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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stark on September 01, 2011, 09:40:08 AM
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Listen, most of you dislike me being a little outspoken and biast in regards to steroids...
I would like to ask all the getbiggers that have used or still use, do you honest to god believe it is worth it?
I do understand the reasons for using it if you are in the pro bodybuilding business and make a living, i do agree there are way worth and more hazardous ways of making your money.
But 99.9% of getbiggers will never make it that far, yet a lot of you use steroids.
So, why? you all know it is only for the moment and if not it will possibly fuck your health.
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most people on the planet live for the moment.
also, in this vanity driven society we live in, there's big societal pressure to look your best. i'm not talking about the 100 ifbb pros that are freaks of nature, i'm talking millions (yes, millions) who use anabolics/gh/hrt/trt for anti-aging / looks only.
it doesn't bother me. it's not different to me than getting a boob job or buying trendy shirts.
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most people on the planet live for the moment.
also, in this vanity driven society we live in, there's big societal pressure to look your best. i'm not talking about the 100 ifbb pros that are freaks of nature, i'm talking millions (yes, millions) who use anabolics/gh/hrt/trt for anti-aging / looks only.
it doesn't bother me. it's not different to me than getting a boob job or buying trendy shirts.
Don't get me wrong the aspect that people take steroids doesn't bother me (as in the individulal) what I hate and dispise is the hypocracy the lying and weasling and looking for convenient reasons to stay on drugs is what I realy fucking hate.
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most people on the planet live for the moment.
also, in this vanity driven society we live in, there's big societal pressure to look your best. i'm not talking about the 100 ifbb pros that are freaks of nature, i'm talking millions (yes, millions) who use anabolics/gh/hrt/trt for anti-aging / looks only.it doesn't bother me. it's not different to me than getting a boob job or buying trendy shirts.
Don't forget the other millions who use it for actual athletic purposes on top of vanity.
I would tend to agree with your last sentance as long as it is not with the intention of gathering an unfair athletic advantage.
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Listen, most of you dislike me being a little outspoken and biast in regards to steroids...
I would like to ask all the getbiggers that have used or still use, do you honest to god believe it is worth it?
I do understand the reasons for using it if you are in the pro bodybuilding business and make a living, i do agree there are way worth and more hazardous ways of making your money.
But 99.9% of getbiggers will never make it that far, yet a lot of you use steroids.
So, why? you all know it is only for the moment and if not it will possibly fuck your health.
You need to rephrase what you are asking. There is a difference between use and abuse. Over the last couple of decades doctors have identified the important of testosterone in males and that there is a negative effect when you reach your mid 30's and the levels drop. That USE of a small dose of 200 mg per week or 2 weeks can get you back to your previous natural levels and have no adverse affects.
Then you have the abusers who worship the shitfuck GH15. They think 200 MG eod plus tren, plus eq, plus dbol, plus superdrol, plus GH, plus insulin will make them look "jacked". That's the group your threat, err thread should concentrate on
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Listen, most of you dislike me being a little outspoken and biast in regards to steroids...
I would like to ask all the getbiggers that have used or still use, do you honest to god believe it is worth it?
I do understand the reasons for using it if you are in the pro bodybuilding business and make a living, i do agree there are way worth and more hazardous ways of making your money.
But 99.9% of getbiggers will never make it that far, yet a lot of you use steroids.
So, why? you all know it is only for the moment and if not it will possibly fuck your health.
Really no different than fucking up your body with drugs, alchohol or tobacco. None of it is worth it to me, but I still abused everthing listed. Why, I wish I knew. I have smartened up enough to give up about everything except for steroids. But I have not done a cycle since I battled prostate cancer 2 years ago. I do have the goodies ready and going to start one right after my blood work in October. They did try and blame steroids for the cancer, who knows for sure. Doc does have me on a script for test cyp now but I no longer have a prostate to develope more cancer into. :'(
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There's use and abuse.
