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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #500 on: February 06, 2014, 06:56:32 PM »
I'm just applyng what you wrote

If I used the bible to justify my belief I can "see it" as a fact and now it magically becomes a fact and no longer just a belief or opinion
Precisely why religious people are morons.  They believe fiction as fact.

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #501 on: February 06, 2014, 07:02:03 PM »
i hope you realize when you look this old you arent doing much at all at life, your health would be weak, you would fatigue going to the mailbox
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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #502 on: February 06, 2014, 07:02:30 PM »
Precisely why religious people are morons.  They believe fiction as fact.

sounds like you're finally understanding that their beliefs are still just opinions regardless of whether it based on the bible or not

have we finally come to some common ground?


He has no clue what he is doing.  Earlier in this thread, he tried to claim that people who think homosexuality is a sin is just an opinion.  I tried to tell him that people who use the bible as justification, see the bible as fact.  He shut up about it, but I think its hilarious that he tried to use that as an example. (of what, I do not rightly know)

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #503 on: February 06, 2014, 07:29:19 PM »
sounds like you're finally understanding that their beliefs are still just opinions regardless of whether it based on the bible or not

have we finally come to some common ground?


They don`t think its an opinion though.  The best you and I can do is educate them and make them realize the bible is fiction and that it is indeed a crappy opinion to have.  Otherwise, they will continue to believe it as fact.


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #504 on: February 06, 2014, 07:37:38 PM »
They don`t think its an opinion though.  The best you and I can do is educate them and make them realize the bible is fiction and that it is indeed a crappy opinion to have.  Otherwise, they will continue to believe it as fact.



I assume that you're saying that you now agree with me that their beliefs are still just opinions and that, for example, a christians belief that homosexuality is a sin is just an opinion


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #505 on: February 06, 2014, 10:32:06 PM »
I assume that you're saying that you now agree with me that their beliefs are still just opinions and that, for example, a christians belief that homosexuality is a sin is just an opinion


To them, its not an opinion.  They actually believe that shit.

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #506 on: February 06, 2014, 10:43:19 PM »
I assume this is one of your "trolls" that everyone talks about because if not then it means you truly don't understand the difference between and opinion and a fact

Please, enlighten us.  What's the difference?

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #507 on: February 07, 2014, 12:09:30 AM »
Would McDonalds double quarter pounders or their premium angus burgers still taste as good if McD's reduced the sodium content?

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #508 on: February 07, 2014, 12:12:38 AM »
What's the difference in their Angus patties and regular hamburger patties?

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #509 on: February 07, 2014, 12:17:35 AM »
What's the difference in their Angus patties and regular hamburger patties?

angus patties 1/3 lb?

It's been a while...
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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #510 on: February 07, 2014, 12:18:55 AM »
angus patties 1/3 lb?

It's been a while...

Same here

They're bigger but are they higher quality beef?

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #511 on: February 07, 2014, 12:26:00 AM »
Same here

They're bigger but are they higher quality beef?

Same grinded down cheapest ground beef. I only went for angus burgers when I wanted bacon.

I really can't understand adonis though. Of all the fast food places, McDs food is the only fast food I never put in my fridge for later. I'll save Burger King stackers and fries for later but not McDonalds. Even after the microwave Mcburgers just don't taste the same versus fresh. IMO, the burgers, fries or nuggets taste really bad. Very bland and salty.


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #512 on: February 07, 2014, 12:33:58 AM »
Same grinded down cheapest ground beef. I only went for angus burgers when I wanted bacon.

I really can't understand adonis though. Of all the fast food places, McDs food is the only fast food I never put in my fridge for later. I'll save Burger King stackers and fries for later but not McDonalds. Even after the microwave Mcburgers just don't taste the same versus fresh. IMO, the burgers, fries or nuggets taste really bad. Very bland and salty.




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Disgusting Ingredients in McDonald’s Burgers
Michelle Schoffro Cook   September 20, 2013


There’s been a tremendous amount of controversy over McDonald’s burgers since celebrity chef Jamie Oliver demonstrated how meat scraps and sinew are spun in a centrifuge and “washed” with ammonium hydroxide, which has also become known as ”Pink Slime.“ This chemical is used in fertilizers and cleaning products.  According to Oliver it is used in 70 percent of ground beef in the United States but does not require inclusion on ingredient lists because the US Department of Agriculture classifies it as a “process” not an “ingredient” even though residues of this process are left behind in the meat consumed. He says, ”Basically, we‘re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”

Recently, McDonald’s announced that “we made a decision to discontinue the use of ammonia-treated beef in our hamburgers.” But, there is no way to know if it is still in use at McDonald’s, other than to trust McDonald’s to do what it says.  As an aside, McDonald’s reportedly never used pink slime-treated beef in the UK and Ireland, but was comfortable including it in North American burgers.

