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Based on how red his face was this is no shocker, however, you would think he was being seen by a Dr at his age (and past career).
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/04/16/ultimate-warrior-died-from-cardiovascular-disease/20870159/?ncid=webmail1
Obit Ultimate Warrior
FILE - In this April 5, 2014 file photo provided by the WWE, James Hellwig, aka The Ultimate Warrior, is escorted by his daughters to the stage during the WWE Hall of Fame Induction at the Smoothie King Center in New Orleans. The WWE said Hellwig, one of pro wrestling's biggest stars in the late 1980s, died Tuesday, April 8, 2014. He was 54. (Jonathan Bachman/AP Images for WWE, File)
PHOENIX (AP) -- Authorities in Phoenix say former pro wrestler The Ultimate Warrior died of cardiovascular disease.
Maricopa County spokeswoman Cari Gerchick says that's the finding from an autopsy conducted Thursday by the county Medical Examiner's Office.
The 54-year-old wrestler's given name was James Hellwig. He collapsed April 8 while walking with his wife to their car at a Scottsdale hotel and was pronounced dead at a hospital.
Scottsdale police have said there were no signs of foul play.
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Based on how red his face was this is no shocker
There is a long list of things that can cause a person to have a red face. Cardiovascular disease is near the bottom of the list. The vast majority of people with cardiovascular disease show no outward symptoms at all. That's why cardiovascular disease is known as 'the silent killer'.
Speaking about wrestlers with red faces, I saw Rick Flair at Tampa Airport a few years back. His face was so red it looked as though he had severe sunburn. But apparently that's just his typical look.
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There is a long list of things that can cause a person to have a red face. Cardiovascular disease is near the bottom of the list. The vast majority of people with cardiovascular disease or severe high blood pressure show no outward symptoms at all. That's why cardiovascular disease is known as 'the silent killer'.
Facial flushing is a symptom of hypertension and he exhibited shortness of breath when speaking. There are usually some signs of heart disease , however, it is silent when no blood work is done, bp goes unchecked and subtle symptoms are ignored.
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Facial flushing is a symptom of hypertension and he exhibited shortness of breath when speaking. There are usually some signs of heart disease , however, it is silent when no blood work is done, bp goes unchecked and subtle symptoms are ignored.
Facial flushing is not a direct symptom of Hypertension per se, because Hypertension (high blood pressure) is for the most part a symptomless condition. There are no direct symptoms directly correlated with hypertension. You can have facial flushing and hypertension, but a direct correlation between the two does not exist. When it comes to dropping dead from cardiovascular disease itself (heart attack), then there are more correlated signs to watch for when a heart attack takes place. i.e. onset of chest pain, numbness in arms/legs, shortness of breath, etc. Some say Warrior exhibited shortness of breath. If Warrior had gone to a hospital after experiencing shortness of breath, and Doctors ran an ECG and blood enzyme test, it's possible they could have done further tests to find out where specifically the issue was. Problem is, cardiovascular disease manifests itself in many forms. i.e. blood clots in arms, legs. clots in vessels in heart, clots in vessels in brain. Even malformations of the heart stemming at birth. Problem is, your basic check up with your Doctor can reveal you are perfectly healthy according to 'the numbers', and an hour later things can suddenly change and you can drop dead. Doctors rarely perform more advanced screening such as yearly Coronary Calcium Scans on people, unless they are wealthy, high paid athletes, or Presidents.
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Based on how red his face was this is no shocker, however, you would think he was being seen by a Dr at his age (and past career).
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/04/16/ultimate-warrior-died-from-cardiovascular-disease/20870159/?ncid=webmail1
Obit Ultimate Warrior
FILE - In this April 5, 2014 file photo provided by the WWE, James Hellwig, aka The Ultimate Warrior, is escorted by his daughters to the stage during the WWE Hall of Fame Induction at the Smoothie King Center in New Orleans. The WWE said Hellwig, one of pro wrestling's biggest stars in the late 1980s, died Tuesday, April 8, 2014. He was 54. (Jonathan Bachman/AP Images for WWE, File)
PHOENIX (AP) -- Authorities in Phoenix say former pro wrestler The Ultimate Warrior died of cardiovascular disease.
