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Title: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 13, 2008, 12:36:20 PM

Here's my2 cents regarding milk : 


milk is not the best choice as far as foods that are nourishing go. For  starters, it's from a COW for a CALF...Casein, the protein inmilk has the lowest biological value of complete proteins, and not least, did I mention most people are more or less lactose intolerant ?.....I can't even begin to fathom who introduced us to cow milk or milk period, but I have a feeling that it's one of the et's that tinkered a bit with us. Same for meat in all it's forms. I'll say this one out loud: WE ARE NOT BUILT FOR MEAT. It's the reptiles that introduced us to it. If u study our digestive system and compare it to carnivorous animals/fish etc...you'll see vast differences. I strongly believe that we were at origins an agricultural race who did not bred animals to kill them later. We are not compatible with meat , which lowers our vibrations not to mention what we ingest and absorb after a cow has been frightened and terrorized with hammer blows to the skull to render it unconscious.


       The milk the cow produces to feed the baby cow is a SPECIFIC formula for the BABY COW. I wonder why don't we milk lactating women if milk is so nourishing ???  :-X  It's PERFECT for the baby from It's mom, but that's where it stops.


Any thoughts ?

Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 13, 2008, 12:40:55 PM
Let's not forget the latest craze in baby food ( don't worry : UNCLE SAM truly cares about your health ) .... :-X
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 13, 2008, 01:24:15 PM
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Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: wisconsinBB on March 13, 2008, 01:33:52 PM
Here's my2 cents regarding milk : 


milk is not the best choice as far as foods that are nourishing go. For  starters, it's from a COW for a CALF...Casein, the protein inmilk has the lowest biological value of complete proteins, and not least, did I mention most people are more or less lactose intolerant ?.....I can't even begin to fathom who introduced us to cow milk or milk period, but I have a feeling that it's one of the et's that tinkered a bit with us. Same for meat in all it's forms. I'll say this one out loud: WE ARE NOT BUILT FOR MEAT. It's the reptiles that introduced us to it. If u study our digestive system and compare it to carnivorous animals/fish etc...you'll see vast differences. I strongly believe that we were at origins an agricultural race who did not bred animals to kill them later. We are not compatible with meat , which lowers our vibrations not to mention what we ingest and absorb after a cow has been frightened and terrorized with hammer blows to the skull to render it unconscious.


       The milk the cow produces to feed the baby cow is a SPECIFIC formula for the BABY COW. I wonder why don't we milk lactating women if milk is so nourishing ???  :-X  It's PERFECT for the baby from It's mom, but that's where it stops.


Any thoughts ?


.


Are you suggesting we all drink breast milk.  I hear its hella-sour.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 13, 2008, 01:37:46 PM
Raw milk is a very different story.  90% of those who have lactose intolerance could handle raw milk just fine.  Same thing with full fat milk, not quite as much so as raw, but way more than regular or skim.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 13, 2008, 01:43:01 PM
u GUYS ARE TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT : YOU can also eat feces and be ok...but is it nourishing for u ?
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Mars on March 13, 2008, 02:03:15 PM
eating feces?
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 13, 2008, 02:06:17 PM
I'm not missing the point.  Check out realmilk.com.  I'm not sure that humans are specifically designed to drink cow milk, but it has nourishing qualities. 
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Mars on March 13, 2008, 02:08:15 PM
im milking the lizard right now on a nice rack of mother tits.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 13, 2008, 02:11:35 PM
I'm not missing the point.  Check out realmilk.com.  I'm not sure that humans are specifically designed to drink cow milk, but it has nourishing qualities. 
I can tell u for sure that I won't be checking out that site. But please think for yourself and nevermind the "experts" ....it is nourishing : for the calf sucking during that perios specifically....do you think cows exist in nature to feed u milk and for u to slaughter them for milk ? If so we got one unfair cruel god if u ask me. :-\
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: JasonH on March 13, 2008, 02:13:08 PM
Humans are the only mammals in the world who drink the milk of another animal. Thought for the day. ;)
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 13, 2008, 02:14:46 PM
Humans are the only mammals in the world who drink the milk of another animal. Thought for the day. ;)
thank u. Independent thinker of the day goes to you my friend. :)
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Stark on March 13, 2008, 02:23:14 PM
there is hardly anything that tastes better than ice cold milk right out of the fridge...
Of course only pussies drink out of a glass ;)... right out of the bottle tastes better too.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Mars on March 13, 2008, 02:29:51 PM
there is hardly anything that tastes better than ice cold milk right out of the fridge...
Of course only pussies drink out of a glass ;)... right out of the bottle tastes better too.

and at a hot summer day and being thirsty as hell. the only time i really enjoy drinking milk.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Special Ed on March 13, 2008, 02:48:44 PM
Humans are the only mammals in the world who drink the milk of another animal. Thought for the day. ;)
Humans are the only mammals in the world who wear the fur of another mammal. Thought for the day.

