back from the fall of the USSR  ??? 
alaksa (leave the big men discussions to adults and go back to men in tongs)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 24, 2014, 12:43:05 PM
alaksa (leave the big men discussions to adults and go back to men in tongs)

Yes, Alaksa
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Nails on March 24, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
alaksa (leave the big men discussions to adults and go back to men in tongs)

 ;D



(http://mapcollection.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/rsz_ussrnations.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 24, 2014, 12:45:39 PM
This comment sums it up, in regards to miscarried and aborted babies being incinerated with other garbage to heat hospitals in the UK:



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Avatar
carefulwhatyouwishfor • 4 hours ago

Look at Matt's headline...........throw s the "headline" about Putin into perspective doesn't it.

This man is fighting for his original country back, before it was broken up...........fighting for a higher birthrate.........and against adoptions by foreigners.......paying couples to have children.........NOT ABORT THEM........

.......and now this headline PUTS IT ALL INTO PERSPECTIVE DOESN'T IT.

Vlad should offer all of those under England's barbaric NHS, to emigrate to his country................. at least life is held sacred there.......

I fully expect to hear from the Catholic POPE on this one...........!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10717566/Aborted-babies-incinerated-to-heat-UK-hospitals.html


Putin can see what low birthrates and mass immigration are doing to the United States and Europe.   He is doing everything he can to avoid the same fate happening to Russia.  
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 24, 2014, 01:51:34 PM
They will. That's one organization in Russia who know what they are doing. And with generous resources.

Still only country in the world who can put on resistance against USA:


U.S. military satellites spied Russian troops amassing within striking distance of Crimea last month. But intelligence analysts were surprised because they hadn't intercepted any telltale communications where Russian leaders, military commanders or soldiers discussed plans to invade.

In Crimea, though, U.S. intelligence officials are concluding that Russian planners might have gotten a jump on the West by evading U.S. eavesdropping.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/..._MIDDLETopNews


Mr.Bolshevik (mass 243):

-U a Russian propaganda employee
-In Afghanistan ,superior Wests military technology destroyed Russian one, by NON professional army.
-In so call 'Yugoslav' war, Croats were shooting down Serbian  Mig's like clay pigeons with mostly American made rockets.
-NATO vs Serbia war, Russian build Migs or rockets were totally hopeless against Nato's Airforce.
-Logically, Germany (or Poland) should take back Kaliningrad (Koningsburg), right !.
-Around 700 000 ethnic Tatars live on Crimea, so don't BS.

PS, watch out for 'Pussy Riots' those girls could be dangerous  :D
PS 2, Putin's mega size dacha (outside Moscow) say all  ;D


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Skeletor on March 24, 2014, 03:58:00 PM
Payin’ Putin: As Ukraine crisis simmers, NASA to pay Russia $71M for rocket ride

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/03/24/us-astronaut-set-for-70-million-rocket-ride-to-space-station/

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: manuelsonn on March 25, 2014, 02:01:06 AM
.. the boot hooker enthusiast is dead..
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 25, 2014, 08:25:12 AM
Say what you want but it's pretty hard to not love these guys  ;D

One of the Ukrainian Maidan "protest" leaders has been taped receiving some boot to face from whores!! Tells you what kind of people Ukrainian new leaders are  :D
Video was aired on Russian news channel so I assume it's the job of FSB again  8)





Aaaand,,, the dude is shot dead.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 26, 2014, 08:41:20 PM

Aaaand,,, the dude is shot dead.


No fucking balls Mr.Bolshevik, to comment on V.V.P. mega dacha outside Moscow  ;D
Any progress regarding 5 km long bridge (+ roads) building from 'mainland'*  ;D
Guys like Eugen Kaspersky ( :P) must be very piss of with V.V.P.'s anschluss** of Crimea  ;D

* No supply line & shit would happen, remember Napoleons & Her Hitlers 'adventures'  ::)
** VVP is trying to copy AH  ::)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 27, 2014, 07:31:22 AM
No fucking balls Mr.Bolshevik, to comment on V.V.P. mega dacha outside Moscow  ;D
Any progress regarding 5 km long bridge (+ roads) building from 'mainland'*  ;D
Guys like Eugen Kaspersky ( :P) must be very piss of with V.V.P.'s anschluss** of Crimea  ;D

* No supply line & shit would happen, remember Napoleons & Her Hitlers 'adventures'  ::)
** VVP is trying to copy AH  ::)

Whut this got to do with the actual topic?
Military matters I find best not to discuss with an armchair general who has never fired an assault rifle in his life.
But I can assure you Russia won't attack USA and USA won't attack Russia.

"Putin's" (actually it's property of Russian state just like the presidential plane and limo) dacha outside Moscow? He has working residence outside Moscow, yes.
If you are interested about it, there is even a very nice documentary "day in the life of Putin" including plenty of footage of Putin in his dacha. Even having breakfast after morning swim in massive pool!! Very good clip:





To make this even remotely related to topic:
Serbia vs. Ukraine - Serbian fans showing support to Russia by waving massive Russian flag and singing Katyusha  ;D

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 27, 2014, 04:17:32 PM
So everything is 100% perfect in VVP life  ;D
U have no balls to say anything negative about Russia  :P
Impressive that wall around VVP dacha  ;D, why walls is people  :-* :-* :-* him so much  ::)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 28, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
So everything is 100% perfect in VVP life  ;D
U have no balls to say anything negative about Russia  :P
Impressive that wall around VVP dacha  ;D, why walls is people  :-* :-* :-* him so much  ::)


100% perfect? Life is never 100% perfect. And it definitely is not that for a president of country like Russia. Most people would be dead from the stress already  ;D

Are you serious. Have you ever seen how the president of USA rolls? Dude has probably more security than Putin and is supposed to represent the "free world"  ::)
Do you understand that there are very powerful people - even governments backed by power of a whole nation - in this world who would love to see these guys six feet under. They can't live in normal suburb even if they liked to. CIA or Saudis would down Putin the first morning he is collecting his newspaper from the porch.


Bro, do you know what this is?
(http://i.imgur.com/kVgT6h9.jpg)


It's Camp David. Country house of president of USA. I bet it has thicker walls and more cameras in the woods than Putin's dacha  8)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 28, 2014, 01:40:28 PM

^^ Hey, look at what I found!

Even the residence of Australian PM (as meaningless person as he is compared to VVP or Borack) has quite a wall around it  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/GrPrZkg.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 28, 2014, 02:38:25 PM
Putin is guy, & U have no balls to say anything negative about him !.
Aussie PM don't eliminate his opposition in VVP style.
Not his property & don't have billions like KGB pupil.
OBW, Aussie PM is in far better shape than VVP  ;D
Can Putin ride bike 50 km without machine guarded escort like Aussie Tony  ;D

PS, how is Crimean bridge building "progressing"  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 28, 2014, 03:26:47 PM
Putin is guy, & U have no balls to say anything negative about him !.
Aussie PM don't eliminate his opposition in VVP style.
Not his property & don't have billions like KGB pupil.
OBW, Aussie PM is in far better shape than VVP  ;D
Can Putin ride bike 50 km without machine guarded escort like Aussie Tony  ;D

PS, how is Crimean bridge building "progressing"  ;D


Seriously.
If he had those billions hidden somewhere, why on earth wouldn't American brothers dig that up and put sanctions on actual property of Putin he supposedly hides in Switzerland or whatever? You think Americans wouldn't have managed to find that money? I assure you, they want Putin gone so badly they have done everything they can (and that's a lot) to find dirt about him.
But nothing has been found. Just warm air coming from mouths of nobodies.


Regarding the bridge, decision to build it has been made.

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140319/188581383/Russia-to-Build-Bridge-to-Crimea.html
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 28, 2014, 07:58:45 PM
'US desperate to isolate Russia on all fronts'

Published time: March 28, 2014 13:36


The Obama administration is taking no prisoners trying to “isolate” Russia on all possible fronts – with negligible results so far.

Here I outlined some reasons why Asia won’t isolate Russia. And here some reasons why the EU cannot afford to isolate Russia. Yet the Obama administration is relentless, and bound to keep attacking on three major fronts – the G20, Iran and Syria.

First, the G20. Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop threw a balloon, speculating that Russia and President Vladimir Putin could be barred from the G20 summit in Brisbane in November.

The reaction of the other four BRICS member-nations was swift: “The custodianship of the G20 belongs to all member-states equally and no one member-state can unilaterally determine its nature and character.”

US-subservient Australia had to shut up. For now.

The BRICS, not by accident, are the key developing world alliance inside the G20, which actually discusses what matters in international relations. The G7 – which ‘expelled’ Russia from its upcoming meeting in Sochi, transferred to Brussels - is just a self-important talk shop.
Sanction to sanction

Then there’s Iran. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov made it very clear that if the US and selected European minions would slap economic sanctions over the Crimea referendum, “we will take retaliatory measures as well.” And he meant it in relation to the P5+1 negotiations over the Iranian nuclear dossier.

Here’s a fairly accurate depiction of the US establishment’s view on the Russian role in the negotiations.

It’s true that the 2009 revelation of a secret, underground Iranian uranium enrichment facility did not sit well with Moscow – which in response cancelled the sale of the S-300 air defense system to Tehran.

But more crucial is the fact Moscow wants the Iranian nuclear dossier to be kept under UN Security Council umbrella – where it can exercise a veto; any solution must be multilateral, and not concocted by psychotic neo-cons.

Conflicting political factions in Iran may harbor doubts about Moscow’s commitment to a just solution – considering Moscow has not done much to alleviate the harsh sanctions package. And yes, both Russia and Iran are in competition as energy exporters – and sanctions do punish Iran and reward Russia (50 percent less Iranian oil exports since 2011, and not even qualifying as a major exporter of natural gas).

But if the American sanction obsession engulfs Russia as well, expect fireworks; as in Moscow accelerating a swap of up to 500,000 barrels a day of Iranian crude in exchange for Russia building another nuclear power plant; extra Russian moves busting the Western sanctions wall; and even Moscow deciding to sell not only the S-300 but the S-400 or the ultra-sophisticated, upcoming S-500 air defense system to Tehran.

It’s false flag time


Finally there’s Syria. Once again, the BRICS are at the forefront. Russian Ambassador-at-Large Vadim Lukov nailed it when he stressed, “Frankly speaking, without the BRICS position, Syria would have long ago turned into Libya.”

The BRICS learned their lesson for Syria when they let their abstentions at a UN vote open the way for NATO’s humanitarian bombing of Libya into a failed state. Subsequently, Russian diplomacy intervened to save the Obama administration from bombing Syria over a senseless, self-inflicted ‘red line’ – with potentially cataclysmic consequences.


Now the plot is thickening again. UN and Arab League envoy Lakhdar Brahimi has spun that the resumption of the Geneva II peace talks is “out of the question” for the moment. In a briefing to the UN Security Council in early March, he blamed the Syrian government for this.

Read more: http://rt.com/op-edge/us-desperate-to-isolate-russia-893/
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 28, 2014, 08:18:01 PM
Seriously.
If he had those billions hidden somewhere, why on earth wouldn't American brothers dig that up and put sanctions on actual property of Putin he supposedly hides in Switzerland or whatever? You think Americans wouldn't have managed to find that money? I assure you, they want Putin gone so badly they have done everything they can (and that's a lot) to find dirt about him.
But nothing has been found. Just warm air coming from mouths of nobodies.


Regarding the bridge, decision to build it has been made.

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140319/188581383/Russia-to-Build-Bridge-to-Crimea.html


In time when the USA was preparing to reduce military, Putin & his "Einsteins" invaded Crimea  ;D ;D ;D
Every one of NATO countries & those non Nato's members around Russia would now increase military budgets  :D thanks
to Vladimir Vladimirovic Putin.

