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I love it!!!! I fucking love it!!! Just pop a few of these and elation follows and the most awesome feeling of mental clarity. It is better than coke, booze, benzos, E and all that shit....it hits you so hard, man. So fucking hard....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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What is it exactly bro. What is it classified as?
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nice!
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whatever floats your boat!
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What is it exactly bro. What is it classified as?
It is a sympathomimetic amine and a psychostimulant, with stronger dopaminergic action rather than adrenergic action and with more action on the CNS rather than on the cardiovascular system. It acts by causing the release and inhibiting the reuptake of the neurotransmitters norepinephrine and dopamine in the brain, with a more pronounced action on the latter neurotransmitter. It is a stronger stimulant than cocaine and a stronger euphoriant than Ritalin.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Do we have to have a P.hd with a doctorate in biochemical engineering from MIT like you probably have to be able to purchase it?? ::)
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speed city
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Do we have to have a P.hd with a doctorate in biochemical engineering from MIT like you probably have to be able to purchase it??
No, just a doctor willing to prescribe it and to explain to the DEA why you need this medication. It is prescribed for nacolepsy and ADHD, although very few doctors would prescribe a drug as powerful as this to treat ADHD. Usually, they prescribe Ritalin or Adderall for thsi purpose.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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pharm grade meth
I can see why you like it.
Getting this prescribed for ADHD would be like getting prescribed Oxycontin for a mosquito bite.
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im going to see if my doc will prescribe it. prozac and wellbutrin aint doin shit
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good to see I'm not the only drug fiend around here :D
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I take valium for anxiety...............do ctor prescribed along with Cymbalta which isn`t doing shit for me.
I like feeling mellow as I`m one stressed out SOB at times.
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I take valium for anxiety...............do ctor prescribed along with Cymbalta which isn`t doing shit for me.
I like feeling mellow as I`m one stressed out SOB at times.
Old fucks like you always get whatever they want out of the doctor.... :( :'(
Lucky bastard. ;D
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pharm grade meth
I can see why you like it.
Yep. Here is my bottle of methamphetamine at 99.99% purity straight from the pharmacy. The difference between this and street meth is like night and day. Trust me: there is a huge difference between a drug made by junkies with barely a high school education in their bath tubs and drugs made by professional chemists with their fancy PhDs on fully equiped lab. This makes street meth seem like coffee in comparison.
Getting this prescribed for ADHD would be like getting prescribed Oxycontin for a mosquito bite.
Exactly. It is literally 10 X more powerful than Ritalin. A doctor who prescribes this for ADHD will have a team of 20 DEA agents invading his office in less than an hour to take him into custody and interrogate him exactly why alternative medications didn't work. This is why no doctor prescribes this for ADHD. The only legitimate use for it is to treat narcolepsy, a very serious condition for which this is the only drug that works.
To get a prescription for this, I had to fake narcolepsy and go to several doctors until one finally decided to prescribe it. This is probably the hardest drug to get of all. Even morphine is not as controlled.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Provigil replaced this for narcolepsy patients though Provigil can be abused for recreational purposes also I am betting no where near the rush that would produce.
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Old fucks like you always get whatever they want out of the doctor.... :( :'(
Lucky bastard. ;D
Being old and decrepit does have its advantages at times. ;D
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A study performed on female Japanese prison inmates suffering from methamphetamine addiction showed 20% experienced a psychosis resembling schizophrenia which persisted for longer than six months post-methamphetamine use; this amphetamine psychosis could be resistant to traditional treatment.[7]
It's now clear how sucky-sucky comes up with those ridiculous claims of his... ;D
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I'm happy with my ephedrine on a night out.
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I'm happy with my ephedrine on a night out.
