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first off i'd like to give credit to the mighty buselmo for coming forward and dispelling any current beliefs and notions about what it takes to get in shape. the guy speaks the truth and its refreshing to say the least.

heres the deal- i have been for the better part of my training/competing life a 'strict dieting'; guy. this means all ratios and calories were measured. nothing given to chance. steroids were used but not relied upon to give me the size and conditioning i wanted.

i never in all those years achieved what i thought of as my full potential competitively, and that played a big part in why i quit- i just figured i didnt have the genetics (the other part being i honestly hated being onstage).

over the past 2 years i started gh. my shit is good. as is any anabolics i have used. one thing i have been very lucky with is getting good gear. i built a good bit of quality in this time- no not size, quality- i didnt want nor do i now want to get bigger. but for the past two years i have had an almost impossible time getting that last little bit of stubborn fat off no matter how hard i dieted. by stubborn fat i mean the last 2% to get me shredded looking to the point you dont need a diuretic to see the quality of the muscle or conditioning- i have always thought that if you were lean enough you wont need a diuretic to look good and i still feel this way, unless your competing, much different story as those stage light as very unforgiving- anyone can look good in their living room.

so, i have sat sat with unhappily with a bf level for the last 2 years i couldnt shake off which was frustratiing to say the least as every time i got lean, i got way to stringy and started to lose too much lean. it was a tricky balancing act for sure.

fast forward to that last two weeks- and this is where buselmo's truths come into play. i went to south american on vacation. i took with me enough eq, winstrol and my prop for 3 weeks cause i am juice monkey at heart and this is what we do- we never stray far from the syringe kids- if you want to be big you gotta learn this rule.- no i wont tell you how i transported it- pm me if you want to know. in that amount of time i trained twice. two upper body workouts. i didnt count calories. i didnt count protein but i can bet it was less than 100 grams a day- for a period of 4-5 days when i was in the mountains i can assure you it was less than 50. i existed on grains, and fruits. i was climbing thru mountain passes, sometimes elevations of over 2000M in one days time- picture being on a stair climber for 6-7 hours a day.

i got back yesterday and when i looked in the mirror (cause you really dont have any idea how your body has changed till you see it in the same mirror and lighting you always are used to seeing it) i had lost that final 2%. i was bigger and rounder than i have ever been. my legs/calves which i havent trained now for a month are considerably fuller from all the climbing. all on less than 100 grams of protein a day.

heres the moral of the story and guys like gh and buselmo and will grant etc etc will keep pounding away at it till you all get it- THIS IS A DRUG DRIVEN PAST TIME AND RESULTS ARE TOTALLY DEPENDANT ON INTAKE AND NOTHING LESS. fuck calories. fuck protein. fuck macros. fuck gurus- take your steroids like good little boys and girls and a lot of them. eat all the carbs you need to give you whatever fuel your body will need to keep moving and working, and if you cant afford 15units of gh a day, get your lazy ass on a stair climber and grind out some long ass intense cardio sessions to get your metabolism going and burn off the baby fat. thats it. and if you can afford the gh, then fuck the stairclimber too.

why did i take the time to write this- cause for the most part i come here to bust balls and have fun. cause i know there are guys on here in the same boat as me- good physiques who have been busting their ass for years dieting and counting macros. its not necessary and it'll be hard for you to get your mind around it after decades of being fed the same ignorant bullshit about 'dieting' cause i was the same way. diet diet diet. keep the protein up. what a joke.

heres my challenge for guys who are lean but trying to get off that last 2 %- try it for two weeks. eat whatever macros you want. dont stuff yourself full- by now you should know your bodies well enough to know when you need fuel and when you dont. and give your body only enough to keep going. exist on coffee the rest of the time as a stim. eat when you are hungry- fuck the clock. do some cardio if you cant afford the gh. come back here and tell me thats you didnt lose that bf, get fuller and look better.

the mighty no one has spoken. let all who read his words be the wiser for it.

your welcome bitches

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Re: read this if your serious about getting in shape and want the truth
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 08:32:56 AM »
I'm not reading all that.

Balls a danglin!! ;D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: read this if your serious about getting in shape and want the truth
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 08:34:48 AM »
Great.  Another "do steroids and get in shape" thread.


People are lazy, self-absorbed, and ego-driven. 

Props to the natties out there.

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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 08:34:51 AM »
 ???

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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 08:38:41 AM »
And I've been saying this all along.


The magazines just pound this high-protein meal B.S into your heads over and over. NONE of it is substantiated.


Many controlled and referenced studies have been done on the topic. The only folks who truly need a little higher protein are burn victims, those healing bones or pregnant women.