Vladimir, NATO  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*



Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 31, 2014, 12:36:21 AM

Beautiful city of St. Petersburg, Russia:

Russian patriots present a cake to representative of US consulate in thanks to US politics which helped to bring Crimea back to Russia  ;D
These Russians sure know how to get in someones head - must be all the psychic methods inherited from KGB  :D


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 31, 2014, 01:32:00 AM
So touchy  :'(, any sexy images of VVP's daughters  ;)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 31, 2014, 01:37:32 AM
God Bless mother Russia!
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 31, 2014, 01:43:16 AM
Beautiful city of St. Petersburg, Russia:

Russian patriots present a cake to representative of US consulate in thanks to US politics which helped to bring Crimea back to Russia  ;D
These Russians sure know how to get in someones head - must be all the psychic methods inherited from KGB  :D



lol golden....altough the russians attacked my homeland in the 30s and 40s all is forgotten and without them syria would be ruled by al qaida affiliated extrrm muslims because of  obama
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 31, 2014, 01:49:18 AM
lol golden....altough the russians attacked my homeland in the 30s and 40s all is forgotten and without them syria would be ruled by al qaida affiliated extrrm muslims because of  obama

Yes, without Russia, Syrian women and children would be gang raped, mutilated and murdered, daily. 

Lucky the president of the USA and the Secretary of State John Kerry were thwarted.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 31, 2014, 01:53:03 AM


“This is really beyond all boundaries. It’s about time we grab our guns and kill go kill those damn Russians together with their leader,” Tymoshenko said.

The ex-pm declared if she was in charge “there would be no f***ing way that they would get Crimea then.”


But Tymoshenko, who plans to run in Ukraine’s presidential election, expressed confidence that she would have found "a way to kill those a*****es.”

Read more: http://rt.com/news/tymoshenko-calls-destroy-russia-917/

Ha ha what a dumb whore.    That dumb moron couldn't stop diddlysquat.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 31, 2014, 01:56:57 AM
Ha ha what a dumb whore.    That dumb moron couldn't stop diddlysquat.

She couldn't stop from sucking ma dick, that's for sure  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 31, 2014, 01:58:01 AM
She couldn't stop from sucking ma dick, that's for sure  :D :D :D

Probably her ONLY talent.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: freespirit on March 31, 2014, 09:16:48 AM
 :D


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on March 31, 2014, 09:51:24 AM
^^ LOL, love the face of the journalist at the end  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 31, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
:D





Putin won't be laughing for too long and neither will Crimea.......you see, Crimea gets their power, food, and fresh water from the Ukraine.....so its only a matter of time before that gets fucked with
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: manuelsonn on April 01, 2014, 01:47:44 AM

Putin won't be laughing for too long and neither will Crimea.......you see, Crimea gets their power, food, and fresh water from the Ukraine.....so its only a matter of time before that gets fucked with
u re a lunatic,
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 01, 2014, 02:47:08 AM
Putin is guy, & U have no balls to say anything negative about him !.
Aussie PM don't eliminate his opposition in VVP style.
Not his property & don't have billions like KGB pupil.
OBW, Aussie PM is in far better shape than VVP  ;D
Can Putin ride bike 50 km without machine guarded escort like Aussie Tony  ;D

PS, how is Crimean bridge building "progressing"  ;D

yes putin is a guy
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 01, 2014, 06:07:15 AM

Putin won't be laughing for too long and neither will Crimea.......you see, Crimea gets their power, food, and fresh water from the Ukraine.....so its only a matter of time before that gets fucked with

Cutting off for example power supply to Crimea would be considered an attempted genocide which would authorize Russian use of force to open a supply corridor through Ukraine. Plus bankrupted Ukrainian government is too bankrupt to stop selling to Crimea  ;D
For now Russia has upped the ferry traffic from Russia to Crimea in Kerch strait and plans more regular flights.

Russian PM Medvedev arrived in Crimea yesterday marking the highest ranking visit in the area since the crisis in Ukraine began.
He announced the plans to create a "special economic zone" in Crimea.
"Medvedev also announced that "sufficient volumes" of Russian rubles had been delivered to Crimea to allow the currency to circulate alongside the Ukrainian hryvnia during a transition period to run until 2016."

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-russia-crimea-dmitry-medvedev-20140331,0,4994528.story#axzz2xdgH9kJL

(http://i.imgur.com/BYoKEdZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RsZRmTx.jpg)


Meanwhile Russia has also bolstered the air defence in Crimea. Looks like it is now fully considered Russian territory.
(http://i.imgur.com/boB4dnG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5asKrdP.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 01, 2014, 04:01:08 PM
Little man, that Russian PM  ;D
Who is "taller" Medvedev or Vladimir  :D
Whats happen' to Russian nation, gone short  :P
O, shit Tatars want independence on Crimea  :P
O, shit 2. Ukraine is inviting NATO 'guests'  ;D for war games with their army, bad newz 4 Vladimir.


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 02, 2014, 01:53:24 AM
Hey guys, where is once mighty USSR's "Red Banner Pacific Fleet" from Kamchatka, what in a fuck
happened to those 49 warships,22 subs + massive shitload of helicopters,air regiments,etc,.........
For fuck sake that Russian fleet is missing since 1991  ??? .
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 02, 2014, 04:41:32 AM
Little man, that Russian PM  ;D
Who is "taller" Medvedev or Vladimir  :D
Whats happen' to Russian nation, gone short  :P
O, shit Tatars want independence on Crimea  :P
O, shit 2. Ukraine is inviting NATO 'guests'  ;D for war games with their army, bad newz 4 Vladimir.


HAHAAa, Putin aside I think Russia should restrict short trolls getting in power  ;D

Maybe next president is Rogozin. He may look a bit too gentle but he's quite hardliner
(http://i.imgur.com/fjjLZGt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bhgka6c.jpg)



The tatars are not seeking independence but autonomy within Crimean republic. That they might even get. It's not a new concept in Russian federation.

Crimean Tatars' want autonomy after Russia's seizure of peninsula
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/29/us-ukraine-crisis-crimea-tatars-idUSBREA2S09320140329
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: O.Z. on April 02, 2014, 04:50:53 AM
HAHAAa, Putin aside I think Russia should restrict short trolls getting in power  ;D

Maybe next president is Rogozin. He may look a bit too gentle but he's quite hardliner
(http://i.imgur.com/fjjLZGt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bhgka6c.jpg)



On topic, the nato talk is just political trolling. Germoney has spoken:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-01/ukraine-nato-membership-denied-as-germany-cites-signs-of-easing

He is indeed. I can see him being next president. Meantime Russia has increased gas price to Ukraine 43%. Considering they already are 2 billion behind with payments, this is going to hammer new government.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 02, 2014, 02:55:54 PM
Why not some good looking Russian pussy for prez  :-*
If another Putin-Medvedev rotation happen'  ???, o man this would be mad .........
Any traces of that missing fleet ???
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Nomad on April 02, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
He is indeed. I can see him being next president. Meantime Russia has increased gas price to Ukraine 43%. Considering they already are 2 billion behind with payments, this is going to hammer new government.

Its not like the new Ukraine gov will pay out anytime soon :D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 02, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
Its not like the new Ukraine gov will pay out anytime soon :D

E.C. Euros  ;)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 02, 2014, 03:13:51 PM
Teutonic knight no offence but your posts in this thread sucks  bigtime
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: honest on April 02, 2014, 03:29:04 PM

Putin won't be laughing for too long and neither will Crimea.......you see, Crimea gets their power, food, and fresh water from the Ukraine.....so its only a matter of time before that gets fucked with

Lol your beyond stupid, luckily for Ukrainians this sanctioning process against Russia has been instigated coming into the european spring believe me it will be resolved before the European winter, it is nothing more than the West trying to save a little face, believe me a phone call would have been given to Putin along the lines we have to look like were doing something, if they turn off the gas next winter in just that one act, they would have topped any sanction the west could bring against Russia.

Its all politics and its a done deal, west just trying to save face publicly, Putin looking like a grand master outplaying the west,and with a third rate armed forces Ukraine thinks it will be better off in the west, like Egypt Libya to many of their people think they will live like the people do on american tv, they dont realise that in democracy and capitalism there are winners and losers and their fate is sealed to the later, marked for future exploitation like every other american influenced country, that uncle sam has saved, dumb sheep.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 02, 2014, 03:32:10 PM
Lol your beyond stupid, luckily for Ukrainians this sanctioning process against Russia has been instigated coming into the european spring believe me it will be resolved before the European winter, it is nothing more than the West trying to save a little face, believe me a phone call would have been given to Putin along the lines we have to look like were doing something, if they turn off the gas next winter in just that one act, they would have topped any sanction the west could bring against Russia.

Its all politics and its a done deal, west just trying to save face publicly, Putin looking like a grand master outplaying the west,and with a third rate armed forces Ukraine thinks it will be better off in the west, like Egypt Libya to many of their people think they will live like the people do on american tv, they dont realise that in democracy and capitalism there are winners and losers and their fate is sealed to the later, marked for future exploitation like every other american influenced country, that uncle sam has saved, dumb sheep.
now this a real good post. Well said sir. Vince dont know shit about this
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: O.Z. on April 02, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
Its not like the new Ukraine gov will pay out anytime soon :D



I think EU is jumping in to fix the debt.
In order to move forward, new government have to get rid of Right Sector ASAP, eradicate them forever. Those guys are trouble.
As long as they are roaming the streets in Ukraine there will never be peace there
and eastern part of the country will be pushed to do what Crimea did.
The problem is it is not going to happen peacefully.

and this is for Knight, a new prosecutor in Crimea
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on April 02, 2014, 05:32:55 PM


I think EU is jumping in to fix the debt.
In order to move forward, new government have to get rid of Right Sector ASAP, eradicate them forever. Those guys are trouble.
As long as they are roaming the streets in Ukraine there will never be peace there
and eastern part of the country will be pushed to do what Crimea did.
The problem is it is not going to happen peacefully.

and this is for Knight, a new prosecutor in Crimea



what a lovely face, would have 5 children with her.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 02, 2014, 08:41:56 PM
Teutonic knight no offence but your posts in this thread sucks  bigtime

Wow, nothing sucks more than Soviet era thinking, today is 2014.
For fuck sake, look pro Putins supporters  :D , 90% a grumpy old + 55 farts still dreaming of USSR  ;D
Just look those USSR decoration on them , o man those old officers caps  ;D.
Fact is today Russian army have no chance against modern NATO forces.

PS.Please, tell me where is gone that "mighty" Pacific fleet  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 02, 2014, 08:53:00 PM
Lol your beyond stupid, luckily for Ukrainians this sanctioning process against Russia has been instigated coming into the european spring believe me it will be resolved before the European winter, it is nothing more than the West trying to save a little face, believe me a phone call would have been given to Putin along the lines we have to look like were doing something, if they turn off the gas next winter in just that one act, they would have topped any sanction the west could bring against Russia.

Its all politics and its a done deal, west just trying to save face publicly, Putin looking like a grand master outplaying the west,and with a third rate armed forces Ukraine thinks it will be better off in the west, like Egypt Libya to many of their people think they will live like the people do on american tv, they dont realise that in democracy and capitalism there are winners and losers and their fate is sealed to the later, marked for future exploitation like every other american influenced country, that uncle sam has saved, dumb sheep.

