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Why is Pete Carroll calling out Mark Sanchez for capitalizing on a great year by turning pro in a draft weak with top QB prospects? Epic sour grapes.
Sanchez has better tools than Leinart (party boy who got beat out by old Kurt Warner) or John David Booty (never a true NFL caliber QB) and is making the best of his situation.
Pete: shut your down mouth and rejoice in the fact that you had Mark for the time you did. He should have started last year in lieu of that bum John David Booty. John David was HORRENDOUS in the Stanford game and potentially cost USC a chance at the national title, thanks to that performance. Many USC insiders felt that Mark should have been starting in lieu of John David (especially considering the fact Booty had a broken finger most of the year).
Mark is physically and mentally ready to play in the NFL and looks to be the best NFL QB prospect out of USC since Carson Palmer.
Hey Pete, ever heard of a guy by the name of Matt Cassell?
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shittin on the guy's stats,
maybe carroll was banking on the guy being there, and now he sees USC not being a top 3 team without him?
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have you seen who's sanchez's replacement is? usc is fucked.
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I'm pissed that he's going for the draft this year. If you followed him this season you would've seen that he was getting better with every game, def. would've been a heisman candidate next year for sure.
I see Carroll's points, but the one thing you have to admit is,
if he waited till next year, he would've been drafted behind McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford, so in that sense i can't blame him :-\
Where that puts the Trojans next year is where I get nervous, I might have to tone down my trash talking ;D
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shittin on the guy's stats,
maybe carroll was banking on the guy being there, and now he sees USC not being a top 3 team without him?
Out of the top 3 would be foreign territory for Carroll at USC ;)
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if he waited till next year, he would've been drafted behind McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford, so in that sense i can't blame him :-\
wow, I didn't konw bradford was staying in school too.
Why aren't these guys chasing the millions? How much can a tebow or bradford really climb in 1 year at this point?
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shittin on the guy's stats,
maybe carroll was banking on the guy being there, and now he sees USC not being a top 3 team without him?
USC is getting the top HS prospect in the entire country next season, QB Matt Barkley. USC is pretty loaded at QB right now, even with Sanchez leaving.
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My guess is Carroll doesn't want Sanchez to wind up an early has-been like Linert. Also after the Rose Bowl Sanchez said he would be back. My guess is someone stuck a big fat contract in his face and couldn't refuse the $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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USC is getting the top HS prospect in the entire country next season, QB Matt Barkley. USC is pretty loaded at QB right now, even with Sanchez leaving.
I HONESTLY hope you're right...but then again, everyone thought we were done when we lost Bush/Leinart 8)
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I'm pissed that he's going for the draft this year. If you followed him this season you would've seen that he was getting better with every game, def. would've been a heisman candidate next year for sure.
I see Carroll's points, but the one thing you have to admit is,
if he waited till next year, he would've been drafted behind McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford, so in that sense i can't blame him :-\
Where that puts the Trojans next year is where I get nervous, I might have to tone down my trash talking ;D
I don't think he would be going behind McCoy, but Tebow and Bradford are very good. Considering the Rose Bowl game and this year's draft, Mark made a very wise decision.
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USC is getting the top HS prospect in the entire country next season, QB Matt Barkley. USC is pretty loaded at QB right now, even with Sanchez leaving.
do you know who jimmy clausen is? big prospects don;t mean shit. clausen was touted as the second coming of moses....he came in with one of nd's top recruiting classes EVER. And look at them, barely breaking .500
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I HONESTLY hope you're right...but then again, everyone thought we were done when we lost Bush/Leinart 8)
Barkley looks SCARY good! USC will reload as usual. Even when it seems impossible, USC finds a way to reload.
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wow, I didn't konw bradford was staying in school too.
Why aren't these guys chasing the millions? How much can a tebow or bradford really climb in 1 year at this point?
Yeah, it's a good point but I guess Bradford knows he's not ready for the NFL. Cause there's no way in hell he's getting that type of offensive line protection in the pros.
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do you know who jimmy clausen is? big prospects don;t mean shit. clausen was touted as the second coming of moses....he came in with one of nd's top recruiting classes EVER. And look at them, barely breaking .500
OK, and? So Clausen didn't pan out....Barkley isn't Clausen.
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Yeah, it's a good point but I guess Bradford knows he's not ready for the NFL. Cause there's no way in hell he's getting that type of offensive line protection in the pros.
He needs to put on some weight too.
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My guess is Carroll doesn't want Sanchez to wind up an early has-been like Linert. Also after the Rose Bowl Sanchez said he would be back. My guess is someone stuck a big fat contract in his face and couldn't refuse the $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
And I don't blame him for that. Remember, if Mark goes in the top 5, he's going to get a lot of GUARANTEED money up front. If he hangs around till next year, he could get injured or have a lesser season. In light of the situation, going pro was a NO-BRAINER.
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Why is Pete Carroll calling out Mark Sanchez for capitalizing on a great year by turning pro in a draft weak with top QB prospects? Epic sour grapes.
Sanchez has better tools than Leinart (party boy who got beat out by old Kurt Warner) or John David Booty (never a true NFL caliber QB) and is making the best of his situation.
Pete: shut your down mouth and rejoice in the fact that you had Mark for the time you did. He should have started last year in lieu of that bum John David Booty. John David was HORRENDOUS in the Stanford game and potentially cost USC a chance at the national title, thanks to that performance. Many USC insiders felt that Mark should have been starting in lieu of John David (especially considering the fact Booty had a broken finger most of the year).
Mark is physically and mentally ready to play in the NFL and looks to be the best NFL QB prospect out of USC since Carson Palmer.
Hey Pete, ever heard of a guy by the name of Matt Cassell?
Sanchez is not ready to play at the NFL level. He will be eventually, but he is going to struggle next year. The NFL is a whole different level.
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Sanchez is not ready to play at the NFL level. He will be eventually, but he is going to struggle next year. The NFL is a whole different level.
Sanchez is certainly more ready than Matt Cassell, isn't he? The NFL is a crapshoot; it's impossible to know who will pan out and who won't. Mark has as good of a chance as anyone to be successful.
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Sanchez is certainly more ready than Matt Cassell, isn't he? The NFL is a crapshoot; it's impossible to know who will pan out and who won't. Mark has as good of a chance as anyone to be successful.
Cassel backed up Brady for four years before he started. He was groomed by the team for four years. I like Sanchez I am basing this on the facts. Also, this is why you're probably wrong:
Draft Countdown Forums - View Single Post - Sam Bradford to Turn Pro?
10 out of 13 QBs drafted in the 1st round between 1998-2005 with less than 35 starts are BUSTS
76.9 % fail rate
23.1 % success rate
2 out of the 13 QBs drafted in the 1st round between 1998-2005 with 35 or more starts are BUSTS
15.3% fail rate
84.7% success rate"
Staying in school is a REALLY good idea for QB.
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Cassel backed up Brady for four years before he started.