Before you decide whether you want to trust McDonald’s let’s take a look at ingredients in their burgers (according to the company’s own website) along with some information I’d like to share about these ingredients.

Here are the burger ingredients:

Beef Patty—according to the corporation, it is using 100 percent pure beef.  The moniker “100% pure” actually means nothing.  It may or not be pure. We really don’t know for sure whether McDonald’s is using Pink Slime in its processes and whether its beef is among the 70 percent of ground beef in North America that contains Pink Slime.

Grill Seasoning contains “salt, spice (pepper), sunflower oil (‘as a processing aid’).”  Most sunflower oil used in commercial processes has been heated to extreme temperatures prior to use. This process denatures the oil, causing it to become inflammatory when consumed.

Ketchup—contains “tomato paste (made from fresh ripe tomatoes), liquid sugar, white vinegar, salt, onion powder, and spices.” Liquid sugar is usually high fructose corn syrup which is almost always from genetically-modified corn and has been linked to obesity.  “Spices” can actually mean any number of ingredients, including herbs, but it can also include monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is commonly found in most fast, processed, and even restaurant foods.  Monosodium glutamate is frequently used in laboratories to create obese animals for testing.  Here’s an example of this practice. And another.

Discover the possible ingredient that causes seizures and fibroymalgia pain…

Mustard—”vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, turmeric, spices.”  Again, we have no way of knowing whether “spices” contain MSG, which is a well-established excitotoxin (contrary to what some comments on my other articles have indicated).  Excitotoxins are just what they sound like:  toxic chemicals that literally excite brain and nervous system cells until they die off.  Here are a couple examples for the skeptics: A study in the journal Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology found that MSG significantly increased fibromyalgia pain. Scientists concluded “dietary glutamate may be contributing to FM (fibromyalgia) symptoms in some patients.”  Another study in the journal Brain Research found that giving MSG to animals caused them to have seizures.

Pickle Slices—include “cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, potassium sorbate, potassium aluminum sulphate, natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of turmeric (color).”  Some of these ingredients are fairly obvious.  Potassium sorbate has been shown in human studies to be both genotoxic and mutagenic. That means it damages the genetic material and can cause mutations linked to disease.  Polysorbate 80 is a suspected carcinogen. Turmeric is a spice.

Regular Bun—”enriched wheat flour, water, sugar and/or glucose-fructose, yeast, vegetable oil (soybean and/or canola), salt, calcium sulphate, calcium propionate, monoglycerides, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, and may contain any or all of the following in varying proportions: diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides, BHT, sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate, wheat starch, calcium peroxide, wheat gluten, inactive yeast, sorbitol, dextrin, malted barley flour, ascorbic acid, citric acid, calcium stearate, calcium iodate, silicon dioxide.” Whew! Considering that bread can be made with flour and water (not even yeast is essential since true sourdoughs don’t need it), that’s a disturbing number of ingredients–28 possible ingredients just in the bun!

More about the bun ingredients:

BHT—a known neurotoxin (substance that is toxic to the brain and nervous system), a hormone disruptor, immune system toxin, and irritant to the skin, eyes, and lungs.

Diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides (DATEM)—This is a synthetically-created “stabilizing ingredient” that is usually made from vegetable oils but can also contain animal fat like pork.

Sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate—not much is really known about the safety of this ingredient.  Since it can be sourced from dairy products, there is a potential risk of allergy for those with dairy allergies.

Most of the other ingredients are widely-used in food processing even though there is little research on their long-term and cumulative effects.

The more I research MickeyD’s food, the more I’m definitely NOT lovin’ it!  What about you?  Are you lovin’ it?

Read more: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/disgusting-ingredients-in-mcdonalds-burgers.html#ixzz2sche7wzO




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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #513 on: February 07, 2014, 12:43:18 AM »
Yes, I know what you mean.



