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Title: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sculpture on October 09, 2006, 01:13:00 PM
Gut in perfect control.

Havent seen his waist this slim in yonks

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Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: TDK on October 09, 2006, 01:18:10 PM
I agree.  Abbew looks amazing too.  With some more size he could be up there.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sculpture on October 09, 2006, 01:25:19 PM
I hope this cutler nonsense stops soon or bodybuilding really risks making itself look like a fool.

Look at the clip of his back. Why is one side of his body waaaaayy bigger than the other.

And people say ronnie was punished at the O for a left to right assymmetry.

My question is then - why wasn't jay too?

Things that make you go hmmm.

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Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: adamthetrain on October 09, 2006, 01:27:45 PM
I hope this cutler nonsense stops soon or bodybuilding really risks making itself look like a fool.

Look at the clip of his back. Why is one side of his body waaaaayy bigger than the other.

And people say ronnie was punished at the O for a left to right assymmetry.

My question is then - why wasn't jay too?

Things that make you go hmmm.

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That back shot is not even close!  Jay CUNTLER is getting OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: unbatrainer on October 09, 2006, 01:29:16 PM
ron hands down
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sculpture on October 09, 2006, 01:30:04 PM
The judging has been farcical.

What are the powers to be trying to prove.

Cutler is kidding himself if he thinks he deserves any of these victories.

Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: gmflex on October 09, 2006, 01:34:25 PM
Jay Cutler ;)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: legbreaker on October 09, 2006, 01:39:35 PM
haha, sarcasm, you obviously don't know BB because that back shot jay and the other guy are not even in the same league as Ronnie.  Like your name your probably just being sarcastic, because that is a joke.  Ronnie is the best BB and everyone knows it, including jay. 
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: M75 on October 09, 2006, 01:42:52 PM
Ronnie is winning in that back shot without a doubt.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sgt. d on October 09, 2006, 01:49:29 PM
The judges did it again >:(
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 09, 2006, 01:51:51 PM
Ron won this show.  Even the Ronnie pole smokers here can admit Jay beat Ronnie at the other GP shows, but this wasn't one of them!

Judges: stop this shit!

yeah, wtf happened here?
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: tommywishbone on October 09, 2006, 01:54:04 PM
Jay is clearly 2nd and almost 3rd in that back comparison shot.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: fathead on October 09, 2006, 01:59:27 PM
I thought they threw out the rule that Mr Olympia doesn't lose onstage last week?  Ronnie should of won this show. i wanna see the scoresheets.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: Rich2 on October 09, 2006, 02:07:16 PM
agreed, this is Ronnie's best showing of the year by far.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: figgs on October 09, 2006, 02:07:21 PM
I thought Ronnie was being compared to 2 amateurs in that back shot! I can't believe that's Jay getting owned like a little bitch! Then what happened at the Olympia?  WTF?!
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: j3di3 on October 09, 2006, 02:08:47 PM
Ron won this show.  Even the Ronnie pole smokers here can admit Jay beat Ronnie at the other GP shows, but this wasn't one of them!

Judges: stop this shit!

QFT
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: pobrecito on October 09, 2006, 02:10:00 PM
Coleman thickness crushes gutler
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: backday on October 09, 2006, 02:17:20 PM
Yeah, he is even good from the front :)
(http://i12.tinypic.com/2ufg1uw.jpg)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sculpture on October 09, 2006, 02:21:20 PM
Maybe the most ridiculous judging decision seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 02:24:43 PM
Maybe the most ridiculous judging decision seen in a long time.

No that was the 2001 Mr Olympia  ;)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sculpture on October 09, 2006, 02:35:35 PM
No that was the 2001 Mr Olympia  ;)

See either 94 or 97 Olympias.  ;)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 02:39:05 PM
See either 94 or 97 Olympias.  ;)

Neither were as close as 2001  ;) I agree Ronnie did look better at this contest than the others but Jay was simply better conditioned and more muscular .
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sculpture on October 09, 2006, 02:42:24 PM
Wrong unfortunately.

Coleman 2001 - flat and depleted.

Yates 97 - aged, haggard, torn muscles every where, rapdily diminishing taper.