Also, this is why your probably wrong,
Draft Countdown Forums - View Single Post - Sam Bradford to Turn Pro?
"10 out of 13 QBs drafted in the 1st round between 1998-2005 with less than 35 starts are BUSTS
76.9 % fail rate
23.1 % success rate
2 out of the 13 QBs drafted in the 1st round between 1998-2005 with 35 or more starts are BUSTS
15.3% fail rate
84.7% success rate"
Staying in school is a REALLY good idea for QB.
What determines whether or not a QB is a bust? Mark has the chance to be drafted high and make a ton of money UP FRONT.
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What determines whether or not a QB is a bust? Mark has the chance to be drafted high and make a ton of money UP FRONT.
I just showed you the stats. You know what a bust is. It's a highly touted player who comes to the pro's and does not live up to their draft position. Almost 80% of college qb's with less than 35 starts over the last ten years failed in the NFL. I know Mark will get a nice bonus, but I think having a productive and long career might be important to him to.
Confidence is such a huge part of the game. If he comes into the NFL and shits his pants for the first year, he could lose whatever confidence he had to start with.
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I just showed you the stats. You know what a bust is. It's a highly touted player who comes to the pro's and does not live up to their draft position. Almost 80% of college qb's with less than 35 starts over the last ten years failed in the NFL. I know Mark will get a nice bonus, but I think have a productive and long career might be important to him to.
I saw the stats and I still don't know what the definition of an NFL bust is. You can't use stats to back up something that lacks a true definition and is backed up by STATS.
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I just showed you the stats. You know what a bust is. It's a highly touted player who comes to the pro's and does not live up to their draft position. Almost 80% of college qb's with less than 35 starts over the last ten years failed in the NFL. I know Mark will get a nice bonus, but I think having a productive and long career might be important to him to.
Confidence is such a huge part of the game. If he comes into the NFL and shits his pants for the first year, he could lose whatever confidence he had to start with.
One more year of college probably won't be the difference of whether or not Mark succeeds or fails in the NFL. This is all an individual thing we're talking about here...and Mark made a good decision based off where will be drafted.
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Even if he stayed this year, NO WAY he gets drafted behind Tebow like some on here are saying. I love Tebow as a college QB. Best ever, but I don't think he translates as well to the NFL as Sanchez. Bradford would be 1, Sanchez 2 and McCoy 3 next year, as far as QB's go.
He is just maximizes off of the Rose Bowl. Nothing wrong with that. If he blew his knee out (again) next year, is ole Pete going to take care of him and his family for the rest of his life? Pete is out for Pete.
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He is just maximizes off of the Rose Bowl. Nothing wrong with that. If he blew his knee out (again) next year, is ole Pete going to take care of him and his family for the rest of his life? Pete is out for Pete.
Well said!
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One more year of college probably won't be the difference of whether or not Mark succeeds or fails in the NFL. This is all an individual thing we're talking about here...and Mark made a good decision based off where will be drafted.
I understand....I am simply basing my opinion on the statistical evidence available over the last ten years. Maybe Sanchez will be an exception to the rule, but there is an 90% chance that he wont.
As the stats showed additional starts in college make a big difference. I hope it works out for him.
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I understand....I am simply basing my opinion on the statistical evidence available over the last ten years. Maybe Sanchez will be an exception to the rule, but there is an 90% chance that he wont.
As the stats showed additional starts in college make a big difference. I hope it works out for him.
90%? Where did you get that from?
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90%? Where did you get that from?
Sorry, 85% or 84.7 is the number (typo). You guys are right in regards to the money aspect of this whole thing.....but, I doubt Sanchez would want to be known as a bust. Being a better player makes him more money in the long run.
10 out of 13 QBs drafted in the 1st round between 1998-2005 with less than 35 starts are BUSTS
76.9 % fail rate
23.1 % success rate
2 out of the 13 QBs drafted in the 1st round between 1998-2005 with 35 or more starts are BUSTS
15.3% fail rate
84.7% success rate"
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Sorry, 85% or 84.7 is the number (typo). You guys are right in regards to the money aspect of this whole thing.....but, I doubt Sanchez would want to be known as a bust. Being a better player makes him more money in the long run.
10 out of 13 QBs drafted in the 1st round between 1998-2005 with less than 35 starts are BUSTS
76.9 % fail rate
23.1 % success rate
2 out of the 13 QBs drafted in the 1st round between 1998-2005 with 35 or more starts are BUSTS
15.3% fail rate
84.7% success rate"
First of all, you can't even quantify what an actual "bust" is. Why are you referencing statistics when you can't even define what a bust is?
Secondly, statistics are a guide, not a rule.
There are also a good number of QBs who have left early and performed well.
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failed NFL QB = still pretty damn rich, retired at 25, with no real long-term injury.
not too shabby!
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do you know who jimmy clausen is? big prospects don;t mean shit. clausen was touted as the second coming of moses....he came in with one of nd's top recruiting classes EVER. And look at them, barely breaking .500
clausen is a true sophomore
as sophomores he is better than brady quinn was
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failed NFL QB = still pretty damn rich, retired at 25, with no real long-term injury.
not too shabby!
I agree 100%! Many of these guys are looking to made some coin while they are young and healthy. Some fans tend to think players hold success on the field as high or higher than financial success. WRONG! It all comes down to getting that paycheck...followed by glory on the field.
I think Mark's success in the NFL depends more on which team drafts him and the players/coaches that surround him than the fact he's leaving school with one year of eligibility left. He's also finishing his degree this spring while preparing for the draft! I think he's going to perform well in workouts and be selected in the top 5.
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carroll is being very selfish, sanchez is a projected top 10 pick you should never try to convince a kid like that to come back
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carroll is being very selfish, sanchez is a projected top 10 pick you should never try to convince a kid like that to come back
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Agreed. Even if he disagrees with the decision, its in extremely poor taste to speak against a guy who just took you to a rose bowl win and was named the game's MVP. By the way, Mark should have started TWO years instead of one...starting John David Booty was a total mistake. Many USC players liked Sanchez better and wanted him to be the starter during the 2007 season.
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clausen is a true sophomore
as sophomores he is better than brady quinn was
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what was the point of this? Quinn was a more decorated qb than clausen will ever be. Clausen sucked even harder as a true freshmen....... we were discussing usc's new recuit, not how much worse can clausen get.
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what was the point of this? Quinn was a more decorated qb than clausen will ever be. Clausen sucked even harder as a true freshmen....... we were discussing usc's new recuit, not how much worse can clausen get.
you brought up clausen, not me
i'm saying it is too early to call jimmy a bust
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Agreed. Even if he disagrees with the decision, its in extremely poor taste to speak against a guy who just took you to a rose bowl win and was named the game's MVP. By the way, Mark should have started TWO years instead of one...starting John David Booty was a total mistake. Many USC players liked Sanchez better and wanted him to be the starter during the 2007 season.
carroll convinced leinart to come back and he lost millions
he would've been drafted number 1 overall, fell to 10th the next year
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you brought up clausen, not me
i'm saying it is too early to call jimmy a bust
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He certainly has not lived up to the hype.
