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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: OneMoreRep on August 28, 2013, 07:28:30 AM
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It was brought to my attention this morning, as I sipped on my cappuccino that some of you felt it was a little unfair to not allow "everyone" to bother or troll ukjeff as he spoke about his particular dietary methods.
That said, I will post a simple exchange I had with another member, keeping his identity undisclosed. You (the GetBig family) can decide whether the topic discussed makes sense, after all, we moderators are here to serve you as a whole.
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whats with the no one can say anything negative to uk jeff in his thread shit
are you going to start heavily moderating the board now
the lack of mod interference is what makes get big what it is
You need to calm down. You can't just take every little thing you read to heart and then go on an avalanche of emotions.
There was a thread made about Jeff whereby many people complained regarding his trolling. Some people suggested, very aggressively might I add, that he should be banned.
Here's the thread, I'm sure you remember it, as you participated in it:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=491655.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=491655.0)
Main Issue: Jeff trolls incessantly and because of which derails threads in the process, hence why he should be banned.
Problem with the issue brought up: Trolling is not against forum rules.
That said, it was made pretty clear yesterday (by me), that if a person like no one, Galeniko or OneTimeHard creates a thread chronicling their diet or contest prep, that it would remain centered around the subject at hand, as to not lose the point of the thread to begin with. In order for the thread to remain centered around the subject at hand, trolling material from Jeff, Yagr, the organization or whomever decides to act like an idiot will be removed. Why would we remove it? Simple, because YOU guys (not us mods on the G&O) want it done that way, as evidenced by:
Ron, is it not enough that someone says they will keep trolling around the clock and ruin every single thread until they get banned, is that not enough and he is actually doing it as well. Those were the exact words used, go check for yourself.
There are a lot of people that come on here Ron for specific DIETING knowledge, getbig has become a board were everyone comes to for dieting advise, I know this because so many have joined on account of Gal, no one and myself for this reason alone.
Now information can not be found cause of jeff cluttering the boards with his round the clock feuds and deliberately doing so, so no body can access our dieting strategies and protocols.
I am not one to complain but getbig has it's time to be entertainment and funny moments (there are lots of thread for that) but it also has a time were knowledge and experience is shared among us serious lifters, this is our home, don't allow a jerk to ruin for us.
So, in light of what the greater masses want, we have determined (Grant, Princess and I) that things need to be fair and balanced. If Jeff is no longer allowed to destroy quality threads (Threads about serious aspects of bodybuilding) with his incessant trolling, then likewise, you guys aren't able to destroy his threads that are also serious in nature.
In other words, you guys can't expect us to heavily moderate Jeff when he trolls you guys to death and then not expect us to moderate you guys when you troll him to death. One thing Jeff is not, is dumb. He knows how to develop a very coherent argument and can debate the vast majority here ad nauseum. So, in order to defeat a seasoned troll, you need to apply the rules in a consistent fashion that doesn't allow for a loophole to be found in our justification of rule employment.
Does this mean that no trolling is allowed on the forum? Absolutely not. Part of a huge cornerstone of GetBig's greatness circles around the popular trolling seen on this forum. We enjoy trolling here, because it's funny, leads to great relationships being formed and adds an element of chaos that is often very entertaining.
So, if there are random threads revolving around gossip, rumors or just different variety that doesn't qualify as high-quality material, then the trolling is just fine. That said, NOT every thread here can revolve around the personal feuds between Jeff and everyone else. This isn't the UkJeff show and by allowing yourselves to get sucked into his trolling methods, you are ALL proving that he has gotten the better of you.
So, to bring this debate to a close, realize that in order for the pendulum to swing evenly, we moderators have to be fair in protecting Jeff's rights, just as we protect your rights.
Does this sound fair enough to everyone?
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Is there a way to summuraize?
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No, its not "fair".
Its not a black/white situation. We excpect the mods to have at least some discretion to know when the trolling is ok or when it is specifically trying to destroy something good on the board.
Otherwise why do we need "mods" here anyways?