Trust me: removing the Oxygen atom of your ephedrine would make it much better. Much, much better...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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pharma grade meth thats awesome
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Yep. Here is my bottle of methamphetamine at 99.99% purity straight from the pharmacy. The difference between this and street meth is like night and day. Trust me: there is a huge difference between a drug made by junkies with barely a high school education in their bath tubs and drugs made by professional chemists with their fancy PhDs on fully equiped lab. This makes street meth seem like coffee in comparison.
To get a prescription for this, I had to fake narcolepsy and go to several doctors until one finally decided to prescribe it. This is probably the hardest drug to get of all. Even morphine is not as controlled.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I'm not prone to coarse hyperbole...but this shit WILL fuck your life up....BADLY...and it will happen faster than you think.
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i squatted 405 on provigil during winter break... lol
hadnt lifted more than 2 plates for a couple of reps in the past six months
bizarre
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I'm not prone to coarse hyperbole...but this shit WILL fuck your life up....BADLY...and it will happen faster than you think.
::)
its suckmymuscle we are talking about here
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A study performed on female Japanese prison inmates suffering from methamphetamine addiction showed 20% experienced a psychosis resembling schizophrenia which persisted for longer than six months post-methamphetamine use; this amphetamine psychosis could be resistant to traditional treatment.[7]
It's now clear how sucky-sucky comes up with those ridiculous claims of his... ;D
A ripped to the bone 6'5 380 pound JUNKIE who breaks German Shepards spine like a Thanksgiving day wishbone and eats only the finest prime cuts of Kangaroo meat and Boer Goat quality milk imported overnight, first class on a Lear jet and then served "breakfast in bed" style to him and his $3000 a night escorts....Only on getbig.com baybee!!!! ;D
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Trust me: removing the Oxygen atom of your ephedrine would make it much better. Much, much better...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
The most spaced out I've ever felt was on Ephedrine and Diazepam whilst pissed up, mad vibes.
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A ripped to the bone 6'5 380 pound JUNKIE who breaks German Shepards spine like a Thanksgiving day wishbone and eats only the finest prime cuts of Kangaroo meat and Boer Goat quality milk imported overnight, first class on a Lear jet and then served "breakfast in bed" style to him and his $3000 a night escorts....Only on getbig.com baybee!!!! ;D
thats sounds like a passionate bodybuilder with lots of money unique tastes and like to have fun...
whats so hard to believe about that?
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A ripped to the bone 6'5 380 pound JUNKIE who breaks German Shepards spine like a Thanksgiving day wishbone and eats only the finest prime cuts of Kangaroo meat and Boer Goat quality milk imported overnight, first class on a Lear jet and then served "breakfast in bed" style to him and his $3000 a night escorts....Only on getbig.com baybee!!!! ;D
I never claimed to be 380 lbs and I am not a junkie.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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A ripped to the bone 6'5 380 pound JUNKIE who breaks German Shepards spine like a Thanksgiving day wishbone and eats only the finest prime cuts of Kangaroo meat and Boer Goat quality milk imported overnight, first class on a Lear jet and then served "breakfast in bed" style to him and his $3000 a night escorts....Only on getbig.com baybee!!!! ;D
Fucking hilarious dude! LOL ;D
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I never claimed to be 380 lbs and I am not a junkie.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You will be.
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thats sounds like a passionate bodybuilder with lots of money unique tastes and like to have fun...
whats so hard to believe about that?
Yeah you are right. That sounds like a typical boring Tuesday for me.....I drop much more cash on the weekends. :)
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Yeah you are right. That sounds like a typical boring Tuesday for me.....I drop much more cash on the weekends. :)
ummmm some people have a lot of money... :-\
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No, just a doctor willing to prescribe it and to explain to the DEA why you need this medication. It is prescribed for nacolepsy and ADHD, although very few doctors would prescribe a drug as powerful as this to treat ADHD. Usually, they prescribe Ritalin or Adderall for thsi purpose.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You can either go to an MD, a Nurse Practitioner or a Physician's Assistant.
Sucky, that stuff is a little dangerous man, be careful..
