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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: willdafrog on October 15, 2007, 03:23:39 AM
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Just like a beauty pageant, the most beautiful woman doesn’t win.
It is about the person as a whole (the way she represents herself, speaks, and so on…)
Just like bodybuilding, the person with the best body doesn’t win.
Jay speaks well and carries the sport better than others. That is why he won the “O.”
Bodybuilding is about the personality not just the body. So, this should lay to rest why
Jay Cutler is the reigning champion. Yes, he didn’t have the condition or symmetry,
But he speaks well compared to the other athletes. Case closed!
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Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman oozed personality and charisma ::)
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Just like a beauty pageant, the most beautiful woman doesn’t win.
It is about the person as a whole (the walk she represents herself, speaks, and so on…)
Just like bodybuilding, the person with the best body doesn’t win.
Jay speaks well and carries the sport better than others. That is why he won the “O.”
Bodybuilding is about the personality not just the body. So, this should lay to rest why
Jay Cutler is the reigning champion. Yes, he didn’t have the condition or symmetry,
But he speaks well compared to the other athletes. Case closed!
This may be the most retarded post in getbig history. Seriously.
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The sport is changing into a new direction for the good. Getting mainstream takes a well spoken person, not just the body.
I agree with the judges decision about electing Jay as he makes the better speaker. What would have Victor been good for?
I like the way this sport is changing, people should be looked at more than meat. Jay all the way!
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The sport is changing into a new direction for the good. Getting mainstream takes a well spoken person, not just the body.
I agree with the judges decision about electing Jay as he makes the better speaker. What would have Victor been good for?
I like the way this sport is changing, people should be looked at more than meat. Jay all the way!
Jay, its good see you posting again, btw, bodybuilding is not a sport.
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The sport is changing into a new direction for the good. Getting mainstream takes a well spoken person, not just the body.
I agree with the judges decision about electing Jay as he makes the better speaker. What would have Victor been good for?
I like the way this sport is changing, people should be looked at more than meat. Jay all the way!
Jay himself said people laugh at him in FHM magazine. He's too big to be accepted. You're being ridiculous. Regular people think his muscles are ugly.
He even said his own father doesnt like bodybuilding, get over your well spoken widely accepted beauty pageant act.
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Jay himself said people laugh at him in FHM magazine. He's too big to be accepted. You're being ridiculous. Regular people think his muscles are ugly.
chicks dig muscles brah
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Another fan boy trying to rationalize the win and refusing to accept Muscletech's influence.
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Well, bodybuilding is about muscle and who has the most. Jay is the clear winner! Conditioning is secondary!
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Another fan boy trying to rationalize the win and refusing to accept Muscletech's influence.
No, I agree that Muscletech had an influence on the outcome. But that is what makes Jay the champ. He has a lot more support and sponsors. It goes back to his ability to speak well.
Without Mucscletech, would there be an "O?" We have to tip our hats to Jay for making the "O" happening.
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another fanboy
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No, I agree that Muscletech had an influence on the outcome. But that is what makes Jay the champ. He has a lot more support and sponsors. It goes back to his ability to speak well.
Without Mucscletech, would there be an "O?" We have to tip our hats to Jay for making the "O" happening.
stfu already >:( ;D
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Was Muscletech around when Arnold was competing?
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And Jay is not a great speaker.
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jay will win it again next year most likely
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jay will win it again next year most likely
I'd bet the rent check on it.
The Mr O is a business enterprise.
Businesses are able to enjoy the most value from their entities when
1) They own all licensing rights
2) They can build longterm product recognition
Jay winning the O does both. If you hand the Sandow to Vic, Dex, Wolf, or melvin, what happens? You can't have the champ on FLEX or MF covers for 12 months. That's kind of a problem, eh? ;)
Also, there are a great deal of ads, promo materials, products, websites, etc that carry the title "Jay Cutler, Mr Olympia". It would cost a great deal to remove all of that - and the longterm business relationships that go along with them - if Jay doesn't win the title. Imagine Muscletech, after putting $X into the show, having to call every GNC in America and asking them to remove the Jay Cutler Mr O signs and products. Imagine the cost to the company.
The Mr O is a business enterprise which is dependent upon the name recog and sustainability and ability to market, of the champ. The Super Bowl, on the other hand, is not. Peyton Manning and Tom brady could sail away into the sunset in a rowboat together drinking wine, and this year's game would be just as good.
Jay's gonna win again. I think most realize that.
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jay will be awarded with a gift. please refrain from giving it any competitive legitimacy by calling it a win
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Just like a beauty pageant, the most beautiful woman doesn’t win.
It is about the person as a whole (the way she represents herself, speaks, and so on…)
Just like bodybuilding, the person with the best body doesn’t win.
Jay speaks well and carries the sport better than others. That is why he won the “O.”
Bodybuilding is about the personality not just the body. So, this should lay to rest why
Jay Cutler is the reigning champion. Yes, he didn’t have the condition or symmetry,
But he speaks well compared to the other athletes. Case closed!