Same old Soviet era thinking  ::), if people of Ukraine want to be in EC it's up to them .
Who exploited countries like Estonia,Poland,East Germany or Bulgaria since 1945 until 90's ?.
Guy's don't U realize how much is Russia hated by people Poland or Latvia ?.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 02, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
ROFL... You heard it on getbig first

Zakaria: Russia endangering global order

By Fareed Zakaria

The best way to deal with Russia's aggression in Crimea is not to present it as routine national interest-based foreign policy that would be countered by Washington in a contest between two great powers. It is to point out, as Obama did eloquently last week in Brussels, that Russia is grossly endangering a global order that has benefited the entire world. Compare what the Obama administration has managed to organize in the wake of this latest Russian aggression, to the Bush administration's response to Putin's actions in Georgia in 2008.

That was a blatant invasion. Moscow sent in tanks and heavy artillery. Hundreds were killed. Nearly 200,000 people were displaced. Yet the response from the West was essentially nothing. This time the response has been much more serious. Some of this difference is the nature of the stakes. But it also might have to do with the fact that the Obama administration has taken pains to present Russia's actions in a broader context and get other countries to see them as such.

This is what leadership looks like in the 21st Century. There is in fact an evolving international order with new global norms making war and conquest increasingly rare. We should strengthen, not ridicule it. Yes, there are some places that stand in opposition to this trend: North Korea, Syria, Russia. The people running these countries believe that they're charting a path to greatness and glory. But they are the ones living in a fantasy world.

Watch the video for the full take or read the Washington Post column

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: O.Z. on April 02, 2014, 09:00:49 PM
This is Russia!!!
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: The Ugly on April 02, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Third World problems.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: O.Z. on April 02, 2014, 09:04:12 PM
Wow, nothing sucks more than Soviet era thinking, today is 2014.
For fuck sake, look pro Putins supporters  :D , 90% a grumpy old + 55 farts still dreaming of USSR  ;D
Just look those USSR decoration on them , o man those old officers caps  ;D.
Fact is today Russian army have no chance against modern NATO forces.

PS.Please, tell me where is gone that "mighty" Pacific fleet  ??? ??? ???


my friend I cannot agree with you on this one.
It is not about USSR, it is about Russian Empire, no soviet era of thinking at all.
Putin is trying to bring Russia to what it was before Lenin and the thugs came in power. Tzar Nikolai Romanov Russia.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 02, 2014, 09:07:29 PM
Russia has saved the world a few times in history, maybe they'll save us again.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: O.Z. on April 02, 2014, 09:12:02 PM
Russia has saved the world a few times in history, maybe they'll save us again.


who cares about the world as long as we have GetBig. This is our world. Fucked up but hey it is still ours.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 02, 2014, 09:24:05 PM

who cares about the world as long as we have GetBig. This is our world. Fucked up but hey it is still ours.

I just hope the servers are moved to Moscow when the globalist elite finally get their way in the west.  :D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: muscleman-2013 on April 02, 2014, 09:29:32 PM


Zakaria: Russia endangering global order

By Fareed Zakaria

It is to point out, as Obama did eloquently last week in Brussels, that Russia is grossly endangering a global order


Nuff said.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 02, 2014, 09:35:39 PM
Nuff said.

Funny how this "Global Order" thing is no longer just a conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 02, 2014, 11:09:14 PM
Wow, nothing sucks more than Soviet era thinking, today is 2014.
For fuck sake, look pro Putins supporters  :D , 90% a grumpy old + 55 farts still dreaming of USSR  ;D
Just look those USSR decoration on them , o man those old officers caps  ;D.
Fact is today Russian army have no chance against modern NATO forces.

PS.Please, tell me where is gone that "mighty" Pacific fleet  ??? ??? ???

wait it will come, they just started to rebuild their army it dosnt happen pver a night lol

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 03, 2014, 01:19:02 AM
my friend I cannot agree with you on this one.
It is not about USSR, it is about Russian Empire, no soviet era of thinking at all.
Putin is trying to bring Russia to what it was before Lenin and the thugs came in power. Tzar Nikolai Romanov Russia.

Yeah, nice German lady Catherine (the Great) created big Russia !.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: syntaxmachine on April 03, 2014, 02:25:41 AM
Funny how this "Global Order" thing is no longer just a conspiracy theory.

'Global order' in the sense understood by international relations scholars and think tank-types refers to the current distribution of global power with its nexus in Washington, underwritten by the permanent worldwide presence of the US national security establishment and the multilateral institutions established at the tail end of World War II. Anyone who wasn't dropped on their head as a child is capable of recognizing that this use of the term is unconspiratorial*.

'Global order' in the sense of a caste of non-Wiggsian Hebrews/bankers/lizards pulling the strings? Yeah, conspiratorial, and stupid.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 03, 2014, 06:43:47 AM
Why not some good looking Russian pussy for prez  :-*
If another Putin-Medvedev rotation happen'  ???, o man this would be mad .........
Any traces of that missing fleet ???

Women can be very manipulative, cold and cruel so not necessarily a bad idea to have female president  :D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 03, 2014, 06:56:59 AM
wait it will come, they just started to rebuild their army it dosnt happen pver a night lol


Plus Russia these days is aiming for smaller yet more agile force capable of rapid and precise reaction giving the opponent little to no time to answer.

USSR was the 2nd largest economy in the world with third largest population back in the day with multiple satellite states to feed and 'protect'. Russia is not.
No way it could maintain such a colossal (conventional) military.
And there's little need these days to have 100k tanks and 10k helicopters or whatever ready to roll. Threats these days are something different than facing NATO on massive battlefield in Europe.



Russian "analyst" made an interesting post recently concerning the Crimea take over and new Russian tactics (google translate):

Quote
Putin has tested a new but highly effective tactics of warfare

InCrimea, Vladimir Putin tried very effective tactic "pop-up"of the war.Soldiers unmarked cyberattacks "treacherouspropaganda media" - so effectively that the West has not evennothing to answer certain American experts who advised MikheilSaakashvili during the war 08.08.08.Discussions that invading Crimea,Putin behaved as if he lives in the 19th century, formed the wrongidea about the significance of recent events.Putin does notmiscalculated, he introduced new methods of warfare of the 21stcentury.

Before Putin invaded Georgia in August 2008, he spent manymonths on the placement of the traditional military equipment.Herestored railways and highways to move then throw them tanks andthousands of soldiers.He sent warplanes to the Georgian border.Healso took the instruments of state propaganda to prevent understandexactly who started this war.Now, however, Putin is no longer boundby the war on a national scale.Many years of confrontation with theseparatists, militants, terrorists and no nationality playersseriously affected his thinking.

In Crimea, Putin tried tactics "quickwar" - a quick and covert, which are likely to be widely used inthe future.Suddenly, out of nowhere appears a hidden army.Soldiersunmarked well prepared to counter fomenting unrest and maintenance ofstreet fighting.These soldiers, who, according to Putin, he was notsent there, obviously, are not governed by any laws, rules andconventions governing the conduct of war - until it became the mostserious challenge to Putin's international order.This kind of hybridsoldiers and "militants": hidden person, secret command andcontrol and secret orders, undoubtedly designed to achieve the publicinterest.No evident leader prevents the international community tomake a reciprocal actions, because it is unclear who to negotiate ona ceasefire or surrender.

Furthermore, if the start fighting, stopthem would be extremely difficult.These irregulars also represent apsychological threat to the new Kiev authorities and Ukrainians ingeneral, because no one knows where this may lurk hidden army offighters.Tactics Putin creates chaos he runs, the status quo, whichallows him to influence the policy of Ukraine.Putin "invaded"in Crimea, partly because it was the least risky way to test his newtactic of war.Crimea where the Russian military assets deployed andwhere he lives sympathetic Russian population, geographicallyisolated from the rest of Ukraine.Putin could confidently expect thatby the weary West conflicts will not follow any physical response tohis "invasion."For many years, Putin has relied on a heavyhammer in the spirit of Soviet times.However, his recent actionssuggest that the traditional army and intelligence have ceased to bethe weapon with which he intends to wage war.

While the West isthinking about how best to answer him, Putin is likely goes on to thenext step: he is trying to find out what international protocols canjustify his actions and his tactics can be applied elsewhere.It istime to abandon the decadent the belief that the era of continentalwars in the past.In the future, the world will follow the tactics ofPutin's status quo, and it is a reality that we must recognize and towhich we must find an adequate answer.

http://gurkhan.blogspot.fi/2014/03/blog-post_12.html
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 03, 2014, 07:28:52 AM
my friend I cannot agree with you on this one.
It is not about USSR, it is about Russian Empire, no soviet era of thinking at all.
Putin is trying to bring Russia to what it was before Lenin and the thugs came in power. Tzar Nikolai Romanov Russia.

Absolutely.
Putin is supporting traditional, even conservative values, has revived the church (USSR (communism) wanted to destroy it) etc. Imperial double headed eagle is a state symbol instead of hammer and sickle.


Even Russian military convoy showed the "Imperial standard flag" along the Russian one:

(http://i.imgur.com/ihP37Kd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Uvy9vet.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 03, 2014, 07:58:33 AM
Plus Russia these days is aiming for smaller yet more agile force capable of rapid and precise reaction giving the opponent little to no time to answer.

USSR was the 2nd largest economy in the world with third largest population back in the day with multiple satellite states to feed and 'protect'. Russia is not.
No way it could maintain such a colossal (conventional) military.
And there's little need these days to have 100k tanks and 10k helicopters or whatever ready to roll. Threats these days are something different than facing NATO on massive battlefield in Europe.



Russian "analyst" made an interesting post recently concerning the Crimea take over and new Russian tactics (google translate):

fuck i love your posts in this thread..you are coming with facts when teutonic princess  comes with  hundreds of smileys
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on April 03, 2014, 08:22:23 AM
So is russia gonna move on ukraine or what? It starting to get boring..i need some new action to keep me entertained. Plus i love it when russia makes the globalists get their panties all in a twist :)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 03, 2014, 03:18:15 PM
fuck i love your posts in this thread..you are coming with facts when teutonic princess  comes with  hundreds of smileys

and NOW ?, gas/petrol is the only export from mother Russia ...........for fuck U guys import kangaroo meat for protein  ;D

mother Russia back door can be easily penetrated by Samurais & Alaskan grizzlies  ;D ,double penetration  :P

fact is: Russian army = amateurs army

simply no chance against NATO ( ching is watching  ;))

who sold once mighty Pacific fleet as scrap metal ($ 200 000 per sub  ::))

gee no Ukrainians on GB ...............can U get any .......
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 03, 2014, 03:22:46 PM
and NOW ?, gas/petrol is the only export from mother Russia ...........for fuck U guys import kangaroo meat for protein  ;D

mother Russia back door can be easily penetrated by Samurais & Alaskan grizzlies  ;D ,double penetration  :P

fact is: Russian army = amateurs army

simply no chance against NATO ( ching is watching  ;))

who sold once mighty Pacific fleet as scrap metal ($ 200 000 per sub  ::))

gee no Ukrainians on GB ...............can U get any .......

as i said they just started to rebuild their army wait 5-10 years. And they sold the soviet unions fleet as scrapmetal its a new era now. Lol at the part that gas/petrol is the only export they have..look at some of the saudi countries they only have oil as a export and they are stinking rich. And biggest part of europe is relaying on Russias oil/gas.

Btw how does kangaroomeat taste?
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: The Ugly on April 03, 2014, 03:26:42 PM
fuck i love your posts in this thread..you are coming with facts when teutonic princess  comes with  hundreds of smileys

Expect PMs shortly.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 03, 2014, 03:42:12 PM
 
Btw how does kangaroomeat taste?
[/quote]

Not too bad,  :-\ visit & we will go hunting them  ;)
Yanukovic, paid $ 100 000 for 1 stupid Emu  ::)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 03, 2014, 03:53:08 PM

Btw how does kangaroomeat taste?


