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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: Meso_z on April 06, 2009, 12:55:48 AM
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Do you hit lower chest in every workout? dips, decline bench etc....
all these years, my last exercise was always dips, decline bench, decline flies etc....but i haven't noticed any difference in my lower pecs.\
what do you think?
Im gonna skip hiting lower chest for a coupple workouts and instead add another flat exersice.
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I always finish with dips.
Before all i really did was incline and flat movements, so my "lower pecs" weren't really focused on. Since adding heavy dips i'd say i have noticed a difference.
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this thread is relivent to my interests, how important is lower chest? it seems everybody does incline and flat bench but never decline? is lower chest important visually?
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For chest I just bench, dip and incline db. Very small incline on the dbs though. I set the end of the bench on two 45lb plates.
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Do you hit lower chest in every workout? dips, decline bench etc....
all these years, my last exercise was always dips, decline bench, decline flies etc....but i haven't noticed any difference in my lower pecs.\
what do you think?
Im gonna skip hiting lower chest for a coupple workouts and instead add another flat exersice.
Flip the order that you do things.
Start with dips and take it from there.
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depends a lot on the angles and technique, dips may work tri's much more than chest depending on how wide your arms flare out. - for maximum pec involvment flare the arms out, don't have them narrow.
also as groink say's i'd start with decline, to see if it makes a difference.
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depends a lot on the angles and technique, dips may work tri's much more than chest depending on how wide your arms flare out. - for maximum pec involvment flare the arms out, don't have them narrow.
also as groink say's i'd start with decline, to see if it makes a difference.
that's right panda.. also when doing dips for chest i believe it’s better not to go down horizontally.. make your legs go backward when you dip..
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I don't do declines as I don't feel them working my chest.
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that's right panda.. also when doing dips for chest i believe it’s better not to go down horizontally.. make your legs go backward when you dip..
Wrong answer. keep your body in front of you to hit the chest, in back of you hits more tris
this is 100% true and cannot be argued Groink approved ;D
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I don't do declines as I don't feel them working my chest.
where do you lower the bar to? i dont feel it in my chest when lowering it to my sternum area, but when i bring it down to the top of my pecs, close to my neck, then i really start to feel it in my chest...and make sure your pushing your chin down into neck/chest
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I’ve never applied that technique to declines, but there’s a lot to be said about lowering the bar to the clavicular region for fiber recruitment.
Scott was big on doing flat bench smith presses to the neck with elbows flared for targeting upper pecs.
And I’ve seen a lot of guys apply the same principle to free weights for the same reasons.
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never incorperated declines in my workouts, i have done heavy dips on shoulder or tricep days which i always felt hit them sufficiently for me.
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Wrong answer. keep your body in front of you to hit the chest, in back of you hits more tris
this is 100% true and cannot be argued Groink approved ;D
really?? :-\ but the experts of bodybuilding.com agree with me:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ridgely8.htm
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really?? :-\ but the experts of bodybuilding.com agree with me:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ridgely8.htm
;D ;D ;D
Can't argue with a 90 pound chick
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;D ;D ;D
Can't argue with a 90 pound chick
is this the best you could say to cover you ignorance :-\ .. good for you mr. pig big guy ;D..
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Yep, when doing dips for chest, lean forward. That's why some people use chains around their necks for dips, as the weight makes them lean forward. A more upright position is better for tris.
Also, if starting with dips, make sure that you warm up very well. Dips are pretty rough on the shoulder girdle, so a proper warm up is essential.
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Yep, when doing dips for chest, lean forward. That's why some people use chains around their necks for dips, as the weight makes them lean forward. A more upright position is better for tris.
Also, if starting with dips, make sure that you warm up very well. Dips are pretty rough on the shoulder girdle, so a proper warm up is essential.
no need to warm up if you do it as the final exercise.. with all my muscles i warm up before the first exercise only..
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no need to warm up if you do it as the final exercise.. with all my muscles i warm up before the first exercise only..
I said "if starting with dips" = doing dips for your 1st exercise, must warm up good.
If dips are your last exercise, like you said, no real need to warm up.
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I said "if starting with dips" = doing dips for your 1st exercise, must warm up good.
If dips are your last exercise, like you said, no real need to warm up.
ok sorry i didn't notice.. yes you are right because some guys think dips itself can be considered just a warming up exercise which is not true..
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ok sorry i didn't notice.. yes you are right because some guys think dips itself can be considered just a warming up exercise which is not true..