How well one speaks has nothing to do with the judging criteria. What's next, a goddamn spelling bee before the final posedown?
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;D
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Just like a beauty pageant, the most beautiful woman doesn’t win.
It is about the person as a whole (the way she represents herself, speaks, and so on…)
Just like bodybuilding, the person with the best body doesn’t win.
Jay speaks well and carries the sport better than others. That is why he won the “O.”
Bodybuilding is about the personality not just the body. So, this should lay to rest why
Jay Cutler is the reigning champion. Yes, he didn’t have the condition or symmetry,
But he speaks well compared to the other athletes. Case closed!
Dear MadMax or Judge,
I sorry did I miss the "personality" round? It's bodybuilding dude....BODYBUILDING nothing to do with personality, charisma or who can twirl a freaking baton better or "make the world a better place" it's BODYBUILDING if you're judging this on his personality then you're truly an idiot.
This has GOT to be the dumbest thread ever.
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Dear MadMax or Judge,
I sorry did I miss the "personality" round? It's bodybuilding dude....BODYBUILDING nothing to do with personality, charisma or who can twril a freaking baton better or "make the world a better place" it's BODYBUILDING if you're judging this on his personality then you're truly an idiot.
This has GOT to be the dumbest thread ever.
LOL good morning The Coach :)
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Just like a beauty pageant, the most beautiful woman doesn’t win.
It is about the person as a whole (the way she represents herself, speaks, and so on…)
Just like bodybuilding, the person with the best body doesn’t win.
Jay speaks well and carries the sport better than others. That is why he won the “O.”
Bodybuilding is about the personality not just the body. So, this should lay to rest why
Jay Cutler is the reigning champion. Yes, he didn’t have the condition or symmetry,
But he speaks well compared to the other athletes. Case closed!
You're a chick aren't ya?
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This has GOT to be the dumbest thread ever.
Fixed ;D No need for detail it explains itself
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You're a chick aren't ya?
"chicks" tend to vote lib, don't they?
They seem to think they don't deserve to be called names like "chick".
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"chicks" tend to vote lib, don't they?
They seem to think they don't deserve to be called names like "chick".
You're trying to bait me again........it's ain't going to work, I'm not in the mood >:(
Catch me after my Saturday carb day. I might humor you then!
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You're trying to bait me again........it's ain't going to work, I'm not in the mood >:(
Catch me after my Saturday carb day. I might humor you then!
Women's rights is more lib BS. I knew it!~
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another fanboy
HAHAHA yes I can't stand them, they are oblivious to everything in the business. Their favorite BBers tend to be the guys splattered all over the ads in mags and they find most of their BBing "knowledge" there too.
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The sport is changing into a new direction for the good. Getting mainstream takes a well spoken person, not just the body.
I agree with the judges decision about electing Jay as he makes the better speaker. What would have Victor been good for?
I like the way this sport is changing, people should be looked at more than meat. Jay all the way!
IT WILL NEVER BE MAINSTREAM
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LOL good morning The Coach :)
WTF so good about it >:(??
;)!
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Look, it all comes down to money and business! You guys are the dumb ones for believing that the best man wins. It is about what is good for the people in charge of all this. Always has and always will, just ask Arnold about the 1980 "O."
I am not the stupid one for posting this topic. It is the plain truth. You guys are stupid enough to think that every year the "right person" will win. If that was the case, Dexter, Shawn, Nasser, would have won at least one.
If you guys start thinking like business men, then you would be more accurate about who the winner might be.
Start judging these contests in this mind state and you might start calling the winners better.
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Look, it all comes down to money and business! You guys are the dumb ones for believing that the best man wins. It is about what is good for the people in charge of all this. Always has and always will, just ask Arnold about the 1980 "O."
I am not the stupid one for posting this topic. It is the plain truth. You guys are stupid enough to think that every year the "right person" will win. If that was the case, Dexter, Shawn, Nasser, would have won at least one.
If you guys start thinking like business men, then you would be more accurate about who the winner might be.
Start judging these contests in this mind state and you might start calling the winners better.
bro, why all the hate for jay man?
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I'd bet the rent check on it.
The Mr O is a business enterprise.
Businesses are able to enjoy the most value from their entities when
1) They own all licensing rights
2) They can build longterm product recognition
Jay winning the O does both. If you hand the Sandow to Vic, Dex, Wolf, or melvin, what happens? You can't have the champ on FLEX or MF covers for 12 months. That's kind of a problem, eh? ;)
Also, there are a great deal of ads, promo materials, products, websites, etc that carry the title "Jay Cutler, Mr Olympia". It would cost a great deal to remove all of that - and the longterm business relationships that go along with them - if Jay doesn't win the title. Imagine Muscletech, after putting $X into the show, having to call every GNC in America and asking them to remove the Jay Cutler Mr O signs and products. Imagine the cost to the company.