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You don't have to post here long to realize that ukjeff is a special kind of miserable human being.
That's not trolling, there's hate and jealousy coming through loud and clear in his posting.
I'm sure he's real popular with his co-workers.
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neither you nor anyone else on getbig understand trolls. Ignore the fuckers and they go away. But starting threads about them just adds fuel to their fire. Trolls are attention whores and thrive on people getting mad and upset and starting threads about them. Ignore the shit stains and they eventually wash themselves out.
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Is there a way to summuraize?
Sure.
If you don't want ukjeff to derail threads by trolling incessantly, then you should also extend the same courtesy to him and, in turn, not derail his serious threads.
How does this work? Simple, if he starts to derail serious threads by reeling you guys into a personal feud of sorts, his posts will get removed. Likewise, if you guys start to derail his serious threads, your posts will be removed.
On the other hand, if the thread on hand is not of "serious" nature (which the vast majority of our threads are not) trolling can continue, as it will serve as one of the main elements of entertainment and is not against the rules.
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No, its not "fair".
Its not a black/white situation. We excpect the mods to have at least some discretion to know when the trolling is ok or when it is specifically trying to destroy something good on the board.
Otherwise why do we need "mods" here anyways?
That's exactly the purpose of what I posted.
We the moderators have the discretion of knowing when a thread is a "good" thread with material that helps the members, as is the case with Gal & no one's diet threads or OTH 60-day diet threads.
What happened to OTH's 60-day diet thread? It got derailed due to incessant trolling that sparked personal feuds to once again surface.
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neither you nor anyone else on getbig understand trolls. Ignore the fuckers and they go away. But starting threads about them just adds fuel to their fire. Trolls are attention whores and thrive on people getting mad and upset and starting threads about them. Ignore the shit stains and they eventually wash themselves out.
I understand trolls very well.
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Sure.
If you don't want ukjeff to derail threads by trolling incessantly, then you should also extend the same courtesy to him and, in turn, not derail his serious threads.
How does this work? Simple, if he starts to derail serious threads by reeling you guys into a personal feud of sorts, his posts will get removed. Likewise, if you guys start to derail his serious threads, your posts will be removed.
On the other hand, if the thread on hand is not of "serious" nature (which the vast majority of our threads are not) trolling can continue, as it will serve as one of the main elements of entertainment and is not against the rules.
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Oh I see, yes I been noticing this going on. The other day in fact someone posted a bunch of unrelated spam and pictures in several threads, that had nothing to do with topic. I found this disturbing.
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I am "trolling no more"
I have decided to show the forum that I am not really some kind of hate riddled deranged psychopath. :o
I can actually contribute and add value.
You are now getting the real me as opposed to the character I was playing in the past.
ukjeff ;)
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The only way to get rid of trolls is to completely ignore their every post even the serious ones. That's why i don't even respond to 1/4 of the people on this site. Once they realize they aren't "trolling" anyone they will stop or go away. The biggest problem with Getbig is everyone on here LOVES to argue and get their point across, then along comes a troll who drives them up the wall and it turns into what we have today; a nonstop battle of complete nonsense. One guy is trolling and laughing behind his keyboard and the other is screaming mad about to break his.
It's a vicious cycle. ;D
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The only way to get rid of trolls is to completely ignore their every post even the serious ones. That's why i don't even respond to 1/4 of the people on this site. Once they realize they aren't "trolling" anyone they will stop of go away. The biggest problem with Getbig is everyone on here LOVES to argue and get their point across, then along comes a troll who drives them up the wall and it turns into what we have today; a nonstop battle of complete nonsense. One guy is trolling and laughing behind his keyboard and the other is screaming bad about to break his.
It's a vicious cycle. ;D
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Exactly!
If someone trolls you in a thread and EVERYONE ignores his/her post, that post in turn becomes null and void, as it was not engaged in any fashion. It starts to appear like that of noise after a while..
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If you want you can give me moderator privileges and I will help delete people from here that do things wrong.