Oh yeah, that's because we're smarter than they are.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Beener on March 13, 2008, 02:53:29 PM
Semenreceptacle eats pieces of shit for breakfast!!
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: YoungBlood on March 13, 2008, 02:55:04 PM


Was I the only one that thought this thread was going to be about "TittyBoy"? ??? ??? ???

(Cue columbusdude)
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Jerryme7 on March 13, 2008, 03:03:26 PM
Quote from:  BigJ on Today at 02:13:08 PM
Quote
Humans are the only mammals in the world who drink the milk of another animal. Thought for the day.


Not true...there have been cases where dogs adopt kittens and become seregate mothers feeding kittens their milk.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: columbusdude82 on March 13, 2008, 03:16:54 PM

Was I the only one that thought this thread was going to be about "TittyBoy"? ??? ??? ???

(Cue columbusdude)

I swear man I was thinking just that. How could this thread have made it some far without this:

MMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: delta9mda on March 13, 2008, 03:22:44 PM
Here's my2 cents regarding milk : 


milk is not the best choice as far as foods that are nourishing go. For  starters, it's from a COW for a CALF...Casein, the protein inmilk has the lowest biological value of complete proteins, and not least, did I mention most people are more or less lactose intolerant ?.....I can't even begin to fathom who introduced us to cow milk or milk period, but I have a feeling that it's one of the et's that tinkered a bit with us. Same for meat in all it's forms. I'll say this one out loud: WE ARE NOT BUILT FOR MEAT. It's the reptiles that introduced us to it. If u study our digestive system and compare it to carnivorous animals/fish etc...you'll see vast differences. I strongly believe that we were at origins an agricultural race who did not bred animals to kill them later. We are not compatible with meat , which lowers our vibrations not to mention what we ingest and absorb after a cow has been frightened and terrorized with hammer blows to the skull to render it unconscious.


       The milk the cow produces to feed the baby cow is a SPECIFIC formula for the BABY COW. I wonder why don't we milk lactating women if milk is so nourishing ???  :-X  It's PERFECT for the baby from It's mom, but that's where it stops.


Any thoughts ?


you reiterate my thoughts. social medicine in your country but you gotta wait 5 hours to get seen? wtf?
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Fatpanda on March 13, 2008, 03:28:12 PM
bullshit, how would humans get essential fats if they stay on an cold northern hemisphere island? or the north pole? without animal meat.

think before you post.

hope this helps
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Jerryme7 on March 13, 2008, 03:30:06 PM
The human body has the enzymes to breakdown animal protein.

Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: phemonmmill32 on March 13, 2008, 03:33:14 PM
i totally disagree.  what's next, you're gonna say the calcium in milk is poisoning our body

you don't lack it, don't drink it and deal with the consequences down the road
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Epic_Monster on March 13, 2008, 04:54:10 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: technokc on March 13, 2008, 05:46:35 PM
hey what happened to taht titty thread on here? ??? >:(
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 13, 2008, 11:13:36 PM
bullshit, how would humans get essential fats if they stay on an cold northern hemisphere island? or the north pole? without animal meat.

think before you post.

hope this helps
eschimos come from a different place from a different geneticf background http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/contents.htm
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: JediKnight on March 13, 2008, 11:16:38 PM
Look at the milk in these utters,,,



MOO,,



Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Get Rowdy on March 14, 2008, 03:26:59 AM
Here's my2 cents regarding milk : 


milk is not the best choice as far as foods that are nourishing go. For  starters, it's from a COW for a CALF...Casein, the protein inmilk has the lowest biological value of complete proteins, and not least, did I mention most people are more or less lactose intolerant ?.....I can't even begin to fathom who introduced us to cow milk or milk period, but I have a feeling that it's one of the et's that tinkered a bit with us. Same for meat in all it's forms. I'll say this one out loud: WE ARE NOT BUILT FOR MEAT. It's the reptiles that introduced us to it. If u study our digestive system and compare it to carnivorous animals/fish etc...you'll see vast differences. I strongly believe that we were at origins an agricultural race who did not bred animals to kill them later. We are not compatible with meat , which lowers our vibrations not to mention what we ingest and absorb after a cow has been frightened and terrorized with hammer blows to the skull to render it unconscious.


       The milk the cow produces to feed the baby cow is a SPECIFIC formula for the BABY COW. I wonder why don't we milk lactating women if milk is so nourishing ???  :-X  It's PERFECT for the baby from It's mom, but that's where it stops.