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Don't get me wrong the aspect that people take steroids doesn't bother me (as in the individulal) what I hate and dispise is the hypocracy the lying and weasling and looking for convenient reasons to stay on drugs is what I realy fucking hate.
it's pure economics and marketing. since most supplements are bought by kids (with their parents money), they need to promote a product that builds muscle and is safe. since such thing doesn't exist besides steroids, which are illegal, they have to resort to lying in order to make a buck. can you see kai greene in the regular workforce? lulz.
since the congressional hearings etc, and this witch hunt on steroids, people just have to lie because government/media made steroid use equivalent to black tar heroin.
and in the end, most people who pursue physical development to that extreme are fucked up in the head to begin with; if you think about it, it's pure torture/inconvenience to desire that "body"; and once you get it, you can't even enjoy it because you're afraid you'll get fat again or you have a distorted body image, so you stay inside in a hoodie in the summer time.
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depends on the person. people like Kevin Levrone have the potential to turn on God mode with steroids, so yes it is worth it for him
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Good question Stark.
I personally only started using once I made the decision to compete. If I didn't compete, I wouldn't use (I'll let you know how that goes when the competition days are done ;) lol). However, step back for a second and think of guys who don't use it purely for their desire to compete but just recreationally. Think of AAS like any other DRUG... Alcohol, Marijuana, Pain Killers, Coke, etc... Why do people invest in any of this? Cigarettes? Think of how many hundreds of dollars most Americans spend in a bar on any given weekend? For what? How much money they pay for cigarettes? For what? It's all the same question.
Now AAS is FAR LESS dangerous then some of the drugs I mentioned, but like any drug, when a user likes how it effects them, they keep using (it's called addiction).
Go ask a lung cancer patient why he had been smoking all those years and if the money spent and suffering caused due to it was worth it - same question as your OP.
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Can't see how anything that helps to kill you can be worth it
Reckless... Rash decision I bet you flex and Tom prince regret ever using it
Mike matazarro has said candidly in an Interview he wished he had carried in driving his delivery van and never became a pro bber.
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Good question Stark.
I personally only started using once I made the decision to compete. If I didn't compete, I wouldn't use (I'll let you know how that goes when the competition days are done ;) lol). However, step back for a second and think of guys who don't use it purely for their desire to compete but just recreationally. Think of AAS like any other DRUG... Alcohol, Marijuana, Pain Killers, Coke, etc... Why do people invest in any of this? Cigarettes? Think of how many hundreds of dollars most Americans spend in a bar on any given weekend? For what? How much money they pay for cigarettes? For what? It's all the same question.
Now AAS is FAR LESS dangerous then some of the drugs I mentioned, but like any drug, when a user likes how it effects them, they keep using (it's called addiction).
Go ask a lung cancer patient why he had been smoking all those years and if the money spent and suffering caused due to it was worth it - same question as your OP.
So incorrect here. AAS is not like any other drug. The fact is your body naturally creates testosterone,the fact that you were born a boy and not a girl was the testosterone in your mom winning out. It is a naturally occuring substance. The fact you have hair on your balls and a deeper voice and are considered a man is because of it.
Alcohol, weed, coke is a manufactured substance meant to have a psychotropic effect on your brain and nervous system. Don't mistaken what your body creates vs. what man creates in a lab.
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So incorrect here. AAS is not like any other drug. The fact is your body naturally creates testosterone,the fact that you were born a boy and not a girl was the testosterone in your mom winning out. It is a naturally occuring substance. The fact you have hair on your balls and a deeper voice and are considered a man is because of it.
Alcohol, weed, coke is a manufactured substance meant to have a psychotropic effect on your brain and nervous system. Don't mistaken what your body creates vs. what man creates in a lab.
yeah, but tren, dbol, clen, t3, diuretics, etc. aren't.
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Really no different than fucking up your body with drugs, alchohol or tobacco. None of it is worth it to me, but I still abused everthing listed. Why, I wish I knew. I have smartened up enough to give up about everything except for steroids. But I have not done a cycle since I battled prostate cancer 2 years ago. I do have the goodies ready and going to start one right after my blood work in October. They did try and blame steroids for the cancer, who knows for sure. Doc does have me on a script for test cyp now but I no longer have a prostate to develope more cancer into. :'(
Steroids do not cause prostate cancer, but it can promote cancerous cells that are allready there. Not kidding, I would advise you not to use steroids. There can be dormant cells anywhere in your body.
