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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #100 on: March 28, 2006, 06:40:41 PM »
I can certainly understand that you are skeptical. It is wise to be skeptical! But given his tremendous size and many years of lifting, I don't think his claims are that outrageous. I have met many people who have acquaintances or family members in other states who possess unbelievable size and strength. He is probably just one of those people.

As usual, I find that LuciusFox is right on the money. How many times have we as extremely hypertrophied advanced bodybuilders had countless people come up to us and tell us that their friend's wife's cousin's uncle is twice our size, eats 30kcals per day, and benches 900 raw (drug free, of course)? Issac is likely just one of these people.

And being the obviously honorable man that he is, he likely refuses to compete in bodybuilding, powerlifting, or strongman competition because he feels it would be unfair to the others. Could you imagine the catastrophic effect it would have on these sports if everyone else got discouraged and stopped competing due to the domination of guys like Issac and a few others who possess inhuman size, strength, and athleticism but don't compete?
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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #101 on: March 28, 2006, 06:55:09 PM »
I can certainly understand that you are skeptical. It is wise to be skeptical! But given his tremendous size and many years of lifting, I don't think his claims are that outrageous. I have met many people who have acquaintances or family members in other states who possess unbelievable size and strength. He is probably just one of those people.

First of all, size and experience do not necessarily mean your strong. Second of all, this clown claims to be able to rep almost 100 pounds more than the heaviest raw bench on record. Then he refuses to back it up, even though he's had plenty of opportunities to do so. Isaac Nesser is a FRAUD, plain and simple.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #102 on: March 28, 2006, 07:01:39 PM »

 Why should it be surprising that a man of his size and lifting experience is capable of such feats of strength?

Maybe because the strongest bench press specialists on the planet can't even do them. "I will match anyone in a basketball shooting competition" what a fucking deuchebag

Plus he's not even that big, look at his picture, 29 inch arms my ass: http://www.drsize74.com/gallery5A.html

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #103 on: March 28, 2006, 08:22:02 PM »
As usual, I find that LuciusFox is right on the money. How many times have we as extremely hypertrophied advanced bodybuilders had countless people come up to us and tell us that their friend's wife's cousin's uncle is twice our size, eats 30kcals per day, and benches 900 raw (drug free, of course)? Issac is likely just one of these people.

And being the obviously honorable man that he is, he likely refuses to compete in bodybuilding, powerlifting, or strongman competition because he feels it would be unfair to the others. Could you imagine the catastrophic effect it would have on these sports if everyone else got discouraged and stopped competing due to the domination of guys like Issac and a few others who possess inhuman size, strength, and athleticism but don't compete?

 I have never seen a more informed or better argued post. Genetics freaks like Nesser stay on the sideline because of the mercy and kindness of their hearts. Who would even bother going to a powerlifting contest when they know that Isaac will enter the room, quickly perform the three lifts with world record weight, and just as quickly exit? It would cause the powerlifting industry to crash.

 What would parents say? What happens when little Billy asks, "Mommy, can I do anything when I grow up?" She will have to answer, "No, son. There are freaks like Isaac Nesser that you cannot surpass in size and strength. You should just give up." Millions of children would be heartbroken.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #104 on: March 28, 2006, 08:24:36 PM »
First of all, size and experience do not necessarily mean your strong. Second of all, this clown claims to be able to rep almost 100 pounds more than the heaviest raw bench on record. Then he refuses to back it up, even though he's had plenty of opportunities to do so. Isaac Nesser is a FRAUD, plain and simple.

 He would show the world but he does not want to be accused of using steroids. Hs measurements are legitimate. You probably haven't seen him in the Guiness book because his records were subsequently broken.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #105 on: March 28, 2006, 09:25:11 PM »
He would show the world but he does not want to be accused of using steroids. Hs measurements are legitimate. You probably haven't seen him in the Guiness book because his records were subsequently broken.

No I haven't seen him there because he isn't there and never was. I checked with Guiness today, they don't keep a "most muscular arm" record, they do have a largest chest record and it is held by Robert Earl Hughes born in 1926. His chest measured 10 feet 4 inches. That's 124 inches, 50 inches or 4 ft 2 inches bigger than Nasser's "supposed" record.