Any thoughts ?



I appreciate what you've been posting lately about vibrations, ascension, etc;  but where are you going to get sufficient protein without eating meat?
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Playboy on March 14, 2008, 05:33:06 AM
Milk is for babies.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 14, 2008, 05:41:30 AM
I can tell u for sure that I won't be checking out that site. But please think for yourself and nevermind the "experts" ....it is nourishing : for the calf sucking during that perios specifically....do you think cows exist in nature to feed u milk and for u to slaughter them for milk ? If so we got one unfair cruel god if u ask me. :-\

How can you even debate something if you refuse to look at the other person's side?  That is the mark of a very ignorant person-an un-willingness to see all sides.  I know your side, I'm not saying that cow milk isn't for the calf, I'm saying that it has some beneficial properties, thus is nourishing, for the human as well-that's not to say that it doesn't have some detrimental properties as well for humans.  It is designed for the calf, but can help the human-especially if the mother is particularly unhealthy and shouldn't be breast feeding.   
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Epic_Monster on March 14, 2008, 06:19:55 AM
I swear man I was thinking just that. How could this thread have made it some far without this:

MMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 ;D
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: chester_bbb on March 14, 2008, 06:35:17 AM
eating feces?

Dookie taster. :D
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 07:02:44 AM
How can you even debate something if you refuse to look at the other person's side?  That is the mark of a very ignorant person-an un-willingness to see all sides.  I know your side, I'm not saying that cow milk isn't for the calf, I'm saying that it has some beneficial properties, thus is nourishing, for the human as well-that's not to say that it doesn't have some detrimental properties as well for humans.  It is designed for the calf, but can help the human-especially if the mother is particularly unhealthy and shouldn't be breast feeding.   
It's like this : u speak a diff language than me. Do u think I was born yesterday and dunno anything what's been said and researched about milk in the past 200 years ?? My point is this : I'm offering u a whole diff point of view maybe it'll open your mind. This is not a debate by the way. I don't like to debate.I say my piece and u make of it  whatever your intellect or heart dictates u to.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 14, 2008, 07:08:52 AM
You're not offering me a whole different point of view, I wrote a research paper on the natural diet of man in college. I've gone over this milk issue a thousand times with other people and with myself.  Just like everything else, for some it's good, for some it's not.  Un-pasteurized is almost always better for pretty much everyone.  Someone starved for fat would do very well drinking raw cow milk or full fat milk, thus nourishing for them...same with any number of different situations, like the one I mentioned above.  Here's the bottom line with diet, much like everything else: the right diet is entirely based on your life's plan.  That simple, everything is based on what you want out of life.  I know plenty of long term and even no so long term raw vegans that added raw milk/dairy and experienced great health benefits after numerous deficiency issues.  And I know plenty of people who, after a time, do worse on dairy.  This is the same as the meat argument.  What's most important is that the food is humanely raised and grown in an evironmentally suitable manner.  Then everything is based on each person's different situation.  
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 07:22:18 AM
You're not offering me a whole different point of view, I wrote a research paper on the natural diet of man in college. I've gone over this milk issue a thousand times with other people and with myself.  Just like everything else, for some it's good, for some it's not.  Un-pasteurized is almost always better for pretty much everyone.  Someone starved for fat would do very well drinking raw cow milk or full fat milk, thus nourishing for them...same with any number of different situations, like the one I mentioned above.  Here's the bottom line with diet, much like everything else: the right diet is entirely based on your life's plan.  That simple, everything is based on what you want out of life.  I know plenty of long term and even no so long term raw vegans that added raw milk/dairy and experienced great health benefits after numerous deficiency issues.  And I know plenty of people who, after a time, do worse on dairy.  This is the same as the meat argument.  What's most important is that the food is humanely raised and grown in an evironmentally suitable manner.  Then everything is based on each person's different situation.   

Do you know how Kobe beef is obtained ? humanly raised ? bwahaha  :-X


Nourishing it's not an argument...as I said : there's good stuff in piss too but it doesn't mean it's your best option. ;)


"  What's most important is that the food is humanely raised and grown in an evironmentally suitable manner.  Then everything is based on each person's different situation.   "


How do you humanly off a cow ????? ...do you make a plush pink hammer to focking knock it out ? Do you cut her throat with her favourite knife it's mommy gave it to her ?


  ""Slaughterhouse takes readers on a frightening but true journey from one slaughterhouse to another throughout the country. Along the way, we encounter example after example of mistreated animals, intolerable working conditions, lax standards, the slow, painful deaths of children killed as a result of eating contaminated meat, the author's battle with the major television networks, and a dangerously corrupt federal agency that chooses to do nothing rather than risk the wrath of agribusiness, before the whole affair is blown wide open in this powerful exposé.