It's your own trip,of course....
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Listen, most of you dislike me being a little outspoken and biast in regards to steroids...
I would like to ask all the getbiggers that have used or still use, do you honest to god believe it is worth it?
I do understand the reasons for using it if you are in the pro bodybuilding business and make a living, i do agree there are way worth and more hazardous ways of making your money.
But 99.9% of getbiggers will never make it that far, yet a lot of you use steroids.
So, why? you all know it is only for the moment and if not it will possibly fuck your health.
IT'S NOT THE STEROIDS.
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people in the past could only focus on earning money, working, family and were all religious, following the same principles, they were all the same and happy that way. Everything was a lot easier. They were social and existing for the whole group.
Nowadays they re lazy, have too much time on their hands, dont believe in anything but themselves, and constantly want to dominate each others. They re falling for all the sins, luxury, glutony, sloth, greed,jealousy...
People are not even happier the more technology progresses, it's in fact the oposite. Ironic isnt it. There are two trees in the original eden. The tree of knowledge and the tree of eternity, and god said "you ve eaten the apple of the tree of knowledge, do not eat the apple that comes of the tree of eternity !"
isnt this exactly what we re attempting to do with science ? We have not been designed to be gods. We have been created to be humans, working, resting the seventh day of the week, to be happy that way following the principles of those who created us and gave us our "how to -live-" guide. Are we becoming our own gods, will we become the greys in the future, leave earth, come back to it and engeneer human beings again? What is the meaning of all of this? Why have we been created? are we some kind of food, animals, genetically created by superior beings who feed themselves with our feelings?
The only reason why people use steroids is; Vanity. To be bigger, impress, dominate other people. They dont want to inspire them, they want to belittle them, crush them, that's what makes them feel better about themselves. Everything is a constant race for bigger weapons, psychologically and physically. There is no other reason why they do it but to make themselves feel better at the expense of other people they consider untermenschs...because they re not on steroids all life long like them.
Human beings didnt need steroids to stay alive -and happy- for a loooong time before these sad times we re living in.
All these "tough" people who can inject roids but cant love women or kids, cant build a family, cant hunt, cant use a rifle, cant take fishes in the river, cant build a hut using wood, cant start a fire....
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So incorrect here. AAS is not like any other drug. The fact is your body naturally creates testosterone,the fact that you were born a boy and not a girl was the testosterone in your mom winning out. It is a naturally occuring substance. The fact you have hair on your balls and a deeper voice and are considered a man is because of it.
Alcohol, weed, coke is a manufactured substance meant to have a psychotropic effect on your brain and nervous system. Don't mistaken what your body creates vs. what man creates in a lab.
Actually I think you're a little off here... Testosterone Injections are synthetic and man made my friend. Powder cooked into oil. Hhhhhmmmmm kinda similar to other drugs that are powders and get cooked down and injected.
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I also want to throw in that the only AAS even close to something your body naturally produces is TNE. Your body doesn't naturally compound esthers to the hormones it releases either, nor does it naturally create a drug used for horses like EQ. Nandrolone isn't produced in the body last I checked. Neither in Stanzolol. Don't know where you're body created Finaplex tablets to make into Trenbolone naturally, but maybe I'm missing something.
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people in the past could only focus on earning money, working, family and were all religious, following the same principles, they were all the same and happy that way. Everything was a lot easier. They were social and existing for the whole group.
Nowadays they re lazy, have too much time on their hands, dont believe in anything but themselves, and constantly want to dominate each others. They re falling for all the sins, luxury, glutony, sloth, greed,...
People are not even happier the more technology progresses, it's in fact the oposite. Ironic isnt it. There are two trees in the original eden. The tree of knowledge and the tree of eternity, and god said "you ve eaten the apple of the tree of knowledge, do not eat the apple that comes of the tree of eternity !"
isnt this exactly what we re attempting to do with science ? We have not been designed to be gods. We have been created to be humans, working, resting the seventh day, to be happy that way following the principles of those who created us.
well you seem to have it all figured out, so why don't you throw your computer out the window and go move into the woods, smart guy?
