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ilalin

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Little relatively safe cycle
« on: May 02, 2024, 09:50:16 AM »
just some thoughts, for an old man, summer fun:

when lean, 10%BF with some muscular foundation


CYCLE


25mg oxymetholone/day - strong anabolic - human grade

10mg tamoxifen/day - to prevent oxymetholone binding to the estrogen receptor. Some will still bind, but that's ok because you do want some extra estrogen production in order to gain muscle. Also, too much estrogen will suppress natural testosterone production even when you're taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)

200mg drostanolone (any ester)/week - acts as an androgen - to bind sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) so that SHBG does not bind oxymetholone- Syn Pharma. Additionally, it is always better to combine an androgen with an anabolic to accumulate longer lasting gains. As most of us know, testosterone is 50:50, androgen:anabolic.

Gonadotropin Stimulating Hormone - GnRH - a hormone to prevent the shutdown of testosterone production and come out of the cycle with functioning Sertoli cells

T3 - human grade - T3 drops while using AAS, so keep supplementing. 25mg/day is good, drop to 12.5mg/day if starting to lose muscle mass

20mg Rosuvastatin/day - human grade - to keep HDL/LDL balance


POST CYCLE

continue with 10mg/day tamoxifen for 3 weeks
continue rosuvastatin 20mg/day for 3 weeks
introduce mesterolone 25mg/day to keep SHBG low, for three weeks without affecting the return to normal pituitary-gonadal axis balance

1.5g protein/lb lean body mass/day
some complex carbs
max fat 70g/day
 
run for around 6 weeks/year


I like to test compounds to see what they are with the Roid Test


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Re: Little relatively safe cycle
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2024, 11:03:07 AM »
Drol doesn't really produce estrogen only test and dbol do so I think you'd need one of those to get some estrogen production or even just use estrogen instead of test or dbol

The craze now is either test/primo or test/mast and if you run test/primo they say you should run primo at test doseage or lower because if not it will crash your estrogen too low and mast blocks gyno but doesn't really lower extrogen they say so you can run mast higher than test

They also say that mast is now the safest compound even safer than primo because primo can raise red blood cells to much and it can cause some liver damage so I guess mast is the absolute safest

And with diet they blast the hell outta carbs and eat 1.25-1.5 grams of protein and keep added fats out or very very low like 50 grams of fat or less

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Re: Little relatively safe cycle
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2024, 07:30:13 AM »
Drol doesn't really produce estrogen only test and dbol do so I think you'd need one of those to get some estrogen production or even just use estrogen instead of test or dbol

The craze now is either test/primo or test/mast and if you run test/primo they say you should run primo at test doseage or lower because if not it will crash your estrogen too low and mast blocks gyno but doesn't really lower extrogen they say so you can run mast higher than test

They also say that mast is now the safest compound even safer than primo because primo can raise red blood cells to much and it can cause some liver damage so I guess mast is the absolute safest

And with diet they blast the hell outta carbs and eat 1.25-1.5 grams of protein and keep added fats out or very very low like 50 grams of fat or less

Thanks for your suggestions.

Anadrol binds to the estrogen receptor. How much estrogen gets elevated, I don't know. You might be right. With a very small dose of 25mg/day it might not have a big effect.
Masteron also acts as an androgen. A combination of anabolic/androgen works better than either alone, for retaining muscle mass, post cycle.
Yes, the diet has to be on point in order to get lean and muscular.
In addition, testosterone does not work well for me anymore because of my age. I readily convert extra test to estrogen and get sides easily. Therefore, I just maintain normal test production with HCG. In case of oral cycles HCG is started immediately, because orals affect the HPTA axis immediately.

I have not started yet, and will do a short log after starting this summer.

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Re: Little relatively safe cycle
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2024, 09:35:14 AM »
Thanks for your suggestions.

Anadrol binds to the estrogen receptor. How much estrogen gets elevated, I don't know. You might be right. With a very small dose of 25mg/day it might not have a big effect.
Masteron also acts as an androgen. A combination of anabolic/androgen works better than either alone, for retaining muscle mass, post cycle.
Yes, the diet has to be on point in order to get lean and muscular.
In addition, testosterone does not work well for me anymore because of my age. I readily convert extra test to estrogen and get sides easily. Therefore, I just maintain normal test production with HCG. In case of oral cycles HCG is started immediately, because orals affect the HPTA axis immediately.

I have not started yet, and will do a short log after starting this summer.

sounds good bro, so yep make a log about it