Factor in the fact that both nasser and ray of 97 were leaps and bounds ahead of cutler of 2001 and it becomes painfully clear that 97 was far more a debacle than 2001.

Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 02:44:48 PM
Wrong unfortunately.

Coleman 2001 - flat and depleted.

Yates 97 - aged, haggard, torn muscles every where, rapdily diminishing taper.

Factor in the fact that both nasser and ray of 97 were leaps and bounds ahead of cutler of 2001 and it becomes painfully clear that 97 was far more a debacle than 2001.



I'm sorry sport the judges gave Yates straight firsts in 1997 , the same judges gave Coleman just a 4 point edge in 2001 after losing both the muscularity & symmetry rounds , one of the most controversial Mr Olympia contests ever !  ;)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 02:46:06 PM
"what goes around comes around, poetic justice"

-Kool Moe Dee
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 02:47:51 PM
This is comming from a guy who is knocking Yates for torn muscles , looking haggard and diminishing taper? lol 2006 Mr Olympia anyone? add in Ronnie's lack of conditioning and you are a hypocrite sport.  ;)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sculpture on October 09, 2006, 02:52:04 PM
I'm sorry sport the judges gave Yates straight firsts in 1997 , the same judges gave Coleman just a 4 point edge in 2001 after losing both the muscularity & symmetry rounds , one of the most controversial Mr Olympia contests ever !  ;)

Once again you prove to be the idiot we all know you for by immediately running to your figures.

You've even stated you didnt agree on yates getting straight firsts in 97.

Have some consistency please.

This is comming from a guy who is knocking Yates for torn muscles , looking haggard and diminishing taper? lol 2006 Mr Olympia anyone? add in Ronnie's lack of conditioning and you are a hypocrite sport.  ;)

Dorian won the O in 97. Ronnie did'nt in 2006. Your statement means dogshit.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 03:02:37 PM
Once again you prove to be the idiot we all know you for by immediately running to your figures.

You've even stated you didnt agree on yates getting straight firsts in 97.

Have some consistency please.

Dorian won the O in 97. Ronnie did'nt in 2006. Your statement means dogshit.

Oh the figures only matter when they support your argument , typical Coleman fan , I don't agree with Yates winning in 1997 but I'm not a judge ...just based on their assesment it wasn't even close so just because you disagree it means its true? I can understand why Dorian won in 1997 Nasser could beat him in the front poses and lost from the side & the back , I still don't think he should won but I'm no judge

2006 I could very well see Ronnie losing Jay was NO Nasser 97 , Jay was clearly the better of the two were Nasser was apparently better from the front only , so I personally think that Ronnie should have lost in 2006 and the judges agreed
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 09, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
  Well, analysing the pics, I actually think Ronnie looks better than Cutler here: he's denser, fuller and his midsection is tighter. I think he should have won. ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 03:19:00 PM
Maybe from the front lol even Jay is laughing at Ronnie's back.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: IFBBwannaB on October 09, 2006, 03:35:15 PM
Maybe from the front lol even Jay is laughing at Ronnie's back.

Laughing about what? Jay got 2 really big problems in his back,that even now aret still shining.
He lack seperation and detail,no where near Coleman /Flex and other seperation and detail.
And thickness,look at Coleman back its DEEP ,even that russian guy had a thicker back then Jay.His back always look flat.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: bic_staedtler on October 09, 2006, 03:37:17 PM
...well, Ronnie's looking same as at the O far as I can see.

Check out his left quad, even in that back shot, Ron's left leg is smaller.  Tack on calves that just don't compare to Jay's....yes, it's a back shot, but Ron's back is still messed up.  Jay wins.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: backday on October 09, 2006, 03:52:05 PM
...well, Ronnie's looking same as at the O far as I can see.

Check out his left quad, even in that back shot, Ron's left leg is smaller.  Tack on calves that just don't compare to Jay's....yes, it's a back shot, but Ron's back is still messed up.  Jay wins.

(http://i12.tinypic.com/2wd8pzp.jpg)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: sgt. d on October 09, 2006, 03:55:46 PM
...well, Ronnie's looking same as at the O far as I can see.