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Guys, this is seriously the strongest shit you'll ever try. I swear, taking this shit orally makes snorting coke seem like a cup of coffee in comparison. I cannot even imagine how strong this shit would feel if I snorted it. The reason why I don't do it is because snorting amphetamines can actually give you a stroke almost instantly.
I was used to snorting Ritalin for fun, so I thought I knew what to expect when I tried this for the first time. Boy, was I wrong!!!! I took 10 mg the first time, and it made the 100 mg of Ritalin I was used to snort at once seem like a cup of coffee compared to the 100 mg of Ritalin. It was 3:00 AM and I was exhausted so I swallowed it and forgot about it. About 15 minutes latter BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM M!!!!!!!!! It was like my heart was about to explode from my chest and I felt like I had just won the lottery, and my eyes were literally glued to my eye sockets. Know the feeling you had the first time you fucked a woman and she dropped her panties? The feeling of excitment and happiness is 10 X greater.
This shit is literally 10 X more powerful than Ritalin and 100 X more powerful than weight-loss stimulants like diethylpropion. It is the most fucked up shit ever and I love it!!!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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he's not really taking meth, I raped him and owned his mind on the other thread, so he figured he'd try to connect with the board somehow and what better way to do that than a drug post.
Yeah, you melted down pretty badly with a 50 paragraph meltdown. :D
Seriously, dude, get a grip. You are a very sad individual if you think I care what some anonymous people in a message board who I will never meet in my life think of me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Americans and their pills ;D
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lolol, is that why you acted like a butthurt spiteful little twat for the rest of the thread, before it naturally fizzled out?
you're a total loser if you need chemicals like that to alter your brain chemistry so you can feel good about yourself, go out you punk, and try to connect with someone in real life, better yet, try to pick up a girl, that high is so powerful you carry it with you for days
benzos and coke and booze and E
keep telling yourself you're not a junkie, you abject loser
keep telling yourself...
keep...
Another meltdown. ;D I own your mind. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Guys, this is seriously the strongest shit you'll ever try. I swear, taking this shit orally makes snorting coke seem like a cup of coffee in comparison. I cannot even imagine how strong this shit would feel if I snorted it. The reason why I don't do it is because snorting amphetamines can actually give you a stroke almost instantly.
I was used to snorting Ritalin for fun, so I thought I knew what to expect when I tried this for the first time. Boy, was I wrong!!!! I took 10 mg the first time, and it made the 100 mg of Ritalin I was used to snort at once seem like a cup of coffee compared to the 100 mg of Ritalin. It was 3:00 AM and I was exhausted so I swallowed it and forgot about it. About 15 minutes latter BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM M!!!!!!!!! It was like my heart was about to explode from my chest and I felt like I had just won the lottery, and my eyes were literally glued to my eye sockets. Know the feeling you had the first time you fucked a woman and she dropped her panties? The feeling of excitment and happiness is 10 X greater.
This shit is literally 10 X more powerful than Ritalin and 100 X more powerful than weight-loss stimulants like diethylpropion. It is the most fucked up shit ever and I love it!!!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Hahaha
Be careful man
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Guys, this is seriously the strongest shit you'll ever try.
Sucky,
Of course it's the strongest shit they will ever try, it's the tablet version of crystal METH.
Besides the initial euphoria you will feel from the surge of dopamine instantly released, you can also experience hypertensive crisis and find yourself in a serious mess.
Sucky, be careful, the stuff could kill you...
I'm going to speak to Ron to see if we can contact your parents, this is getting out of hand.
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Be careful gorilla man. Oh and ps . can i have some? lol
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Another meltdown. ;D I own your mind. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
That's what you've written all these times I've pwned you ;D
(https://whyweprotest.net/asset-proxy/2c00c0b826f4629d1898fa5c8c86168c8f00eb64/687474703a2f2f6f70657261746f726368616e2e6f72672f7375672f7372632f737567343034325f62757474687572742e706e67/http://operatorchan.org/sug/src/sug4042_butthurt.png)
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Sucky,
Of course it's the strongest shit they will ever try, it's the tablet version of crystal METH.