In the last 15 years, thousands of America's small to mid-sized slaughterhouses have been displaced by a few large, high-speed operations, each with the capacity to kill more than a million animals a year. With fewer slaughterhouses killing an ever-growing number of animals, slaughter "line speeds" have accelerated and a production mentality has emerged in which the rapid slaughter line never seems to stop for anything -- not for injured workers, not for contaminated meat, and, least of all, not for slow or disabled animals.

While investigating the slaughter industry, Eisnitz gains the trust of dozens of workers across the United States. Without exception, the individuals interviewed admit to deliberately beating, strangling, boiling, or dismembering animals alive in violation of the federal Humane Slaughter Act or failing to report those who did -- all in an effort to "keep the production line running." Many also discuss the web of violence in which they have become ensnared and the alcoholism and physical abuse that plague their personal lives.

In an effort to understand how such rampant violations could occur right under the noses of United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) inspectors -- the individuals charged with enforcing humane regulations in slaughterhouses -- Eisnitz examines the inspectors' track record for enforcing meat and poultry safety regulations, their primary responsibility. Following a long paper trail, she learns that contaminated meat and poultry are pouring out of federally inspected slaughterhouses and, not surprisingly, deaths from foodborne illness have quadrupled in the United States in the last 15 years.

Determined to tell the whole story, Eisnitz then examines the physical price paid by employees working in one of America's most dangerous industries. In addition to suffering disfiguring injuries and crippling repetitive-motion disorders, employees describe tyrannical working conditions in which grievances are met with severe reprisals or dismissals. ""
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 14, 2008, 07:37:56 AM
You do it quickly and as painlessly as possible.  Although, I should add that a lot of animals in the wild take like an hour to kill their prey, so as far as slaughtering goes, we humans can offer cows a much better option than many other animals do!  There are plenty of options out there-it's not just black and white.  When I lived in the states, I often bought from the Amish, other small farmers, online from reputable sources-specifically religious ones.  It's not factory farm torture or be a vegan.  You an show us all the factory farm pictures in the world and it won't mean a thing other than we shouldn't support factory farms and their slaughter houses.   And given your strong feelings on the subject, can we assume that you are extremely strict in your vegan lifestyle-not only with food, but with clothes, furniture, and everything else?
  And once again, even what's BEST is still totally based on the person's life's plan.  I can't name a single person that lives soley to keep their body in 100% working order.  A lot of people like to think they do, but they don't.  Sure, milk, even raw, has some negative effects, but for some people the positive far outway the negative.   You'd be hard pressed to find food that is perfect in every sense-if raw vegetables were, then we'd see a lot more healthy long term vegans.  If a strictly animal based diet was, then we'd see a lot more people going that route and doing great.  Lo and behold, we don't.  The answer is to eat what is best for you when it is best for you based on your goals in life(which include being happy and having fun) 
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 08:10:58 AM
You do it quickly and as painlessly as possible.  Although, I should add that a lot of animals in the wild take like an hour to kill their prey, so as far as slaughtering goes, we humans can offer cows a much better option than many other animals do!  There are plenty of options out there-it's not just black and white.  When I lived in the states, I often bought from the Amish, other small farmers, online from reputable sources-specifically religious ones.  It's not factory farm torture or be a vegan.  You an show us all the factory farm pictures in the world and it won't mean a thing other than we shouldn't support factory farms and their slaughter houses.   And given your strong feelings on the subject, can we assume that you are extremely strict in your vegan lifestyle-not only with food, but with clothes, furniture, and everything else?
  And once again, even what's BEST is still totally based on the person's life's plan.  I can't name a single person that lives soley to keep their body in 100% working order.  A lot of people like to think they do, but they don't.  Sure, milk, even raw, has some negative effects, but for some people the positive far outway the negative.   You'd be hard pressed to find food that is perfect in every sense-if raw vegetables were, then we'd see a lot more healthy long term vegans.  If a strictly animal based diet was, then we'd see a lot more people going that route and doing great.  Lo and behold, we don't.  The answer is to eat what is best for you when it is best for you based on your goals in life(which include being happy and having fun) 
Ohbrother..I do hope that one day u wake up and smell the roses because I'm telling u brother : U are not even close to the essence of the matter.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Fatpanda on March 14, 2008, 08:26:41 AM
morally i believe kiling animals is wrong, and if i could get the nutritional benefits elsewhere i would, but the FACTS are humans have evolved on a paleo diet, animal meat and some veg and fruit. we need protein and efa's to survive. can we survive eating only veg and carbs - yes, is it optimal - no.

sayin that, if we ate nothing but veg and carbs for a few generations i'm sure we would evolve to where it was optimal.

oh and how do you know i'm not an eskimo? :o
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2008, 08:38:00 AM
humane killing of animals is fine, as long as your going to eat it. I don't eat veal, kobe,  or young chicken tho.
yeah, milk is not good for you. But It taste so damn good.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 14, 2008, 09:02:41 AM
Ohbrother..I do hope that one day u wake up and smell the roses because I'm telling u brother : U are not even close to the essence of the matter.

