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http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20061108/pl_rasmussen/gopprimary20061108
My question is, how incredibly destructive would it be to have a president follow Bush that is so openly an Arab Hater. He has a history of spitting in their face and not even attempting to hide his disdain for them... I hate to think his hate might translate into greater Arab backlash resulting in more of our troops getting killed because he is so filled with hate for them. Arabs will have a hard time stomaching good intentions with Giuliani at the helm...
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20061108/pl_rasmussen/gopprimary20061108
My question is, how incredibly destructive would it be to have a president follow Bush that is so openly an Arab Hater. He has a history of spitting in their face and not even attempting to hide his disdain for them... I hate to think his hate might translate into greater Arab backlash resulting in more of our troops getting killed because he is so filled with hate for them. Arabs will have a hard time stomaching good intentions with Giuliani at the helm...
I just don't see Giuliani winning the nomination, I'm hoping it's McCain.
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I just don't see Giuliani winning the nomination, I'm hoping it's McCain.
I'm very shocked to see Giuliani in the early lead, but you're right and the early leader never makes it anyway it seems like... Giuliani just scares me...
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Team Giuliani
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I hope somebody asks Guiliani how he can see the future. For 9/11, he had FEMA all set up down the street from the towers on the evening of 9/10, for some unnamed drill to be run the next morning.
Then, on 9/11, after watching the twin towers fall from WTC7, he calmly left after being told "We gotta leave, this building is coming down". WTC was still full of people working and there were no major fires and no damage at all when he was filmed walking out.
Anyone?
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Team Giuliani
He would be perfect for your problems, recruit him to become a Brit... But I really think he's bad for the current situation... Stick a known Arab hater in the white house and quotes/vids will be bouncing around the middle east and getting more of our men killed... I know you only care about the extermination of the Arab race, but I'm concerned with America.
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Team Giuliani
God, I can't wait until we return to a day where I can say, fuck off keep your opinions out of our politics... But I can't do that when the whole world clearly has a stake in what we're doing... too bad...
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I said it ALOOOONG time ago, if Guliani wins the nomination he'll win by a landslide, and of course I'll vote for him....McCain is just too Liberal!
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Oh Brother... ::)
Giuliani takes step toward '08 bid
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani2008
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this will only help the 9/11 truth movement.
Guiliani told the cameras that WTC7 was coming down before the bitch even caught fire.
The more Rudy we see, the more that enlightened people will be encouraged to tell their friends.
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Here is what will probably kill him (in addition to the wife thing):
"The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights — stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base."
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Yep, heard it earlier, he filed papers to form his exploritory committee........yeeehaa aa!!
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20061108/pl_rasmussen/gopprimary20061108
My question is, how incredibly destructive would it be to have a president follow Bush that is so openly an Arab Hater. He has a history of spitting in their face and not even attempting to hide his disdain for them... I hate to think his hate might translate into greater Arab backlash resulting in more of our troops getting killed because he is so filled with hate for them. Arabs will have a hard time stomaching good intentions with Giuliani at the helm...
You sure?
Giuliani looks kinda Middle Eastern himself IMO.
YIP
Zack
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Here is what will probably kill him (in addition to the wife thing):
"The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights — stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base."
See, FUCK THAT!!!!
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You sure?
Giuliani looks kinda Middle Eastern himself IMO.
YIP
Zack
YES!!!!! I knew I liked you for a reason ;D I think you're right... He does look middle eastern ;D
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Yep, heard it earlier, he filed papers to form his exploritory committee........yeeehaa aa!!
You're for gun control ::)
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Rudy is major anti-gun.
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Here is what will probably kill him (in addition to the wife thing):
"The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights — stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base."
Let's disregard the whole conspiracy thing for a minute, pretend it is not an issue what he did or knew during 9/11.
And lets just look at Giuliani's politics. His political views make him very dangerous for the Democrats, as he is attractive to many who rejects the Republicans based on them being moral conservative.
He's a classic liberal, not in the way Limbaugh unintelligently refers to as liberal, but a liberal as in the traditional meaning, the true sense. Meaning free trade, economically big individual freedom and responsibility.
Gun control because Giuliani is tough on crime.
Seems like Giuliani needs to address those who thinks he's in on some conspiracy. Because otherwise he has no chance in hell.
Doesn't matter how moderate republican he is.