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failed NFL QB = still pretty damn rich, retired at 25, with no real long-term injury.
not too shabby!
Successful NFL QB = crazy rich. Most guys don't want to be known as a bust playing the game they love. Anyone who has that mindset is not a winner. Do you think Leaf is happy with all his money? He is the punchline for jokes. The biggest bust ever. Meanwhile Manning is getting all the glory and swimming in far more cash than his draft deal gave him.
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I agree 100%! Many of these guys are looking to made some coin while they are young and healthy. Some fans tend to think players hold success on the field as high or higher than financial success. WRONG! It all comes down to getting that paycheck...followed by glory on the field.
I think Mark's success in the NFL depends more on which team drafts him and the players/coaches that surround him than the fact he's leaving school with one year of eligibility left. He's also finishing his degree this spring while preparing for the draft! I think he's going to perform well in workouts and be selected in the top 5.
The average lifespan of an nfl player is what, 54? something really short like that, I believe?
Maybe that sounds too low. and that average includes the 350 pound dudes.
But overall, retire by age 27 with a 5 million $ nut in a trust, and live the good life.
And never get married. Oh god no.
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carroll convinced leinart to come back and he lost millions
he would've been drafted number 1 overall, fell to 10th the next year
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THANK YOU! Leinart slipped big time in the draft and has not done anything worthy of mention in the pros so far.
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Successful NFL QB = crazy rich. Most guys don't want to be known as a bust playing the game they love. Anyone who has that mindset is not a winner. Do you think Leaf is happy with all his money? He is the punchline for jokes. The biggest bust ever. Meanwhile Manning is getting all the glory and swimming in far more cash than his draft deal gave him.
true. but at age 50, leaf won't ache at night, while peyton will. having a ring would rock though, i'll give ya that.
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He certainly has not lived up to the hype.
no he hasn't but most qb's don't start their first two years on campus
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no he hasn't but most qb's don't start their first two years on campus
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What makes you think he will do anything different over the next 2 years?
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once a guy is projected top 10, all they can do after that is find chinks in his armor and add another year of high level wear and tear.
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What makes you think he will do anything different over the next 2 years?
he's on a very young team loaded with blue chip athletes, typically juniors and seniors are better than they were as underclassmen
just look at brady quinn :)
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once a guy is projected top 10, all they can do after that is find chinks in his armor and add another year of high level wear and tear.
That's right. Not entering the draft after having been projected as a top 10 pick is heresy and spitting in the face of reason. If Mark gets injured or has a bad season next year, his stock will plummet.
Do you guys think Leinart will ever actually play his way into a contract that would have paid him as much as he would have gotten if turned pro after he won the Heisman and the Rose Bowl? HUGE MISTAKE.
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he's on a very young team loaded with blue chip athletes, typically juniors and seniors are better than they were as underclassmen
just look at brady quinn :)
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Jimmy Clausen = the new Ron Powlus.
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no he hasn't but most qb's don't start their first two years on campus
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most qb's aren't ranked #1 coming out of highschool.
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Successful NFL QB = crazy rich. Most guys don't want to be known as a bust playing the game they love. Anyone who has that mindset is not a winner. Do you think Leaf is happy with all his money? He is the punchline for jokes. The biggest bust ever. Meanwhile Manning is getting all the glory and swimming in far more cash than his draft deal gave him.
And? What does any of this have to do with Mark Sanchez?
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Jimmy Clausen = the new Ron Powlus.
we'll see
i'm just saying it's too early to call him a bust, brady quinn went from being a bum his sophomore year to projected 1st round pick after his junior year
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most qb's aren't ranked #1 coming out of highschool.
vince young was and he didn't start making a name for himself until his REDSHIRT sophomore year, playing on a more experienced texas team
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true. but at age 50, leaf won't ache at night, while peyton will. having a ring would rock though, i'll give ya that.
Do you think pro football players think like that? Do you think the great ones worry about aches later on in life. Manning may ache at night, but he will also be remembered as one of the best ever at the thing he loved to do most. Leaf will be a nobody that people make fun off and what people aspire not to be. Manning will be a in the HOF, extremley rich and he will have lived an amazing life. I think most pro's would like to have a few aches at night for the chance to live their dream.
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we'll see
i'm just saying it's too early to call him a bust, brady quinn went from being a bum his sophomore year to projected 1st round pick after his junior year
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It is too early to declare Clausen a bust, but I don't think he's going to turn out to be a Brady Quinn.
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It is too early to declare Clausen a bust, but I don't think he's going to turn out to be a Brady Quinn.
Is it to early for Alex Smith too? Another QB bust who was supposed to be a beast.
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have you seen who's sanchez's replacement is? usc is fucked.
USC isn't fu*ked Mitch Mustain will step right in. He has SEC experience, played HS and Arkansas with USC's top WR and was a #1 prospect
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Do you think pro football players think like that? Do you think the great ones worry about aches later on in life. Manning may ache at night, but he will also be remembered as one of the best ever at the thing he loved to do most. Leaf will be a nobody that people make fun off and what people aspire not to be. Manning will be a in the HOF, extremley rich and he will have lived an amazing life. I think most pro's would like to have a few aches at night for the chance to live their dream.
You have a very romanticized perspective of how pro athletes think. You're reaching in an effort to justify your argument, but its not working out very well at all.
What does any of this have to do with Mark Sanchez?
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vince young was and he didn't start making a name for himself until his REDSHIRT sophomore year, playing on a more experienced texas team
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again, the point flew right over your head
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Is it to early for Alex Smith too? Another QB bust who was supposed to be a beast.
qb's in college typically don't start until their 3rd year in the program at the earliest
heck sanchez didn't start until his 4th
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again, the point flew right over your head
says the guy who brought up jimmy clausen and is wondering why i'm talking about him
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Is it to early for Alex Smith too? Another QB bust who was supposed to be a beast.
Ever heard of Rich Gannon? Kurt Warner? Not everybody hits a home run at their first few at bats.
Alex Smith looks to be a bust, but his career is not over yet. We'll find out in due time.
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You have a very romanticized perspective of how pro athletes think. You're reaching in an effort to justify your argument, but its not working out very well at all.
What does any of this have to do with Mark Sanchez?
Not working out? I just gave you stats that showed that 85 percent of college qb's over the last 10 years who have less than 35 starts FAIL in the NFL. you're argument is based on your opinion that everyone is different, and that Mark can succeed. I think I win that one since I based my argument on actual statistical evidence, not just my feeling on the situation.
I'm not being romantic at all. Most great players want to be the best at what they do, and they don't worry about aches and pains later on in life. I'm pretty sure Ryan Leaf would love to be where Manning is now. But he still has his 5 million bucks that he has left over, and he is still laughed at and hated all around the country.