Maricopa County spokeswoman Cari Gerchick says that's the finding from an autopsy conducted Thursday by the county Medical Examiner's Office.
The 54-year-old wrestler's given name was James Hellwig. He collapsed April 8 while walking with his wife to their car at a Scottsdale hotel and was pronounced dead at a hospital.
Scottsdale police have said there were no signs of foul play.
;D
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Anyone remember this book
I think this is Hellwig on the cover
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Anyone remember this book
I think this is Hellwig on the cover
Juliette Bergman, inset.
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Anyone remember this book
I think this is Hellwig on the cover
i've got it in my collection, didn't know the connection when i was a little kid of 5 or 6 i went to see the ultimate warrior at a unclaimed freight opening when my place in line came up all i got was a manly handshake,there was that many people there ran out of pics. had i known would have taken the book. course he may have kayfabed me, who knows?
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Juliette Bergman, inset.
yep.
the funny part is that neither one trained using Dardens "super high intensity" technique
I think Bergman was a chain smoker too
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Facial flushing is not a direct symptom of Hypertension per se, because Hypertension (high blood pressure) is for the most part a symptomless condition. There are no direct symptoms directly correlated with hypertension. You can have facial flushing and hypertension, but a direct correlation between the two does not exist. When it comes to dropping dead from cardiovascular disease itself (heart attack), then there are more correlated signs to watch for when a heart attack takes place. i.e. onset of chest pain, numbness in arms/legs, shortness of breath, etc. Some say Warrior exhibited shortness of breath. If Warrior had gone to a hospital after experiencing shortness of breath, and Doctors ran an ECG and blood enzyme test, it's possible they could have done further tests to find out where specifically the issue was. Problem is, cardiovascular disease manifests itself in many forms. i.e. blood clots in arms, legs. clots in vessels in heart, clots in vessels in brain. Even malformations of the heart stemming at birth. Problem is, your basic check up with your Doctor can reveal you are perfectly healthy according to 'the numbers', and an hour later things can suddenly change and you can drop dead. Doctors rarely perform more advanced screening such as yearly Coronary Calcium Scans on people, unless they are wealthy, high paid athletes, or Presidents.
I do a bi annual coronary calcium score test, anyone whos taken steroids in their life should, it gives you a degree of predictability when assessing future cardiac risk,Blood work and stress tests will usually only become negative when heart disease is at a very late stage, you need to get in early and make lifestyle changes and give yourself every opportunity, in saying that you can do everything properly and be gone as quick you didnt as well in a lot of cases.
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Juliette Bergman, inset.
Hellwig on the Cover.
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Anyone remember this book
I think this is Hellwig on the cover
Pretty sure it's Chris Duffy
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Pretty sure it's Chris Duffy
It's Hellwig
Maybe you've got Duffy on your mind
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Pretty sure it's Chris Duffy
no it's hellwig, he's also in the book along with steve borden aka sting the rassler.
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no it's hellwig, he's also in the book along with steve borden aka sting the rassler.
I forgot about that guy
This book came out in 86 and I remember buying it when i was in college (completely naive about how these guys actually trained and more importantly what magic "supplements" they were taking)
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Yup, it's Hellwig.
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Juliette Bergman, inset.
Beautiful in Casablanca.
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I do a bi annual coronary calcium score test, anyone whos taken steroids in their life should, it gives you a degree of predictability when assessing future cardiac risk,Blood work and stress tests will usually only become negative when heart disease is at a very late stage, you need to get in early and make lifestyle changes and give yourself every opportunity, in saying that you can do everything properly and be gone as quick you didnt as well in a lot of cases.
interesting....does insurance usually cover this kind of testing? or whats the costs?
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Beautiful in Casablanca.
Funny guy. I felt she was better in Hitchcock's 'Notorious.' That one had better calf and tri shots. ;D
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You should have your sugar levels checked, triglycerides (blood fats), cholesterol, HDL, LDL and their ratios, blood pressure, and cardiac inflammation through a crp test. Resting heart rate is another heart health indicator. The stronger the heart muscle the slower it is at rest. Many people with high blood pressure do flush red, not all.