Not too bad,  :-\ visit & we will go hunting them  ;)
Yanukovic, paid $ 100 000 for 1 stupid Emu  ::)
i will do if you promise me not to fill my phone with a million smileys when i text you that im at the airport so you can come pick me up =D


Now back to mother russia, the second best country when it comes to political and military power. First is ofcourse the great peoples republic of north korea
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: visualizeperfection on April 03, 2014, 03:53:44 PM
i will do if you promise me not to fill my phone with a million smileys when i text you that im at the airport so you can come pick me up =D


Now back to mother russia, the second best country when it comes to political and military power. First is ofcourse the great peoples republic of north korea

what is the best vacation resort in the great peoples rebublic of north korea?
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: honest on April 03, 2014, 04:01:49 PM
So is russia gonna move on ukraine or what? It starting to get boring..i need some new action to keep me entertained. Plus i love it when russia makes the globalists get their panties all in a twist :)

There is no need to, they have already demonstrated that they will act while the west will talk, The rest of the Eastern Ukraine does not represent as much strategic value to Russia as Crimea, The russian populated areas of Ukraine will only be invaded to protect citizens, if they had not invaded and annexed Crimea, the anti russian brigades backed by the west would have already moved east, the west now knows that Russia will react directly now to avoid a civil war which would have been the wests preference, better undermine and install a puppet government than to actually have to send your own troops there to die, you dont have to beat Uncle sam you just have to kill enough of them for the war to be unpopular, and let there democracy do the rest. Korea, Vietnam, they cant win a war,they more than have the capacity to do it but their democratic free society doesn't have the stomach for it.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 03, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
i will do if you promise me not to fill my phone with a million smileys when i text you that im at the airport so you can come pick me up =D


Now back to mother russia, the second best country when it comes to political and military power. First is ofcourse the great peoples republic of north korea

Do U have Jet too  :D, OBW no need to bring hunting AK  ;)
Would like to spend winter in deep Siberia (with 2-3 blonde's)
Hey, but Cuba is suppose to be #.1 (don't like Korean pussy)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 03, 2014, 04:11:39 PM
There is no need to, they have already demonstrated that they will act while the west will talk, The rest of the Eastern Ukraine does not represent as much strategic value to Russia as Crimea, The russian populated areas of Ukraine will only be invaded to protect citizens, if they had not invaded and annexed Crimea, the anti russian brigades backed by the west would have already moved east, the west now knows that Russia will react directly now to avoid a civil war which would have been the wests preference, better undermine and install a puppet government than to actually have to send your own troops there to die, you dont have to beat Uncle sam you just have to kill enough of them for the war to be unpopular, and let there democracy do the rest. Korea, Vietnam, they cant win a war,they more than have the capacity to do it but their democratic free society doesn't have the stomach for it.

Hmm, PROTECT from what ???
Love those NAZI posters in Crimea, any chance to get 1 ?, they must be 5 x 5 m
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 03, 2014, 04:48:26 PM
what is the best vacation resort in the great peoples rebublic of north korea?
pyongyang, its a great city filled with friendly koreans and lots of big awesome discoteques you can go out on that are filled with big breasted hot koreans...the pics of a empty pyongyang you see on a google search is only photoshop western propaganda. Its a big city with a great atmosphere and dont miss the militaryparades, its a sight to see the new red army showing its strength with super advanced weapons and higly trained koreans that are so above sas and the marines etc its not even funny.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 03, 2014, 05:02:59 PM
pyongyang, its a great city filled with friendly koreans and lots of big awesome discoteques you can go out on that are filled with big breasted hot koreans...the pics of a empty pyongyang you see on a google search is only photoshop western propaganda. Its a big city with a great atmosphere and dont miss the militaryparades, its a sight to see the new red army showing its strength with super advanced weapons and higly trained koreans that are so above sas and the marines etc its not even funny.

Images,images of those BIG BREASTED communists Korea pussy  :D
Can U get BJ 4 Mars bar from those chicks ?.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: O.Z. on April 03, 2014, 05:24:55 PM
pyongyang, its a great city filled with friendly koreans and lots of big awesome discoteques you can go out on that are filled with big breasted hot koreans...the pics of a empty pyongyang you see on a google search is only photoshop western propaganda. Its a big city with a great atmosphere and dont miss the militaryparades, its a sight to see the new red army showing its strength with super advanced weapons and higly trained koreans that are so above sas and the marines etc its not even funny.

North Korea is becoming increasingly popular destination for tourists from oz. I was checking local papers yesterday and there was a couple adds for it.
http://www.guideposttours.com.au/discover-north-korea
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 03, 2014, 10:38:44 PM
fuck i love your posts in this thread..you are coming with facts when teutonic princess  comes with  hundreds of smileys

mass243 use to annoy the shit out of me. Now I respect him  8)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 03, 2014, 11:59:55 PM
North Korea is becoming increasingly popular destination for tourists from oz. I was checking local papers yesterday and there was a couple adds for it.
http://www.guideposttours.com.au/discover-north-korea
thats pretty cool,they have opened up for tourist in a way that was impossible before
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 04, 2014, 02:26:20 AM
thats pretty cool,they have opened up for tourist in a way that was impossible before

No offence Mensa Bobby a U young babushka ? (or older 1).
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 04, 2014, 02:53:42 AM
No offence Mensa Bobby a U young babushka ? (or older 1).
if by this you are asking my age im 33
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 04, 2014, 03:23:20 AM
if by this you are asking my age im 33

Nope , a U giravik lifter too ?.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 04, 2014, 01:46:22 PM
Whose Side Is God on Now?
Pat Buchanan


In his Kremlin defense of Russia's annexation of Crimea, Vladimir Putin, even before he began listing the battles where Russian blood had been shed on Crimean soil, spoke of an older deeper bond.

Crimea, said Putin, "is the location of ancient Khersones, where Prince Vladimir was baptized. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilization and human values that unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus."

Russia is a Christian country, Putin was saying.

This speech recalls last December's address where the former KGB chief spoke of Russia as standing against a decadent West:

"Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values. Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation."

Heard any Western leader, say, Barack Obama, talk like that lately?


Indicting the "Bolsheviks" who gave away Crimea to Ukraine, Putin declared, "May God judge them."

What is going on here?

With Marxism-Leninism a dead faith, Putin is saying the new ideological struggle is between a debauched West led by the United States and a traditionalist world Russia would be proud to lead.

In the new war of beliefs, Putin is saying, it is Russia that is on God's side. The West is Gomorrah.

Western leaders who compare Putin's annexation of Crimea to Hitler's Anschluss with Austria, who dismiss him as a "KGB thug," who call him "the alleged thief, liar and murderer who rules Russia," as the Wall Street Journal's Holman Jenkins did, believe Putin's claim to stand on higher moral ground is beyond blasphemous.

But Vladimir Putin knows exactly what he is doing, and his new claim has a venerable lineage. The ex-Communist Whittaker Chambers who exposed Alger Hiss as a Soviet spy, was, at the time of his death in 1964, writing a book on "The Third Rome."

The first Rome was the Holy City and seat of Christianity that fell to Odoacer and his barbarians in 476 A.D. The second Rome was Constantinople, Byzantium, (today's Istanbul), which fell to the Turks in 1453. The successor city to Byzantium, the Third Rome, the last Rome to the old believers, was — Moscow.

Putin is entering a claim that Moscow is the Godly City of today and command post of the counter-reformation against the new paganism.


Putin is plugging into some of the modern world's most powerful currents.


Not only in his defiance of what much of the world sees as America's arrogant drive for global hegemony. Not only in his tribal defense of lost Russians left behind when the USSR disintegrated.

He is also tapping into the worldwide revulsion of and resistance to the sewage of a hedonistic secular and social revolution coming out of the West.


In the culture war for the future of mankind, Putin is planting Russia's flag firmly on the side of traditional Christianity. His recent speeches carry echoes of John Paul II whose Evangelium Vitae in 1995 excoriated the West for its embrace of a "culture of death."

What did Pope John Paul mean by moral crimes?

The West's capitulation to a sexual revolution of easy divorce, rampant promiscuity, pornography, homosexuality, feminism, abortion, same-sex marriage, euthanasia, assisted suicide — the displacement of Christian values by Hollywood values.


Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum writes that she was stunned when in Tbilisi to hear a Georgian lawyer declare of the former pro-Western regime of Mikhail Saakashvili, "They were LGBT."

"It was an eye-opening moment," wrote Applebaum. Fear and loathing of the same-sex-marriage pandemic has gone global. In Paris, a million-man Moral Majority marched in angry protest.

Author Masha Gessen, who has written a book on Putin, says of his last two years, "Russia is remaking itself as the leader of the anti-Western world."

But the war to be waged with the West is not with rockets. It is a cultural, social, moral war where Russia's role, in Putin's words, is to "prevent movement backward and downward, into chaotic darkness and a return to a primitive state."

Would that be the "chaotic darkness" and "primitive state" of mankind, before the Light came into the world?

This writer was startled to read in the Jan-Feb. newsletter from the social conservative World Council of Families in Rockford, Ill., that, of the "ten best trends" in the world in 2013, number one was "Russia Emerges as Pro-Family Leader."

In 2013, the Kremlin imposed a ban on homosexual propaganda, a ban on abortion advertising, a ban on abortions after 12 weeks and a ban on sacrilegious insults to religious believers.

"While the other super-powers march to a pagan world-view," writes WCF's Allan Carlson, "Russia is defending Judeo-Christian values. During the Soviet era, Western communists flocked to Moscow. This year, World Congress of Families VII will be held in Moscow, Sept. 10-12."

Will Vladimir Putin give the keynote?

In the new ideological Cold War, whose side is God on now?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of "Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?" To find out more about Patrick Buchanan and read features by other Creators writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Web page at www.creators.com.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/pat-buchanan.html

COPYRIGHT 2014 CREATORS.COM
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 04, 2014, 10:29:01 PM
3 McDonald's restaurants in Crimea are now closed.
What U gonna eat now Mr. Putin ?, America always wins  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 04, 2014, 10:43:45 PM
3 McDonald's restaurants in Crimea are now closed.
What U gonna eat now Mr. Putin ?, America always wins  ;D

What do you think of Putin's Biker Brothers? The Night Wolves...

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Bosch on April 04, 2014, 11:05:50 PM
3 McDonald's restaurants in Crimea are now closed.
What U gonna eat now Mr. Putin ?, America always wins  ;D

 ;D
That was a pain Russia couldn't handle.
A blow below the belt.
Thousands of people left to strarving death.
America's secret weapon.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Nomad on April 04, 2014, 11:06:21 PM
3 McDonald's restaurants in Crimea are now closed.
What U gonna eat now Mr. Putin ?, America always wins  ;D

Lots of value lost there.