Disgusting Ingredients in McDonald’s Burgers
Michelle Schoffro Cook   September 20, 2013


There’s been a tremendous amount of controversy over McDonald’s burgers since celebrity chef Jamie Oliver demonstrated how meat scraps and sinew are spun in a centrifuge and “washed” with ammonium hydroxide, which has also become known as ”Pink Slime.“ This chemical is used in fertilizers and cleaning products.  According to Oliver it is used in 70 percent of ground beef in the United States but does not require inclusion on ingredient lists because the US Department of Agriculture classifies it as a “process” not an “ingredient” even though residues of this process are left behind in the meat consumed. He says, ”Basically, we‘re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”

Recently, McDonald’s announced that “we made a decision to discontinue the use of ammonia-treated beef in our hamburgers.” But, there is no way to know if it is still in use at McDonald’s, other than to trust McDonald’s to do what it says.  As an aside, McDonald’s reportedly never used pink slime-treated beef in the UK and Ireland, but was comfortable including it in North American burgers.

Before you decide whether you want to trust McDonald’s let’s take a look at ingredients in their burgers (according to the company’s own website) along with some information I’d like to share about these ingredients.

Here are the burger ingredients:

Beef Patty—according to the corporation, it is using 100 percent pure beef.  The moniker “100% pure” actually means nothing.  It may or not be pure. We really don’t know for sure whether McDonald’s is using Pink Slime in its processes and whether its beef is among the 70 percent of ground beef in North America that contains Pink Slime.

Grill Seasoning contains “salt, spice (pepper), sunflower oil (‘as a processing aid’).”  Most sunflower oil used in commercial processes has been heated to extreme temperatures prior to use. This process denatures the oil, causing it to become inflammatory when consumed.

Ketchup—contains “tomato paste (made from fresh ripe tomatoes), liquid sugar, white vinegar, salt, onion powder, and spices.” Liquid sugar is usually high fructose corn syrup which is almost always from genetically-modified corn and has been linked to obesity.  “Spices” can actually mean any number of ingredients, including herbs, but it can also include monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is commonly found in most fast, processed, and even restaurant foods.  Monosodium glutamate is frequently used in laboratories to create obese animals for testing.  Here’s an example of this practice. And another.

Discover the possible ingredient that causes seizures and fibroymalgia pain…

Mustard—”vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, turmeric, spices.”  Again, we have no way of knowing whether “spices” contain MSG, which is a well-established excitotoxin (contrary to what some comments on my other articles have indicated).  Excitotoxins are just what they sound like:  toxic chemicals that literally excite brain and nervous system cells until they die off.  Here are a couple examples for the skeptics: A study in the journal Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology found that MSG significantly increased fibromyalgia pain. Scientists concluded “dietary glutamate may be contributing to FM (fibromyalgia) symptoms in some patients.”  Another study in the journal Brain Research found that giving MSG to animals caused them to have seizures.

Pickle Slices—include “cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, potassium sorbate, potassium aluminum sulphate, natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of turmeric (color).”  Some of these ingredients are fairly obvious.  Potassium sorbate has been shown in human studies to be both genotoxic and mutagenic. That means it damages the genetic material and can cause mutations linked to disease.  Polysorbate 80 is a suspected carcinogen. Turmeric is a spice.

Regular Bun—”enriched wheat flour, water, sugar and/or glucose-fructose, yeast, vegetable oil (soybean and/or canola), salt, calcium sulphate, calcium propionate, monoglycerides, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, and may contain any or all of the following in varying proportions: diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides, BHT, sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate, wheat starch, calcium peroxide, wheat gluten, inactive yeast, sorbitol, dextrin, malted barley flour, ascorbic acid, citric acid, calcium stearate, calcium iodate, silicon dioxide.” Whew! Considering that bread can be made with flour and water (not even yeast is essential since true sourdoughs don’t need it), that’s a disturbing number of ingredients–28 possible ingredients just in the bun!

More about the bun ingredients:

BHT—a known neurotoxin (substance that is toxic to the brain and nervous system), a hormone disruptor, immune system toxin, and irritant to the skin, eyes, and lungs.

Diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides (DATEM)—This is a synthetically-created “stabilizing ingredient” that is usually made from vegetable oils but can also contain animal fat like pork.

Sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate—not much is really known about the safety of this ingredient.  Since it can be sourced from dairy products, there is a potential risk of allergy for those with dairy allergies.

Most of the other ingredients are widely-used in food processing even though there is little research on their long-term and cumulative effects.

The more I research MickeyD’s food, the more I’m definitely NOT lovin’ it!  What about you?  Are you lovin’ it?

