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Title: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Fallsview on January 31, 2011, 11:27:04 PM
Ric Flair tore his rotator cuff in a match against Doug Williams.  When is this guy going to retire?  Can't he just manage and stop wrestling?  I guess it's true:  when you get old you don't know your limitations.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 01, 2011, 05:07:33 AM
Flair is still the man.  8)
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 01, 2011, 05:11:09 AM
Flair is still the man.  8)

Whoooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 01, 2011, 06:16:24 AM
Latest on Flair & TNA...

Ric Flair is not at the TNA iMPACT! taping for tonight, nor is he on the sheets for any tapings for this week.

Some people backstage are wondering whether he’s done with the company after the Ireland incident. It could also be a suspension. We’re not sure yet.

Story developing…. more soon.

Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: OLE BIG on February 01, 2011, 11:26:02 PM
I have often wondered why Flair didn't just start his own federation.  He could fill small venues in the south just by showing up.  Hire a few old timers to come and sign autographs, put on some good matches and make some money.

And, yes, he still is, and will always be the man.

Space Mountain is the oldest ride in the park, but it still has the longest line!!
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 01, 2011, 11:49:24 PM
I have often wondered why Flair didn't just start his own federation.  He could fill small venues in the south just by showing up.  Hire a few old timers to come and sign autographs, put on some good matches and make some money.

And, yes, he still is, and will always be the man.

Space Mountain is the oldest ride in the park, but it still has the longest line!!

Space Mountain is not the oldest ride in the park. quit making up shit. 
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: OLE BIG on February 01, 2011, 11:59:45 PM
Space Mountain is not the oldest ride in the park. quit making up shit. 

Then what is?
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 02, 2011, 12:08:41 AM
Probably the whirling teacups.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 02, 2011, 12:12:38 AM
Alice in Wonderland.  1958.  17 years older than Space Mountain.   However, there might be older ones.  I suspect those teacups have been there since the beginning.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 02, 2011, 04:32:53 AM
I have often wondered why Flair didn't just start his own federation.  He could fill small venues in the south just by showing up.  Hire a few old timers to come and sign autographs, put on some good matches and make some money.

And, yes, he still is, and will always be the man.

Space Mountain is the oldest ride in the park, but it still has the longest line!
LMAO!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 02, 2011, 05:25:01 AM
Tiger Chung Lee, don't come in here and Pearl Harbor job this thread.....  ;D
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Fallsview on February 02, 2011, 05:53:59 AM
Where are the Ding Dongs when you need them.  Special shout out to Laser Tron and Starship Eagle.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 02, 2011, 05:56:40 AM
Where are the Ding Dongs when you need them.  Special shout out to Laser Tron and Starship Eagle.


Starship Eagle never quite made it as big as Starship Coyote.....  and remember when Laser Tron was teaming with Jimmy Valiant against the New Breed?
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Fallsview on February 02, 2011, 06:00:57 AM

Starship Eagle never quite made it as big as Starship Coyote.....  and remember when Laser Tron was teaming with Jimmy Valiant against the New Breed?

Used to love the Boogie Man esp, his Charlie Brown the man from otta town gimmick.  The Ding Dongs, God whoever thought of that tag team shouldn't be in the wrestling business.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 02, 2011, 06:09:17 AM
Used to love the Boogie Man esp, his Charlie Brown the man from otta town gimmick.  The Ding Dongs, God whoever thought of that tag team shouldn't be in the wrestling business.

You mean Charlie Brown was Valiant?   ;D ;)   the "jail scenes" promos were classic.  Valiant had some GREAT fueds with Kabuki and Ivan Koloff too.  Not a technical guy by any stretch, but had a ton of charisma.

ding dongs =  :-\
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Montague on February 02, 2011, 06:15:36 AM
Used to love the Boogie Man esp, his Charlie Brown the man from otta town gimmick.  The Ding Dongs, God whoever thought of that tag team shouldn't be in the wrestling business.


Worse than "The Sheepherders?"

Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 02, 2011, 06:20:59 AM

Worse than "The Sheepherders?"