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Listen, most of you dislike me being a little outspoken and biast in regards to steroids...
I would like to ask all the getbiggers that have used or still use, do you honest to god believe it is worth it?
I do understand the reasons for using it if you are in the pro bodybuilding business and make a living, i do agree there are way worth and more hazardous ways of making your money.
But 99.9% of getbiggers will never make it that far, yet a lot of you use steroids.
So, why? you all know it is only for the moment and if not it will possibly fuck your health.
If you're making Millions,then sure it's worth it.. But if you just want to be the biggest guy in the gym,no! It is not worth it.
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well you seem to have it all figured out, so why don't you throw your computer out the window and go move into the woods, smart guy?
LOL, I think he is closing in on a suicidal state. Deep existential angst and lack of faith in humanity/purpose.
You ok uberman?
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Like others stated - no worse than destroying your liver with alcohol. Or smoking, rec drugs etc. Id prefer the effects from 1 shot of cyp to drinking alcohol for a night.
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If you want to start making stupid statements, please consider the fact that more people die each year by falling out of their bed at night than they do from steroid abuse.
I don't know about you, but I participate in routine bouts of sleeping every night. I am not going to forfeit my sleeping habit because there's a risk my dumb ass might fall out of bed and die. The dangers about steroids are there, just like everything else in life. But the dangers are grossly exaggerated.
In the medical community, particularly endocrinology and metabolism, you can have a civil discussion regarding exogenous hormones and their application in a medical context. Real facts are discussed and debated logically and intelligently. Change that context to someone who isn't hypogonadal (aka juicing) and all of the sudden they become bias against these vile, destructive anabolic steroids. HRT = good. Supraphysiological levels = FUCKING EVIL!!!! ::)
If you inject x amount of test and other steroids it's perfectly fine. Go over the acceptable levels and all of the sudden it'll bring death to your entire family and all of your close friends. Fucking ridiculous. If you're dumb enough to fall for that drivel then you should not procreate.
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IT'S NOT THE STEROIDS.
Finally, a scientist chimes in.
Thanks for all the research you do.
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Finally, a scientist chimes in.
Thanks for all the research you do.
thank you for noticing my contributions.
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I live in Ireland. I have never drank alcohol in my life. I'm using steroids about 7yrs now. I guarantee I am far, far healthier than my friends who drink alcohol every weekend, do coke etc. Id go as far as to say with the drink culture of my country I am probably healthier than 80% of 28yr olds here, and I'm taking tons of gear
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I live in Ireland. I have never drank alcohol in my life. I'm using steroids about 7yrs now. I guarantee I am far, far healthier than my friends who drink alcohol every weekend, do coke etc. Id go as far as to say with the drink culture of my country I am probably healthier than 80% of 28yr olds here, and I'm taking tons of gear
Dead at 36.
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people in the past could only focus on earning money, working, family and were all religious, following the same principles, they were all the same and happy that way. Everything was a lot easier. They were social and existing for the whole group.
Nowadays they re lazy, have too much time on their hands, dont believe in anything but themselves, and constantly want to dominate each others. They re falling for all the sins, luxury, glutony, sloth, greed,jealousy...
People are not even happier the more technology progresses, it's in fact the oposite. Ironic isnt it. There are two trees in the original eden. The tree of knowledge and the tree of eternity, and god said "you ve eaten the apple of the tree of knowledge, do not eat the apple that comes of the tree of eternity !"
isnt this exactly what we re attempting to do with science ? We have not been designed to be gods. We have been created to be humans, working, resting the seventh day of the week, to be happy that way following the principles of those who created us and gave us our "how to -live-" guide. Are we becoming our own gods, will we become the greys in the future, leave earth, come back to it and engeneer human beings again? What is the meaning of all of this? Why have we been created? are we some kind of food, animals, genetically created by superior beings who feed themselves with our feelings?