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Ever heard of Rich Gannon? Kurt Warner? Not everybody hits a home run at their first few at bats.
Alex Smith looks to be a bust, but his career is not over yet. We'll find out in due time.
Ok, but I showed you real stats that have showed that college qb's with less than 35 stars fail on the NFL 85 percent of the time. Smith is a bust.
You gave two examples of guys who got better later in their career. Now give me the list of those who didnt. It's going to be much longer than the one you just gave me.
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Not working out? I just gave you stats that showed that 85 percent of college qb's over the last 10 years who have less than 35 starts FAIL. You're argument is based on your opinion that everyone is different, and that Mark can succeed. I think I win that one.
I'm not being romatic at all. Most great players want to be the best at what they do, and they don't worry about aches and pains later on in life. I'm pretty sure Ryan Leaf would love to be where Manning is now. But he still has his 5 million bucks that he has left over, and he is still laughed at and hated all around the country.
Tell me how they fail, body88. QUANTIFY failure.
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Ok, but I showed you real stats that have showed that college qb's with less than 35 stars fail on the NFL 85 percent of the time. Smith is a bust.
You gave two examples of guys who got better later in their career. Now give me the list of those who didnt. It's going to be much longer than the one you just gave me.
As I said before, statistics are a guide and not a rule. I'm done arguing with an illogical person who doesn't know how statistics are used properly. You can't DEFINE or QUANTIFY anything, so I'm going to stop wasting my time with you.
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Tell me how they fail, body88. QUANTIFY failure.
Follow the link provided. They fail as being effective starters in the NFL. Again, over 85 percent of the college qb's who came out with 35 starts or less FAILED in the NFL. That is a fact. With all due respect your the one reaching. You're telling me that Mark will excel in the NFL because you think he can and because everyone is different. I'm saying that I hope he does but statistical evidence compiled over the last tens years says he wont.
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Ok, but I showed you real stats that have showed that college qb's with less than 35 stars fail on the NFL 85 percent of the time. Smith is a bust.
You gave two examples of guys who got better later in their career. Now give me the list of those who didnt. It's going to be much longer than the one you just gave me.
Smith's career is not over. Even then, you can't define what constitutes a "bust."
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As I said before, statistics are a guide and not a rule. I'm done arguing with an illogical person who doesn't know how statistics are used properly. You can't DEFINE or QUANTIFY anything, so I'm going to stop wasting my time with you.
You're done because you got stonewalled. I just told you, 85% of the college QB's who come out with less than 35 games played in school FAIL in the NFL. Fail means they are not effective starters and the team is forced to search for a new QB because the one they have is a BUST and is not capable of running an NFL team and helping them win. Fail, bust...you know not succeed, get cut, not effective, ineffective, not a good investment, not able to grasp the position etc.
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Follow the link provided. They fail as being effective starters in the NFL. Again, over 85 percent of the college qb's who came out with 35 starts or less FAILED in the NFL. That is a fact. With all due respect your the one reaching. You're telling me that Mark will excel in the NFL because you think he can and because everyone is different. I'm saying that I hope he does but statistical evidence compiled over the last tens years says he wont.
I simply stated that he made a decision based off his draft stock and made a logical choice. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
Do you think Leinart should have stayed? There are plenty of guys who have failed in the NFL who stayed all 4 years in college.
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You're done because you got stonewalled. I just told you, 85% of the college QB's who come out with less than 35 games played in school FAIL in the NFL. Fail means they are not effective starters and the team is forced to search for a new QB because the one they have is a BUST and is not capable of running an NFL team and helping them win. Fail, bust...you know not succeed, get cut, not effective, ineffective, not a good investment, not able to grasp the position etc.
Coaches, surrounding personnel, and management decisions also come into play when determining whether or not a player is effective.
There is a reason why many teams continually get high draft picks and continue to lose games every year. It's called SHITTY MANAGEMENT.
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Smith's career is not over. Even then, you can't define what constitutes a "bust."
I would say a bust, such as Smith or possibly Sanchez, would be a guy who goes in the upper first round, does little to nothing for a few years, and is subsequently out of the league in half a decade.
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I simply stated that he made a decision based off his draft stock and made a logical choice. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
Do you think Leinart should have stayed? There are plenty of guys who have failed in the NFL who stayed all 4 years in college.
I don't have an opinion on Leinart right now....I have to look at his numbers. We are talking about Mark Sanchez who has started less than 35 games in college. And according to the stats I showed you, 85% of college qb's who come into the NFL with less than 35 starts have failed over the last ten years. Fail, does not do well, is cut, is a bust, causes their team to lose, ineffective, not good.....I don't know how much more I can clarify it for you.
I hope Sanchez does well, I just think the chances are against him.
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Coaches, surrounding personnel, and management decisions also come into play when determining whether or not a player is effective.
There is a reason why many teams continually get high draft picks and continue to lose games every year. It's called SHITTY MANAGEMENT.
True, one commentator said it best the year Bush/Leinart left, "USC's best player is still there, Pete Carroll."
I think Carroll's the reason why USC is such a "clutch" team that doesn't lose big games...oh well, still, as a Trojan, i'm still pissed to see VIVA SANCHEZ go. :-\
Good to see fellow Trojans posting on getbig though ;D
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Do you think pro football players think like that? Do you think the great ones worry about aches later on in life. Manning may ache at night, but he will also be remembered as one of the best ever at the thing he loved to do most. Leaf will be a nobody that people make fun off and what people aspire not to be. Manning will be a in the HOF, extremley rich and he will have lived an amazing life. I think most pro's would like to have a few aches at night for the chance to live their dream.
leaf and manning are both winners though.
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I don't have an opinion on Leinart right now....I have to look at his numbers. We are talking about Mark Sanchez who has started less than 35 games in college. And according to the stats I showed you, 85% of college qb's who come into the NFL with less than 35 starts have failed over the last ten years. Fail, does not do well, is cut, is a bust, causes their team to lose, ineffective, not good.....I don't know how much more I can clarify it for you.
I hope Sanchez does well, I just think the chances are against him.
Leinart is not doing well so far. He was beaten out by Kurt Warner and is not in favor with the Cardinals. He's a party boy who doesn't take his job as an NFL QB too seriously. He had some nice moments his rookie year, but that was two years ago and he hasn't been heard from since...unless partying with 18 year old girls constitutes being heard from.
The NFL is extremely unpredictable and it's impossible to say whether Mark will succeed or fail. Many upperclassmen who went to school and played 2-4 years failed miserably at the pro level.
Whatever the case is, Pete Carroll was extremely vengeful and demonstrated little grace at Mark's press conference today. There was NO REASON to call Mark out like that in front of a group of reporters on what should have been a day of celebration. I understand Pete may have disagreed with Mark behind closed doors, but what he did today was ridiculous. He potentially could cost Mark money and hurt his draft position. In the end, I think Mark will have the last word...he's an intelligent guy who will perform well on the wonderlic test and I think he'll perform very well at the combine and at pro workouts.