I thought they were "ok" before their WWF stint.  When they would just brawl and bleed all over the world..... they just looked like clowns in the WWF.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Montague on February 02, 2011, 06:23:42 AM
I thought they were "ok" before their WWF stint.  When they would just brawl and bleed all over the world..... they just looked like clowns in the WWF.


LOL!!
Do they still own/operate their Bushwacker's restaurant?
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 02, 2011, 06:31:03 AM

LOL!!
Do they still own/operate their Bushwacker's restaurant?

No idea..... I remember keeping up with them in the mags.  They did a brief stint in the mid-atlantic, but their style was best left to in-person as they didn't bleed on TV in those days.  then off to the WWF to let VKM make them look mildly-retarded..... :-\
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 02, 2011, 06:53:23 AM
Who can forget the great "Oz" character....
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: OLE BIG on February 02, 2011, 12:42:27 PM
Tiger Chung Lee, don't come in here and Pearl Harbor job this thread.....  ;D

 :-X :-X

Now, let's get this thread back on track.  The Nature Boy is hurt and needs our support.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 02, 2011, 12:48:39 PM

LOL!!
Do they still own/operate their Bushwacker's restaurant?
= bigtime coke addicts
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Montague on February 02, 2011, 04:39:40 PM
= bigtime coke addicts


Maybe Jake should put in an application.


Oh, wait...
I already used that one today.
 :D
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Fallsview on February 02, 2011, 09:04:40 PM
I think Flair's rotator cuff injury is an old one put on by his arm wrestling Bad Bad Leroy Brown in Georgia circa 1981.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 02, 2011, 09:06:26 PM
:-X :-X

Now, let's get this thread back on track.  The Nature Boy is hurt and needs our support.

You were the one who started talking about Space Mountain.   :-X
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 04:39:00 AM
I think Flair's rotator cuff injury is an old one put on by his arm wrestling Bad Bad Leroy Brown in Georgia circa 1981.
TBH I don't ever remember Flair being hurt / injured other than that plane crash he survived in 1975.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 05:12:40 AM
Flair has had shoulder issues in the past, but I don't know when exactly.  I know Dr. Andrews has performed surgery on him on several occasions.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 05:17:57 AM
Flair has had shoulder issues in the past, but I don't know when exactly.  I know Dr. Andrews has performed surgery on him on several occasions.
AND he still worked through all his matches at top tier performance. By watching you wouldn't even know he was hurt. Now that is old school at its best. Not like the guys today who crack a nail and are out for 4 months.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 05:26:35 AM
AND he still worked through all his matches at top tier performance. By watching you wouldn't even know he was hurt. Now that is old school at its best. Not like the guys today who crack a nail and are out for 4 months.

No doubt.  I know many of the guys now do wrestle thru some serious injuries, but not nearly as often as the old-timers did. 
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 06:16:55 AM
No doubt.  I know many of the guys now do wrestle thru some serious injuries, but not nearly as often as the old-timers did. 
Then you had guys like Batista who tore something every 3 months.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 06:25:24 AM
Then you had guys like Batista who tore something every 3 months.

I remember reading a long time ago where Flair was talking about how to go 300+ days a year.  He always believed that keeping just a bit of bodyfat to help cushion the body was important.  Hard to argue with it.  Course he might have just been excusing his little layer of winter fat he always carried..... ;D
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 06:27:41 AM
I remember reading a long time ago where Flair was talking about how to go 300+ days a year.  He always believed that keeping just a bit of bodyfat to help cushion the body was important.  Hard to argue with it.  Course he might have just been excusing his little layer of winter fat he always carried..... ;D
On his dvd he basically said that he wrestled pretty much every single day and no one thought twice about it. You just did it. That's how it was back then. He said he'd be home on x-mas eve and then back out. That was pretty much it.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 06:33:19 AM
On his dvd he basically said that he wrestled pretty much every single day and no one thought twice about it. You just did it. That's how it was back then. He said he'd be home on x-mas eve and then back out. That was pretty much it.