It might be a silent killer but many times the signs are ignored or not noticed. I know a guy that would get exhausted walking on a treadmill at a good clip quickly. His response was look a me I lift heavy weights. I'm just not an endurance athlete. I would say having no endurance for this guy was an indicator because he had a heart attack lifting weights. There are basically two types of heart attacks. Simplistically speaking there is a clog or an electrical short.
Testosterone replacement law suits are flying now because a study has shown they increase the risk of heart attacks. They are unsure of the mechanism but some speculate it thickens the blood. If this is true imagine the increased risk taking recreational bodybuilding amounts especially if you are in your 40's or 50's?
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Funny guy. I felt she was better in Hitchcock's 'Notorious.' That one had better calf and tri shots. ;D
I just went with the more popular reference. I'm sure you're right.
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Hellwig on the cover.
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GetBig on the cover ;)
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GetBig on the cover ;)
LOL - I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it
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Anyone remember this book
I think this is Hellwig on the cover
Of course it's Warrior. Knew it all along.
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Of course it's Warrior. Knew it all along.
Seems like only Joe "sees" Chris Duffy
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Based on how red his face was this is no shocker, however, you would think he was being seen by a Dr at his age (and past career).
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/04/16/ultimate-warrior-died-from-cardiovascular-disease/20870159/?ncid=webmail1
Obit Ultimate Warrior
FILE - In this April 5, 2014 file photo provided by the WWE, James Hellwig, aka The Ultimate Warrior, is escorted by his daughters to the stage during the WWE Hall of Fame Induction at the Smoothie King Center in New Orleans. The WWE said Hellwig, one of pro wrestling's biggest stars in the late 1980s, died Tuesday, April 8, 2014. He was 54. (Jonathan Bachman/AP Images for WWE, File)
PHOENIX (AP) -- Authorities in Phoenix say former pro wrestler The Ultimate Warrior died of cardiovascular disease.
Maricopa County spokeswoman Cari Gerchick says that's the finding from an autopsy conducted Thursday by the county Medical Examiner's Office.
The 54-year-old wrestler's given name was James Hellwig. He collapsed April 8 while walking with his wife to their car at a Scottsdale hotel and was pronounced dead at a hospital.
Scottsdale police have said there were no signs of foul play.
Given the anecdotal evidence we have now regarding Testosterone and HRT, I'm wondering whether it's a good idea.
Carrying around extra muscle mass usually leads to an enlarged heart. Even if you keep cardio-fit, I wonder if it's only delaying the inevitable premature death from cardiovascular disease.
There's only two ways to look at this. Live it up and realize you may be cutting twenty years off your lifespan if you stay on HRT or remain natural and stick to supplements.
Dying at fifty due to AAS and drug abuse isn't the way to go out.........not collapsing in front of your wife walking out of a hotel in Scottsdale.
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interesting....does insurance usually cover this kind of testing? or whats the costs?
It doesnt usually costs me about $350 out of pocket, steroid users usually register a score years before they would if they hadnt used, the effect of steroids on the natural levels of cholesterol seem to accelerate hardening of the arteries in saying that most cardiologists still believe family history is a huge factor.
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Testosterone replacement law suits are flying now because a study has shown they increase the risk of heart attacks. They are unsure of the mechanism but some speculate it thickens the blood. If this is true imagine the increased risk taking recreational bodybuilding amounts especially if you are in your 40's or 50's?
hemochromatosis is a side effect of TRT, no doubt it thickens your blood, if you insist on using it it needs to be combined with venesection or donation of blood at least a few times per year, again some people are genetically pre dispositioned towards things more than others, similar could be said to people who have prostate issues in their gene pool. I have been a user in the past but have changed my mind based on forming my own point of view on both pro and against information and my own set of personal circumstances, which is what I would encourage anyone to do, but using blindly shouldnt been an excuse anymore the science is there to assist you with whatever you choose to do,