No more big macs  ::)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 04, 2014, 11:09:21 PM
Putin is more American than Americans.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Bosch on April 04, 2014, 11:27:20 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/24/article-1369485-0B4FFF9100000578-679_634x423.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/24/article-1369485-0B4FFF3F00000578-637_634x410.jpg)

(http://en.ria.ru/images/17606/59/176065929.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 04, 2014, 11:30:55 PM
We have a serious problem in the west...  :-\

(http://www.bucksright.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/obama-in-mom-jeans.jpg)

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 05, 2014, 02:49:08 AM
Putin is more American than Americans.
lololololol sorry tu say usa your president is more homo than even vissy
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 05, 2014, 06:43:42 AM
HAHA, little lighter stuff... thought this was worth sharing  ;D


Bush: Putin 'dissed' our pet, said his dog was 'bigger, stronger, faster'


“As you know, our dear dog Barney, who had a special place in my heart — Putin dissed him and said, ‘You call it a dog?’’’ Bush told Hager.
He continued: “A year later, your mom and I go to visit and Vladimir says, ‘Would you like to meet my dog?’ Out bounds this huge hound, obviously much bigger than a Scottish terrier, and Putin looks at me and says, ‘Bigger, stronger and faster than Barney.




http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-w-bush-says-putin-dissed-his-dog-barney-n71841
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: muscleman-2013 on April 05, 2014, 06:53:40 AM
 :)

Whose Side Is God on Now?
Pat Buchanan


In his Kremlin defense of Russia's annexation of Crimea, Vladimir Putin, even before he began listing the battles where Russian blood had been shed on Crimean soil, spoke of an older deeper bond.

Crimea, said Putin, "is the location of ancient Khersones, where Prince Vladimir was baptized. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilization and human values that unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus."

Russia is a Christian country, Putin was saying.

This speech recalls last December's address where the former KGB chief spoke of Russia as standing against a decadent West:

"Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values. Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation."

Heard any Western leader, say, Barack Obama, talk like that lately?


Indicting the "Bolsheviks" who gave away Crimea to Ukraine, Putin declared, "May God judge them."

What is going on here?

With Marxism-Leninism a dead faith, Putin is saying the new ideological struggle is between a debauched West led by the United States and a traditionalist world Russia would be proud to lead.

In the new war of beliefs, Putin is saying, it is Russia that is on God's side. The West is Gomorrah.

Western leaders who compare Putin's annexation of Crimea to Hitler's Anschluss with Austria, who dismiss him as a "KGB thug," who call him "the alleged thief, liar and murderer who rules Russia," as the Wall Street Journal's Holman Jenkins did, believe Putin's claim to stand on higher moral ground is beyond blasphemous.

But Vladimir Putin knows exactly what he is doing, and his new claim has a venerable lineage. The ex-Communist Whittaker Chambers who exposed Alger Hiss as a Soviet spy, was, at the time of his death in 1964, writing a book on "The Third Rome."

The first Rome was the Holy City and seat of Christianity that fell to Odoacer and his barbarians in 476 A.D. The second Rome was Constantinople, Byzantium, (today's Istanbul), which fell to the Turks in 1453. The successor city to Byzantium, the Third Rome, the last Rome to the old believers, was — Moscow.

Putin is entering a claim that Moscow is the Godly City of today and command post of the counter-reformation against the new paganism.


Putin is plugging into some of the modern world's most powerful currents.


Not only in his defiance of what much of the world sees as America's arrogant drive for global hegemony. Not only in his tribal defense of lost Russians left behind when the USSR disintegrated.

He is also tapping into the worldwide revulsion of and resistance to the sewage of a hedonistic secular and social revolution coming out of the West.


In the culture war for the future of mankind, Putin is planting Russia's flag firmly on the side of traditional Christianity. His recent speeches carry echoes of John Paul II whose Evangelium Vitae in 1995 excoriated the West for its embrace of a "culture of death."

What did Pope John Paul mean by moral crimes?

The West's capitulation to a sexual revolution of easy divorce, rampant promiscuity, pornography, homosexuality, feminism, abortion, same-sex marriage, euthanasia, assisted suicide — the displacement of Christian values by Hollywood values.


Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum writes that she was stunned when in Tbilisi to hear a Georgian lawyer declare of the former pro-Western regime of Mikhail Saakashvili, "They were LGBT."

"It was an eye-opening moment," wrote Applebaum. Fear and loathing of the same-sex-marriage pandemic has gone global. In Paris, a million-man Moral Majority marched in angry protest.

Author Masha Gessen, who has written a book on Putin, says of his last two years, "Russia is remaking itself as the leader of the anti-Western world."

But the war to be waged with the West is not with rockets. It is a cultural, social, moral war where Russia's role, in Putin's words, is to "prevent movement backward and downward, into chaotic darkness and a return to a primitive state."

Would that be the "chaotic darkness" and "primitive state" of mankind, before the Light came into the world?

This writer was startled to read in the Jan-Feb. newsletter from the social conservative World Council of Families in Rockford, Ill., that, of the "ten best trends" in the world in 2013, number one was "Russia Emerges as Pro-Family Leader."

In 2013, the Kremlin imposed a ban on homosexual propaganda, a ban on abortion advertising, a ban on abortions after 12 weeks and a ban on sacrilegious insults to religious believers.

"While the other super-powers march to a pagan world-view," writes WCF's Allan Carlson, "Russia is defending Judeo-Christian values. During the Soviet era, Western communists flocked to Moscow. This year, World Congress of Families VII will be held in Moscow, Sept. 10-12."

Will Vladimir Putin give the keynote?

In the new ideological Cold War, whose side is God on now?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of "Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?" To find out more about Patrick Buchanan and read features by other Creators writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Web page at www.creators.com.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/pat-buchanan.html

COPYRIGHT 2014 CREATORS.COM
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 05, 2014, 07:24:05 AM
and NOW ?, gas/petrol is the only export from mother Russia ...........

who sold once mighty Pacific fleet as scrap metal ($ 200 000 per sub  ::))


Stop with that already.

-Russia is the second largest arms exporter in the world. Growing every year.
-Rosatom is the largest npp builder in the world with portfolio full of orders for a decade plus maintenance and supply contracts all over the place.
-Russia is responsible for most of the satellite launches and close to 100% of human launches into space.
-Aviation industry is getting back on its feet
-Hell, Russian company T-Platforms delivered a 'supercomputer' to State university of New York back in 2012
  (same company has built the 3rd fastest supercomputer in Europe for Moscow uni)
-Russia has become the 9th most popular destination in the world for tourists
-Russia has internet and it-companies like Kaspersky  
Russia’s Top Cyber Sleuth Foils US Spies, Helps Kremlin Pals
http://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/all/
 or Yandex (the 4th largest search engine)
-Russian software exports have been growing at rate like 20% annually (Russian software exports reach 5.2 billion dollars in 2013, http://rbth.co.uk/news/2014/01/08/russian_software_exports_reach_52_billion_dollars_in_2013_33133.html )


Plus no one sold the fukin' submarines to scrap metal WTF!!
Seriously. Decommissioning old and useless vessels is a general practice.

But luckily, all the Russian shipyards have hands full with new subs. Nuclear and diesel-electric They make them in shifts  8)
(http://i.imgur.com/bmYROn6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Yp5fdxq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wK0StUF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8vHbYH3.jpg)

Look, this fokker shipyard seems to have two parallel sub construction lines rolling simultaneously  :o
Mother and baby subs
(http://i.imgur.com/UX5x697.jpg)



The lost 20 years sure left helluva mark in Russia and everything is inefficient and difficult as fuck. But it can manufacture whatever it wants if it's wanted enough.
NOW, WHAT can YOUR floating cangaroo land make?
And don't list some yankee stuff! It has nothing to do with your sorry ass floating desert.
(http://i.imgur.com/1ROpm27.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wx5V12j.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kfhrcCV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JjQwHpA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/I36FtNL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/h5Ap2qv.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Tapeworm on April 05, 2014, 07:53:55 AM
Took a Ukraine to get it out.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 05, 2014, 10:34:21 AM
OK, I'm cooled down and ready to continue on topic.
Interesting stuff if real:

Ukraine arrests alleged eastern coup plotters

Ukraine's security service said Saturday it has detained a 15-strong armed gang planning to seize power in an eastern province on the border with Russia.

The Security Service of Ukraine said it seized 300 machine guns, an antitank grenade launcher, a large number of grenades, five handguns and petrol bombs
.


http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-arrests-alleged-eastern-coup-plotters-145942138.html
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 05, 2014, 03:15:34 PM
What do you think of Putin's Biker Brothers? The Night Wolves...



Poor imitation of the Wests MC's, met some of them,some good machines, but mostly shit ones (Urals  ::)),limited
riding season,but the "best" was theirs Mad Max event  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 05, 2014, 03:28:29 PM
Stop with that already.


Plus no one sold the fukin' submarines to scrap metal WTF!!
Seriously. Decommissioning old and useless vessels is a general practice.




 100 x  ;D

A U trying to bribe me  ???
Babushka, U a poorly inform about Russian subs sale  :)
I was so "impress" with Foxtrot 540 class  ;D
Remember Kursk disaster,  ???
Kaspersky & similar guys a now screwed.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 05, 2014, 03:35:01 PM

OK, I'm cooled down and ready to continue on topic.


100 x  ;D

Vodka could help U.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 05, 2014, 03:48:34 PM


NOW, WHAT can YOUR floating cangaroo land make?



Surfboards, would U like to buy 1 or 2 ?.

Do U realize that 100's of Russian students work in escort business after school hours in Sydney's Eastern suburbs
& hairy Jews from Rose Bay/Bondi (suburbs) fuck them  :P VISIT & SEE with your own eyes.

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: _bruce_ on April 05, 2014, 04:27:15 PM
Surfboards, would U like to buy 1 or 2 ?.

Do U realize that 100's of Russian students work in escort business after school hours in Sydney's Eastern suburbs
& hairy Jews from Rose Bay/Bondi (suburbs) fuck them  :P VISIT & SEE with your own eyes.



Kosher dating.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 06, 2014, 03:05:18 AM
HAHA, little lighter stuff... thought this was worth sharing  ;D


Bush: Putin 'dissed' our pet, said his dog was 'bigger, stronger, faster'


“As you know, our dear dog Barney, who had a special place in my heart — Putin dissed him and said, ‘You call it a dog?’’’ Bush told Hager.
He continued: “A year later, your mom and I go to visit and Vladimir says, ‘Would you like to meet my dog?’ Out bounds this huge hound, obviously much bigger than a Scottish terrier, and Putin looks at me and says, ‘Bigger, stronger and faster than Barney.




http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-w-bush-says-putin-dissed-his-dog-barney-n71841
lol reminds me when putin had a sitdowm with angela merkel who he knew was afraid of dogs and let in koni his big dog haha..the pics are priceless
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 06, 2014, 03:13:56 AM
Surfboards, would U like to buy 1 or 2 ?.

Do U realize that 100's of Russian students work in escort business after school hours in Sydney's Eastern suburbs
& hairy Jews from Rose Bay/Bondi (suburbs) fuck them  :P VISIT & SEE with your own eyes.


wow.of a  land with over 140million people 100s of them work in the escortbuisness



mindblowing
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: freespirit on April 06, 2014, 04:58:41 AM
lol reminds me when putin had a sitdowm with angela merkel who he knew was afraid of dogs and let in koni his big dog haha..the pics are priceless

Love to see the pics.   ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 06, 2014, 07:39:49 AM
Love to see the pics.   ;D
im on a shitty phone right now but di a pic google on putin merkel dog and enjoy the pics  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 06, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
wow.of a  land with over 140million people 100s of them work in the escortbuisness



mindblowing

But young Russian pussy is banged by hairy Jews  :D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 07, 2014, 06:05:49 AM

It's not over yet!
City of Donetsk was overtaken by pro-Russia demonstrators and now city council asks Putin to send in peacekeepers  ;D

Legislature of just proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic asks Putin move in peacekeepers


http://en.itar-tass.com/world/726787



Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 07, 2014, 06:08:13 AM
Love to see the pics.   ;D

HAHA, KGB psy ops  ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/955490z.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XfBhF9y.jpg)

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 07, 2014, 06:21:54 AM
Surfboards, would U like to buy 1 or 2 ?.