In part, I hope Mark succeeds to spite Pete Carroll.
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Leinart is not doing well so far. He was beaten out by Kurt Warner and is not in favor with the Cardinals. He's a party boy who doesn't take his job as an NFL QB too seriously. He had some nice moments his rookie year, but that was two years ago and he hasn't been heard from since...unless partying with 18 year old girls constitutes being heard from.
The NFL is extremely unpredictable and it's impossible to say whether Mark will succeed or fail. Many upperclassmen who went to school and played 2-4 years failed miserably at the pro level.
Whatever the case is, Pete Carroll was extremely vengeful and demonstrated little grace at Mark's press conference today. There was NO REASON to call Mark out like that in front of a group of reporters on what should have been a day of celebration. I understand Pete may have disagreed with Mark behind closed doors, but what he did today was ridiculous. He potentially could cost Mark money and hurt his draft position. In the end, I think Mark will have the last word...he's an intelligent guy who will perform well on the wonderlic test and I think he'll perform very well at the combine and at pro workouts.
In part, I hope Mark succeeds to spite Pete Carroll.
I hope Mark lights up to. He seems like a good kid. I just hope he didn't come out to early. Pete is just mad because he didn't listen to him.
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leaf and manning are both winners though.
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Leaf did walk away from the NFL as a multimillionaire.
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I hope Mark lights up to. He seems like a good kid. I just hope he didn't come out to early. Pete is just mad because he didn't listen to him.
he is mad because that freshman or those backups will not lead that team to an undefeated season. they arent winning a national championship in the peewee 10 with one lost. if they get through their cupcake schedule...then mccoy, tebow, jefferson or a solid qb on a stacked team will be waiting for them.
still think sanchez was the weak link on the 2008 team. just needed FL to expose him. i'd take him late 1st or early 2nd. georgia's qb is the class, kinda like a big arm elway.
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Pete doesn't like rebuilding, period.
But once the kid made his decision, that was that. Ya know?
This guy is about to go make millions of dollars...he'll make more in a few years than most of his classmates will make in their lifetimes, even if he never starts a game in the NFL.
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still think sanchez was the weak link on the 2008 team. just needed FL to expose him. i'd take him late 1st or early 2nd. georgia's qb is the class, kinda like a big arm elway.
Please explain the logic behind this assertion.
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what's the pt? random off the topic nonsense post because i hate USC.
Ok, then you weren't attempting to be logical when you made that statement. Consider me clarified.
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Pete doesn't like rebuilding, period.
But once the kid made his decision, that was that. Ya know?
This guy is about to go make millions of dollars...he'll make more in a few years than most of his classmates will make in their lifetimes, even if he never starts a game in the NFL.
I was surprised he would respond so negatively. Sanchez would have been better off without Carroll at the press conference.
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You're done because you got stonewalled. I just told you, 85% of the college QB's who come out with less than 35 games played in school FAIL in the NFL. Fail means they are not effective starters and the team is forced to search for a new QB because the one they have is a BUST and is not capable of running an NFL team and helping them win. Fail, bust...you know not succeed, get cut, not effective, ineffective, not a good investment, not able to grasp the position etc.
Even if Mark were to come back, he still wouldn't be able to make it to 35 starts, so you really don't have a point ???
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Even if Mark were to come back, he still wouldn't be able to make it to 35 starts, so you really don't have a point ???
Spot on.
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Spot on.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one annoyed by his failure to quantify "bust" ;D
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one annoyed by his failure to quantify "bust" ;D
He can't do it. Why present statistics in support of something subjective? Doesn't sound like real statistics to me..
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=sancheztopstonsoftalent&prov=tsn&type=lgns (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=sancheztopstonsoftalent&prov=tsn&type=lgns)
Well, well, well. Look who just got the top spot on Rivals' top 10 NFL draft pics for this year.
Good decision Mark!
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Please explain the logic behind this assertion.
ANYONE THAT HAS EVER SEEN STAFFORD THROW A FOOTBAL COULD EASILY MAKE THIS ASSERTION. PEYTON MANNING SAID HE'S NEVER SEEN ANYONE WITH AN ARM LIKE STAFFORD'S ARM.
DOES'T MEAN HE'LL BE A BETTER NFL QB
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ANYONE THAT HAS EVER SEEN STAFFORD THROW A FOOTBAL COULD EASILY MAKE THIS ASSERTION. PEYTON MANNING SAID HE'S NEVER SEEN ANYONE WITH AN ARM LIKE STAFFORD'S ARM.
DOES'T MEAN HE'LL BE A BETTER NFL QB
Stafford definitely throws darts out there. He just needs a little more consistency!
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ANYONE THAT HAS EVER SEEN STAFFORD THROW A FOOTBAL COULD EASILY MAKE THIS ASSERTION. PEYTON MANNING SAID HE'S NEVER SEEN ANYONE WITH AN ARM LIKE STAFFORD'S ARM.
DOES'T MEAN HE'LL BE A BETTER NFL QB
Says Rivals.com:
No. 1 Lions. Mark Sanchez*, QB, USC
Sanchez is NFL-ready and has a similar skill set to Matthew Stafford, but does not make the mistakes under pressure that Stafford does occasionally.
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Stafford definitely throws darts out there. He just needs a little more consistency!
I AGREE. KEEP IN MIND THAT THE LAST 2 YEARS, HE BASICALLY HAD 18 YR OLD KIDS BLOCKING FOR HIM. STAFF HAS GOT TO LEARN TO TAKE A LITTLE OFF THE BALL
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By the way, I would not want to be a QB drafted by the Lions. I hope Mark doesn't fall into the burden of trying to guide that joke of a team. He probably will be a "bust" if the Lions get a hold of him.
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I AGREE. KEE IN MOND THAT THE LAST 2 YEARS, HE BASICALLY HAD 18 YR OLD KIDS BLOCKING FOR HIM. STAFF HAS GOT TO LEARN TO TAKE A LITTLE OFF THE BALL
He's definitely got the raw talent to be a huge star. We'll see what happens, won't we? This kid is going to awe scouts at the combine and at his workouts.
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Says Rivals.com:
No. 1 Lions. Mark Sanchez*, QB, USC
Sanchez is NFL-ready and has a similar skill set to Matthew Stafford, but does not make the mistakes under pressure that Stafford does occasionally.
DON'T FORGET. STAFF PLAYED IN THE BEST CONFERENCE (BY FAR) IN THE NATION THE LAST 3 YEARS.
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Moving on....next up to bat:
Matt Barkley
6'3
226
4.7
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2008/writers/andy_staples/02/07/next.year/p1_bark.jpg)
;D
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WHAT ABOUT MUSTAIN?
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Moving on....next up to bat:
Matt Barkley
6'3
226
4.7
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2008/writers/andy_staples/02/07/next.year/p1_bark.jpg)
;D
This kid is going to start as a true freshman next year. Crazy skills.