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Exactly!
If someone trolls you in a thread and EVERYONE ignores his/her post, that post in turn becomes null and void, as it was not engaged in any fashion. It starts to appear like that of noise after a while..
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I was telling everyone that for weeks ;D
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I am "trolling no more"
I have decided to show the forum that I am not really some kind of hate riddled deranged psychopath. :o
I can actually contribute and add value.
You are now getting the real me as opposed to the character I was playing in the past.
ukjeff ;)
Except you were not playing a character.
As I said before, not even anabolichalo buys your shit :)
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trolls gonna troll
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Except you were not playing a character.
As I said before, not even anabolichalo buys your shit :)
You really need to calm down or we will never get on you know.
If I wasn't playing a character and that was the true me then I should slip back into it shouldn't I?
All you need to do is bide your time. :)
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If you want you can give me moderator privileges and I will help delete people from here that do things wrong.
(http://www.gifcrap.com/g2data/albums/Forum/Jeremiah%20Johnson%20nod.gif)
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We all troll if you say you don't then you are a liar.
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You really need to calm down or we will never get on you know.
If I wasn't playing a character and that was the true me then I should slip back into it shouldn't I?
All you need to do is bide your time. :)
LOL @ cryptic comments ----------------------> textbook passive aggressive <---------------------------
Stop "playing the part" already :)
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We all troll if you say you don't then you are liar.
You are right. That is why I wrote this in my opening post:
Does this mean that no trolling is allowed on the forum? Absolutely not. Part of a huge cornerstone of GetBig's greatness circles around the popular trolling seen on this forum. We enjoy trolling here, because it's funny, leads to great relationships being formed and adds an element of chaos that is often very entertaining.
So, if there are random threads revolving around gossip, rumors or just different variety that doesn't qualify as high-quality material, then the trolling is just fine.
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LOL @ cryptic comments ----------------------> textbook passive aggressive <---------------------------
Stop "playing the part" already :)
Wow, you are better than me at this, I didn't even know I was doing it. :o
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I have more problems with non-contributing morons, like YAGR and his "mononisation" members, who feel the need to attack/stalk other members.
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You are right. That is why I wrote this in my opening post:
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Sorry I missed that OMR.
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TL;Dr but when Jeff trolls the galeniko thread and it becomes a Jeff vs no one argument can you just delete that shit? Ruins a great thread with tons of good info that is helping a lot of people.
Thanks.
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I have more problems with non-contributing morons, like YAGR and his "mononisation" members, who feel the need to attack/stalk other members.
As I understand it the organization is one guy LOL.
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I find unrelated spam in good thread that has good information very distructive. In my opinion it's almost as bad as telling lies.
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(http://galleries.pimproll.com/fmm/pics/25/001.jpg)
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There are specific boards where trolling is not allowed....The Positive Board, The Training Board, the nutrition board....and on. If OTH or anyone else wants a troll free thread I suggest posting on one of those boards and not the G&O. :)
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please, no more porn
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please, no more porn
Outed!
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Outed!
outed as what, eggs the question
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I was only trolling when I started that thread. :D
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please, no more porn
It's only "porn" if you want it to be..
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It's only "porn" if you want it to be..
I feel in little control of this
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I was only trolling when I started that thread. :D
We gotsa troll Groink see going into houses inhabited by hot girls gives us a chase to get some strange.
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Thank you for proving my point.
Edit: haha, too late with deleting fuckwit :-*
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We gotsa troll Groink see going into houses inhabited by hot girls gives us a chase to get some strange.
LMFAO,....i dont know what the hell are you talking about , but that was funny.
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I hate trolls
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(http://galleries.pimproll.com/fmm/pics/25/001.jpg)
Thanks but too old for my liking....both of them.
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LMFAO,....i dont know what the hell are you talking about , but that was funny.
I took notes from Rodney Dangerfield. ;D
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trolls gonna troll
Potatoes gonna potate
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It was brought to my attention this morning, as I sipped on my cappuccino that some of you felt it was a little unfair to not allow "everyone" to bother or troll ukjeff as he spoke about his particular dietary methods.