Do U realize that 100's of Russian students work in escort business after school hours in Sydney's Eastern suburbs
& hairy Jews from Rose Bay/Bondi (suburbs) fuck them  :P VISIT & SEE with your own eyes.

Hardly a Russian concept.
Bro, If some hairy grandma would pay my student loans in exchange of me laying on my back few hours a week you bet I wouldn't hesitate  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 07, 2014, 06:38:58 AM
It's not over yet!
City of Donetsk was overtaken by pro-Russia demonstrators and now city council asks Putin to send in peacekeepers  ;D

Legislature of just proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic asks Putin move in peacekeepers


http://en.itar-tass.com/world/726787



Pro-Russian mob has taken some positions in mainland Ukraine it seems.

And they are apparently armed... so are these covert operatives of Russian military or just demonstrators... no one knows - again   ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/FMcls0P.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BQ9fDr9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dgkHVRc.jpg)



Couple of Sukhoi's flying above Kharkov, Ukraine earlier today (probably Ukrainian ones):
(http://i.imgur.com/V1OVh7g.jpg)

I hope diplomacy prevails.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 07, 2014, 02:34:40 PM
Hardly a Russian concept.
Bro, If some hairy grandma would pay my student loans in exchange of me laying on my back few hours a week you bet I wouldn't hesitate  ;D


So U a Russian Jew  :-\
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: honest on April 07, 2014, 03:21:23 PM
Funny when they were burning and rioting in the capital KIev to over throw the democratically elected government, they were doing it in the name of freedom. Now when a few ruskies do it in areas where the population is mainly ethnic russian and pro russian they are criminals. Always count on the western press and media to tell you how it is. If the eastern part of the ukraine wants separatism from the west should be no problem nato should support it like they did, Kosovo.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 08, 2014, 12:46:08 AM
Funny when they were burning and rioting in the capital KIev to over throw the democratically elected government, they were doing it in the name of freedom. Now when a few ruskies do it in areas where the population is mainly ethnic russian and pro russian they are criminals. Always count on the western press and media to tell you how it is. If the eastern part of the ukraine wants separatism from the west should be no problem nato should support it like they did, Kosovo.

Kosovo is (& was) pro West , so pro NATO.
Those Eastern parts of Ukraine, a supposedly pro East (Russian)  :P NOT pro West.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 08, 2014, 12:30:28 PM
Pro-russians keep building barricades in Donetsk in eastern Ukraine!




Pro-russian mob attacks a bus carrying Ukrainian riot police in Kharkov in eastern Ukraine. Looks pretty intense IMO, they are gaining momentum  :o

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 08, 2014, 01:12:15 PM
Serious accusations from Americans! Looks like US propaganda machine is in full swing. We have not seen anything like this since the cold war, that's for sure.

Kerry warns Russia of tough new sanctions

Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday threatened Russia with tougher economic sanctions if it fails to back down from its chaotic involvement in Ukraine.
 
"What we see from Russia is an illegal and illegitimate effort to destabilize a sovereign state and create a contrived crisis with paid operatives across an international boundary," Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. (AP)


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4508254,00.html




Even if that was true, Russia is just playing Americas own game and now yankee mad  ???


Where #euromaidan  tweets are coming from. Looks like there are plenty of Ukraine experts in USA giving us insight of events  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/7DLfYrT.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 08, 2014, 02:38:15 PM
Serious accusations from Americans! Looks like US propaganda machine is in full swing. We have not seen anything like this since the cold war, that's for sure.



Watch out for Pussy Riot  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 08, 2014, 02:45:32 PM
How did Putin make the Syria thing go away? He should do the same thing here.

I remember Obama, Biden, McCain, and Graham were going nuts like rabid dogs cause no one would allow them to fight alongside terrorists like they did in Libya and so many other countries.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: honest on April 08, 2014, 03:12:32 PM
Destabilising a government bordering Russia, wasn't smart but neither was intervention in Iraq, Syria, Egypt and Libya, they destabilise to exploit, they have already lost face with North Korea and the axis of evil crap, when they didn't attack after he sunk that south korean warship because they had nuclear retaliation capacity, dumbest foreign policy ever to allow the CIA to start motivating bordering states to Russia lets face it they only had to look to Georgia to realise that Putin doesn't follow the script on the new world order.

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 10, 2014, 06:41:06 AM

Russia has been busy in recent days to make itself less vulnerable to US sanctions.


Energy giant Gazprom has almost sealed a massive gas deal with China making it less dependent on trade with EU.
CEO Alexey Miller has been busy in China and the deal is expected to be signed when Putin visits Beijing in the May.

Russia says long-sought China gas supply deal is close

Arkady Dvorkovich, a deputy prime minister, said the sides were close to sealing a deal that would also involve construction of a pipeline to carry 38 billion cubic metres (bcm) of gas a year.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/09/russia-china-gas-idUSL6N0N11XM20140409



Also, Gazprom just bought 100% of the Kyrgyzgaz for 1 dollar (and assumed its debts).

Gazprom buys out Kyrgyzgaz for $1

Gazprom has an exclusive 25-year deal to export gas from Kyrgyzstan, which will also protect the Russian company's investment from nationalization, and allow for the easy transfer of foreign payments connected with the investment.

http://rt.com/business/gazprom-kyrgyzgaz-buys-out-580/


Please notice that Kyrgyztan borders CHina  8)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 10, 2014, 06:50:44 AM
US policies relying on blackmailing and threatening are not working with Russia. Washington needs to come up with a different approach.
Russia pushing it further and is signaling going ahead with massive deal with long time US foe, Iran.

I assume American policy which is forcing Russia to do business with Iran is not very liked in Israel. A shame because Israel had good business prospects with Russia... the drone deal few years back etc. All endangered because US stubborn stance and lack of will to cooperate  :-[


Russia Rejects US Warnings Over Oil Deal With Iran

If Russia reaches the oil-for-goods contract with Iran, it would challenge Western efforts to secure a comprehensive agreement. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Tuesday that Washington could impose sanctions if Russia and Iran move forward with the oil contract.

"We don't think that any unilateral U.S. sanctions, no matter whom they target, are legitimate, and we reject such a stance," deputy FM Ryabkov said.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/russia-rejects-us-warnings-oil-deal-iran-23262165


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 10, 2014, 09:22:44 AM
US policies relying on blackmailing and threatening are not working with Russia. Washington needs to come up with a different approach.
Russia pushing it further and is signaling going ahead with massive deal with long time US foe, Iran.

I assume American policy which is forcing Russia to do business with Iran is not very liked in Israel. A shame because Israel had good business prospects with Russia... the drone deal few years back etc. All endangered because US stubborn stance and lack of will to cooperate  :-[


Russia Rejects US Warnings Over Oil Deal With Iran

If Russia reaches the oil-for-goods contract with Iran, it would challenge Western efforts to secure a comprehensive agreement. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Tuesday that Washington could impose sanctions if Russia and Iran move forward with the oil contract.

"We don't think that any unilateral U.S. sanctions, no matter whom they target, are legitimate, and we reject such a stance," deputy FM Ryabkov said.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/russia-rejects-us-warnings-oil-deal-iran-23262165




Again, Putin is actually helping the American people. Forcing our Federal Government to straighten up.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 10, 2014, 10:05:50 AM
Again, Putin is actually helping the American people. Forcing our Federal Government to straighten up.

Maybe Russia and USA need each other as their foes.
I mean Russia has always been the foe of anglo-american empires.
First it fought with UK in "the great game" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game ) and after the Brits were gone, it faced USA in the "cold war" and is now increasingly antagonizing with it again - although to much lesser degree than previously, but still.

Question is, who will Russia play with once the USA is gone too  ;D


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Meanwhile in Ukraine: Busload of Maidanuts being expelled from city of Odessa by angry mob.
Crazy to think that once this country was the place where the biggest cargo planes in the world were manufactured for Soviet Air force and now it's like this :-\

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 10, 2014, 03:40:08 PM
Nasty,very very nasty anti tank rocket 'officially' demonstrated by Yanks  ;D ;D ;D
I would not like to be Russian tank driver  :P :P :P
Americans, please stop mentally terrorizing little guy in Kremlin with those inventions  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: manuelsonn on April 11, 2014, 12:34:45 AM
Nasty,very very nasty anti tank rocket 'officially' demonstrated by Yanks  ;D ;D ;D
I would not like to be Russian tank driver  :P :P :P
Americans, please stop mentally terrorizing little guy in Kremlin with those inventions  ;D
x2 , stop terorising putin and start bombing ukraine because they dont recognize the right of a majority in a provence.. like it was with serbia and kosovo (teutonig gnikt u really are a filthy dumbass)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 11, 2014, 12:57:57 AM
x2 , stop terorising putin and start bombing ukraine because they dont recognize the right of a majority in a provence.. like it was with serbia and kosovo (teutonig gnikt u really are a filthy dumbass)

 ;D
 ;D
 ;D
Fuck I must be extra pro NATO.

O man this new US rocket is only 20X more nasty than German Tiger in WW2 + I really love American military innovations.

Bring on some nice & sexy Ukrainian pussy to join us or no fair play trophy for U.

Why not giving little guys Medvedev & Vladimir some HGH, perhaps they could grow inch or 2.

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: muscleman-2013 on April 11, 2014, 05:53:20 AM
;D
 ;D
 ;D
Fuck I must be extra pro NATO.

O man this new US rocket is only 20X more nasty than German Tiger in WW2 + I really love American military innovations.

Bring on some nice & sexy Ukrainian pussy to join us or no fair play trophy for U.

Why not giving little guys Medvedev & Vladimir some HGH, perhaps they could grow inch or 2.



Dude, Putin may be flawed, but he is the best hope mankind has.  Get with the program!
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 11, 2014, 02:40:05 PM
Dude, Putin may be flawed, but he is the best hope mankind has.  Get with the program!

NOPE, NATO easily wins !.

Ask Lee Putin to try his luck with any Nato country,  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: The Ugly on April 11, 2014, 08:16:04 PM
It's hard to gauge the intent of a post unless there are adequate emoticons. Thanks, posters.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 12, 2014, 12:29:48 AM
Oh no, hope selling the Chinese the S-400 was not the price for reaching the gaz deal  :(


Putin Approves Sale of S-400 to China

According to a report on the Russian business channel RBK TV, which was reproduced by BBC Monitoring, Russian President Putin has approved the sale of between two and four S-400 air and missile defense systems to China. Such a deal has long been under negotiation, and if approved would make China the first foreign customer of the advanced defense system. Already, China deploys a number of the Soviet-era S-300 defense system.

More importantly, there were widespread concerns in Russian military circles that China would purchase a few of the systems with the intent of stealing the technology and reverse engineering a domestic version. This has been a common problem with military systems Russia has sold to China in the past.

http://thediplomat.com/2014/04/putin-approves-sale-of-s-400-to-china/

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 12, 2014, 12:39:52 AM
Same old strategy, after 5 shots of vodka Russians would sale anything to anyone.
Nazdarovye (?)

 ;D
 ;D
 ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 12, 2014, 12:42:17 AM
Looks like the junta in Kiev is starting to feel the pressure. But is it enough at this point?

Ukrainian prime minister promises more powers to Ukraine's troubled east

Ukraine Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk promised Friday more powers for regions in the east of the country where the cities of Donetsk, Kharkiv and Lugansk have recently seen a number of protests by pro-Russian separatists.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/16867189-ukrainian-prime-minister-promises-more-powers-to-ukraines-troubled-east




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Putin reacts to US comments on the letter he sent to EU leaders.
He said it was "strange" to learn of the US reaction on a Russian letter to the leaders of EU's top gas-consuming nations, as it was in no way designed for Washington's eyes.