  All I can say is that I've heard that ten thousand times and, 9,999 of those times it came from someone talking the talk and not walking the walk; and that's the feeling I'm getting here.  Funny considering my own lifestyle. 
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 09:16:21 AM
When you look at the comparison between herbivores and humans, we compare much more closely to herbivores than meat eating animals. Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat.



Meat-eaters: have claws

Herbivores: no claws

Humans: no claws



Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue

Herbivores: perspire through skin pores

Humans: perspire through skin pores



Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding

Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding

Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding



Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly

Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.

Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.



Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat

Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater

Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater



Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.

Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits

Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits



Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Based on a chart by A.D. Andrews, Fit Food for Men, (Chicago: American Hygiene Society, 1970)





Clearly if humans were meant to eat meat we wouldn't have so many crucial ingestive/digestive similarities with animals that are herbivores.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Laura Lee on March 14, 2008, 09:17:25 AM
Humans are the only mammals in the world who have sex for pleasure. Thought for the day. ;)
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 09:20:08 AM
Humans are the only mammals in the world who have sex for pleasure. Thought for the day. ;)

Also they suck each other penises and love to insert their peepee in holes not designed for entry....feel me Laura ?  :o
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Laura Lee on March 14, 2008, 09:24:11 AM
Also they suck each other penises and love to insert their peepee in holes not designed for entry....feel me Laura ?  :o
Piggy >:(
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: fitt@40 on March 14, 2008, 09:34:07 AM
Humans are the only mammals in the world who have sex for pleasure. Thought for the day. ;)


Actually a group of monkeys called Bonobos engage in sex for pleasure.  I think dolphins do too.  Okay, maybe I watch too much National Geographics!!
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: warrior_code on March 14, 2008, 09:40:21 AM
When you look at the comparison between herbivores and humans, we compare much more closely to herbivores than meat eating animals. Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat.



Meat-eaters: have claws

Herbivores: no claws

Humans: no claws



Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue

Herbivores: perspire through skin pores

Humans: perspire through skin pores



Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding

Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding

Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding



Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly

Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.

Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.



Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat

Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater

Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater



Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.

Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits

Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits



Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Based on a chart by A.D. Andrews, Fit Food for Men, (Chicago: American Hygiene Society, 1970)





Clearly if humans were meant to eat meat we wouldn't have so many crucial ingestive/digestive similarities with animals that are herbivores.


Do you refuse to fly in a airplane because humans were not "meant" to fly as we do not have wings? 
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 09:44:32 AM
You know w.child...IT'S OK TO BE DIFFERENT..I've learned that lately :)
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: kcballer on March 14, 2008, 09:46:43 AM
Spermaste really you are full of sh*t.  Humans aren't suppose to eat meat hahaha what a tool.  Just how exactly would early age humans get enough iron, protein and other minerals? By eating grass all day? Because they sure as sh*t didn't have little farms planting carrots and other vegetables now did they? Humans wouldn't have survived at all, how about fats too spermatse? how were they suppose to get those? eat flax seed? cause you know they knew the nutritional properties of food back then  ::)
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: phemonmmill32 on March 14, 2008, 10:07:29 AM
the only healthy looking vegetarians you see are the ones that eat fish, which is a meat.. the others ones look frail and have unhealthy smokers-like skin
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: knny187 on March 14, 2008, 10:15:30 AM
the only healthy looking vegetarians you see are the ones that eat fish, which is a meat.. the others ones look frail and have unhealthy smokers-like skin


Bill Pearl?

No fish..no meat....did have poultry (eggs, etc) but not sure if it included chicken....i doubt it.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: kcballer on March 14, 2008, 10:17:35 AM
the only healthy looking vegetarians you see are the ones that eat fish, which is a meat.. the others ones look frail and have unhealthy smokers-like skin

exactly! not to mention female vegetarians who have rubbish immune systems and are notorious for low iron levels.  It takes around 5kg of spinich to recieve the same amount of iron as a well proportioned piece of lean beef.  

In fact you ask most nutritionists and they'll say it's cruel to even attempt to not feed children dairy or meat.  It's essential for proper brain development and growth.  
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 10:42:16 AM
exactly! not to mention female vegetarians who have rubbish immune systems and are notorious for low iron levels.  It takes around 5kg of spinich to recieve the same amount of iron as a well proportioned piece of lean beef. 