Like I said, Nasser is a bullshit artist and you should feel like a complete dumbass for believing some jackass on the internet that claims shit without providing a shred of proof.

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« Reply #106 on: March 28, 2006, 10:22:58 PM »
No I haven't seen him there because he isn't there and never was. I checked with Guiness today, they don't keep a "most muscular arm" record, they do have a largest chest record and it is held by Robert Earl Hughes born in 1926. His chest measured 10 feet 4 inches. That's 124 inches, 50 inches or 4 ft 2 inches bigger than Nasser's "supposed" record.

Like I said, Nasser is a bullshit artist and you should feel like a complete dumbass for believing some jackass on the internet that claims shit without providing a shred of proof.

 But Arnold was also in the Guiness book for world's most muscular arm, way back when. They measured it at 22 inches. And the largest chest record belonged to an enormously obese fellow. It was not a muscular chest

 If what you are saying is true then it sounds like Nesser measured himself, realized that he had the largest muscular arms and chest in the world, attempted to have the Guiness book recognize these facts, and was then informed that they kept no such records. It is a shame that someone who bench presses in excess of 800 pounds for reps and had the world's largest muscular arms and chest should have to lie about anything.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #107 on: March 28, 2006, 10:36:13 PM »
Hughs weighed 1000+ lbs.  That is the only reason his measurements were so large.
 
This Lucius Fox character...........and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this guy is obviously mentally ill. Look at the attention he is getting. ...........and some naive people actually believe him. That is all he is looking for. I am willing to put up $25,000 of my own money if this guy can come out and bench press just 750 RAW....in an official/sanctioned meet. The kicker is..........he only has to pay me $10,000 if he doesn't do it. Why not ????? I think it's a great bet. Put your money where your mouth is Lucius. His statements completely insult anyone who has ever competed in powerlifting, especially the true record holders.

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« Reply #108 on: March 28, 2006, 10:49:59 PM »
Hughs weighed 1000+ lbs.  That is the only reason his measurements were so large.
 
This Lucius Fox character...........and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this guy is obviously mentally ill. Look at the attention he is getting. ...........and some naive people actually believe him. That is all he is looking for. I am willing to put up $25,000 of my own money if this guy can come out and bench press just 750 RAW....in an official/sanctioned meet. The kicker is..........he only has to pay me $10,000 if he doesn't do it. Why not ????? I think it's a great bet. Put your money where your mouth is Lucius. His statements completely insult anyone who has ever competed in powerlifting, especially the true record holders.

 Powerlifters should not feel bad. They work just as hard, if not harder, than Nesser does. He performs these feats not because he is the hardest worker, but because he has insane, grizzly bear-like genetics. He will not take the bet because you will just accuse him of using steroids after he reps the 750 easily. He doesn't need his wife asking him if he is using drugs. He doesn't need his employer looking into it either and I don't think he wants his kids to hear someone calling Daddy a cheater. You think I want attention? Look at my posts per day. I rarely post on this site because I won't write unless I have something important to say. I understand why you are skeptical though. Message boards often have members who are always joking around.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #109 on: March 29, 2006, 04:44:06 AM »
But Arnold was also in the Guiness book for world's most muscular arm, way back when. They measured it at 22 inches. And the largest chest record belonged to an enormously obese fellow. It was not a muscular chest

 If what you are saying is true then it sounds like Nesser measured himself, realized that he had the largest muscular arms and chest in the world, attempted to have the Guiness book recognize these facts, and was then informed that they kept no such records. It is a shame that someone who bench presses in excess of 800 pounds for reps and had the world's largest muscular arms and chest should have to lie about anything.

No, what I'm saying is there ISN'T a most muscular arm entry in the Guinness Book of Records, think about it have you ever personally seen such a thing? Look I understand you have some kind of weird disorder that makes you believe stupid bullshit, but have you seen a pic of nesser measuring his arm or chest? Have you seen him doing any lifting at all? No, you haven't and neither has anybody else, and this argument that he won't do it because people might accuse him of doing steroids is a LAME excuse, it doesn't even make sense. He could easily compete at a DRUG TESTED meet.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #110 on: March 29, 2006, 07:34:34 AM »
I think I have additional insights as to why Isaac doesn't compete. For one thing, when you look at his pictures it's quite obvious that he is actually a rather shy, humble person. He seems to be reluctant to even pose at all, and tends to keep himself pretty well covered up. He seems to be almost hiding in all those dark photos.