“Everybody is used to the fact that our American friends are eavesdropping, but turning to peeping is shabby altogether,” he said.
 ;D


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 12, 2014, 05:44:21 AM
NOPE, NATO easily wins !.

Ask Lee Putin to try his luck with any Nato country,  ;D

I wouldn't be so sure.
Yea, of course conventionally USA would win but I heavily doubt they would do much over some insignificant buffer state if Russia went all retard and crabbed some clay.

Americans Conflicted About Which NATO Countries They'd Defend From Russia: Poll

(http://i.imgur.com/4sQIM70.png)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/americans-nato-poll_n_5069838.html



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AND Pro-Russians take another town in eastern Ukraine right as we speak and are now putting up barricades.
Armed men seized local police station just hours ago.

Pro-Russian gunmen seize key buildings in eastern Ukraine
Armed men storm police station and state security service building in Slavyansk and distribute weapons


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/12/pro-russian-gunmen-storm-police-station-ukraine







(http://i.imgur.com/ayWkNtv.jpg)


HAHA, Russian demonstrator spetsnaz?  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/Ei8hMZM.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 12, 2014, 04:53:15 PM

I wouldn't be so sure.
Yea, of course conventionally USA would win but I heavily doubt they would do much over some insignificant buffer state if Russia went all retard and crabbed some clay.



Hey, "military analyst" U don't have a fucking clue what NATO is.
NATO is military union of 28 countries.You don't fuck with just 1.
Hey "military genius", only recently when NATO was flattening Serbia, Russian military supply for Serbia by air/land was
was blocked by Romania & Bulgaria  ;D Oh how embarrassing for "mighty" vodka army  ;D

So stop STUPIDLY BULLSHITING.


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 13, 2014, 12:45:14 AM
Hey, "military analyst" U don't have a fucking clue what NATO is.
NATO is military union of 28 countries.You don't fuck with just 1.
Hey "military genius", only recently when NATO was flattening Serbia, Russian military supply for Serbia by air/land was
was blocked by Romania & Bulgaria  ;D Oh how embarrassing for "mighty" vodka army  ;D

So stop STUPIDLY BULLSHITING.



you are still talking about russia in the 90s just a couple of years after soviets crash, get with the program. You dont hear me boasting about how great my country swedens army is cause karl XII almost won over russia 400 years ago
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 13, 2014, 01:02:26 AM
Hey, "military analyst" U don't have a fucking clue what NATO is.
NATO is military union of 28 countries.You don't fuck with just 1.
Hey "military genius", only recently when NATO was flattening Serbia, Russian military supply for Serbia by air/land was
was blocked by Romania & Bulgaria  ;D Oh how embarrassing for "mighty" vodka army  ;D

So stop STUPIDLY BULLSHITING.


Keep calm.

In '99 Russia was far from what it is now. Putin was just emerging. Plus Russia needed support for its own campaign in Chechnya which was starting at the same times.
No one would bomb Serbia now. Russia saved Syria and be assured, Serbia would be much more in hearts of Russians.

And I was just posting a poll that was made by Americans published in US media.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 13, 2014, 01:05:04 AM
Keep calm.

In '99 Russia was far from what it is now. Putin was just emerging. Plus Russia needed support for its own campaign in Chechnya which was starting at the same times.
No one would bomb Serbia now. Russia saved Syria and be assured, Serbia would be much more in hearts of Russians.

And I was just posting a poll that made by Americans published in US media.
just ignore that smiley abuser, he dont know what he talks about . I will ignore him from now.

ps keep up the good posting
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 13, 2014, 01:06:15 AM
just ignore that smiley abuser, he dont know what he talks about . I will ignore him from now.

ps keep up the good posting

Yea, he seems to have anger management issues. A shame really because these would be interesting topics to discuss..




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Not working too well for the junta:

Ukraine’s New Government Loses Grip on Control


Saturday protests continued throughout eastern and southern Ukraine. Local authorities and police support the protesters and demands for a federalized Ukrainian constitution with far-reaching regional autonomy. A deadline set by the Interior Ministry has passed without Interior Minister Arsen Avakov being able to implement the promised anti-terrorism crackdown. Meanwhile, the government in Kiev continues losing control in the country’s security as ultra right-wing Pravy Sector called for a general mobilization.

http://nsnbc.me/2014/04/13/ukraines-new-government-loses-grip-on-control/
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 13, 2014, 01:24:59 AM
It's mainly the 'talking heads' who do most of the barking. Under the cover the stances are much more mixed.


France's Le Pen, in Moscow, blames EU for new 'Cold War'

"I am surprised a Cold War on Russia has been declared in the European Union," French National Front leader Le Pen said at a meeting with Sergei Naryshkin, speaker of the Russian parliament's lower house.

"It's not in line with traditional, friendly relations nor with the economic interests of our country or EU countries and harms future relations," Russian news agency Interfax quoted her as saying in its Russian-language service.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/12/us-ukraine-crisis-le-pen-russia-idUSBREA3B09I20140412
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 13, 2014, 01:42:50 AM
It's mainly the 'talking heads' who do most of the barking. Under the cover the stances are much more mixed.


France's Le Pen, in Moscow, blames EU for new 'Cold War'

"I am surprised a Cold War on Russia has been declared in the European Union," French National Front leader Le Pen said at a meeting with Sergei Naryshkin, speaker of the Russian parliament's lower house.

"It's not in line with traditional, friendly relations nor with the economic interests of our country or EU countries and harms future relations," Russian news agency Interfax quoted her as saying in its Russian-language service.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/12/us-ukraine-crisis-le-pen-russia-idUSBREA3B09I20140412


I read that earlier. It's funny how the same people that fiercely oppose national sovereignty for European countries and want to see them over run with Africans are furious over the Ukraine situation.

What's going on in the world is very transparent right now.



Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 13, 2014, 01:48:11 AM
"Ernest 12.04.2014 17:13

Ms Le Pen is not a far right leader, she is a moderate nationalist. President Putin is also a nationalist. There is a struggle taking place in the world between globalists and nationalists. Moderate nationalists support independence and respect between nations, and the globalists support world domination, or as they call it - global governance."
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 13, 2014, 03:14:19 AM
Yea, he seems to have anger management issues. A shame really because these would be interesting topics to discuss..



 ;D like 10 or so "kozaks" drunks attacking female pop group Pussy Riots.

Report me to little guy in Kremlin, o shit I am " :-\"

Anyway, how is Crimean bridge building going on  :D

 ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 13, 2014, 06:43:35 AM

Anyway, how is Crimean bridge building going on  :D

 ;D

Given the current trend of events, there is soon no need for the bridge  ;D
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Ukrainian military column on its way to pro-russia Slavyansk in eastern Ukraine got attacked.
One injured and one dead. It's still very unclear what actually happened but they were apparently stopped before reaching pro-Russia checkpoint on road leading to Slavyansk. Bodies at 1:15



Pro-Russia protesters taking defensive positions earlier today when the Ukrainian raid was supposed to happen near Slavyansk:

(http://i.imgur.com/VFk4c6r.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ikDbusQ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NzOeq8k.jpg)


Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Shockwave on April 13, 2014, 07:28:46 AM
Civil war huh? Russia is going to wind up invading and re - annexing all of Ukraine at this rate.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 13, 2014, 09:52:16 AM
Will Russian government be invited to Bilderberg this year?
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 13, 2014, 03:32:21 PM
Messy 243, tell me why so many old people begs on St.Petersburg/Moscow streets ?
OBW, whats happen to those who demonstrate against midget & co.,
anyway, look up in smile  ;D (Nato drones)

PS.Would Putin build another private zoo for Yanukovic near Moscow ?.

 ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: honest on April 13, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
Messy 243, tell me why so many old people begs on St.Petersburg/Moscow streets ?
OBW, whats happen to those who demonstrate against midget & co.,
anyway, look up in smile  ;D (Nato drones)

PS.Would Putin build another private zoo for Yanukovic near Moscow ?.

 ;D

Why does' an aussie have so much hate for a country that is simply just not falling into the USA new world order, none of the people posting in this thread are russian, we are all just simply against the USA running around the world imposing their will upon everyone and thing. Your turning this into who would win in a war, are you ten or twelve,everyone loses, we live in a world of usa imposed double standards most of us are just commentating about this, as an Australian with no military defence or capability we do realise that in any conflict you would require military assistance from the USA Uk but that shouldn't mean that you should so blindly allow a nation bully and exploit the rest of the world, especially a country who pushed the world to the brink of economic collapse a few years back and now continues to fix its economy by simply printing more money but also insists that the US dollar remains the stable global trading currency, have a voice, a different point of view, but surely your more capable off we have more nukes that you blah blah.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 13, 2014, 11:02:08 PM
Why does' an aussie have so much hate for a country that is simply just not falling into the USA new world order, none of the people posting in this thread are russian, we are all just simply against the USA running around the world imposing their will upon everyone and thing. Your turning this into who would win in a war, are you ten or twelve,everyone loses, we live in a world of usa imposed double standards most of us are just commentating about this, as an Australian with no military defence or capability we do realise that in any conflict you would require military assistance from the USA Uk but that shouldn't mean that you should so blindly allow a nation bully and exploit the rest of the world, especially a country who pushed the world to the brink of economic collapse a few years back and now continues to fix its economy by simply printing more money but also insists that the US dollar remains the stable global trading currency, have a voice, a different point of view, but surely your more capable off we have more nukes that you blah blah.

- I have nothing against Russian land, Putin is just big bully & I support underdog Ukraine
- I love the good old USA , & nothing will change this !.
- U.S. (NATO) & Nato's friends military technology totally outclass Russian 1.
- More Nukes,  ;D ;D
- O, no new war games in Australia very soon: US,Australia & surprise,surprise CHINA  :D
- blah,blah to U too  :)

-OBW, Where a those suppose to be Nazis in Crimea terrorizing local Russian population, nice swastika posters  ;D
 (can U get me 1, thanx )
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 13, 2014, 11:12:05 PM
Today on TV: UN's Security Council debate about situation in Ukraine, wow  :o U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power must be at the least 10x more intelligent than Russian ambassador.
Definitely presidential potential.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: anabolichalo on April 14, 2014, 12:20:35 AM
Civil war huh? Russia is going to wind up invading and re - annexing all of Ukraine at this rate.
thats the plan
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Bosch on April 14, 2014, 01:00:06 AM
Today on TV: UN's Security Council debate about situation in Ukraine, wow  :o U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power must be at the least 10x more intelligent than Russian ambassador.
Definitely presidential potential.


Someone already asked you to put here more facts, not just the rambling thoughts.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 14, 2014, 02:44:38 AM
Someone already asked you to put here more facts, not just the rambling thoughts.

Watch U.N. TV  :)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 14, 2014, 06:13:41 AM
Messy 243, tell me why so many old people begs on St.Petersburg/Moscow streets ?



Because Soviet Union collapsed. People lost the little savings they had, many were foolish and sold their small apartments (which they got from the state during Soviet era) in the 90's for oligarchs to make quick money...
Russia had to create whole new system from the scratch. It's not a socialist state anymore. People are responsible for their own living. Alone getting used to that if you have lived 50 years in totally different world can be very tough.

Plus Moscow and St. Petersburg are relatively expensive cities to live in because there is the new generation which are making good money and live well. For old farts living on minimal pensions, it's too expensive.
These are things you can't fix in a decade. It takes a generation at minimum  :(

But hey, at least Putin's government actually pays the pensions for everyone and has even raised them. Compared to 90's that's huge improvement.