The only real difference I can see for myself is that I am not a "juice monkey" and I don't use Gh. I've done quite well for an average gym rat. No high protein. Ever.

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Re: read this if your serious about getting in shape and want the truth
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 08:41:21 AM »
Buselmo is legit - pharma grade info  ;)
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 08:43:04 AM »
And I've been saying this all along.


The magazines just pound this high-protein meal B.S into your heads over and over. NONE of it is substantiated.


Many controlled and referenced studies have been done on the topic. The only folks who truly need a little higher protein are burn victims, those healing bones or pregnant women.


The only real difference I can see for myself is that I am not a "juice monkey" and I don't use Gh. I've done quite well for an average gym rat. No high protein. Ever.

thats why i wrote this in part. cause for the past 15 years you get the mindset that you need your protein. even though you hear others say you dont you never try it yourself for whatever stupid reason. the protein myth is just that- a myth.
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 08:43:57 AM »
naturals just dont appreciate how pointless their efforts really are

I'd feel bad for them if the majority werent such self-righteous pussies

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 08:44:26 AM »
Great.  Another "do steroids and get in shape" thread.


People are lazy, self-absorbed, and ego-driven. 

Props to the natties out there.

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Re: read this if your serious about getting in shape and want the truth
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 08:44:38 AM »
*throws a chicken breast to a trash bin and pops a cap of a new vial*

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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 08:44:44 AM »
???

7k posts and i dont know who you are.

contribute or shut the fuck up.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 08:45:51 AM »
I'm not reading all that.

Balls a danglin!! ;D

asshole.

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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 08:46:45 AM »
no one, I've been eating around 1 gram protein/lb of body mass, how much would you say is enough? I find myself stressing about how much protein I take in.

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 08:52:03 AM »
I  know nothing about Gh  ,steroids...etc , but  I always eat 30-40g of protein e/ meal , when I want to gain weight I eat more carbs when I want to lose weight I eat less carbs.

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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 09:00:24 AM »
no one, I've been eating around 1 gram protein/lb of body mass, how much would you say is enough? I find myself stressing about how much protein I take in.

dude the point is if your on enough gear you dont need a lot of protein. fuck i was getting 50 grams a DAY. im 245 pounds of lbm.

thats the point of this thread. dont stress your protein intake. eat 50-100 grams a day, eat carbs of you want them. do some cardio if you cant afford the gh. you'll be fuller and leaner when your done.
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 09:03:11 AM »
I  know nothing about Gh  ,steroids...etc , but  I always eat 30-40g of protein e/ meal , when I want to gain weight I eat more carbs when I want to lose weight I eat less carbs.

carbs are where its at. for 15 yeas i thought they were bad due to the misinformation that gets preached about the value of high protein or 1gm per pound of lbm diets. in the last 3 weeks i saw how important carbs were, and how unimportant protein is in the scheme of things.
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 09:13:49 AM »
carbs are where its at. for 15 yeas i thought they were bad due to the misinformation that gets preached about the value of high protein or 1gm per pound of lbm diets. in the last 3 weeks i saw how important carbs were, and how unimportant protein is in the scheme of things.
I agree. I was forced to drop my "protein intake" the last months due to financial problems (Im a student)..upped the carbs (since they are cheaper anyway)...and didnt notice shit, Im exactly the same. Ok, maybe I have smoothed out a bit but thats due to my comming of the drugs for a while.

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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 09:14:33 AM »
thats why i wrote this in part. cause for the past 15 years you get the mindset that you need your protein. even though you hear others say you dont you never try it yourself for whatever stupid reason. the protein myth is just that- a myth.

Yup....and it's funny watching people's faces when you tell them what you eat and it flies in the face of everything they have read in the stupid magazines for the last 10 years...It's like they just found out there is no Santa Claus LOL

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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2011, 09:23:31 AM »
Yup....and it's funny watching people's faces when you tell them what you eat and it flies in the face of everything they have read in the stupid magazines for the last 10 years...It's like they just found out there is no Santa Claus LOL
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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2011, 09:27:36 AM »
Speaking of "don't worry about protein." There is a natural bodybuilder (NOT lifetime natural, btw) named Markus Reinhardt who actually REDUCES his protein intake before comps and eats more carbs. He was a friend of Mike Mentzer, who also was a "low protein" and high carb guy.

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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2011, 09:29:10 AM »
EXCELLENT THREAD

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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2011, 09:29:57 AM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

HA...it's so true.