YIP
Zack
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we need an arab hater in there
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Rudy is major anti-gun.
ahahahahahah.... It'll be the first time wyoming votes dem since 1964... Infact he'll have a hard time picking up states like Arizona, New Mexico, TEXAS, Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, Idaho, Utah.... If he's been strong anti-gun, I take it all back, you go right ahead and run that mother fucker intenseone... Do it...
(http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php?i=17140_doit.gif)
I'll campaign for him in the primary ;D
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we need an arab hater in there
What good is an anti gun arab hater to you ::) whops, never mind!!! I agree :D
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What good is an anti gun arab hater to you ::) whops, never mind!!! I agree :D
Arab hater?
Perhaps he wants someone to have a go at Rudy "Omar" Al-Giuliani? ???
YIP
Zack
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Let's disregard the whole conspiracy thing for a minute, pretend it is not an issue what he did or knew during 9/11.
Seems like Giuliani needs to address those who thinks he's in on some conspiracy. Because otherwise he has no chance in hell.
Doesn't matter how moderate republican he is.
IMO, 9/11 had a HUGE impact on this past election. The media won't touch it, and people are mocked when they suggest it. But anyone who's watched 2 or 3 documentaries on 9/11 will, at the very least, no longer trust the Bush Administration.
This affects perception on the iraqi War. If you suspect, even slightly, that Bush let 911 happen, you look at the WMD debacle with a more open mind. You're not scared, because you don't fear the boogeyman (OBL or Sadaam).
You will never hear the media discuss it. But seriously, if you visit the 911 conspiracy boards, 90% of the people there are jilted repubs who voted for Bush. And none of them are voting for his ass again. And Rudy sure as fuck will not get their votes, or mine. Rudy ordered the 911 crime scene shipped to China for 1/10 the market price of scrap metal, in direct violation of federal law. Why? Because he knew Spitzer (look up his connections!) would never do anything about it.
Rudy made hundreds of millions on 9/11. He will not get my vote too.
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Arab hater?
Perhaps he wants someone to have a go at Rudy "Omar" Al-Giuliani? ???
YIP
Zack
BWAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaha!!!! ;D
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240=broken record
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240=broken record
Scratched CD? Do they even make records anymore?
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Scratched CD? Do they even make records anymore?
Yeah, you hold the record for most neoconservative semen swallowed in one consecutive six-year time period.
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Here is what will probably kill him (in addition to the wife thing):
"The former mayor is a moderate who supports gun control, same-sex civil unions, embryonic stem-cell research and abortion rights — stands that would put him at odds with the majority of the GOP conservative base."
This is why I don't think he can win. People and argue that these issues don't matter (gun control, stem-cell research, and same-sex civil unions), but I GUARANTEE you these will be the exact issues that will do Guliani in on a national scale. I'm not too impressed with John McCain either. He's going to have his issues too.
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I hope somebody asks Guiliani how he can see the future. For 9/11, he had FEMA all set up down the street from the towers on the evening of 9/10, for some unnamed drill to be run the next morning.
Then, on 9/11, after watching the twin towers fall from WTC7, he calmly left after being told "We gotta leave, this building is coming down". WTC was still full of people working and there were no major fires and no damage at all when he was filmed walking out.
Anyone?
now i know you are insane :)
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I said it ALOOOONG time ago, if Guliani wins the nomination he'll win by a landslide, and of course I'll vote for him....McCain is just too Liberal!
guliani is a bigger liberal than mccain. hope this helps.
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now i know you are insane :)
bigdumbbell - FEMA set up camp the Monday night before the Tuesday morning attacks, for some "yet to be announced" drill. Look it up, homie. If only we had such foresight on all days ;)
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bigdumbbell - FEMA set up camp the Monday night before the Tuesday morning attacks, for some "yet to be announced" drill. Look it up, homie. If only we had such foresight on all days ;)
1. please site a link to the drill directive from the mayor.
2. it's not a secret that there were below grade fuel storage tanks under the WTC.
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Yeah, you hold the record for most neoconservative semen swallowed in one consecutive six-year time period.
So 240. What's this week's conspiracy?
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This is why I don't think he can win. People and argue that these issues don't matter (gun control, stem-cell research, and same-sex civil unions), but I GUARANTEE you these will be the exact issues that will do Guliani in on a national scale. I'm not too impressed with John McCain either. He's going to have his issues too.