Check out his left quad, even in that back shot, Ron's left leg is smaller.  Tack on calves that just don't compare to Jay's....yes, it's a back shot, but Ron's back is still messed up.  Jay wins.

Pass me whateva you are smoking ::)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: Kaliym73 on October 09, 2006, 04:05:12 PM
Wow, seeing these pics let's me know for sure, that bodybuilding can be a joke. I give Jay the Olympia, because Ronnie was holding water, but come on Ronnie won this show just from these few pics and I hope the Judges stop the madness, we got a new Mr. Olympia, but that doesn't mean he deserves to win every show if he's not up to par (if Jay lost, it only makes it more interesting for next year).
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: Hulkster on October 09, 2006, 04:35:11 PM
I'm sorry sport the judges gave Yates straight firsts in 1997 , the same judges gave Coleman just a 4 point edge in 2001 after losing both the muscularity & symmetry rounds , one of the most controversial Mr Olympia contests ever !  ;)

gee, and ND claims he doesn't base his arguments on numbers:

(http://www.body-building.ru/forums/uploads/post-2-1128271322.jpg)
try again ND ::)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: Hulkster on October 09, 2006, 04:38:35 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100775.0;attach=109013;image)
wow - that is the FIRST shot I have seen so far in the last week and a half where Ronnie is actually SPREADING his LATS!


could it be that Chad was telling the truth all along? ie arthritis?

ps Ronnie looks 50X better than at this show than the last few shows.

I can't wait to see more pics, based on these few it looks like he should have won!

(http://i12.tinypic.com/2ufg1uw.jpg)
his quads look much more cut than before.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: HERACLES on October 09, 2006, 04:39:31 PM
I dont know what you guys are smoking that dont see it, but ROnnie is dominating Cutler here...wow...Jays conditioning just completelty fell off by this show...Im surprised he won!  ???  Ronnie looks way better ...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100775.0;attach=109013;image)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 04:42:30 PM
Had you said 2002 I would agree with you.

The winner of the Mr. Olympia contest shouldn't have his back dwarfed by the runner up.  That is why I think Jay won this year.

How can you look at these pictures and say the judging decision was ridiculous?  At the very least I would expect you to say it was close.  What WAS ridiculous was the judges backpedalling after the prejudging and giving it to Coleman.  *sniff sniff* Do I smell a fix?

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/jayvsron2001.jpg)

Jay won both the Muscularity & symmetry rounds thats the meat & potatoes of the contest , thats where the a contest is won , he was very close to Ronnie in the posing rounds and you think there is NO controversy in that? I don't claim it was a fix but Ronnie was very very lucky.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 04:47:47 PM
gee, and ND claims he doesn't base his arguments on numbers:


try again ND ::)

I said he should have lost how am I basing 1997 on numbers? I'm just stating a fact that he won with straight firsts , and I could understand how Dorian won , Nasser looked better from the front and thats it , Dorian beat him from the side and from the back.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 09, 2006, 04:49:07 PM
I think it was a fix.  However, I still think Ronnie deserved the win, but regardless of my opinion I think it was a fix.  When the judges realized Jay was in the lead they figured out a way to put Ronnie first and did it.

I don't buy a fix and never will I think Ronnie was very lucky but do I think all the judges decided to pick Ronnie and fix the contest not in the least .
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: pobrecito on October 09, 2006, 05:05:26 PM
Pictures don't really tell the whole story in 2001. Ronnie's thickness was what gave him the win. Watch the tape.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: buffbong on October 09, 2006, 05:38:04 PM
ronnie definatly lost the o and the other shows but in these pics he looks amazing his back his huge and detaliled his abs are tight and ripped legs shredded and hes thick and wide full.  looks like ronnie was a week or so from hitting his peak for the o watch out next year jay...
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: RJB on October 09, 2006, 05:39:17 PM
I hope this cutler nonsense stops soon or bodybuilding really risks making itself look like a fool.

Look at the clip of his back. Why is one side of his body waaaaayy bigger than the other.

And people say ronnie was punished at the O for a left to right assymmetry.

My question is then - why wasn't jay too?

Things that make you go hmmm.