The Mr O is a business enterprise which is dependent upon the name recog and sustainability and ability to market, of the champ. The Super Bowl, on the other hand, is not. Peyton Manning and Tom brady could sail away into the sunset in a rowboat together drinking wine, and this year's game would be just as good.
Jay's gonna win again. I think most realize that.
Look, this person has got the right thinking. You guys need to start thinking like this!!!
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Look, this person has got the right thinking. You guys need to start thinking like this!!!
yeah hes another jay hater
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bro, why all the hate for jay man?
I have "mad love" for Jay. I think he is the "rightful" Mr. O. He speaks well and knows how to present the sport.
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I have "mad love" for Jay. I think he is the "rightful" Mr. O. He speaks well and knows how to present the sport.
why you got a hard for jay?
Whats he ever done to you man?
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Look, it all comes down to money and business! You guys are the dumb ones for believing that the best man wins. It is about what is good for the people in charge of all this. Always has and always will, just ask Arnold about the 1980 "O."
I am not the stupid one for posting this topic. It is the plain truth. You guys are stupid enough to think that every year the "right person" will win. If that was the case, Dexter, Shawn, Nasser, would have won at least one.
If you guys start thinking like business men, then you would be more accurate about who the winner might be.
Start judging these contests in this mind state and you might start calling the winners better.
You are stupid for posting this topic. You're just another twat holding what he thinks is a smoking gun.
You think that we all think that the best man is going to win. You're wrong. We all would rather, for the sake of competition that this happens. There is a distinct difference. For every idiot such as yourself purporting that "there must be continuity for revenue building", there's two people disillusioned by mindless incumbency who take their money and run. Point blank, you're wrong. There's no sport or redeeming value in your way of thinking. Its hilarious. Jay is not a talisman of bodybuilding, he is not the advert you run for 10 years because people love the theme tune, he is not your key to brand recognition. He doesn't have that.
Furthermore, go do some research into the "WBF", the moment in bodybuilding history where it had its biggest chance to go mainstream. Failed miserably. Watch the shows. You'll notice something. Its boring. It is never going to be engaging. Never. There's no hiding from the fact that its boring. You're accosted by a severe level of delusion if you think that bodybuilding is going somewhere. At best, it is a stable income for the powers that be. People not willing to take risks. Hence their line of thinking. Its not about the marketability of Jay atall. Its about the fact that they've got themselves a consistent stream of income and fiddling with the formula might threaten this. Nothing to do with the muppet at the top. The risk they took was last year when they let him have it finally.
Its a shame, because the general public are on the whole fickle and would much rather the drama that goes with frequent champion changes. If bodybuilding was going to appeal to the masses it would be based on "soap opera" theming ala Wrestling (and the WBF).
If I had to guess you're a small business owner who has purchased his first marketing book and suddenly believes he is an expert.
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You are stupid for posting this topic. You're just another twat holding what he thinks is a smoking gun.
You think that we all think that the best man is going to win. You're wrong. We all would rather, for the sake of competition that this happens. There is a distinct difference. For every idiot such as yourself purporting that "there must be continuity for revenue building", there's two people disillusioned by mindless incumbency who take their money and run. Point blank, you're wrong. There's no sport or redeeming value in your way of thinking. Its hilarious. Jay is not a talisman of bodybuilding, he is not the advert you run for 10 years because people love the theme tune, he is not your key to brand recognition. He doesn't have that.
Furthermore, go do some research into the "WBF", the moment in bodybuilding history where it had its biggest chance to go mainstream. Failed miserably. Watch the shows. You'll notice something. Its boring. It is never going to be engaging. Never. There's no hiding from the fact that its boring. You're accosted by a severe level of delusion if you think that bodybuilding is going somewhere. At best, it is a stable income for the powers that be. People not willing to take risks. Hence their line of thinking. Its not about the marketability of Jay atall. Its about the fact that they've got themselves a consistent stream of income and fiddling with the formula might threaten this. Nothing to do with the muppet at the top. The risk they took was last year when they let him have it finally.
Its a shame, because the general public are on the whole fickle and would much rather the drama that goes with frequent champion changes. If bodybuilding was going to appeal to the masses it would be based on "soap opera" theming ala Wrestling (and the WBF).
If I had to guess you're a small business owner who has purchased his first marketing book and suddenly believes he is an expert.
bro mean gene oakland made it interesting
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The only mainstream attention bodybuilding gets is negative attention. Ya know like top 6 guys at the Olympia getting arrested in conjunction with steroid dealing. In any case the general public i think leans toward a body more like Zane's yet maybe not as defined. Seems more attainable....funny thing is it's really not. When i went to LA I spoke allot with Harvey Keith a former bodybuilder that trained with most of the top guys from the 70's. He told me that Zane used just as much if not more stuff than any of the other guys at the time. So its kinda hard to make something mainstream when you need to engage in illegal activity to participate.