That said, I will post a simple exchange I had with another member, keeping his identity undisclosed. You (the GetBig family) can decide whether the topic discussed makes sense, after all, we moderators are here to serve you as a whole.
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You need to calm down. You can't just take every little thing you read to heart and then go on an avalanche of emotions.
There was a thread made about Jeff whereby many people complained regarding his trolling. Some people suggested, very aggressively might I add, that he should be banned.
Here's the thread, I'm sure you remember it, as you participated in it:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=491655.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=491655.0)
Main Issue: Jeff trolls incessantly and because of which derails threads in the process, hence why he should be banned.
Problem with the issue brought up: Trolling is not against forum rules.
That said, it was made pretty clear yesterday (by me), that if a person like no one, Galeniko or OneTimeHard creates a thread chronicling their diet or contest prep, that it would remain centered around the subject at hand, as to not lose the point of the thread to begin with. In order for the thread to remain centered around the subject at hand, trolling material from Jeff, Yagr, the organization or whomever decides to act like an idiot will be removed. Why would we remove it? Simple, because YOU guys (not us mods on the G&O) want it done that way, as evidenced by:
So, in light of what the greater masses want, we have determined (Grant, Princess and I) that things need to be fair and balanced. If Jeff is no longer allowed to destroy quality threads (Threads about serious aspects of bodybuilding) with his incessant trolling, then likewise, you guys aren't able to destroy his threads that are also serious in nature.
In other words, you guys can't expect us to heavily moderate Jeff when he trolls you guys to death and then not expect us to moderate you guys when you troll him to death. One thing Jeff is not, is dumb. He knows how to develop a very coherent argument and can debate the vast majority here ad nauseum. So, in order to defeat a seasoned troll, you need to apply the rules in a consistent fashion that doesn't allow for a loophole to be found in our justification of rule employment.
Does this mean that no trolling is allowed on the forum? Absolutely not. Part of a huge cornerstone of GetBig's greatness circles around the popular trolling seen on this forum. We enjoy trolling here, because it's funny, leads to great relationships being formed and adds an element of chaos that is often very entertaining.
So, if there are random threads revolving around gossip, rumors or just different variety that doesn't qualify as high-quality material, then the trolling is just fine. That said, NOT every thread here can revolve around the personal feuds between Jeff and everyone else. This isn't the UkJeff show and by allowing yourselves to get sucked into his trolling methods, you are ALL proving that he has gotten the better of you.
So, to bring this debate to a close, realize that in order for the pendulum to swing evenly, we moderators have to be fair in protecting Jeff's rights, just as we protect your rights.
Does this sound fair enough to everyone?
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Reading this makes it seem like jeff is the victim here, nevertheless I respect OMR and his judgement is always fair and I back him up on everything he says ;)
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Reading this makes it seem like jeff is the victim here, nevertheless I respect OMR and his judgement is always fair and I back him up on everything he says ;)
yep
jeff sure knows how to turn on the water works
that being said if he is more positive i will stop giving him shit
imo he is still playing the game just in a more subtle way
and yes it is obvious from the posting style that the quote from omr is me
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yep
jeff sure knows how to turn on the water works
that being said if he is more positive i will stop giving him shit
imo he is still playing the game just in a more subtle way
and yes it is obvious from the posting style that the quote from omr is me
You old cynic you.
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Just to set the story straight: Dropping Plates has launched bizarre attacks like the one above, accusing guys of being pedophiles with no cause. He evidently did it to an Organization member and now demands he not be treated has he treats others. In other words, he can dish it out, but he can't take it. He becomes noticeably defensive when his pedophelia issues are pointed out.
Asif, why don't you post under your average rim rat name?
Quote whatever you like, pathetic stalker.
