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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #100 on: May 16, 2022, 08:10:26 PM »
Why are the judges calling for a comparison of first and fifth place?  Clearly they thought these were the top two.  Who has better legs?

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #101 on: May 16, 2022, 08:18:35 PM »
The call out here was for a triceps pose.


What's the famous Arnold quote.  If you don't have it, don't show it.

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #102 on: May 17, 2022, 01:56:29 AM »
Cherry picking photos. Mentzer looked 5th place in the lineup.

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #103 on: May 17, 2022, 11:33:54 AM »
Why are the judges calling for a comparison of first and fifth place?  Clearly they thought these were the top two.  Who has better legs?


Who Won ?????

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #104 on: May 18, 2022, 05:43:38 AM »
Arnold thought his "tricks" would go over the way they had always gone over. He thought by showing up at the last minute he would psyche everyone out, win the show and everyone would laugh it off. 

There must've been a lot of resentment towards Arnold. No one can agree on who should've won. Mike thought he should've won. Boyer, Dickerson, Walker, couldn't really say who should've won only that Arnold shouldn't have. But no one thought Dickerson looked good either. But he placed above all those other guys too.

Same with Franco in 81. For all the controversy about Franco how the hell did Dickerson place above everyone else. Then he wins in 82 with a torn pec and two torn biceps. Dickerson, at his peak had some really good qualities but even without muscle tears he didn't really look like a Mr. Olympia winner.

Fans didn't necessarily like Dickerson but his placing 2nd and winning never stirred up the resentment that Arnold did among their fellow bodybuilders.


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« Reply #105 on: May 18, 2022, 05:47:28 AM »
Arnold thought his "tricks" would go over the way they had always gone over. He thought by showing up at the last minute he would psyche everyone out, win the show and everyone would laugh it off. 

There must've been a lot of resentment towards Arnold. No one can agree on who should've won. Mike thought he should've won. Boyer, Dickerson, Walker, couldn't really say who should've won only that Arnold shouldn't have. But no one thought Dickerson looked good either. But he placed above all those other guys too.

Same with Franco in 81. For all the controversy about Franco how the hell did Dickerson place above everyone else. Then he wins in 82 with a torn pec and two torn biceps. Dickerson, at his peak had some really good qualities but even without muscle tears he didn't really look like a Mr. Olympia winner.

Fans didn't necessarily like Dickerson but his placing 2nd and winning never stirred up the resentment that Arnold did among their fellow bodybuilders.

Jealousy - No other competitor thought they should've won
only Meth head Mike - Yet Chimp face Chris gets 2nd & Mike is Seemingly ok with that.

Arnold Won - Not at His Biggest & best no - Still god enough to eek out The Win.

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #106 on: May 18, 2022, 10:37:46 AM »
Jealousy - No other competitor thought they should've won
only Meth head Mike - Yet Chimp face Chris gets 2nd & Mike is Seemingly ok with that.

Arnold Won - Not at His Biggest & best no - Still god enough to eek out The Win.
I beg to differ. General consensus among competitors themselves(!!!) was that Mentzer should have won.
As evident here:


But it's ofcourse also clear as day from pictures of comparisons that Mentzer did win aswell.

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« Reply #107 on: May 18, 2022, 12:15:45 PM »
I beg to differ. General consensus among competitors themselves(!!!) was that Mentzer should have won.
As evident here:


But it's ofcourse also clear as day from pictures of comparisons that Mentzer did win aswell.

Opinions vary- And Mentzer Didn't win - in fact 5 place   ::)
Long way off from !st.

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« Reply #108 on: May 18, 2022, 01:14:46 PM »
Mike is like the midcard wrestler who was Intercontinental champion at one time, but a select few thought he deserved the heavyweight title 40 years later ala Rick Rude or Mr. Perfect. I think both of those guys deserved a championship over this whiny, methead midget who let a defeat ruin his life  :P

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« Reply #109 on: May 19, 2022, 11:25:33 AM »
Mike is like the midcard wrestler who was Intercontinental champion at one time, but a select few thought he deserved the heavyweight title 40 years later ala Rick Rude or Mr. Perfect. I think both of those guys deserved a championship over this whiny, methead midget who let a defeat ruin his life  :P
Curt Henning was AWA world heavyweight champion before he jumped to the WWF and became Mr. Perfect.

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« Reply #110 on: May 19, 2022, 11:37:26 AM »
Curt Henning was AWA world heavyweight champion before he jumped to the WWF and became Mr. Perfect.

Rude was the WCW Champion as well, but we all know WWF is the only one that matters

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« Reply #111 on: May 19, 2022, 11:38:37 AM »
Rude was the WCW Champion as well, but we all know WWF is the only one that matters
For the little kids. The real wrestling fans didn't care for the cartoon like WWF.

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« Reply #112 on: May 19, 2022, 11:47:33 AM »
For the little kids. The real wrestling fans didn't care for the cartoon like WWF.

I was a stupid little kid during those days. Brutal and true!

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #113 on: August 15, 2022, 08:00:41 AM »
I beg to differ. General consensus among competitors themselves(!!!) was that Mentzer should have won.
As evident here:


But it's ofcourse also clear as day from pictures of comparisons that Mentzer did win aswell.