In fact you ask most nutritionists and they'll say it's cruel to even attempt to not feed children dairy or meat.  It's essential for proper brain development and growth. 
You have been brainwashed by "accepted science " and u dismiss quickly anyone who suggests different.

I think we outsheeped the sheep so to speak if I may quote David Icke : at least the sheep need a watchdog to keep them in line but us humans we police each other....the moment one of us steps outside the boundaries and proposes something logic but radically diff than the pseudo science we've been fed all our lives, everyone jumps on him and they are quick to ridicule.

I want for once kcballer ( your name betrays the graymatter of an above average thinker  ::) ) to stop thinking with your left brain that they fed for u all these years with useless info and start feeling the obvious from a " right side " perspective so to speak. Can u do that for me ?
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Monster_Everything on March 14, 2008, 10:44:38 AM
I see that the 'spaceship' has reached its destination at Sevetease house after landing at Waddy's then Candidizzles...
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: CalvinH on March 14, 2008, 10:59:15 AM
If no milk then what am I suppose to pour in my bowl of Captain Crunch ???
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 14, 2008, 11:17:23 AM
Nobody, absolutely nobody, argues that humans are herbivores-the argument is that they are frugivores-if you think that a human is an herbivore then you are going to have a hell of a time eating grass without 2 more stomachs and some 60,000 digestive enzymes along your intestinal tract.  How about some characteristics that you missed-herbivores tend to have eyes on the sides of their head, they tend to have hooves, they tend to have flat square teeth...there's more.  You also used information from 1970 which is suspect.  What you should be looking at is the digestive system specifically-ours has qualities of both meat eating animals as well as non meat eating animals-intenstinal length is in the middle, HCL is more so than non meat eating but less so than carnivorous animals, we have teeth that are used for both grinding as well as tearing, and most IMPORTANTLY we have a brain and hands to do with what we want-that's we came into existance as we did.  And for the record, our closest relatives, the bonobo chimps are omnivores-they eat mice, rats, insects, all kinds of little rodents as well as vegetation.
   Pretty much all attempts at a totally frugivore or fruitarian lifestyle long term have failed.  Frugivores or fruitarians tend to have serious emotional issues caused by excessive sugar intake.  Plus, their teeth literally and nails literally start disintigrating.  You'll find very few people who stick to one and only one 'style' of eating who enjoy good health over the long run.  Once again, this is a subject I have devoted my life to for the last several years.

   Once again, the best diet is the one that evolves as you evolve, the one that supports your life's plan.  And again, I smell someone talking the talk and not walking the walk. If I find out that you are not VEGAN(not just vegetarian), and in all areas of life, I'm going to be awfully disappointed.  In addition to that, to be less harmful to society and the environment, the optimal diet of man should be sustainable locally-this means no shipping in food from all over the globe to meet you nutritional requirements.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 11:18:00 AM
If no milk then what am I suppose to pour in my bowl of Captain Crunch ???
:D...try this :


                                Mummy Food
Recipe By     : Edgar Cayce
Serving Size  : 4    Preparation Time :8:20
Categories    : Cereals
  Amount  Measure       Ingredient -- Preparation Method
--------  ------------  --------------------------------
     1/2  Cup           Dates,Chopped
     1/2  Cup           Black Mission Figs,Dried,Chopped
   1 1/2  Cups          Water
   1      Tablespoon    Cornmeal
1)  Soak dates and figs overnight in water.
2)  Cook in a saucepan over low heat, stirring constantly.  Add corn meal slowly.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 11:20:30 AM
In my oppinion human diet should be 80 % alkaline and only 20 or less acidic. Colds and viruses do not/cannot exist in alkaline environment. Not only that but fcuking with the body alk/acid ballance is fukcing with your well being.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 14, 2008, 11:22:40 AM
that is true, for the most part, but the best way to keep from getting sick and being at the mercy of viruses and bacteria is to be a clean, non toxic organism-ideally, imho, organic, raw diet, no food combining, clean air, clean water.  PH balance comes after this.  Plenty of vegans still get sick despite their alkalinity.   ok...one more time: there are times when it's best to be vegan, there are times when it's best to eat meat, there are times when it's best to drink milk-more Standard American Dieters need to realize this and get their acts together(whereas most just do the same thing over and over again and support very unsustainable farming as well) and so do more nazi special dieters.  What is truly best for the human being is best for the other human beings because you won't have to do something drastic to make up for the area in which you lack-which most everyone ultimately ends up doing when sticking with any scheme but the 'do what works and works best' scheme. 
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2008, 11:32:25 AM
When you look at the comparison between herbivores and humans, we compare much more closely to herbivores than meat eating animals. Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat.