For the record, saying "bizarre attacks" is pretty gay (yes understatement)
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You old cynic you.
im from the uk i undertsand your mindset
do you stand by your words below and if you do
do you accept that you lost sight of the entertaining part and just became annoying :)
One more time for OTH as he doesnt seem to grasp it.
I KNOW I ENJOY AND ARGUMENT, ITS WHY IM HERE, I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SAID THAT I JUST TROLL, BUT I TROLL IN A WAY THAT ENTERTAINS OTHERS WHO READ THE FORUM.
In real life I am nothing like I am on here, this is all an act, its not the real me at all.
Oh and me and OMR are fine, we have an understanding.
As soon as you realise this forum section isnt meant to be taken seriously maybe you can join in the fun.
As for any "alliances" they dont exist for me on here, I work alone and that my dear OTH is why you and a few others dont like me, you want me in your little "click".
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In real life I am nothing like I am on here, this is all an act, its not the real me at all.
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im from the uk i undertsand your mindset
do you stand by your words below and if you do
do you accept that you lost sight of the entertaining part and just became annoying :)
One more time for OTH as he doesnt seem to grasp it.
I KNOW I ENJOY AND ARGUMENT, ITS WHY IM HERE, I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SAID THAT I JUST TROLL, BUT I TROLL IN A WAY THAT ENTERTAINS OTHERS WHO READ THE FORUM.
In real life I am nothing like I am on here, this is all an act, its not the real me at all.
Oh and me and OMR are fine, we have an understanding.
As soon as you realise this forum section isnt meant to be taken seriously maybe you can join in the fun.
As for any "alliances" they dont exist for me on here, I work alone and that my dear OTH is why you and a few others dont like me, you want me in your little "click".
Of course I stand by those words, I was trolling, I wasn't interested in doing anything else.
I was just playing a part.
Im now being me, posting my thoughts and ideas through my real personality.
I dont know what you want from me?
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nothing in a word :)
No worries.
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It was brought to my attention this morning, as I sipped on my cappuccino that some of you felt it was a little unfair to not allow "everyone" to bother or troll ukjeff as he spoke about his particular dietary methods.
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TL:/DR
What is it with all this touchy feely shit lately?
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Reading this makes it seem like jeff is the victim here, nevertheless I respect OMR and his judgement is always fair and I back him up on everything he says ;)
I have a slightly different opinion on the matter (which I should've voiced via PM before this thread was made). Yes, total derailment can be a PITA on what would otherwise be a valuable discussion. If someone wants to have a truly, non-trolled valid discussion, then they should post their thread on the appropriate board, NOT the G&O. If you're going to post it on the G&O, then a certain amount of levity is expected. Don't expect it to be all serious.
Since some lengthy threads have been modified to remain within their theme and not moved, it's only "fair" I guess to let this one fly, HOWEVER, I still feel heavy-handed modding should not be done. Of course, vicious attacks and other major violations will be handled accordingly.
There's always whiney complaints that the G&O gets the most traffic, blah, blah blah... as if you can't be troubled to scroll down a bit. If you can be bothered to scroll down to look at porn and nudity, then you can be bothered to visit the appropriate board for other subjects.
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I have a slightly different opinion on the matter (which I should've voiced via PM before this thread was made). Yes, total derailment can be a PITA on what would otherwise be a valuable discussion. If someone wants to have a truly, non-trolled valid discussion, then they should post their thread on the appropriate board, NOT the G&O. If you're going to post it on the G&O, then a certain amount of levity is expected. Don't expect it to be all serious.
Since some lengthy threads have been modified to remain within their theme and not moved, it's only "fair" I guess to let this one fly, HOWEVER, I still feel heavy-handed modding should not be done. Of course, vicious attacks and other major violations will be handled accordingly.
There's always whiney complaints that the G&O gets the most traffic, blah, blah blah... as if you can't be troubled to scroll down a bit. If you can be bothered to scroll down to look at porn and nudity, then you can be bothered to visit the appropriate board for other subjects.
brutal man hating reference to porn
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I have a slightly different opinion on the matter (which I should've voiced via PM before this thread was made). Yes, total derailment can be a PITA on what would otherwise be a valuable discussion. If someone wants to have a truly, non-trolled valid discussion, then they should post their thread on the appropriate board, NOT the G&O. If you're going to post it on the G&O, then a certain amount of levity is expected. Don't expect it to be all serious.