The only reason why people use steroids is; Vanity. To be bigger, impress, dominate other people. They dont want to inspire them, they want to belittle them, crush them, that's what makes them feel better about themselves. Everything is a constant race for bigger weapons, psychologically and physically. There is no other reason why they do it but to make themselves feel better at the expense of other people they consider untermenschs...because they re not on steroids all life long like them.
Human beings didnt need steroids to stay alive -and happy- for a loooong time before these sad times we re living in.
All these "tough" people who can inject roids but cant love women or kids, cant build a family, cant hunt, cant use a rifle, cant take fishes in the river, cant build a hut using wood, cant start a fire....
You actually made sense until your last sentence.
Why is it alwys either/or with you ?...because someone takes testosterone they can't have a family or be a good person?......that's fucking utter nonsense.
So if someone shows any selfish behavior or vanity....they automatically don't have feelings and only care about themselves ?? so we should all just never wash or cut our hair or try and stay in shape ??....you post some of the dumbest shit ever
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Dead at 36.
Doubt it
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I was talking about me.
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Steroids are on par with ritalin. Anyone taking 40 doses per day is a nut it's pretty simple. However at the same time you can judge people single doses for wanting to improve there lives. I'm pretty sure once age sets in I'll be more than willing to take a little boost if it means achieving a higher quality of life.
Life and health is all about balance you can't get it all, being an adult is all about finding out whats right for you, anyone thats to caught up in either extreme is just living on there emotions/delusions.
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I think obesity in bodybuilding is a worse health problem than steroids. More guys should pull a Levrone and gear up when it's precontest time.
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The only reason why people use steroids is; Vanity. To be bigger, impress, dominate other people. They dont want to inspire them, they want to belittle them, crush them, that's what makes them feel better about themselves. Everything is a constant race for bigger weapons, psychologically and physically. There is no other reason why they do it but to make themselves feel better at the expense of other people they consider untermenschs...because they re not on steroids all life long like them.
most bodybuilders who use massive amounts of drugs do it for themselves not for anyone else. once you actually take steroids, take alot of them, take them for a long time, and put on more muscle than a regular human being can have.. you eventually realize that muscles dont make you happy. of course most guys start out bodybuilding because they want to look better than other people, they want attention, they want to feel superior. youll notice most of the biggest guys stay covered up when they are out in public, they dont want attention, they are turned off by people who are attracted to them solely for their muscle, they do start to think they are better than other people but thats only because they start to se how shallow most people are. when your regular sized you get treated like a regular person.. onc you get BIG, everybody, women and men, start to show you respect, way more respect than you deserve for being big. people suck up to you, everboydy wants to be your friend. look at kai greene when he is not competing, you will never catch him showing off his body he is always covered up. its fun being a little bit muscular and shredded but being massive is just a whole lot of work, a whole lot of drugs, a whole lot of bullshit you have to deal with. at the end of the day there is no benefit to being huge that you could not get being normal size. chicks really dont care, it doesnt effect your moneys (in fact it drains it), doesnt make you smarter.
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Moderate use, yes. Hrt definately.
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most bodybuilders who use massive amounts of drugs do it for themselves not for anyone else. once you actually take steroids, take alot of them, take them for a long time, and put on more muscle than a regular human being can have.. you eventually realize that muscles dont make you happy. of course most guys start out bodybuilding because they want to look better than other people, they want attention, they want to feel superior. youll notice most of the biggest guys stay covered up when they are out in public, they dont want attention, they are turned off by people who are attracted to them solely for their muscle, they do start to think they are better than other people but thats only because they start to se how shallow most people are. when your regular sized you get treated like a regular person.. onc you get BIG, everybody, women and men, start to show you respect, way more respect than you deserve for being big. people suck up to you, everboydy wants to be your friend. look at kai greene when he is not competing, you will never catch him showing off his body he is always covered up. its fun being a little bit muscular and shredded but being massive is just a whole lot of work, a whole lot of drugs, a whole lot of bullshit you have to deal with. at the end of the day there is no benefit to being huge that you could not get being normal size. chicks really dont care, it doesnt effect your moneys (in fact it drains it), doesnt make you smarter.
