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Title: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 11, 2009, 08:57:16 PM
Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 12, 2009, 08:05:07 AM
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Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: BM OUT on August 12, 2009, 08:38:19 AM
Yes,its a mess.However can the government correct it?Obama yesterday actually said UPS and FED EX compete with the post office and do fine ,as a reason why a public option wont put private companies out of buisiness.The problem there is,the post office has lost 7 billion each of the last two years.If Obama thinks thats an example of the government showing an ability to run or even oversee anything he might want to look again and use a better example.
Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 12, 2009, 11:01:39 AM
We currently spend 2.5 more than any other country on healthcare.

So... and answer to our problems is to spend another additional trillion dollars?

Maybe we need to take a hard look at how we currently spend our money instead of placing a heavier tax burden on Americans.

Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: Decker on August 12, 2009, 11:21:15 AM
Yes,its a mess.However can the government correct it?Obama yesterday actually said UPS and FED EX compete with the post office and do fine ,as a reason why a public option wont put private companies out of buisiness.The problem there is,the post office has lost 7 billion each of the last two years.If Obama thinks thats an example of the government showing an ability to run or even oversee anything he might want to look again and use a better example.
The post office's annual budget is 70 billion and it's projected losses for 2009 and 20120 is 7 billion/year.  (It hasn't lost 7 billion in the last 2 years http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/20892/


FED EX has lost more than the post office relative to its size.  They're down 20+%

FedEx reported quarterly revenue of $7.85 billion, down more than 20% from $9.87 billion a year earlier.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/17/news/companies/fedex_earnings.reut/

http://shortformblog.com/biz/fedexs-losses-are-massive-we-blame-the-arrow-in-their-logo
$876 million
FedEx’s loss in the fourth quarter, which ended May 31. Their shares dipped 3% today.

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Everyone is getting hit hard by these times.
Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: Decker on August 12, 2009, 11:25:25 AM
We currently spend 2.5 more than any other country on healthcare.

So... and answer to our problems is to spend another additional trillion dollars?

Maybe we need to take a hard look at how we currently spend our money instead of placing a heavier tax burden on Americans.


I agree absolutley.  One big cost killer is the middle man - Private insurance.  Those billions of dollars lining the pockets of the CEOs comes from somewhere.

Another cost killer is technology - the advent and application of new medical treatments.  At least that's what I've read.

If people knew how private insurance already rations care, limits doctor choice and inflates insurance costs, they'd skewer them.

But hey, someone's gotta sponsor all those million dollar golf tournaments.
Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 12, 2009, 01:45:51 PM
I agree absolutley.  One big cost killer is the middle man - Private insurance.  Those billions of dollars lining the pockets of the CEOs comes from somewhere.

Another cost killer is technology - the advent and application of new medical treatments.  At least that's what I've read.

If people knew how private insurance already rations care, limits doctor choice and inflates insurance costs, they'd skewer them.

But hey, someone's gotta sponsor all those million dollar golf tournaments.

Hey, Decker. How ya been, bud?

Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: dkf360 on August 12, 2009, 01:51:31 PM
The post office's annual budget is 70 billion and it's projected losses for 2009 and 20120 is 7 billion/year.  (It hasn't lost 7 billion in the last 2 years http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/20892/


FED EX has lost more than the post office relative to its size.  They're down 20+%

FedEx reported quarterly revenue of $7.85 billion, down more than 20% from $9.87 billion a year earlier.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/17/news/companies/fedex_earnings.reut/

http://shortformblog.com/biz/fedexs-losses-are-massive-we-blame-the-arrow-in-their-logo
$876 million
FedEx’s loss in the fourth quarter, which ended May 31. Their shares dipped 3% today.

________________________ ________________

Everyone is getting hit hard by these times.

Thanks for posting actual facts, instead of FUD.
Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: Decker on August 12, 2009, 02:16:54 PM
Hey, Decker. How ya been, bud?


Hey W8,

I'm lifting again after a slight interruption - right rotator cuff injury and tendon injury in left pec.  I swear lifting keeps me sane.

How about yourself?
Title: Re: 1.2 TRILLION dollars Wasted each year with our CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
Post by: w8tlftr on August 12, 2009, 03:20:45 PM
Hey W8,

I'm lifting again after a slight interruption - right rotator cuff injury and tendon injury in left pec.  I swear lifting keeps me sane.

How about yourself?

I started lifting (seriously) again myself. It was a nice break while I got to enjoy other stuff.

Looking forward to agreeing to disagree with you in future discussions.  :)