Besides the initial euphoria you will feel from the surge of dopamine instantly released, you can also experience hypertensive crisis and find yourself in a serious mess.
Sucky, be careful, the stuff could kill you...
I'm going to speak to Ron to see if we can contact your parents, this is getting out of hand.
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ROFL ;D
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how long is the high?
when does it peak?
how does it differ to coke?
have you tried training under it's influence? if so, how did that go?
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ahahaha,they're probably in the French Riviera, overseeing their multi-billion dollar operation, might be hard to get in touch with ;D ;D ;D
Sucky is a good kid. Sadly, he is misunderstood by many here, but he means no harm.
Ron and I have seen our share of deaths on this site over the years and we don't want another one.
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Sucky,
Of course it's the strongest shit they will ever try, it's the tablet version of crystal METH.
Besides the initial euphoria you will feel from the surge of dopamine instantly released, you can also experience hypertensive crisis and find yourself in a serious mess.
Sucky, be careful, the stuff could kill you...
I'm going to speak to Ron to see if we can contact your parents, this is getting out of hand.
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LOL
yo raymondo, you got a link to that thread? i enjoy a good smm meltdown from time to time.
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This is the shit all the Hollywood actors/actresses use for weight loss.
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Sucky,
Of course it's the strongest shit they will ever try, it's the tablet version of crystal METH.
Besides the initial euphoria you will feel from the surge of dopamine instantly released, you can also experience hypertensive crisis and find yourself in a serious mess.
Sucky, be careful, the stuff could kill you...
I'm going to speak to Ron to see if we can contact your parents, this is getting out of hand.
"1"
You are a queer. 'Nough said... :P
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Sucky is a good kid. Sadly, he is misunderstood by many here, but he means no harm.
Ron and I have seen our share of deaths on this site over the years and we don't want another one.
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This speaks highly of you if you're doing it for someone who doesn't seem to possess even a few redeeming qualities
Anyways, I deleted my post out of respect for your gesture
LOL
yo raymondo, you got a link to that thread? i enjoy a good smm meltdown from time to time.
here you are my man (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=410275.0)
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You are a queer. 'Nough said... :P
SUCKMYMUSCLE
This is how you repay a loving friend?
:'(
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LOL
yo raymondo, you got a link to that thread? i enjoy a good smm meltdown from time to time.
I love how I live in all of your minds. I own your minds and destroy you guys psychologically, and it is hilarious how angry you guys get and how much you thirst for revenge and stalk me across the boards. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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how long is the high?
&guy than Ritalin and much stronger. I would say the intense excitement starts at about 20 minutes after you take it and lasts for 3 maybe 4 hours, then comes a phase of another 3 to 4 hours where you are not excited anymore but feeling very, very happy and alert, and then comes the crash which is pretty bad but not as bad as cocaine. The crash lasts for about 6 hours. You return to normal about 8 to 12 hours after swallowing the pills.
when does it peak?
I would say about 2 to 3 hours latter.
how does it differ to coke?
Much more energy and excitement, but coke gives you a more "clear" high where you can enjoy music, talk and whatever you are doing more. Meth feels more energetic and excitement, but it makes you edgy and not able to focus on enjoying any given thing as much.
have you tried training under it's influence? if so, how did that go?
Nah, man. You can seriously burst a blood vessels if your train under the influence of this shit. I have taken Ritalin(orally) before going to the gym, but it makes you too talkative and happy to focus on your training. You want to talk to everyone around you and you think of a million plans you have etc...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yep. Here is my bottle of methamphetamine at 99.99% purity straight from the pharmacy. The difference between this and street meth is like night and day. Trust me: there is a huge difference between a drug made by junkies with barely a high school education in their bath tubs and drugs made by professional chemists with their fancy PhDs on fully equiped lab. This makes street meth seem like coffee in comparison.