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WHAT ABOUT MUSTAIN?
He has the experience, but Barkley will oust him before the season starts. This kid has talent that will not be denied. Mustain was also playing on a team with TWO NFL running backs (McFadden and Felix Jones) who helped mask his weak arm. Mustain is no Barkley.
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Typical selfish college coach. NCAA makes millions off of these kids and they're the villains just because they want to secure their future.
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Typical selfish college coach. NCAA makes millions off of these kids and they're the villains just because they want to secure their future.
Unbelievable, isn't it?
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Moving on....next up to bat:
Matt Barkley
6'3
226
4.7
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2008/writers/andy_staples/02/07/next.year/p1_bark.jpg)
;D
he was the number one player in the country but threw a lot of interceptions his senior year
no way he starts next year, he's ranked high due to potential
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he was the number one player in the country but threw a lot of interceptions his senior year
no way he starts next year, he's ranked high due to potential
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Earl, how are things?
here is one for you
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Mustain will likely be the next QB at U$C and they have plenty along with Arron Corp, Greene and Matt Barkley. I hope my lions do take Mark "Dirty" Sanchez." I heard he was accused of rape and that the boosters paid the girl off but i am sure that is a lie with the rest of the lies that happen in college football. U$C is stacked and loaded at every spot and they are picking up more and more. Mustains mom must be happy that Sanchez that left but Mitch will have a year to connect with Damien Williams, Ronald Johnson and incoming wr Randoll Carroll.
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Says Rivals.com:
No. 1 Lions. Mark Sanchez*, QB, USC
Sanchez is NFL-ready and has a similar skill set to Matthew Stafford, but does not make the mistakes under pressure that Stafford does occasionally.
he was throwing against the pac-10, and he still had 2-3 bad games during the yr. the talent carried him like that fool in arizona and booty. detroit is a mess, and he isnt the answer.
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he was throwing against the pac-10, and he still had 2-3 bad games during the yr. the talent carried him like that fool in arizona and booty. detroit is a mess, and he isnt the answer.
Detroit needs help just about everywhere...he won't solve any of their problems. The whole organization needs to be overhauled and rebuilt.
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We need Left Tackle, Andre Smith from Alabama but something tells me that we are going to take Matthew Stafford out of Georgia with the #1 pick. The Lions also have another first rounder from the cowboys and i would like to see us get Brian Cushing because i believe that he will be available or James Larinattuss (sp)
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We need Left Tackle, Andre Smith from Alabama but something tells me that we are going to take Matthew Stafford out of Georgia with the #1 pick. The Lions also have another first rounder from the cowboys and i would like to see us get Brian Cushing because i believe that he will be available or James Larinattuss (sp)
Whichever QB performs better at the combine and at their individual workouts will end up being the number one overall pick. I think Sanchez is going to perform very well, but Stafford might be one of the best workout guys of all time with that crazy arm...we'll see what happens in March/April.
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We need Left Tackle, Andre Smith from Alabama but something tells me that we are going to take Matthew Stafford out of Georgia with the #1 pick. The Lions also have another first rounder from the cowboys and i would like to see us get Brian Cushing because i believe that he will be available or James Larinattuss (sp)
If your GM was smart, he would take that tackle with the number one, and use the second first rounder and your third rounder on Cassel. A proven NFL caliber QB who is going to be a beast. He's only 26 and he would have a big time weapon in Johnson right off the bat. He can come right in to start no problem, and he also had far better numbers than any of the rookie QB's this year. He would also be cheaper than taking a QB in the draft with the #1 pick, and he is a MUCH safer pick.
The pats had over 14 starters on ir this year, and allowed the most sacks in the NFL....yet Cassel still finished the year with better numbers than guys like Matt Ryan (who was a little overrated while Cassel was underrated. imo).
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If your GM was smart, he would take that tackle with the number one, and use the second first rounder and your third rounder on Cassel. A proven NFL caliber QB who is going to be a beast. He's only 26 and he would have a big time weapon in Johnson right off the bat. He can come right in to start no problem, and he also had far better numbers than any of the rookie QB's this year. He would also be cheaper than taking a QB in the draft with the #1 pick, and he is a MUCH safer pick.
The pats had over 14 starters on ir this year, and allowed the most sacks in the NFL....yet Cassel still finished the year with better numbers than guys like Matt Ryan (who was a little overrated while Cassel was underrated. imo).
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3809444 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3809444)
Cassel isn't going anywhere until Brady's status has been solidified. As of now, Tom Brady being ready for next season is a huge question mark. The Pats are going to keep both QBs for next season and make a decision afterward.
Brady's status is completely unknown at this time; the Pats are being very secretive with his rehab process. There's no reason to believe he's going to be ready for the next season yet. Even if Brady recovers, Cassel won't be traded unless the Pats are 100% sure Tom is ready to play. There's NO WAY all of this is going to be resolved before the draft. Cassel will stay put for now.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3809444 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3809444)
Cassel isn't going anywhere until Brady's status has been solidified. As of now, Tom Brady being ready for next season is a huge question mark. The Pats are going to keep both QBs for next season and make a decision afterward.
Brady's status is completely unknown at this time; the Pats are being very secretive with his rehab process. There's no reason to believe he's going to be ready for the next season yet. Even if Brady recovers, Cassel won't be traded unless the Pats are 100% sure Tom is ready to play. There's NO WAY all of this is going to be resolved before the draft. Cassel will stay put for now.
Peter King is saying the exact opposite of that report. Adam Shefter also. The report you are reading is based on a peice written by Tom Curran. The pats are secrative with everyone, not just Brady. There is good reason to believe that Brady might be ready for next season, because Carson Palmer had a much more severe injury than Brady much later in the season and he came back to start the year. There are all kinds of reports going around right now. I live two blocks from Brady on Comm Ave in Boston, and I have seen him out with Gisele a few times over the last few months. I know you can't tell much from a person walking down the street, but I doubt Brady would be out walking around if his knee was that bad.
That said, I am basing what I said on the Brady coming back. At this point it's pure speculation, but IMO he will be back and Cassel will be traded. A lot of rumbles of that in the Boston media right now.
So on Sunday morning, Tom Curran of NBCSports.com reported that Patriots quarterback Tom Brady might miss the 2009 season due to his slower-than-expected recovery from knee surgery.
And on Sunday night Peter King of NBC contradicted the, um, NBC report.
King said on Football Night In America that two people close to Brady dispute the report, claiming that he’s actually ahead of schedule.
Per King, there’s also a theory in the Brady camp that the Patriots are floating a phony story in order to get more value for quarterback Matt Cassel via a trade.
Of course, to trade Cassel, the Patriots would have to slap the franchise tag on Cassel. But King has previously opined that the Pats won’t franchise Cassel if Brady is healthy.
But now King is now citing sources close to Brady who think that the Patriots intend to franchise Cassel even if Brady is healthy.
So when in the hell did ESPN buy NBC?