That's right.
Great exercise, one of my favourites, but they can be rough. Warming up is essential.
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That's right.
Great exercise, one of my favourites, but they can be rough. Warming up is essential.
sometimes i end my chest workout with supersets of dips followed by push ups.. it's hell!!.. also push ups separately is great if you do it as a final exercise..
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sometimes i end my chest workout with supersets of dips followed by push ups.. it's hell!!.. also push ups separately is great if you do it as a final exercise..
I sometimes like to finish with a compound set of flat flyes and dips. Good finishing combo i think.....
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I sometimes like to finish with a compound set of flat flyes and dips. Good finishing combo i think.....
i like dips so much so when i train at home i do it using 2 parallel wooden back chairs ;D
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hahhahahaa... maaaaaaaaaan i reallllly likeee youuu soooooooooooooo much..
i really mean it my friend and to the hell go the homos who may misunderstand me ;D
Geez, get a room you two.......
:D
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hahhahahaa... maaaaaaaaaan i reallllly likeee youuu soooooooooooooo much..
i really mean it my friend and to the hell go the homos who may misunderstand me ;D
its mutual friend 8)
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Geez, get a room you two.......
:D
look who is talking :-\
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really?? :-\ but the experts of bodybuilding.com agree with me:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ridgely8.htm
I think two said the same thing... one said keep your legs back and the other said keep your body in "front" of you as opposed to being behind. If you keep your legs back your body is naturally going to go forward. No need to argue!
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I think two said the same thing... one said keep your legs back and the other said keep your body in "front" of you as opposed to being behind. If you keep your legs back your body is naturally going to go forward. No need to argue!
you are right man and i noticed this too but that groink guy started his reply to my comment with (wrong answer)!! so i didnt read the rest of what he wrote well thinking he didnt know a shit about the sport and wanted to help him with that link i posted ;D
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whats the main advantage of decline movements? is it strictly to shape the lower part of the chest and/or does it give you strength and size gains?
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where do you lower the bar to? i dont feel it in my chest when lowering it to my sternum area, but when i bring it down to the top of my pecs, close to my neck, then i really start to feel it in my chest...and make sure your pushing your chin down into neck/chest
Never tried lowering to that position, maybe i'll give it a go.
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studies show that a decline press activates more of the pec muscle fibres than flat or incline.
so decline = best chest builder.
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studies show that a decline press activates more of the pec muscle fibres than flat or incline.
so decline = best chest builder.
but did you ever hear that the decline bench press could be dangerous specially with heavy weights??.. because while doing it a lot of blood is concentrated in your head!!.. I am not sure if this is true,.. i myself consider it one of the lot of false training rumours..
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but did you ever hear that the decline bench press could be dangerous specially with heavy weights??.. because while doing it a lot of blood is concentrated in your head!!.. I am not sure if this is true,.. i myself consider it one of the lot of false training rumours..
i have never heard that but i suppose it makes sense, although you could say that about any movement that requires intra abdominal pressure. I know my face goes red from blood pressure when doing most heavy lifts, especially deads and squats.
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i have never heard that but i suppose it makes sense, although you could say that about any movement that requires intra abdominal pressure. I know my face goes red from blood pressure when doing most heavy lifts, especially deads and squats.
very true.. i also once read that it's not good to strongly grasp the grips of the leg press machine while pressing in order not to increase the blood pressure specially when you press vertically..
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but did you ever hear that the decline bench press could be dangerous specially with heavy weights??.. because while doing it a lot of blood is concentrated in your head!!.. I am not sure if this is true,.. i myself consider it one of the lot of false training rumours..
Personally I just don't like the feel of a decline press. Perhaps if I gave it time and did it regularly it wouldn't feel so odd. For me, failure happens quick...and by that I mean it just comes out of nowhere. I'll be absolutely killing a set when all of a sudden that 6-7 rep feels like a truck on my chest. I just don't like the feeling of possibly dropping weight on my throat. I just stick with chest focused dips.
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Personally I just don't like the feel of a decline press. Perhaps if I gave it time and did it regularly it wouldn't feel so odd. For me, failure happens quick...and by that I mean it just comes out of nowhere. I'll be absolutely killing a set when all of a sudden that 6-7 rep feels like a truck on my chest. I just don't like the feeling of possibly dropping weight on my throat. I just stick with chest focused dips.
I always got that same feeling as well.
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I always do declines.....but on a smith machine....go heavy