Since some lengthy threads have been modified to remain within their theme and not moved, it's only "fair" I guess to let this one fly, HOWEVER, I still feel heavy-handed modding should not be done. Of course, vicious attacks and other major violations will be handled accordingly.
There's always whiney complaints that the G&O gets the most traffic, blah, blah blah... as if you can't be troubled to scroll down a bit. If you can be bothered to scroll down to look at porn and nudity, then you can be bothered to visit the appropriate board for other subjects.
Crib notes please.....
I didn't make it past her joke about having an opinion. ;D
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As long as Tito24 don't get banned I don't care about nothing.
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As long as Tito24 don't get banned I don't care about nothing.
haha i love this guy ;D
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brutal man hating reference to porn
LOL
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A good troll keeps you guessing and entertained and can spice up a board.
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There are specific boards where trolling is not allowed....The Positive Board, The Training Board, the nutrition board....and on. If OTH or anyone else wants a troll free thread I suggest posting on one of those boards and not the G&O. :)
Fuck me sideways........... :o You have my vote for G&O mod.
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I have a slightly different opinion on the matter (which I should've voiced via PM before this thread was made). Yes, total derailment can be a PITA on what would otherwise be a valuable discussion. If someone wants to have a truly, non-trolled valid discussion, then they should post their thread on the appropriate board, NOT the G&O. If you're going to post it on the G&O, then a certain amount of levity is expected. Don't expect it to be all serious.
Since some lengthy threads have been modified to remain within their theme and not moved, it's only "fair" I guess to let this one fly, HOWEVER, I still feel heavy-handed modding should not be done. Of course, vicious attacks and other major violations will be handled accordingly.
There's always whiney complaints that the G&O gets the most traffic, blah, blah blah... as if you can't be troubled to scroll down a bit. If you can be bothered to scroll down to look at porn and nudity, then you can be bothered to visit the appropriate board for other subjects.
Amen sister!!!!! You have strengthened my faith in our current crop of mods.
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There are specific boards where trolling is not allowed....The Positive Board, The Training Board, the nutrition board....and on. If OTH or anyone else wants a troll free thread I suggest posting on one of those boards and not the G&O. :)
Suggest "this" cankles....... ;D
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Not meant to be funny. If you have an issue you can go shove it up your ass.
Ooooooooooh........angry little fella ain't ya?
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Not meant to be funny. If you have an issue you can go shove it up your ass.
Also see: No value, and just plain stupid.
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Of course I stand by those words, I was trolling, I wasn't interested in doing anything else.
I was just playing a part.
Im now being me, posting my thoughts and ideas through my real personality.
I dont know what you want from me?
How many personalities do you have and how do you know what is your real personality?
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How many personalities do you have and how do you know what is your real personality?
Hi Ron!
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Also see: No value, and just plain stupid.
Irony meter absolutely pegged right now......
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Irony meter absolutely pegged right now......
Really? I like to let my threads/views speak for themselves. Clearly, I am a once in a generation forum talent.
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Really? I like to let my threads/views speak for themselves. Clearly, I am a once in a generation forum talent.
Sure......join a thread on page 72 and claim you had something to do with it. ::)
I hope there is karma in this world and you do end up dying in a fiery auto wreck.
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Sure......join a thread on page 72 and claim you had something to do with it. ::)
I hope there is karma in this world and you do end up dying in a fiery auto wreck.
You must have been home schooled.
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You must have been home schooled.
You must have been sexually abused as a child.
No other plausible explanation.
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I must admit I never clicked on a single diet thread except for ukjeffs
OTH swatting the freedom haters like fruit flies on an over ripe banana
Anyone who requests someone be banned for no good reason should be banned themselves immediately. 8)