As further testament to his humility, Isaac has not even discussed his educational accomplishments at all, and has only briefly mentioned his significant accomplishments in the business world.

It doesn't take an Einstein to deduce that this man is very well educated; after all he is called "Dr. Size". As we all know, to be called "Dr.", one must have completed several years of advanced education beyond the undergraduate college level; this could be in the form of a PhD, MD, DC, JD, or any combination thereof.

But Isaac - being an unpretentious, practical, humble man - remains true to his roots. Rather than get wrapped up in all the red tape and baggage that the bureaucratic, highly political worlds of academia, medicine, and law offer, he chose to become a true entrepreneur in control of his own destiny.

Rather than engage himself in futile attempts to cure cancer, file class action lawsuits against big corporations, realign spinal cords, or attempt to educate snot nosed, unappreciative students, Isaac chose to make a real difference in the world around him. He has dedicated his life to providing stylish, reasonably priced clothing to the tall and fat people of this world.

Seeing that Isaac is such a practical, humble humanitarian of infinite wisdom, we can clearly see why he has chosen not to compete. His gorilla-like genes would not make competition fair at all. And if he ever decided to step over to the darkside and realize the 5-10% advantage, we'd be seeing a raw bench press of as much as 907.5 pounds, arms as large as 31.9", and a muscular bodyweight as heavy as 401.5 pounds - almost as big as the late Trevor Smith!... :o
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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #111 on: March 29, 2006, 07:48:05 AM »
No, what I'm saying is there ISN'T a most muscular arm entry in the Guinness Book of Records, think about it have you ever personally seen such a thing? Look I understand you have some kind of weird disorder that makes you believe stupid bullshit, but have you seen a pic of nesser measuring his arm or chest? Have you seen him doing any lifting at all? No, you haven't and neither has anybody else, and this argument that he won't do it because people might accuse him of doing steroids is a LAME excuse, it doesn't even make sense. He could easily compete at a DRUG TESTED meet.

 I looked on the website and you are right, they did not have a largest muscular arm entry. They either never had it, and the scenario I mentioned in the second paragraph of my previous response occured, or they just removed it. I really think that I have seen it before though. Even if Isaac competed in a drug-tested event, absolutely noone would believe he was drug-free when he bench pressed more than the world's strongest non-tested lifters. You and I both know this. Getbig would be permeated with cries of "steroids" and "juicer".

 You are right about him measuring himself, too. He probably has not done it because people would just accuse him of using a pre-shrunk tape measure anyway, so why bother?

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #112 on: March 29, 2006, 07:49:47 AM »
I looked on the website and you are right, they did not have a largest muscular arm entry. They either never had it, and the scenario I mentioned in the second paragraph of my previous response occured, or they just removed it. I really think that I have seen it before though. Even if Isaac competed in a drug-tested event, absolutely noone would believe he was drug-free when he bench pressed more than the world's strongest non-tested lifters. You and I both know this. Getbig would be permeated with cries of "steroids" and "juicer".

 You are right about him measuring himself, too. He probably has not done it because people would just accuse him of using a pre-shrunk tape measure anyway, so why bother?

Nice fake account. Who is it, BackDoorBruised?
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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #113 on: March 29, 2006, 07:51:54 AM »
I think I have additional insights as to why Isaac doesn't compete. For one thing, when you look at his pictures it's quite obvious that he is actually a rather shy, humble person. He seems to be reluctant to even pose at all, and tends to keep himself pretty well covered up. He seems to be almost hiding in all those dark photos.

As further testament to his humility, Isaac has not even discussed his educational accomplishments at all, and has only briefly mentioned his significant accomplishments in the business world.

It doesn't take an Einstein to deduce that this man is very well educated; after all he is called "Dr. Size". As we all know, to be called "Dr.", one must have completed several years of advanced education beyond the undergraduate college level; this could be in the form of a PhD, MD, DC, JD, or any combination thereof.