Exactly. It is literally 10 X more powerful than Ritalin. A doctor who prescribes this for ADHD will have a team of 20 DEA agents invading his office in less than an hour to take him into custody and interrogate him exactly why alternative medications didn't work. This is why no doctor prescribes this for ADHD. The only legitimate use for it is to treat narcolepsy, a very serious condition for which this is the only drug that works.
To get a prescription for this, I had to fake narcolepsy and go to several doctors until one finally decided to prescribe it. This is probably the hardest drug to get of all. Even morphine is not as controlled.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL you faked narcolepsy, what did ou do just fall asleep during the appointments?
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LOL you faked narcolepsy, what did ou do just fall asleep during the appointments?
No, I just told them I lost jobs, my family was concerned with me, etc...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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This speaks highly of you if you're doing it for someone who doesn't seem to possess even a few redeeming qualities
Anyways, I deleted my post out of respect for your gesture
here you are my man (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=410275.0)
haha wow that thread turned out a lot better than i was expecting... i didn't bother checking in again after the first post
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No, I just told them I lost jobs, my family was concerned with me, etc...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Translation = I kept dozing off and burning myself in hot grease at my part time Burger King job as the "fry guy"
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LOL @ Ritalin.....if you`re gonna` do some fucking drugs man up dude.
I`ve done every drug imaginable in the past,and that shit will fucking take you down......nothing to brag about.
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So SMM is addicted to coke, meth and amphetamines huh?. It all makes sense now.
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Translation = I kept dozing off and burning myself in hot grease at my part time Burger King job as the "fry guy"
Ha ha ha ha ha...keep the hate coming. I own the minds of your queers so badly that you desperately try to insult me and keep stalking me across the boards and I find it hilarious. Keep stalking me as it amuses me. You guys are my bitches and I love getting you riled up. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I am starting team junkie on Getbig. If you want to be a member, just write "team junkie" for your signature.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Desoxyn = Meth
Have fun with that buddy.
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A ripped to the bone 6'5 380 pound JUNKIE who breaks German Shepards spine like a Thanksgiving day wishbone and eats only the finest prime cuts of Kangaroo meat and Boer Goat quality milk imported overnight, first class on a Lear jet and then served "breakfast in bed" style to him and his $3000 a night escorts....Only on getbig.com baybee!!!! ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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A ripped to the bone 6'5 380 pound JUNKIE who breaks German Shepards spine like a Thanksgiving day wishbone and eats only the finest prime cuts of Kangaroo meat and Boer Goat quality milk imported overnight, first class on a Lear jet and then served "breakfast in bed" style to him and his $3000 a night escorts....Only on getbig.com baybee!!!! ;D
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does it make you lose muscle?
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if jesus christ did drugs then why shouldnt we?
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It will probably cause dopamine receptors to downregulate just as with all other stimulants. After a while they are fried and you won't be able to feel pleasure anymore. I assume you are smart enough to know this and not be on that stuff 24/7.
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I love it!!!! I fucking love it!!! Just pop a few of these and elation follows and the most awesome feeling of mental clarity. It is better than coke, booze, benzos, E and all that shit....it hits you so hard, man. So fucking hard....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
only loosers need something to get a high
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Yep. Here is my bottle of methamphetamine at 99.99% purity straight from the pharmacy. The difference between this and street meth is like night and day. Trust me: there is a huge difference between a drug made by junkies with barely a high school education in their bath tubs and drugs made by professional chemists with their fancy PhDs on fully equiped lab. This makes street meth seem like coffee in comparison.
Exactly. It is literally 10 X more powerful than Ritalin. A doctor who prescribes this for ADHD will have a team of 20 DEA agents invading his office in less than an hour to take him into custody and interrogate him exactly why alternative medications didn't work. This is why no doctor prescribes this for ADHD. The only legitimate use for it is to treat narcolepsy, a very serious condition for which this is the only drug that works.