I think these issues will keep Giuliani from winning the primary, much less the general election.
Why don't you like McCain?
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I think these issues will keep Giuliani from winning the primary, much less the general election.
Why don't you like McCain?
I guess I'm still a little bitter about that whole "bi-partisan" deal over the supreme court justice nominees. Trust me though, he'd EASILY get my vote if it came to a choice of either him or Mrs. Clinton. lol Truth be told, it will be interesting to see who President Bush endorses for 2008. I think he owes McCain an endorsement. If McCain didn't come through during the RNC campaign for 2004, I don't think Pres. Bush would have one.
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240 wouldnt have to be a broken record if some of you would get off the boards and go do a little research. 911 isnt the end of "the plan" there is more to come if americans dont wake the fck up!!!!!!!! I dont know if you guys are arguing with him because its funny or what. Look at the pictures of IRAq, THE 2 YEAR OLD LITTLE BOYS AND GIRLS THAT LOSE HALF A FACE OR A LIMB DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS EITHER. Our neighbors,relatives,friends that are defending US dont deserve to die for these fukheads to get richer. Out on dvd 2day who killed the electric car buy it watch it do something besides criticize these guys who are trying to give you an education. MORONS@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I dont know if you guys are arguing with him because its funny or what.
Guilty! ;D
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I guess I'm still a little bitter about that whole "bi-partisan" deal over the supreme court justice nominees. Trust me though, he'd EASILY get my vote if it came to a choice of either him or Mrs. Clinton. lol Truth be told, it will be interesting to see who President Bush endorses for 2008. I think he owes McCain an endorsement. If McCain didn't come through during the RNC campaign for 2004, I don't think Pres. Bush would have one.
I see. I'd vote for him over Hillary in a New York minute too. I doubt Bush endorses anyone during the primary, unless some nut like Buchannan is a serious candidate.
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Guilty! ;D
You must be a serial killer or maybe in gov.
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1. please site a link to the drill directive from the mayor.
FEMA won't admit who ordered them to arrive Monday night and set up down the street from the towers Their little secret ;)
Rudy was a federal prosecutor who knew jthe law quite well regarding crime scenes. Having this one shipped away without analysis was illegal.
2. it's not a secret that there were below grade fuel storage tanks under the WTC.
They were low, they never blew up, and the power was turned off in the building. Do your homework, Milhouse!
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You must be a serial killer or maybe in gov.
;D
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guliani is a bigger liberal than mccain. hope this helps.
Here, let me get that for you Int... "Rush didn't say that >:( "
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FEMA won't admit who ordered them to arrive Monday night and set up down the street from the towers Their little secret ;)
Rudy was a federal prosecutor who knew jthe law quite well regarding crime scenes. Having this one shipped away without analysis was illegal.
They were low, they never blew up, and the power was turned off in the building. Do your homework, Milhouse!
what do you think was causing the continual burning at ground zero?
it was the below grade fuel storage tanks burning that could not be capped.
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I see. I'd vote for him over Hillary in a New York minute too. I doubt Bush endorses anyone during the primary, unless some nut like Buchanan is a serious candidate.
Pat is not a nut... Buchanan has opposed Bush and especially the neocons at every moment minus the run-up to election days... Read some Buchanan...
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what do you think was causing the continual burning at ground zero?
it was the below grade fuel storage tanks burning that could not be capped.
No, you're wrong. It was molten steel from the explosives used to bring the towers down. Burning fuel cannot achieve much less sustain the temperatures measure from space days and weeks after. Look it up in your science book. You'll see it was impossible.
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Pat is not a nut... Buchanan has opposed Bush and especially the neocons at every moment minus the run-up to election days... Read some Buchanan...
Okay. Maybe "nut" is an overstatement. Extremist is a better word. I watched him for years on CNN's Crossfire. I watched him on the campaign trail when he won the New Hampshire primary (doh!). I listened to his polarizing speech at the convention years ago. He's too radical for me. I'm all for protecting our turf, but he's too much of an isolationist. I also think (unless he has softened in recent years) that he attempts to demonize gays and is a bit too strong with his pro life views. But I will admit I haven't been listening to him much the past several years.