[img]

Holy crap.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 09, 2006, 05:47:19 PM
Maybe from the front lol even Jay is laughing at Ronnie's back.

  Yeah, well, but the back is only part of the body, and Ronnie tightened up and showed his superior stucture. I don't think Cutler should have won this one considering that Ronnie's front quads, midsection, pectoralis and structure are clearly better than Cutler's here. ::)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: AVBG on October 09, 2006, 06:31:27 PM
  Yeah, well, but the back is only part of the body, and Ronnie tightened up and showed his superior stucture. I don't think Cutler should have won this one considering that Ronnie's front quads, midsection, pectoralis and structure are clearly better than Cutler's here. ::)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Ronnie was unlucky & Jay has the momentum.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: delta9mda on October 09, 2006, 09:17:53 PM
Wow, seeing these pics let's me know for sure, that bodybuilding can be a joke. I give Jay the Olympia, because Ronnie was holding water, but come on Ronnie won this show just from these few pics and I hope the Judges stop the madness, we got a new Mr. Olympia, but that doesn't mean he deserves to win every show if he's not up to par (if Jay lost, it only makes it more interesting for next year).
one pic of one pose does not seal the deal.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: Hulkster on October 09, 2006, 09:31:58 PM
anyone care to speculate why Ronnie can spread his lats all of a sudden?

huge difference in lat flare from this show compared to the previous shows.

Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: Wombat on October 09, 2006, 09:39:12 PM
anyone care to speculate why Ronnie can spread his lats all of a sudden?

huge difference in lat flare from this show compared to the previous shows.



I'll give it a shot......Pain killers/muscle relaxers.......
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: divcom on October 09, 2006, 09:51:12 PM
anyone care to speculate why Ronnie can spread his lats all of a sudden?

huge difference in lat flare from this show compared to the previous shows.



Quartazone.  As noted...Ronnie is a better bber than Jay.  If he comes back hlthy for 07...will the judges return the crown to the rightful owner?
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: beatmaster on October 09, 2006, 10:24:03 PM
....If he comes back hlthy for 07...will the judges return the crown to the rightful owner?

Ronnie will kick some ass for sure (and i'm a jay's fan), as for the judges, i think they wanna see something new, also JOE WEIDER he's not there anymore and at the same time all the judges have a new vision (or whatever you wanna call it) of mr. olympia, jay (not that he didn't deserved it) i'm curious to see what direction the IFBB will choose!
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: bigguns23 on October 09, 2006, 10:56:33 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: benchmstr on October 09, 2006, 11:26:11 PM
fuck jay cutler everyone say it out loud its almost therapeutic
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: fathead on October 09, 2006, 11:55:58 PM
This was in Amsterdam right? I guess weed does help arthritis.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: IFBBwannaB on October 10, 2006, 12:47:37 AM
anyone care to speculate why Ronnie can spread his lats all of a sudden?

huge difference in lat flare from this show compared to the previous shows.




Figured how to manage doing that while being injured  ???

Or he just stoped slacking,its was obvious by his posing routine that he didnt give a fuck...or was in on the Olympia results.

Again...this just make everything seem more fishy.... >:(

I guess next year the O ticket price will go up alot  ;)
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: the shadow on October 10, 2006, 01:15:01 AM
I dont know what you guys are smoking that dont see it, but ROnnie is dominating Cutler here...wow...Jays conditioning just completelty fell off by this show...Im surprised he won!  ???  Ronnie looks way better ...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=100775.0;attach=109013;image)
think again..jay still pwns him from the back..
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: the shadow on October 10, 2006, 01:18:56 AM
even from the front no contest..just look at jays legs...amazing
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: divcom on October 10, 2006, 05:29:44 AM
even from the front no contest..just look at jays legs...amazing

Oh...come on and pull Jay out your mouth.  Much more thickness in Ronnie's back.  Jay looks wide because that starts at his waist line.
Title: Re: Coleman looked great at the dutch gp
Post by: D_1000 on October 10, 2006, 08:43:25 AM
f**k jay cutler everyone say it out loud its almost therapeutic

Fuck Jay Cutler.

This Ronnie is superiour.