Meat-eaters: have claws

Herbivores: no claws

Humans: no claws



Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue

Herbivores: perspire through skin pores

Humans: perspire through skin pores



Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding

Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding

Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding



Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly

Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.

Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.



Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat

Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater

Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater



Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.

Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits

Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits



Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains

Based on a chart by A.D. Andrews, Fit Food for Men, (Chicago: American Hygiene Society, 1970)





Clearly if humans were meant to eat meat we wouldn't have so many crucial ingestive/digestive similarities with animals that are herbivores.

So yur saying that we should go back to walking on all fours? ::)
People can make fire and cook food. People have adapted to eat meat. People loss the ability to fully digest corn. People have problems eating most things raw.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 14, 2008, 11:36:28 AM
I am a former bodybuilder very familiar with meat. I am however a vegan now...meaning I DO NOT EAT ANY ANIMAL PRODUCTS.....I moonwalk the walk by the way . You are tellling me what u think which is ok. But u haven't touched on anything specific. The human species has suffered NUMEROUS interventions and combinations and permutations throughout time. There's 85 % your DNA that our " SCIENTISTS " cannot explain . There's 90 % plus of your brain that is not used....our definitions of history are VERY different my swedish buddy.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Swedish Viking on March 14, 2008, 11:46:54 AM
I really don't they are.  I am well aware of the short comings over modern day explanations for everything.  I'm very new agey, to be honest and am very to to date on all things metaphysical.  And of course your own opinions are welcome here as well. 
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2008, 11:47:12 AM
I am a former bodybuilder very familiar with meat. I am however a vegan now...meaning I DO NOT EAT ANY ANIMAL PRODUCTS.....I moonwalk the walk by the way . You are tellling me what u think which is ok. But u haven't touched on anything specific. The human species has suffered NUMEROUS interventions and combinations and permutations throughout time. There's 85 % your DNA that our " SCIENTISTS " cannot explain . There's 90 % plus of your brain that is not used....our definitions of history are VERY different my swedish buddy.
Neuroscience For Kids
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Laura Lee on March 14, 2008, 11:49:41 AM
I am a former bodybuilder very familiar with meat. I am however a vegan now...meaning I DO NOT EAT ANY ANIMAL PRODUCTS.....I moonwalk the walk by the way . You are tellling me what u think which is ok. But u haven't touched on anything specific. The human species has suffered NUMEROUS interventions and combinations and permutations throughout time. There's 85 % your DNA that our " SCIENTISTS " cannot explain . There's 90 % plus of your brain that is not used....our definitions of history are VERY different my swedish buddy.
You take in no whey products?

What do you take in for protein?
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Playboy on March 14, 2008, 12:52:47 PM
You take in no whey products?

What do you take in for protein?
You're surprised Laura? This mentality explains why he weighs 150lbs soaked and wet.  ::)
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: stormshadow on March 14, 2008, 10:52:42 PM
You take in no whey products?

What do you take in for protein?

He is known for a hot beef injection in the ass.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: haider on March 14, 2008, 11:13:30 PM
Look at the milk in these utters,,,



MOO,,




I hope u get mauled by a fucking bear if u post that pic again u lame fuck  >:(
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Rami on March 14, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
I wonder why don't we milk lactating women if milk is so nourishing



It is done. But it's not as profitable. Contrary to the cow, a female of human species have legal rights that she knows of so 1, have to be a voluntary action. 2, most likely to volunteer would require monetary compensation. 3 The milk would have to be tested to for chemicals/diseases/drugs etc as they are not in a controlled environment all the time. So one liter of fresh human breast milk would be X times higher.

A cow on the other hand have no legal rights, easily reproduced and reaching lactating stage very fast, easy to handle, high milk producing capacity, requires nothing back etc. The only missing piece was to convince people that they should drink it, and that was apparently the easy part according to sales.

But I'm pretty sure you can buy human breast milk though not fresh and maybe not at Wal-Mart. I'm surprised it is not more popular, maybe with some chocolate whey protein powder pre-workout.

Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: LatsMcGee on March 14, 2008, 11:47:29 PM
I am a former bodybuilder very familiar with meat.

This sums it all up in one post for you folks.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 15, 2008, 02:22:37 AM
You take in no whey products?

What do you take in for protein?
I do not bodybuild anymore...:)...I'm focused on getting the best I can for my body given what's available out there.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 15, 2008, 02:23:56 AM
It is done. But it's not as profitable. Contrary to the cow, a female of human species have legal rights that she knows of so 1, have to be a voluntary action. 2, most likely to volunteer would require monetary compensation. 3 The milk would have to be tested to for chemicals/diseases/drugs etc as they are not in a controlled environment all the time. So one liter of fresh human breast milk would be X times higher.