To get a prescription for this, I had to fake narcolepsy and go to several doctors until one finally decided to prescribe it. This is probably the hardest drug to get of all. Even morphine is not as controlled.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Best show ever.
THE BEEF
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I think GH15 should join me in team junkie. All he talks about is drugs, from sauce to narcotics. Also, trenbolone is the most psychologically addicting of all steroids, and I regard all tren users to be junkies who would seep into deep depression if they stopped.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I've only taken amphetamines a couple of times. I took some adderrall before going out boozing one night. I was chewing on the side of my face all night long. It was like doing high grade cocaine without all the comedowns between lines. Me and a couple friend did it we had a blast! You get into some really awesome conversations on the stuff. You feel a friendlier connection with people.
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you guys should try street name is molly real drug name is mdma its like but you dont feel like shit in the morning Just makes you feel good and makes you grow n set of balls to go up to the hottest girl in the club with out any hesitation stuff is good shit
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i love drugs
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I think GH15 should join me in team junkie. All he talks about is drugs, from sauce to narcotics. Also, trenbolone is the most psychologically addicting of all steroids, and I regard all tren users to be junkies who would seep into deep depression if they stopped.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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trenbolone at the recommended dosages is a major stimulant - how is that not psychologically addicting?
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im going to see if my doc will prescribe it. prozac and wellbutrin aint doin shit
Why don't you just steal some more money from your parents and get some coke?
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OUCH !!
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does it make you lose muscle?
From my experience with adderall (amphetamine), NOT desoxyn (methamphetamine), I'd say that it probably makes it difficult to gain muscle mass. It suppresses your appetite, increases your metabolism, and sometimes fucks with your sleep. It's an OKAY drug for fat loss.
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This is how you repay a loving friend?
:'(
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See what I mean broski? ;)
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Narcolepsy in America really isn't that rare. A lot of people that have it don't even know they have it. In Japan its pretty common. I think like every 1 in 600 people in Japan have it.
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Easy to get. The negro at the street corner sells them for a buck fitty each.
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Yep. Here is my bottle of methamphetamine at 99.99% purity straight from the pharmacy. The difference between this and street meth is like night and day. Trust me: there is a huge difference between a drug made by junkies with barely a high school education in their bath tubs and drugs made by professional chemists with their fancy PhDs on fully equiped lab. This makes street meth seem like coffee in comparison.
Exactly. It is literally 10 X more powerful than Ritalin. A doctor who prescribes this for ADHD will have a team of 20 DEA agents invading his office in less than an hour to take him into custody and interrogate him exactly why alternative medications didn't work. This is why no doctor prescribes this for ADHD. The only legitimate use for it is to treat narcolepsy, a very serious condition for which this is the only drug that works.
To get a prescription for this, I had to fake narcolepsy and go to several doctors until one finally decided to prescribe it. This is probably the hardest drug to get of all. Even morphine is not as controlled.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
hahahah omg what did you do??
fall asleep while talking to the doctor ??
true getbigger right here folks
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i love drugs
You're dutch, no need to mention that!
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outed
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Why the fuck are you coming in gloating you can get your hands on it if it's nearly impossible for me to find it you utter kunt.
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Sucky, here is the official drug info off of uptodate, which is an online bible for medical professionals like myself. Read the adverse S.E.'s. Be cautious my friend.
Methamphetamine: Drug informationCopyright 1978-2012 Lexicomp, Inc. All rights reserved.
(For additional information see "Methamphetamine: Patient drug information")
ALERT: U.S. Boxed Warning The FDA-approved labeling includes a boxed warning. See Warnings/Precautions section for a concise summary of this information. For verbatim wording of the boxed warning, consult the product labeling or www.fda.gov.