Same as the book.  Those guys were unreal.  The called Ivan Koloff "the machine" because he was always ready to go and for as long as the match called for.  It's kinda funny how the guys today with the muscular, ripped physiques blow-up 5 minutes into a match and the old guys could go for an hour.  Granted the style is different, but I don't think the toolbags wrestling today could even slow down a match and come up with enough material for an hour.  Fans would boo and nod off 3 times.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 06:39:38 AM
Same as the book.  Those guys were unreal.  The called Ivan Koloff "the machine" because he was always ready to go and for as long as the match called for.  It's kinda funny how the guys today with the muscular, ripped physiques blow-up 5 minutes into a match and the old guys could go for an hour.  Granted the style is different, but I don't think the toolbags wrestling today could even slow down a match and come up with enough material for an hour.  Fans would boo and nod off 3 times.
Exactly. What pisses me off is that if you examine the eighties, there where way more built / muscular wrestlers. Everyone was on juice. But you NEVER heard of anyone dying. Explain that.  ;)
Then the ninties came rolling in and so did the rec chemicals. In the seventies and eighties even Harly Race admitted that it was all booze and pot. But now they abuse and get hooked on pain pills, muscle relaxants, anxiety pills, sleeping pills, etc. It all catches up to you.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 06:43:19 AM
Exactly. What pisses me off is that if you examine the eighties, there where way more built / muscular wrestlers. Everyone was on juice. But you NEVER heard of anyone dying. Explain that.  ;)
Then the ninties came rolling in and so did the rec chemicals. In the seventies and eighties even Harly Race admitted that it was all booze and pot. But now they abuse and get hooked on pain pills, muscle relaxants, anxiety pills, sleeping pills, etc. It all catches up to you.


As usual, you are spot on.  I think the booze and weed in the 70's and 80's, when used in moderation, actually were "good" for the longevity of a career.  Temporarily numbed the soreness and pain, without massive long-term effects like the pill generation.  And most guys knew how to handle their booze......exceptions of course, but for that generation they could "hold their liquor."

And I agree on builds.  I'm much more impressed watching my old vids of the Warriors, Atlas, Butch Reed, etc... who would intimidate anybody compared to the "lean" twinks you see so many of now. 
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 03, 2011, 08:56:50 AM
As usual, you are spot on.  I think the booze and weed in the 70's and 80's, when used in moderation, actually were "good" for the longevity of a career.  Temporarily numbed the soreness and pain, without massive long-term effects like the pill generation.  And most guys knew how to handle their booze......exceptions of course, but for that generation they could "hold their liquor."

And I agree on builds.  I'm much more impressed watching my old vids of the Warriors, Atlas, Butch Reed, etc... who would intimidate anybody compared to the "lean" twinks you see so many of now. 
X2. Crusher Blackwell vs Blackjack Mulligan no twinks around.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 10:52:16 AM
As usual, you are spot on.  I think the booze and weed in the 70's and 80's, when used in moderation, actually were "good" for the longevity of a career.  Temporarily numbed the soreness and pain, without massive long-term effects like the pill generation.  And most guys knew how to handle their booze......exceptions of course, but for that generation they could "hold their liquor."

And I agree on builds.  I'm much more impressed watching my old vids of the Warriors, Atlas, Butch Reed, etc... who would intimidate anybody compared to the "lean" twinks you see so many of now. 
Extremely Built wrestlers of the eighties:
Hulk Hogan
Paul Orndorff
Ivan Putzki
Nikita Koloff
RR Animal
RR Hawk
Dynamite Kid
Davey Boy SMith
Ultimate Warrior
Don Murocco
Rick Rude
Warlord
Barbarian
Hercules Hernandez
Jimmy Snuka
Johnny B Badd
Lex Luger
Sting
Sid
Scott Steiner
Rick Steiner
Scott Norton
Ted Arcidi (1986)
Scotty McGee (1986)
Bill Eadie (Ax of Demolition)
Barry Darsaw (Smash of Demolition)
Big John Studd
Ken Patera
Tony Atlas
Rocky Johnson

And thats off the top of my head...

Extremely Built wrestlers of the millenium:

Batista
HHH
Eziekiel Jackson
Batista's lookalike (forgot his name on Nexus) And only because i'm throwing him a cookie
John Cena
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 11:34:08 AM
X2. Crusher Blackwell vs Blackjack Mulligan no twinks around.