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Okay. Maybe "nut" is an overstatement. Extremist is a better word. I watched him for years on CNN's Crossfire. I watched him on the campaign trail when he won the New Hampshire primary (doh!). I listened to his polarizing speech at the convention years ago. He's too radical for me. I'm all for protecting our turf, but he's too much of an isolationist. I also think (unless he has softened in recent years) that he attempts to demonize gays and is a bit too strong with his pro life views. But I will admit I haven't been listening to him much the past several years.
Yes, I admit, he has at times come across a little overboard... But read some of this stuff!!! ;D
http://www.buchanan.org/000-p-articles.html
shit, I just noticed none of his new stuff is here :-\
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No, you're wrong. It was molten steel from the explosives used to bring the towers down. Burning fuel cannot achieve much less sustain the temperatures measure from space days and weeks after. Look it up in your science book. You'll see it was impossible.
NO YOU ARE WRONG!
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Here's Pat's newer works:
http://www.theamericancause.org/patarchives.htm
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unless some nut like Buchannan is a serious candidate.
OOOH!!!! Don't say that, man! Buchanan better not throw his name in the hat! He's the last thing we need. lol
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NO YOU ARE WRONG!
DON'T!!!! MAKE!! ME... Pull over this CAR!!!!!!!!!
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OOOH!!!! Don't say that, man! Buchanan better not throw his name in the hat! He's the last thing we need. lol
Pat Pat Pat Pat ;D
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NO YOU ARE WRONG!
Show me one report that says the molten metal pools under WTC1 and 2 were from fuel tanks. you cannot. Even the 911 Commission refused to address this point.
Look at the max temp jet fuel or gasoline burns. It's way below what can melt steel! And this 50-foot deep pool of molten steel lasted weeks. It's the smoking gun of 9/11, my friend.
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Here's Pat's newer works:
http://www.theamericancause.org/patarchives.htm
I read some of the old and new. I think Pat is sincere and I actually agree with him on some issues (strong defense, lower taxes). I think the biggest problem he has is his delivery. From what I recall, he also has race issues.
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OOOH!!!! Don't say that, man! Buchanan better not throw his name in the hat! He's the last thing we need. lol
Hey he won the New Hampshire primary. :) He is one way we could wind up with President Hillary.
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I read some of the old and new. I think Pat is sincere and I actually agree with him on some issues (strong defense, lower taxes). I think the biggest problem he has is his delivery. From what I recall, he also has race issues.
no race issues, my fellow liberal buddies made that one up ;D I too have problems with pat... I have my, WTF did you just say, oh bullshit moments with Pat, but..... I can't pick a politician who I don't have issues with... So I go along and pick ideas I like and ideas I don't, no heros...
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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_giuliani.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0406/S00031.htm
here you can see Rudy admitting that 1) He knew the WTC was coming down before those poor firefighters or anyone else did. 2) FEMA was in the house 12 hours BEFORe 9/11.
Long Debunked "Rumor" Validated by Giuliani
FEMA in NYC prior to 9-11 for Project TRIPOD terror drill, scheduled for
9-12
By Gregor Holland
As of this writing, June 2, 2004, the transcript of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's testimony to the 9-11 Commission during the May 18-19, 2004 hearings in New York is the only transcript of that hearing omitted from the Commission website ( http://www.9-11commission.gov).
Did Rudy say something wrong?
In case you missed it live, you can listen to his testimony in full at the WNYC radio website at: http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/28147. As Giuliani recounts his experience of the day of 9/11, and the evolving location of the Emergency Command Center that morning, you might want to pay special attention to what he says at the end of his prepared statement:
"... the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed."
Why would they remove Rudy's words from the transcripts? because it showed FEMA was coincidentally there, which FEMA denied, then records later showed wrong
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Giuliani himself said he was told of the collapse before it happend ??? Holy Crap.... I suppose you all have a valid reason for who would be privy in the fog of events unfolding, that the buildings would collapse ::) This one statement is a wake the fuck up piece of evidence...
The next morning.... Giuliani: "Thanks God I'm a republican in NY... Thanks God I'm a republican in NY... Thanks God I'm a republican in NY... Thanks God I'm a republican in NY... Thanks God I'm a republican in NY..."
BWHAHahahahahhhahahahaha hahaha..... fucking amazing....
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Giuliani himself said he was told of the collapse before it happend ??? Holy Crap.... I suppose you all have a valid reason for who would be privy in the fog of events unfolding, that the buildings would collapse ::) This one statement is a wake the f**k up piece of evidence...