A cow on the other hand have no legal rights, easily reproduced and reaching lactating stage very fast, easy to handle, high milk producing capacity, requires nothing back etc. The only missing piece was to convince people that they should drink it, and that was apparently the easy part according to sales.

But I'm pretty sure you can buy human breast milk though not fresh and maybe not at Wal-Mart. I'm surprised it is not more popular, maybe with some chocolate whey protein powder pre-workout.


Very well put Rami.
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 15, 2008, 07:28:54 AM
 :)

DIET RECOMMENDATIONS
FROM THE EDGAR CAYCE READINGS
"It is rather the Combination of foods that nakes for the disturbance in most physical bodies." (416)
FRUITS
"Do not combine acid-reacting fruits (citrus--orange, grapefruit, lemon) with starches (corn, potatoes, rice, spaghetti) other than whole wheat bread.
"And do not have cereals, which contain a greater quantity of starch than most, at the same meal with citrus fruits." (416-10)
"In the morning eat citrus fruit, or stewed fruits (figs, prunes), but do not serve the stewed fruits with citrus fruit juices, nor the citrus with a dry cereal." (623-1)
"If raw apples are taken, take them and nothing else." (820-2) (Baked or cooked apples can be served with meals.)
"Sweets and meats taken at the same meal are preferable to starches and meats. " (Normal Diet Book, p. 14) "Avoid too many heavy meats, not well cooked. Meats taken should preferably be fish, fowl and lamb, bacon (crisp), taken occasionally." (3596-1)
"Keep away from red meats, ham, or rare steak or roasts." (3596-1)
"No FRIED foods, ..but baked, broiled or roasted." (5269-1)
VEGETABLES
"The adherence to the use of Carrots, Lettuce and Celery every day at a meal, or portion of a meal, will insure against contagious infectious forces with which the body maybe in contact." (480-17)
"Have at least one meal each day that includes a quantity of raw vegetables such as cabbage, leaf lettuce, celery, carrots, onions and the like. Do have plenty of vegetables grown above ground." (2602-1)
"Use at least three vegetables that grow above the ground to one that grows under ground." (3373-1)
"Eat plenty of lettuce; should always be eaten by almost every body, for this supplies an effluvium (purifier) in the blood stream that is a destructive force to most of those influences that attack the blood stream." (404-6)
"The tomato is one vegetable that in most instances ...is preferable to be eaten after being canned, for it is then much more uniform. The reaction from non-canned tomatoes in this body, then, has been to form an acid of its own; though the tomato is among those foods which may be termed non-acid forming." (584-5)
"Often use the raw vegetables which are prepared with gelatin. Use them at least three times each week." (3051)
"It isn't the vitamin content in gelatin (which is important) but its ability to work with the activities of the glands. It enables the glands to take from what has been absorbed or digested the vitamins ... otherwise inactive if it were not for sufficient gelatin in the body." (849-66)
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 15, 2008, 07:51:30 AM
Your whole argument is flawed. You say we aren't built for meat. We can digest it. We can't digest fruit and veg, we don't have the necessary enzymes, therefore we're less well built for fruit and veg if you want to apply that argument. Also, we wouldn't be where we are today if we hadn't started eating meat. It's not a coincidence we leapt forward in evolution of brain size and complexity when we started eating meat.
Now, hold on a second : U are telling me that before : we used all our brain, all our dna made sense, we ate what the earth offered us.

NOW: we use 8-10 % of our brain capacity, we cannot account for most of our dna, we eat meat and animal byproducts ....AND U ARE SAYING WE EVOLVED?? ........It doesn't make sense .  :-\

Our body can adapt to anything because it's a fantastic bio supercomputer , a superconductor with an immensly complex central unit ( the brain ) and an incredible micro chip ( our DNA ).

It manifests what we call reality because it ( the superconductor, computer ) manages to decode all the different vibrational intensities that manifest as matter all around us.

Just like a computer using a screen, manifests images that exist only as energy in the ether or the internet matrix.

 Following me ?

Our soul or better said ourselves use this fantastic supercomputer to manifest reality all around us. Sorry I went a little off subject. We were introduced to meat and animal products, and at the same time we went through some transformations as a specie. I am talking about before that....way before...as a human race....read this link : http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles33.htm#The%20Draconians%20and%20the%20Paa%20Tal
Title: Re: Got milk ?
Post by: Red Hook on March 15, 2008, 07:53:23 AM
this thread needs more pics of tits