Read more: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/disgusting-ingredients-in-mcdonalds-burgers.html#ixzz2sche7wzO




Bullshit article.

You don`t like Hunt`s Ketchup which is their supplier?

You don`t like French`s Mustard which is their supplier?

The bun is a higher quality Merita, better than the average supermarket buns you can buy in any grocery store with similar ingredients.

The beef is of high quality.

The pickle slices are standard fare, same pickles you will buy anywhere.


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #514 on: February 07, 2014, 12:46:33 AM »
THE HORROR, PICKLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #515 on: February 07, 2014, 12:47:57 AM »
RUN FOR THE HILLS!  ITS THE EVIL POISON HUNT`S KETCHUP


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #516 on: February 07, 2014, 12:53:34 AM »
Quick put on your gas mask, its a Grocery store Hamburger Bun label, the kind that most people use for their burgers!


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #517 on: February 07, 2014, 01:22:37 AM »
You are smarter than this Roger Bacon.  I know you are!

Thanks TA! It was just an article that came up when I searched "What's in a McDonald's Hamburger.

I'm not a big fan of the chemicals like BHT (if that article is accurate), but I am surprised to see that they're basically homemade hamburgers as far as ingredients go.


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #518 on: February 07, 2014, 01:24:28 AM »
Quick put on your gas mask, its a Grocery store Hamburger Bun label, the kind that most people use for their burgers!


How does shake shack or five guys make there bun?

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #519 on: February 07, 2014, 01:37:58 AM »
How does shake shack or five guys make there bun?
Shake Shack uses my absolute favorite bun in the world!  You can get them in some supermarkets.

Martin`s Potato Rolls


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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #520 on: February 07, 2014, 10:37:05 AM »
Please, enlighten us.  What's the difference?

you really don't know the difference between an opinion and a fact ?

were you home schooled with TA ?

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #521 on: February 07, 2014, 11:13:31 AM »
I can`t find any record of him owning anything Mcdonalds since the 90s, and he sold all his shares then.  Can you help?

Here's his holding today;

 Coca-Cola (KO)
Holding Value: $16.26 billion
Shares: 400,000,000
Stake in company: 9.1 percent

Here's when he bought into McDonalds in the 90's:


Buffett Doubles Stake in McDonald's

SECURITIES | NATION/WORLD

December 06, 1996|Times Staff and Wire Reports











Billionaire investor Warren Buffett disclosed that Berkshire Hathaway Inc., a holding company he controls, doubled its investment in McDonald's Corp. last year. In a year-old filing with the SEC just released, Berkshire disclosed that it held 9.34 million McDonald's shares worth $357.3 million at the end of September 1995. Those holdings are twice the 4.7 million McDonald's shares, valued at $181.9 million, that Berkshire reported holding at the end of June last year. McDonald's stock rose $1.75, after news of the filing was released, to close at $48.13 on NYSE.



Buffett, Who Deems Stocks High, Will Still Keep McDonald's

By FLOYD NORRIS
Published: March 17, 1997




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Warren E. Buffett, the chairman of Berkshire Hathaway and a man whose investment prowess has made him the second-richest man in America, says he thinks that most stocks are overvalued. But he excludes the shares of his own company, and its newly released annual report shows that he has been loading up on shares of the McDonald's Corporation.

At the end of last year, Berkshire Hathaway owned 30.2 million shares of McDonald's, which it purchased at an average cost of $41.96 a share. That gave Berkshire Hathaway a 4.3 percent stake in the fast-food chain. So far, the investment has been profitable, but hardly a barn-burner. The shares closed on Friday at $44.125.

The annual report discloses the McDonald's ownership, which is up sharply from the last reported Berkshire holding in the stock, of 9.34 million shares, at the end of September 1995. But it did not comment on the additional holdings or the reasons for them.

Mr. Buffett, in his letter to shareholders, was much more talkative about the broad stock market. ''You can, of course, pay too much for even the best of businesses,'' he wrote. ''The overpayment risk surfaces periodically and, in our opinion, may now be quite high for the purchasers of nearly all stocks.''



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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #522 on: February 07, 2014, 11:14:18 AM »
And then what happened?   ???

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Re: So after eating 90% clean for the last 4 months, I ate a McDs Double QP...
« Reply #523 on: February 08, 2014, 11:36:45 AM »
you really don't know the difference between an opinion and a fact ?

were you home schooled with TA ?

come on, just answer the question.  it's obvious, right?  so out with it.