Awesome find!  Blackjack was one of my favs as a kid.  And Blackwell could get around great, especially for his size.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 11:55:37 AM
Awesome find!  Blackjack was one of my favs as a kid.  And Blackwell could get around great, especially for his size.
Didn't Blackwell die in 1988 from some disease?
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 12:09:01 PM
Didn't Blackwell die in 1988 from some disease?

i think he died in the mid-90's from some complications from a car accident.  Not 100% sure though. I think he was only in his early-mid 40's at the time.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 12:42:12 PM
i think he died in the mid-90's from some complications from a car accident.  Not 100% sure though. I think he was only in his early-mid 40's at the time.
I could have sworn he had some kind of illness. I'll have to do wome digging on that one.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
I could have sworn he had some kind of illness. I'll have to do wome digging on that one.

I think he had issues from his weight for years....I know that was why he quit wrestling.  And I think the illness was actually brought on my complications from the car accident....infections maybe?  Not sure.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 12:59:49 PM
i think he died in the mid-90's from some complications from a car accident.  Not 100% sure though. I think he was only in his early-mid 40's at the time.
Your right. He died in 1995 from complications stemming for an automobile accident. I just checked.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 01:01:40 PM
Your right. He died in 1995 from complications stemming for an automobile accident. I just checked.

I've worked hard over the years to kill off my "weak" brain cells so that the stronger ones can survive.... ;D
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 03, 2011, 01:03:14 PM
I've worked hard over the years to kill off my "weak" brain cells so that the stronger ones can survive.... ;D
Lol...I had to check as it would have bothered me all day if I didn't.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 03, 2011, 01:07:29 PM
Lol...I had to check as it would have bothered me all day if I didn't.

What is sad is that I can recall stupid, meaningless shit like that, but anything of value?  Nah.....forget within a month or so..... :-\
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 03, 2011, 02:15:38 PM
I think he had issues from his weight for years....I know that was why he quit wrestling.  And I think the illness was actually brought on my complications from the car accident....infections maybe?  Not sure.
I thought he died of a reverse claw being applied to him cut off brain circulation, not sure though. ;D I'm really not sure on how he died.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 04, 2011, 10:29:16 AM
I've worked hard over the years to kill off my "weak" brain cells so that the stronger ones can survive.... ;D
Mine get rejuvenated with a bottle of Scotch.  ;D
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 04, 2011, 10:49:45 AM
Mine get rejuvenated with a bottle of Scotch.  ;D

It's also the fountain of youth....makes me much better looking!  ;D
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Playboy on February 04, 2011, 11:51:59 AM
It's also the fountain of youth....makes me much better looking!  ;D
George Burns pounded a scotch every morning and burned a stogie everyday and lived a century. Perfect proof that life longevity is all in how much each person's body / immune sytem can endure.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: OLE BIG on February 04, 2011, 03:20:35 PM
TBH I don't ever remember Flair being hurt / injured other than that plane crash he survived in 1975.

I think he was hurt when he did the first (?) retirement angle. 
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: OLE BIG on February 04, 2011, 03:21:25 PM
You were the one who started talking about Space Mountain.   :-X

Ric Flair=Space Mountain.

 
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 04, 2011, 05:21:02 PM
George Burns pounded a scotch every morning and burned a stogie everyday and lived a century. Perfect proof that life longevity is all in how much each person's body / immune sytem can endure.
X2.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 04, 2011, 05:22:12 PM
Ric Flair=Space Mountain.

 

Ric Flair=Alice in Wonderland.
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: OLE BIG on February 04, 2011, 07:09:42 PM
Ric Flair=Alice in Wonderland.

Ric Flair probably put Alice in wonderland.  Whoooo!

She'll be coming around the mountain, when she comes!

WHOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 04, 2011, 09:50:33 PM
Ric Flair=Alice in Wonderland.


Jadeveon Clowney = bitch
Title: Re: Ric Flair-torn rotator cuff
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 04, 2011, 09:58:36 PM
The Showstoppa = Butt-hurt 8 year old