Yep. When you're all sauced up and feeling invincible you usually don't give two shits about peoples opinions. Maybe you might get loopy if tren can do that to you. But you're definitely juicing for much more than vanity alone when you start doing mutation cycles. You're a true abuser at that stage :D
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most bodybuilders who use massive amounts of drugs do it for themselves not for anyone else. once you actually take steroids, take alot of them, take them for a long time, and put on more muscle than a regular human being can have.. you eventually realize that muscles dont make you happy. of course most guys start out bodybuilding because they want to look better than other people, they want attention, they want to feel superior. youll notice most of the biggest guys stay covered up when they are out in public, they dont want attention, they are turned off by people who are attracted to them solely for their muscle, they do start to think they are better than other people but thats only because they start to se how shallow most people are. when your regular sized you get treated like a regular person.. onc you get BIG, everybody, women and men, start to show you respect, way more respect than you deserve for being big. people suck up to you, everboydy wants to be your friend. look at kai greene when he is not competing, you will never catch him showing off his body he is always covered up. its fun being a little bit muscular and shredded but being massive is just a whole lot of work, a whole lot of drugs, a whole lot of bullshit you have to deal with. at the end of the day there is no benefit to being huge that you could not get being normal size. chicks really dont care, it doesnt effect your moneys (in fact it drains it), doesnt make you smarter.
spot on bro except about the girls! the biggest advantage is roids/muscles=respect and tons of it. i remember when i was 160lbs at the club, so many guys would bump my shoulders when passing, now at 245, nobody touch me, bunch of fucking fagg0ts.. i am really legit shocked at this, people are fucking asshole, when i see a tiny guy i dont bump into him, i turn my shoulder to let him pass, people are fucking assholes and thats depressing me sometimes, i just feel like moving to a small village like the good old days when everyone knew and respected each other.
another advantage is the girls obviously.. not the most bright one lol but who cares, hot hoes and especially milf, all love guys in great shape.
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btw to answer question, if you dont have a family kids etc.. YES it is fucking worth it. it is really safe as long as you stick to hormones, even if you abuse them a bit( except orals). just dont risk it if you have kids and you love them of course lol, might have extreme bad luck like crazy infection or something, wait until they get older..
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I would like to ask all the getbiggers that have used or still use, do you honest to god believe it is worth it?
I used steroids when I was in my late teens and early twenties. Was it worth it? You have different priorities when you are a youth than when you become an adult. Some never grow up, like GH15, and remain eternal adolescents concerned with impressing other kids with big muscles. I am a huge fan of bodybuilding and follow it very avidly. I have attended dozens of contests, both amateur and pro but I don't want or try to look like the pros. I have come to the conclusion, after thinking a little, that it is simply not worth it to take the amount of drugs and withstand the physical ill-being of being on a ton of drugs unless you are making serious money/fame/pussy from it or if for some reason having huge muscles is more important for you than decades of your life. Since I can make more money on other ventures than being a pro, since no one cares about bodybuilding and since women usually don't like huge muscles, then it is not worth taking the amount of stuff needed to be 300 lbs at 5% bodyfat. Then there is the aspect of the way steroids make you feel. It's not only that they wreck your health, but being on the amount needed to be 300 lbs at 5% bodyfat makes you feel awful. Some drugs like d-bol and deca make you feel good, but others like test in high doses, trenbolone and oxymetholone make you feel terrible. It is not worth it.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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good posts by everyone in this thread...
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spot on bro except about the girls! the biggest advantage is roids/muscles=respect and tons of it. i remember when i was 160lbs at the club, so many guys would bump my shoulders when passing, now at 245, nobody touch me, bunch of fucking fagg0ts.. i am really legit shocked at this, people are fucking asshole, when i see a tiny guy i dont bump into him, i turn my shoulder to let him pass, people are fucking assholes and thats depressing me sometimes, i just feel like moving to a small village like the good old days when everyone knew and respected each other.
another advantage is the girls obviously.. not the most bright one lol but who cares, hot hoes and especially milf, all love guys in great shape.
ya of course chicks dig it but what i meant was that you can still pull mad pussy without big muscles as long as your a cool dude