His own words. You can believe the 911 Truth movement will be all over an run of his to the White House. Why did 3000 die, all the while being told to 'return to their offices" by the Public announcement system, and Rudy has the luxury of this information?
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Giuliani himself said he was told of the collapse before it happend ??? Holy Crap.... I suppose you all have a valid reason for who would be privy in the fog of events unfolding, that the buildings would collapse ::) This one statement is a wake the f**k up piece of evidence...
..... fucking amazing....
Oh yeah, I remember reading it on all the front pages around the country.....don't you remember ::)??
Jeez, get over it!!
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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.giuliani.was.warned.wmv
IN his own words. He knew the towers were coming down despite no one in the FDNY knowing. He knew the towers were coming down despite there only being two small pockets of fire. He was warned prior to the collapse when no one else was.
Now Rudy might not have been in on things that day. But he should tell us who was on that radio, that saw him enter the building, and ordered him outta there immediately ;)
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Oh yeah, I remember reading it on all the front pages around the country.....don't you remember ::)??
Jeez, get over it!!
bollocks!!! This, from a bugger of skanky neocon traiiiiiitors! If you berks cock-up the west any worse, we're all done for! 9/11 ::)
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Oh yeah, I remember reading it on all the front pages around the country.....don't you remember ::)??
Jeez, get over it!!
ah... get over what? When very incriminating statements like this are made? WTF is your problem man?
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I said it ALOOOONG time ago, if Guliani wins the nomination he'll win by a landslide, and of course I'll vote for him....McCain is just too Liberal!
You call a man who cheated on his wife, got a divorce, the opposite of being liberal. he was being liberal with something (as was Clinton, it doesn't make it right)
His family values will questioned...
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You call a man who cheated on his wife, got a divorce, the opposite of being liberal. he was being liberal with something (as was Clinton, it doesn't make it right)
His family values will questioned...
omg he got DIVORCED? :o
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omg he got DIVORCED? :o
Sarcasm? have we had a divorced president?
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omg he got DIVORCED? :o
It's not the fact he got divorced. I think it's how it came about. My memory is fuzzy, but I recall he may have started an affair with his current woman while he was still married, and I think she actually moved in with him before he divorced his wife. Something like that. Definitely something that will cause problems for him with some conservative voters.
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ah... get over what? When very incriminating statements like this are made? WTF is your problem man?
Get over that the conspiracy therories are in the shitter and the only people that give a crap are the Bush haters because their the only ones that are really putting this crap out there like this wackjob.............
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/240.jpg)
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It's not the fact he got divorced. I think it's how it came about. My memory is fuzzy, but I recall he may have started an affair with his current woman while he was still married, and I think she actually moved in with him before he divorced his wife. Something like that. Definitely something that will cause problems for him with some conservative voters.
Exactly, I remember he performed a marriage ceremony for a couple, and i thought, "that marriage is doomed from the start. How are going to have man who fuq around on his wife perform your marriage. How can people be so blind. I don't trust him, and if he became president, he better give free economy size jars of Vaseline. Because he will screw the country real good.
Then what about him taking credit for keeping NYC together during 9/11? He did what any Mayor would have done, he's didn't do anything special. Plus he pro-gay rights (being in NYC does that to you). That will f him up with not just conservatives
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Intenseone
Noun:
Singular:
Intenseone
Plural:
Intenseones
1. A mechanical device intended to make a task easier.
2. Equipment used in a profession, e.g., tools of the trade.
3. (slang) A complete idiot.
4. (slang) Penis.
5. (slang) A person who uncritically supports and assists established authority. See sell out.
6. (slang) By association, any contemptible, inadequate, or unpleasant person.
7. (slang) A person who is used in relationships for reasons other than love.
LMAO....Hahahahahahaha!
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I just realized something.
911 Skeptics want what is right: A thorough, unbiased investigation of the event that has many unanswered questions.
Neocons want what is right for American Imperialism in the world.
And yall can call 9/11 skeptics crazy, you can call them idiots, you can call them anything... but at the end of the day, all they want is a full investigation of a crime in which 3000 died. They want the truth. They want answers. They want what's right. And if you want to shit on them for wanting the truth, feel free. That makes you the liars ;)