Ah, you've been watching John Little too much. He still trying to revise history by making out that Mentzer won while the evidence proves why he didn't. Little has a hard on for Mentzer which makes me suspect the 2 were once lovers. Mentzer was gay after all. Every vid John does on hit is about Mentzer but he fails to show any actual evidence of hit working. He's got a new vid out now about the 1980 olympia from mentzer's point of view.

As any of us sensible ones know that Mentzer played the victim after the 1980 olympia. He really thought he was going to win that one, lol. He couldnt even beat Zane so to think he was ever going to win against Arnold was nothing but a delusion and Mentzer did love his delusions. He really thought he was a legend in his own head while, back in the real world, he was a has been that never was. This whole conspiracy of the 1980 olympia was conjured up by Mentzer years after the contest had taken place and it goes on thanks to the likes of scam men John Heart and John Little. Gotta keep Mentzer relevant somehow even when HD hit has failed to deliver.

Mentzer claimed the the judges were all good friends with Arnold. Not true. Most were associates but not best buddies. Besides, a lot of the contenders were friends of the judges as well. Even Mentzer knew a lot of them. To say it was a fix is a fallacy. The score sheets proves this. Arnold just barely made it to the top spot. It was very close between the top 3.

The problem with mentzer is just because he won a so called perfect score at the universe did not mean he had a perfect body but mentzer, in his ever growing delusional mind, was convinced he did. When he came 5th in the 1980 olympia it did not shatter his delusion. In fact, it only strengthen his insane mind. He was now convinced Weider and the judges were against him so they "fixed" the contest for Arnold to win. Never-ending the fact that Mentzer was in poor shape. A deflated chest, a fat ass, small arms, undeveloped back, narrow shoulders, protruding gut, poor posing (he kept relaxing mid pose) these flaws are NOT going to win him an Olympia. That's a fact.

Mentzer was a WEAK man. He was being paid by Weider 200,000 a year to write articles for him. Not bad money for writing a load of bs in a muscle mag. But no, Mentzer left that as well. He could've just accepted the fact he was never going to be Mr Olympia and just settle making good money writing for Weider. No big deal.

But no. Mentzer left. Spent his money in poor investments, like buying second hand TV equipment I believe, not to mention his drug habits. He soon found himself destitute, homeless, broke, girlfriend leaving him, instutionalised a few times, arrested etc. Some role model. The guy was a complete loon.

But John Little likes to skip all these facts and tries too hard in revising history making Mentzer the hero and the rest as villains. Mentzer should be forgotten. He was a liar and a crook. Making out he only trained 3 hours a week while, in fact, he was doing w0 to 25 sets bodypart in his workouts. Just go and ask John Terrilli who trained with Mentzer. It certainly was not low volume.

Best stop listening to Mentzer worshippers like John Little. That guy was always putting his name on scam training books like body of science and power factor. All useless and it certainly didn't do Little any favours as he is...Little.

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #114 on: August 15, 2022, 10:03:23 AM »
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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #115 on: August 15, 2022, 10:18:46 AM »
Is there a more iconic pic of a BBer in normal clothes than this?


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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #116 on: August 15, 2022, 11:04:00 AM »
Anyone that says mike was not a good bodybuilder is a fucking moron

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« Reply #117 on: August 15, 2022, 11:21:29 AM »
This boring old debate again? Mike was good. Yet when compared to Arnold he looked like a short blocky 12 year old boy. Just look at the image overlays on the web. Arnold absolutely destroys Mike. Out massed and outclassed. Better charisma. Onstage presence everything. Even at Arnold's weakest showing he decimated all competition on the stage that day. These crybabies did not bring a good enough package to compete. Lol
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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #118 on: August 15, 2022, 11:26:47 AM »
Anyone that says mike was not a good bodybuilder is a fucking moron

Are there many who say he didn't have a Good physique ?
he was one of the best in his era - only Didn't win The Olympia.

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #119 on: August 15, 2022, 11:42:41 AM »
Is there a more iconic pic of a BBer in normal clothes than this?


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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #120 on: August 15, 2022, 11:43:50 AM »


That’s the first one to come to mind for me. Not that cruster Mentzer

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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #121 on: August 15, 2022, 11:44:51 AM »
Mentzer lost and tons of people can`t accept it even today.......fucking retards!  LOL  ;D

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« Reply #122 on: August 15, 2022, 01:56:56 PM »
That’s the first one to come to mind for me. Not that cruster Mentzer

rambone did you know sergio claimed he got into his best shape when he trained with arthur jones down in florida he said that white son of a bitch pushed me hard.

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« Reply #123 on: August 15, 2022, 03:10:37 PM »
rambone did you know sergio claimed he got into his best shape when he trained with arthur jones down in florida he said that white son of a bitch pushed me hard.

Haha I totally forgot about this and appreciate you sharing it. Any pics during this time?

I think these are some





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Re: The Mentzer files- Lost and found
« Reply #124 on: August 15, 2022, 03:23:49 PM »
Mike Mentzer

1980

Olympia - IFBB, 5th
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Arnold Schwarzenegger

1980
Olympia - IFBB, Winner

NUFF FUCKING SAID !!!