OBW, whats happen to those who demonstrate against midget & co.,



Usually nothing.
Yesterday 5000 people protested against Russian media coverage on Ukraine. Right in heart of Moscow:

About 5,000 Russians, some waving Ukrainian flags, rallied in central Moscow on Sunday to protest at what they say is a government crackdown on independent media intended to stifle debate about the crisis in Ukraine.


http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/04/13/russia-protests-idINDEEA3C09K20140413


Month ago they protested against Russian military action in Ukraine.

(http://i.imgur.com/FVhp3pj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/F1TvSLI.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 14, 2014, 06:22:57 AM
Because Soviet Union collapsed. People lost the little savings they had, many were foolish and sold their small apartments (which they got from the state during Soviet era) in the 90's for oligarchs to make quick money...
Russia had to create whole new system from the scratch. It's not a socialist state anymore. People are responsible for their own living. Alone getting used to that if you have lived 50 years in totally different world can be very tough.

Plus Moscow and St. Petersburg are relatively expensive cities to live in because there is the new generation which are making good money and live well. For old farts living on minimal pensions, it's too expensive.
These are things you can't fix in a decade. It takes a generation at minimum  :(

But hey, at least Putin's government actually pays the pensions for everyone and has even raised them. Compared to 90's that's huge improvement.


if i dont remember wrong you are suomalainen how come you know so much about mother russia?
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 14, 2014, 06:25:36 AM
if i dont remember wrong you are suomalainen how come you know so much about mother russia?

I know plenty about many other countries too  ;D
I read a lot. History and politics are my passion. Addition to bodybuilding of course  :D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 14, 2014, 06:31:16 AM
Kiev was supposed to start a crackdown today.
I just came to home from work and reading the headlines, it's not going too well...

Ukraine crisis: Pro-Russian attack in Ukraine's Horlivka

Pro-Russian activists have attacked another official building in east Ukraine, ignoring a deadline to leave or face eviction by Ukrainian forces.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27018199
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 14, 2014, 06:32:14 AM
I know plenty about many other countries too  ;D
I read a lot. History and politics are my passion. Addition to bodybuilding of course  :D
you forgot to put no homo after bodybuilding lol

cool, my family is from torneå and outside oulu but they must have hated me before i was born because they choose to raise me in sweden
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 14, 2014, 07:06:43 AM
you forgot to put no homo after bodybuilding lol

cool, my family is from torneå and outside oulu but they must have hated me before i was born because they choose to raise me in sweden

Oh, your family is Finnish!
Family of my uncle moved to Sweden too some decades ago. They live in Umeå, I think. Fukers always have brand new big Volvo's due to lower car prices and better wages there  ;D

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 14, 2014, 07:49:24 AM
Oh, your family is Finnish!
Family of my uncle moved to Sweden too some decades ago. They live in Umeå, I think. Fukers always have brand new big Volvo's due to lower car prices and better wages there  ;D


haha yes  i live 250 km from your uncle then, finnish carprices are ridicilous
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 14, 2014, 07:57:55 AM
Civil war huh? Russia is going to wind up invading and re - annexing all of Ukraine at this rate.

Maybe a bit surprising at this point but no one seems to believe in full blown civil war. After all, both sides appear reluctant to open the can of worms. Although in tense situation like this too eager kid with a bad trigger discipline is all it takes to flame the shit up...so nothing is sure.


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Reports from Slavyansk region that pro-russian have took over the local 'airport'.
Putin's spoke person Peskov said earlier: “He is getting a lot of appeals addressed personally to him, asking him to intervene in one way or another. He is monitoring the situation in Ukraine with great concern.”

Now that local airport is secured, it would be possible for Russia to fly in the troops. After all, that's how it started in Crimea: soldiers first appeared at the airports.

But seeing how the airport looks I'm not sure if even Ilyushin can land on it...
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 14, 2014, 08:04:47 AM
haha yes  i live 250 km from your uncle then, finnish carprices are ridicilous

Do you speak Finnish?
Jag pratar Svenska, men bara lite.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 14, 2014, 08:29:59 AM
Do you speak Finnish?
Jag pratar Svenska, men bara lite.
i did when i was little, before i learned swedish, but my littlebrother had speaking disabilitys so we only spoke swedish in my house from he was 2 years old so i forgot most of my finnish, it was to much for him to hear both swedish and finnish. but i can speak alittle but understand finnish little better then i can speak. witch is a shame al my relatives are in finland still and their swedish is not the best
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 14, 2014, 12:35:48 PM
How did "godless" Russia end up being the defender of traditionalism & Christianity? While the U.S. and Europe are looking so much like the USSR?

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 14, 2014, 12:36:59 PM
(http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/327f13611d.jpg)
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Bosch on April 14, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
How did "godless" Russia end up being the defender of traditionalism & Christianity? While the U.S. and Europe are looking so much like the USSR?



Russia never was "godless", you can say religion was neglected at USSR, but in general it never was denied by people. But since USSR has collapsed, religion always was supported at official level too.

I like the course Russia has taken - to support traditional values and negate eastern influence like gay marriages, legalization of drugs and black presidents.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 14, 2014, 02:55:29 PM
Oh, your family is Finnish!
Family of my uncle moved to Sweden too some decades ago. They live in Umeå, I think. Fukers always have brand new big Volvo's due to lower car prices and better wages there  ;D

 

Anti patriotic comment about better living standard reported.
Please don't tell me that U would choose Harley-Davidson bike over Ural  >:(
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 14, 2014, 03:01:46 PM
haha yes  i live 250 km from your uncle then, finnish carprices are ridicilous

Simo Hayha is my favourite Finnish.
What a legend in snipers 'sport'
505 dead Russians.

 :)
 :o
 :o
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Shockwave on April 14, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
(http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/327f13611d.jpg)

Loooooooouuuuuuuuullllll zzz-zzzz
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Nomad on April 14, 2014, 05:14:49 PM
Team Putty Put.

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: The Ugly on April 14, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Team Emoticon.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 14, 2014, 10:04:48 PM
Team Emoticon.

lol
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 15, 2014, 12:41:58 AM
Brand new AK47 (still oiled) in hands of pro Russians in Ukraine  ::)
No "Russian" involvements, yeah right Vladimir Vladimirovic  :P
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 15, 2014, 12:50:19 AM
Simo Hayha is my favourite Finnish.
What a legend in snipers 'sport'
505 dead Russians.

 :)
 :o
 :o
haha yea quite a legend that man
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: anabolichalo on April 15, 2014, 02:52:25 AM
(http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/327f13611d.jpg)
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahaha
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 15, 2014, 03:06:46 AM
haha yea quite a legend that man

There was Finish film about him & other Finish snipers, Do U know original title ?.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 15, 2014, 03:18:35 AM
There was Finish film about him & other Finish snipers, Do U know original title ?.
no havent seen that, let me know if you find out....my grandads face was full of deep scares and when i was 15 just before he died he told me it was nazis that  did that  to him.
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 15, 2014, 03:31:10 AM
no havent seen that, let me know if you find out....my grandads face was full of deep scares and when i was 15 just before he died he told me it was nazis that  did that  to him.

It was on Sydney's SBS - TV about 3-4 years ago, could be 'White Dead' ?, definitely Finish film.
I'll see .........
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 15, 2014, 05:01:09 AM
Kiev says it has launched full scale crackdown on protests in eastern Ukraine.

Ukraine says Donetsk 'anti-terror operation' under way

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27035196

Kievan armor seen on the move:
(http://i.imgur.com/jllafPi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/F5Re6H4.jpg)




Luckily Pro-Russian protesters seem to be better equipped:

(http://i.imgur.com/CRrowEy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/06qztZg.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/MldXHnP.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/pNFI01N.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/NBkD9A0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6rVCJxD.jpg)


Pro-Russian protesters move Ukrainian insignia from one of the captured governmental buildings in eastern Ukraine (don't know precise location):
(http://i.imgur.com/mjTgmVA.jpg)

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: mass243 on April 15, 2014, 08:25:31 AM
Impossible to know what is true anymore. Some say Ukrainian AF has attacked the captured airport!

At least their fighters are evidently in air:
(http://i.imgur.com/YuE1jAm.jpg)



(http://i.imgur.com/aT6mNGb.jpg)




What is the role of CIA in this military operation against protesters in eastern Ukraine?

"We don't normally comment on the CIA director's travel but given the extraordinary circumstances in this case and the false claims being leveled by the Russians at the CIA we can confirm that the director was in Kiev as part of a trip to Europe," White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/14/john-brennan-ukraine_n_5147869.html
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Skeletor on April 15, 2014, 01:25:15 PM
Russian Lada 'chases tank in Sloviansk'



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27042646
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 15, 2014, 07:05:59 PM
messy234, people in Germany,Canada,Italy,Australia,USA, etc,.etc,. have TV sets too ..........

Anyway how is gay icon Putin lately ............

 ;D
 ;D

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: freespirit on April 16, 2014, 10:01:20 AM
http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/15-04-2014/127367-washington_world_war-0/
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Teutonic Knight on April 18, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
4 hours of Putin on Russian TV , for fuck sake Vladimir you can do better ..... :P
- a few weeks ago he told media: NO Russian troops in Crimea & yesterday contradicted himself  ;D
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 01, 2014, 08:52:26 PM
 :o :o :o

Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway'


by M.E. Synon 1 May 2014, 4:18 AM PDT 72 post a comment

In a crass and ill-timed intervention, the unelected president of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy has warned Vladimir Putin that the EU intends ultimately to control every country on the western flank of Russia.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/01/van-rompuy-says-europe-will-expand-without-public-backing
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 01, 2014, 08:53:46 PM
IMF Demands Ukraine Risk World War 3 in Return For Bailout Money

Globalists desperate to loan shark another country into debt slavery

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
May 1, 2014

The IMF has told Kiev that if it doesn’t defend eastern areas of Ukraine against pro-Russian forces, or in other words risk going to war with Russia and starting World War 3, that a planned $17 billion dollar bailout package will have to be “redesigned”.

(http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/may2014/010514lag.jpg)

http://www.infowars.com/imf-demands-ukraine-risk-world-war-3-in-return-for-bailout-money/

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Skeletor on May 01, 2014, 09:28:13 PM
:o :o :o

Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway'


by M.E. Synon 1 May 2014, 4:18 AM PDT 72 post a comment

In a crass and ill-timed intervention, the unelected president of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy has warned Vladimir Putin that the EU intends ultimately to control every country on the western flank of Russia.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/01/van-rompuy-says-europe-will-expand-without-public-backing

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 01, 2014, 09:55:58 PM


It's really refreshing to see a politician on OUR side. Hope he goes far!!!
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: anabolichalo on May 02, 2014, 01:11:46 AM


 ;D ;D ;D

what does putin think of this video
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 02, 2014, 02:27:49 PM
Why isn't this breaking news on US MSM? ???

38 ethnic Russians massacred by Ukranian criminals. Crime against humanity, the people the west is backing...

38 people die after radicals set Trade Unions House on fire in Ukraine's Odessa

http://rt.com/news/156480-odessa-fire-protesters-dead/
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: honest on May 03, 2014, 04:57:27 AM
Hopefully Putin will now send troops in to defend the ethnic Russian territories, Uncle Sam and his global agenda has to be contained,
Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Griffith on May 03, 2014, 06:18:46 AM
Time for the EU to send in peace-keeping forces to protect Ukraine before Russia does.

Can also put some army and missile bases there to protect the people.

And make them part of EU.

 ;D

Title: Re: Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia
Post by: Anabol on May 04, 2014, 05:51:16 AM
Yeah, PEACEfull demonstration and eurointegration.
 Does Europe really want's this ?  :o