true, i'm a little confused on the dateline on Richard.
was he an olympic weightlifting at the same time as he was a 'golden gloves boxer' or???
btw, please explain to me what 'golden gloves boxing' is?
the 'golden gloves' is an amateur boxing tournament that is typically held once a year (although there are local comps aswell). the best amateur boxers compete and the best boxer of the night becomes golden gloves champion. there is no 'golden gloves boxing' per se. whenever i hear someone say they're are a 'golden gloves boxer' i become aware of 3 things:
1. they are full of shit
2. they're trying to intimidate you so they don't have to fight you (i know this doesn't apply to you Richard)
3. they are lousy fighters because good fighters don't show their hand thus giving an opponent an advantage.
IF you competed in the golden gloves tournament then that would mean you were an amateur boxer of some notoriety.
so what's the true story Richard?
Olympic Weightlifter, wrestler, amateur boxer, soldier?
i do recall you stating on this very thread that you were NOT a boxer but competing in wrestling at the same club as competitive boxers, so can you please clear up my confusion 
i'm not accusing you of lying and you do appear to know what you're talking about, but the pieces don't fit especially when you cross reference it to the other getbig thread Dballn247 is alluding to.
yes, the golden gloves is a tournament where the best competitors compete. they have national and state competitions annually.
however, you don't actually do 'golen gloves boxing' per se. you become an amateur boxer, have local novice bouts 3 wins or 5 fights, etc and then move on to different state, national (incl golden gloves tournament) and international competitions.
IF Richard was a boxer competing in the golden gloves he would have been an amateur boxer and a pretty good one, depending on where he lived. to win the national golden gloves you must be an elite amateur boxer.
the thing is, Richard stated earlier in the thread:
"Personally, having been challenged by boxers over my many years of MMA practice, whenever boxers would challenge me to "get into the ring with them" they would then try to force me to put on a pair of boxing gloves, not allow any kicks at all (and certainly no low-line/leg kicking!) and, of course, disallow any takedowns/throwing or ground fighting...hilarious and pathetic...thus, really trying to stack-the-deck in their favor!!"
obviously this indicates that, not only was he not an amateur boxer, he certainly wasn't an elite amateur boxer competing in golden gloves competitions. if he was, he would have happily donned the gloves and sparred with them, more than likely show them a thing or two in the process. yet he is saying here that they were "really trying to stack the deck in their favour!!"
i smell bullshit and i seriously doubt that Richard will come back and answer to it.
Oh me, here we go yet again...
Uhhh...I boxed at the ages of 15-16 and competed in some local city/club-sponsored boxing matches which included a citywide Golden Gloves sponsored tournament. Duhh...I don't recall saying I ever "won any amateur boxing awards"...just that I've trained as a boxer.
Duhhh...uhhh...I once boxed in a local citywide Golden Gloves sponsored amateur boxing tournament in my middle teens...does that mean I'm allowed to call myself a "golden gloves boxer"...maybe not...sorry about the confusion/misinformation/misunderstanding!??
Duhhh...LATER, in college, I was a member of my university's intercollegiate freestyle wrestling team and wrestled in the 177 lb. bwt. class during the wrestling season. Since people have reading comprehension problems...again, members of our intercollegiate boxing team had occasional "challenge mixed matches" with the members of my wrestling team (in the ring and on the mat...gloves and no gloves).
While in college, I began to add the study of Judo, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, and Isshin-Ryu (Okinawan) Karate. During my training at both a local Y and nearby dojo on these hard/soft arts, I has some YMCA boxers challenge me to "step in the ring with them"...that's all! Uhhh...these challenges weren't "friendly in nature", but were done with an arrogant attitude to try and "prove" that boxing was superior to the other hard/soft martial-arts I was training on.
After all, this was way back in the early 1960's when the hard/soft Oriental martial-arts were often considered "inferior fighting arts" to Western-style boxing, were relatively unknown, and often ridiculed (particularly by boxers)! At the time, not having "purely boxed" for some 6 long years but having practiced OTHER martial-arts since, I was EAGER to prove to these cocky boxers that the OTHER hard/soft martial-arts, that I had been diligently practicing, were for REAL, and were superior (in combination!) to their one-dimensional boxing! Uhhh, hope this is an "adequate/comeback answer to your question"!?
By the way, at age 19, I was fortunate enough to win the National Teenage Olympic Weightlifting Championships and set some national records (as has been fully documented on other forum threads).
Uhhh...I'm not a "competitive MMA fighter" like all of you other rough/tough guys, but have simply trained regularly on the hard/soft martial-arts (and still do) since 1963.
And frankly Beast, I really couldn't care less "what you think/believe"...cause you, like my 'ole nemesis', dballn, are gonna believe what you want to believe, regardless!