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Mustain will likely be the next QB at U$C and they have plenty along with Arron Corp, Greene and Matt Barkley. I hope my lions do take Mark "Dirty" Sanchez." I heard he was accused of rape and that the boosters paid the girl off but i am sure that is a lie with the rest of the lies that happen in college football. U$C is stacked and loaded at every spot and they are picking up more and more. Mustains mom must be happy that Sanchez that left but Mitch will have a year to connect with Damien Williams, Ronald Johnson and incoming wr Randoll Carroll.
True story my friend.
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True story my friend.
Sanchez was in trouble for some sort of sexual issue correct?
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Sanchez was in trouble for some sort of sexual issue correct?
Yeah, he raped a girl and it got covered up.
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True story my friend.
I have a few friends that were going to USC while i was attending Michigan and told me some of the story but i just thought that it was just another drunk sorority girl. I was told that the boosters paid her off because he was "THE NEXT" great qb at USC and big schools watch out for their players as much as possible. I knew some people that tried to help some of the Football players at Michigan with extra help with their classes and they could still not pass and they got kicked out. Well, it was to bad that we could not pull a Maurice Claurett out of our asses.
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Yeah, he raped a girl and it got covered up.
Naive.
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Yeah, he raped a girl and it got covered up.
sounds like he has high natural test levels. that should move him up into the top 5 of the draft, no doubt.
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If your GM was smart, he would take that tackle with the number one, and use the second first rounder and your third rounder on Cassel. A proven NFL caliber QB who is going to be a beast. He's only 26 and he would have a big time weapon in Johnson right off the bat. He can come right in to start no problem, and he also had far better numbers than any of the rookie QB's this year. He would also be cheaper than taking a QB in the draft with the #1 pick, and he is a MUCH safer pick.
The pats had over 14 starters on ir this year, and allowed the most sacks in the NFL....yet Cassel still finished the year with better numbers than guys like Matt Ryan (who was a little overrated while Cassel was underrated. imo).
Good point. QB's that high are very risky.
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Yeah, he raped a girl and it got covered up.
Wasan't he a Freshman when this happened? I always hear about 5 star players that walk in with everything given to them.
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sounds like he has high natural test levels. that should move him up into the top 5 of the draft, no doubt.
Mark gets what he wants. If he wants something, he WILL get it. Sounds like this whole situation that happened early in Mark's career at USC was foreshadowing his determination and desire.
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I know you can't tell much from a person walking down the street, but I doubt Brady would be out walking around if his knee was that bad.
The first half of your sentence is correct. A leisurely walk down the street is much different than running and cutting on the football field. We'll see what happens soon enough.
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Mark gets what he wants. If he wants something, he WILL get it. Sounds like this whole situation that happened early in Mark's career at USC was foreshadowing his determination and desire.
That's just the kind of "take what is rightfully yours" that NFL scouts just love.
Dirty Sanchez will be a fine NFL player.
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Naive.
Haha, trust me it's true.
Wasan't he a Freshman when this happened? I always hear about 5 star players that walk in with everything given to them.
Yes, I believe he was. College football is a lot like "The Program"....more than you will ever know.
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OH, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THOUGHT YOUR ORGINAL COMMENT WAS SARCASTIC
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Haha, trust me it's true.
Yes, I believe he was. College football is a lot like "The Program"....more than you will ever know.
I have seen "The Program" and i know what college athletics is all about. I went to Michigan and was attending USF for my masters but decided to take some time off and i have seen many players come and go. I have visited so many "MAJOR" D1 schools and have seen alot of things go on. Clemson was one of the worst programs that i have ever seen. I worked out with a couple of OT'S that played at Clemson and the stories that they were telling me, not surprising....money, women, cars,.etc I could not imagine going to USC and having what they have. I mean Reggie Bush did not even know how his parents paid for the house..HaHA I mean i knew the #1 recruit in the nation Derrick Williams who went to the University of South Carolina and he was taking $100 handshakes in high school from Clemson and University of South Carolina boosters. Derrick was giving everything to him and he was caught with Marijuana, beating up some women more then once and still was given chance after chance and finally he went to South Carolina State and did the same thing...working at a Metal Fabrication place as of now, making $7.00 a hour
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Sanchez sure is fuck ain't no Joe Flacco.......
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Dirty Sanchez sure is fuck ain't no Joe Flacco.......
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Sanchez sure is fuck ain't no Joe Flacco.......
;D
Even though I'm a Panthers fan, I like Joe Flacco. Just looks cool and ready for anything.
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Sanchez sure is fuck ain't no Joe Flacco.......
;D
Mark has not yet been drafted into the NFL.
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Mark has not yet been drafted into the NFL.
QFT
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Even though I'm a Panthers fan, I like Joe Flacco. Just looks cool and ready for anything.
We'll find out tomorrow, won't we? No doubt, Flacco is one cool cat. He just needs to keep the chains moving and not make any mistakes.
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That's just the kind of "take what is rightfully yours" that NFL scouts just love.
Dirty Sanchez will be a fine NFL player.
He's had an NFL mentality since he first arrived on campus. The guy will thread the needle on the deep ball, even when faced with tough coverage.
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He's had an NFL mentality since he first arrived on campus. The guy will thread the needle on the deep ball, even when faced with tough coverage.
when has he ever faced "tough" coverage in the Pac-10? LMAO
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when has he ever faced "tough" coverage in the Pac-10? LMAO
I was referring to USC co-eds who didn't want to give Mark what he wanted when he wanted it.
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Accepted
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Who would turn this man down?
(http://www.teamandras.com/usc/Photos2005_08_10_Scrimmage/images/20050810_088_DSC_0202.jpg)
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Who would turn this man down?
(http://www.teamandras.com/usc/Photos2005_08_10_Scrimmage/images/20050810_088_DSC_0202.jpg)
Is that him as a freshman?
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Is that him as a freshman?
I guess so; every time I've seen him he has had hair. No wonder why he got denied and had to take corrective action!
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when he has hair you have to admit he is dreamy ;);D
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Who would turn this man down?
(http://www.teamandras.com/usc/Photos2005_08_10_Scrimmage/images/20050810_088_DSC_0202.jpg)
He looks like one of the cheerleaders from "The Longest Yard".
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I was referring to USC co-eds who didn't want to give Mark what he wanted when he wanted it.
You're either with mark Sanchez getting laid whenever he wants, or you're with the terrorists.
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You're either with mark "Dirty" Sanchez getting laid whenever he wants, or you're with the terrorists.