Just last week this guy Matt I know was going on about taking this type of protein pre-WO, and this other kind post-WO....and how he takes in 1.5 grams per pound. and i'm like..."that's a waste of time and money...I eat about 100 grams a day...I think, really don't keep track"....and you could see the gears grinding in his brain as he tried to process what I was saying to him  ;D

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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2011, 09:32:32 AM »
first off i'd like to give credit to the mighty buselmo for coming forward and dispelling any current beliefs and notions about what it takes to get in shape. the guy speaks the truth and its refreshing to say the least.

heres the deal- i have been for the better part of my training/competing life a 'strict dieting'; guy. this means all ratios and calories were measured. nothing given to chance. steroids were used but not relied upon to give me the size and conditioning i wanted.

i never in all those years achieved what i thought of as my full potential competitively, and that played a big part in why i quit- i just figured i didnt have the genetics (the other part being i honestly hated being onstage).

over the past 2 years i started gh. my shit is good. as is any anabolics i have used. one thing i have been very lucky with is getting good gear. i built a good bit of quality in this time- no not size, quality- i didnt want nor do i now want to get bigger. but for the past two years i have had an almost impossible time getting that last little bit of stubborn fat off no matter how hard i dieted. by stubborn fat i mean the last 2% to get me shredded looking to the point you dont need a diuretic to see the quality of the muscle or conditioning- i have always thought that if you were lean enough you wont need a diuretic to look good and i still feel this way, unless your competing, much different story as those stage light as very unforgiving- anyone can look good in their living room.

so, i have sat sat with unhappily with a bf level for the last 2 years i couldnt shake off which was frustratiing to say the least as every time i got lean, i got way to stringy and started to lose too much lean. it was a tricky balancing act for sure.

fast forward to that last two weeks- and this is where buselmo's truths come into play. i went to south american on vacation. i took with me enough eq, winstrol and my prop for 3 weeks cause i am juice monkey at heart and this is what we do- we never stray far from the syringe kids- if you want to be big you gotta learn this rule.- no i wont tell you how i transported it- pm me if you want to know. in that amount of time i trained twice. two upper body workouts. i didnt count calories. i didnt count protein but i can bet it was less than 100 grams a day- for a period of 4-5 days when i was in the mountains i can assure you it was less than 50. i existed on grains, and fruits. i was climbing thru mountain passes, sometimes elevations of over 2000M in one days time- picture being on a stair climber for 6-7 hours a day.

i got back yesterday and when i looked in the mirror (cause you really dont have any idea how your body has changed till you see it in the same mirror and lighting you always are used to seeing it) i had lost that final 2%. i was bigger and rounder than i have ever been. my legs/calves which i havent trained now for a month are considerably fuller from all the climbing. all on less than 100 grams of protein a day.

heres the moral of the story and guys like gh and buselmo and will grant etc etc will keep pounding away at it till you all get it- THIS IS A DRUG DRIVEN PAST TIME AND RESULTS ARE TOTALLY DEPENDANT ON INTAKE AND NOTHING LESS. fuck calories. fuck protein. fuck macros. fuck gurus- take your steroids like good little boys and girls and a lot of them. eat all the carbs you need to give you whatever fuel your body will need to keep moving and working, and if you cant afford 15units of gh a day, get your lazy ass on a stair climber and grind out some long ass intense cardio sessions to get your metabolism going and burn off the baby fat. thats it. and if you can afford the gh, then fuck the stairclimber too.

why did i take the time to write this- cause for the most part i come here to bust balls and have fun. cause i know there are guys on here in the same boat as me- good physiques who have been busting their ass for years dieting and counting macros. its not necessary and it'll be hard for you to get your mind around it after decades of being fed the same ignorant bullshit about 'dieting' cause i was the same way. diet diet diet. keep the protein up. what a joke.

heres my challenge for guys who are lean but trying to get off that last 2 %- try it for two weeks. eat whatever macros you want. dont stuff yourself full- by now you should know your bodies well enough to know when you need fuel and when you dont. and give your body only enough to keep going. exist on coffee the rest of the time as a stim. eat when you are hungry- fuck the clock. do some cardio if you cant afford the gh. come back here and tell me thats you didnt lose that bf, get fuller and look better.

the mighty no one has spoken. let all who read his words be the wiser for it.

your welcome bitches

(and a punch in the cock for the first person who says 'im not reading all that- coles notes please')












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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2011, 09:35:04 AM »
I never thought getting in shape was so easy , only after i upped my gh dose to 10ius + daily..I was  too always counting and measuring food , endless hrs of cardio..upped my gh , no cardio , leaner and having a cheat meal daily and in better condition...it's a drug game, period