But Isaac - being an unpretentious, practical, humble man - remains true to his roots. Rather than get wrapped up in all the red tape and baggage that the bureaucratic, highly political worlds of academia, medicine, and law offer, he chose to become a true entrepreneur in control of his own destiny.

Rather than engage himself in futile attempts to cure cancer, file class action lawsuits against big corporations, realign spinal cords, or attempt to educate snot nosed, unappreciative students, Isaac chose to make a real difference in the world around him. He has dedicated his life to providing stylish, reasonably priced clothing to the tall and fat people of this world.

Seeing that Isaac is such a practical, humble humanitarian of infinite wisdom, we can clearly see why he has chosen not to compete. His gorilla-like genes would not make competition fair at all. And if he ever decided to step over to the darkside and realize the 5-10% advantage, we'd be seeing a raw bench press of as much as 907.5 pounds, arms as large as 31.9", and a muscular bodyweight as heavy as 401.5 pounds - almost as big as the late Trevor Smith!... :o

 You have great points. As America's waistline grows, more clothes are needed for large men. Isaac knows this, and like the Good Lord, he provides. The fact that he has earned his Doctorate is very impressive as well, few in the Iron Game have such credentials. I only wish he would prove these claims and shut these haters up, but he has his reasons for staying in the shadows.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #114 on: March 29, 2006, 08:06:37 AM »
Nice fake account. Who is it, BackDoorBruised?

 It sounds like you a projecting your own worries onto me. I suspect it is you who have a fake account!

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #115 on: March 29, 2006, 11:20:52 PM »
He won't take the bet because I may accuse him of taking steroids?
I don't care what he takes....or doesn't take. I'm just asking him to lift 75% of the weight he claims to lift....that's it. I'm willing to pay him....lol.
I believe the only drug he may take is LSD.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #116 on: March 30, 2006, 02:32:39 PM »
He won't take the bet because I may accuse him of taking steroids?
I don't care what he takes....or doesn't take. I'm just asking him to lift 75% of the weight he claims to lift....that's it. I'm willing to pay him....lol.
I believe the only drug he may take is LSD.


 He doesn't want to take your money. For all he knows, you are a family man who really needs that money.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #117 on: April 02, 2006, 12:24:25 AM »
Greg Kovacs is the strongest mo fo on the planet.

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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #118 on: April 02, 2006, 08:04:58 AM »
Hughs weighed 1000+ lbs.  That is the only reason his measurements were so large.
 
This Lucius Fox character...........and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this guy is obviously mentally ill. Look at the attention he is getting. ...........and some naive people actually believe him. That is all he is looking for. I am willing to put up $25,000 of my own money if this guy can come out and bench press just 750 RAW....in an official/sanctioned meet. The kicker is..........he only has to pay me $10,000 if he doesn't do it. Why not ????? I think it's a great bet. Put your money where your mouth is Lucius. His statements completely insult anyone who has ever competed in powerlifting, especially the true record holders.
i'd go one better, i would give him the money if he did it and he wouldn't owe me a thing if he didn't, that's how sure i am that he couldn't do it, let me load seven 45's and a quarter on each side which isn't even 750 but it will do.
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Re: Why do some pros lie?
« Reply #119 on: April 02, 2006, 08:06:12 AM »
um because bodybuilding is a deceptive sport?

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« Reply #120 on: April 02, 2006, 01:14:17 PM »
i'd go one better, i would give him the money if he did it and he wouldn't owe me a thing if he didn't, that's how sure i am that he couldn't do it, let me load seven 45's and a quarter on each side which isn't even 750 but it will do.

 You would probably be afraid to be in the same room as him. He's claimed to have killed full-grown elephants with his bare hands. You guys really underestimate him.

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« Reply #121 on: April 02, 2006, 01:15:24 PM »
You would probably be afraid to be in the same room as him. He's claimed to have killed full-grown elephants with his bare hands. You guys really underestimate him.
i'm terrified. ::)
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« Reply #122 on: April 02, 2006, 01:18:38 PM »
i'm terrified. ::)

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