Hell, every big time college player gets women. Look at Noel Devine
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Look at Noel Devine
haha that dude went to my high school, north fort myers, FL
In Mid-February 2008, Devine and teammate, Jock Sanders, allegedly beat and stomped two students outside of Club Z in Morgantown. Head coach Bill Stewart said of the incident, "To me disrespecting someone downtown of the opposite sex is a whole lot worse than bumping into a guy in a bar, which you shouldn't be in the bar anyhow. But, to me there's intangibles in life. Sometimes there's confrontations, sometimes you don't handle confrontations right, but preplanned, pre arranged instances–you can't overlook that."[30] On March 13, Devine, Sanders, Eian Smith, and Brantwon Bowser were arrested. They pleaded no contest.[31] The four were, nevertheless, expected to begin spring practice.[32]
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haha that dude went to my high school, north fort myers, FL
In Mid-February 2008, Devine and teammate, Jock Sanders, allegedly beat and stomped two students outside of Club Z in Morgantown. Head coach Bill Stewart said of the incident, "To me disrespecting someone downtown of the opposite sex is a whole lot worse than bumping into a guy in a bar, which you shouldn't be in the bar anyhow. But, to me there's intangibles in life. Sometimes there's confrontations, sometimes you don't handle confrontations right, but preplanned, pre arranged instances–you can't overlook that."[30] On March 13, Devine, Sanders, Eian Smith, and Brantwon Bowser were arrested. They pleaded no contest.[31] The four were, nevertheless, expected to begin spring practice.[32]
Yea, i am in W.V. right now and they will not even allow him to speak in public. I heard that he was not even allowed to play in Dade County and everyone knows that is where the best talent is but he was a thug, no football for him in Dade County. I watched him play at a high school game. I felt bad being 25 and watching a kid play football there but i had family that went there so what the hell? I wonder what Deion thinks about him? Have you seen his grill? How many kids does he have? 3,4,5 or more.
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he was the number one player in the country but threw a lot of interceptions his senior year
no way he starts next year, he's ranked high due to potential
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Whats up Earl? :D
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4426998 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4426998)
Source: Barkley named starter
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Matt Barkley has been named USC's starting quarterback, a source close to the freshman told ESPN's Shelley Smith on Thursday.
It is not known whether Barkley will start beyond the Trojans' Sept. 5 opener against San Jose State.
Barkley split time with junior Aaron Corp, who has not gone through a full practice since cracking his fibula Aug. 11, running the No. 1 offense at practice Wednesday.
Barkley, who graduated early from high school so he could participate in spring ball, has received the most quality time in practice this month. Corp was chosen as the Trojans' replacement for Mark Sanchez out of spring ball but was hurt in USC's second practice of camp.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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the other usc qb's must be really bad
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the other usc qb's must be really bad
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barkley is awesome...should have seen him in highschool...This dude is the next great one...
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barkley is awesome...should have seen him in highschool...This dude is the next great one...
I've heard all about him last year. But I just cannot get into HS football. I guess its becasue I remember practice too much. I accidently walked into a HS game at a Texas Stadium visit on a Saturday night .........Texans call their state the HS football powerhouse but we have talent here in So Cal....Florida has some goopd players...and all the QB's in West Pa. are great! Looks like Corp will start but I'd love to get Barkley involved Tebbow style.
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I've heard all about him last year. But I just cannot get into HS football. I guess its becasue I remember practice too much. I accidently walked into a HS game at a Texas Stadium visit on a Saturday night .........Texans call their state the HS football powerhouse but we have talent here in So Cal....Florida has some goopd players...and all the QB's in West Pa. are great! Looks like Corp will start but I'd love to get Barkley involved Tebbow style.
Na Barkley is starting...but dude....Barkley is RAW.....
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Na Barkley is starting...but dude....Barkley is RAW.....
Yeah I just saw that news on Yahoo...... Starting raw S J State after getting blasted by the nations NUMBER 1 defense in practice won't be so bad. I doubt OSU will be any tougher than SJ SU!!!!!!!
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barkley is awesome...should have seen him in highschool...This dude is the next great one...
throwing 18 - 20 int's his senior year is awesome?
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throwing 18 - 20 int's his senior year is awesome?
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He starts for USC..The Same team that has had 2 Heisman Quarterbacks in this decade...yeah bro...he is awesome...he was national player of the year...im gonna go with awesomeness...
Have you seen him play...He was throwing the deep out from the opposite hash as a sophmore...Throwing the fade like it was nothin...The corner route...(35yard one) in the endzone with all the touch in the world..i know a good quarterback when i see one
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USC won't be winning another national title anytime soon.
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USC won't be winning another national title anytime soon.
USC will win one in 2011..
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He starts for USC..The Same team that has had 2 Heisman Quarterbacks in this decade...yeah bro...he is awesome...he was national player of the year...im gonna go with awesomeness...
Have you seen him play...He was throwing the deep out from the opposite hash as a sophmore...Throwing the fade like it was nothin...The corner route...(35yard one) in the endzone with all the touch in the world..i know a good quarterback when i see one
yeah they had 2 heisman qb's, what does that have to do with today? florida state had two heisman qb's in the 90's and hasn't had a good qb since
i'm not saying he won't be good, i just think the other qb's usc has might not be that good at all for him to start as a true freshman
he threw abut 20 int's last year in high school, obviously his decision making isn't currently at the elite level
if usc couldn't win a national title last year, they won't this year unless you think barkley is good enough to start for the jets
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USC will win one in 2011..
It better be NOW . Since the game will be here in LA!
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USC isn't fu*ked Mitch Mustain will step right in. He has SEC experience, played HS and Arkansas with USC's top WR and was a #1 prospect
Mich WAS great that one freshman year. But he left Arkansas with a bunch of Dicks. :D
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USC won't be winning another national title anytime soon.
Please don't say that...otherwise this season is all Florida's. Who wants to see them win again and again...or see Okla and OSU lose again and again and..... :-\
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He certainly has not lived up to the hype.
what's up Relentless ;D
clausen currently a heisman favorite, you can't say a qb is a bust after his sophomore year
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/10179630/Heisman-Watch:-Here-comes-Clausen
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what's up Relentless ;D
clausen currently a heisman favorite, you can't say a qb is a bust after his sophomore year
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/10179630/Heisman-Watch:-Here-comes-Clausen
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Clausen is no better than Locker or Crompton!!!! He's only over hyped because he goes to Notre Dame. He's proven himself as their leader but he's ok at best. Then there's Tebbow!!!
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just pointing out that he is better than people thought he was
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just pointing out that he is better than people thought he was
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I am pro USC, but Jordan JeffersonLSU's is the most underatted QB in college football today.
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just pointing out that he is better than people thought he was
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100% right. Good call. However, that Henne kid looks very good.
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I am pro USC, but Jordan JeffersonLSU's is the most underatted QB in college football today.
Nope, that honor would go to Russell Wilson at NC State.
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100% right. Good call. However, that Henne kid looks very good.
i was talking about jimmy clausen
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i was talking about jimmy clausen
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As in the Pickles? ;)
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Nope, that honor would go to Russell Wilson at NC State.
Don't forget the kid from Central Michigan,LeFevour.
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Don't forget the kid from Central Michigan,LeFevour.
Haven't seen him play.
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Haven't seen him play.
Can run and throw.took his no name team into Michigan State and beat them this year.