Brand Names: U.S. Desoxyn®
Brand Names: Canada Desoxyn®
Pharmacologic Category Anorexiant;Stimulant;Sympathomimetic
Dosing: Adult
ADHD: Oral: 5 mg 1-2 times/day, may increase by 5 mg increments weekly until optimum response is achieved, usually 20-25 mg/day
Exogenous obesity: Oral: 5 mg, 30 minutes before each meal; treatment duration should not exceed a few weeks
Dosing: Pediatric
ADHD: Oral: Children ≥6 years: Refer to adult dosing.
Exogenous obesity: Oral: Children ≥12 years: Refer to adult dosing.
Dosing: Geriatric Refer to adult dosing.
Dosage Forms: U.S. Excipient information presented when available (limited, particularly for generics); consult specific product labeling.
Tablet, oral, as hydrochloride: 5 mg
Desoxyn®: 5 mg
Generic Equivalent Available: U.S. Yes
Controlled Substance C-II
Medication Guide An FDA-approved patient medication guide, which is available with the product information and at http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm088582.pdf, must be dispensed with this medication.
Use Treatment of attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD); exogenous obesity (short-term adjunct)
Pharmacotherapy for weight loss is recommended only for obese patients with a body mass index ≥30 kg/m2, or ≥27 kg/m2 in the presence of other risk factors such as hypertension, diabetes, and/or dyslipidemia or a high waist circumference; therapy should be used in conjunction with a comprehensive weight management program.
Use - Unlabeled/Investigational Narcolepsy
Medication Safety Issues
Sound-alike/look-alike issues:
Desoxyn® may be confused with digoxin
BEERS Criteria medication:
This drug may be inappropriate for use in geriatric patients (high severity risk).
Adverse Reactions Significant Frequency not defined.
Cardiovascular: Hypertension, palpitation, tachycardia
Central nervous system: Dizziness, dysphoria, euphoria, exacerbation of motor and phonic tics and Tourette's syndrome, headache, insomnia, overstimulation, psychosis, restlessness
Dermatologic: Rash, urticaria
Endocrine & metabolic: Change in libido
Gastrointestinal: Anorexia, constipation, diarrhea, nausea, stomach cramps, unpleasant taste, vomiting, weight loss, xerostomia
Genitourinary: Impotence
Neuromuscular & skeletal: Tremor
Miscellaneous: Suppression of growth in children, tolerance and withdrawal with prolonged use
Contraindications Hypersensitivity to methamphetamine, any component of the formulation, or idiosyncrasy to amphetamines or other sympathomimetic amines; patients with advanced arteriosclerosis, symptomatic cardiovascular disease, moderate-to-severe hypertension, hyperthyroidism, glaucoma, agitated states; patients with a history of drug abuse; use during or within 14 days following MAO inhibitor therapy; stimulant medications are contraindicated for use in children with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorders and concomitant Tourette's syndrome or tics
Warnings/Precautions
Boxed warnings:
• Abuse potential: See “Disease-related concerns” below.
• Weight reduction: Appropriate use: See “Disease-related concerns” below.
Concerns related to adverse effects:
• Cardiovascular events: Use has been associated with serious cardiovascular events including sudden death in patients with pre-existing structural cardiac abnormalities or other serious heart problems (sudden death in children and adolescents; sudden death, stroke and MI in adults). These products should be avoided in the patients with known serious structural cardiac abnormalities, cardiomyopathy, serious heart rhythm abnormalities, or other serious cardiac problems that could increase the risk of sudden death that these conditions alone carry. Patients should be carefully evaluated for cardiac disease prior to initiation of therapy.
• CNS effects: Amphetamines may impair the ability to engage in potentially hazardous activities.
• Visual disturbance: Difficulty in accommodation and blurred vision has been reported with the use of stimulants.
Disease-related concerns:
• Abuse potential: [U.S. Boxed Warning]: Potential for drug dependency exists; prolonged use may lead to drug dependency. Use is contraindicated in patients with history of ethanol or drug abuse. Prescriptions should be written for the smallest quantity consistent with good patient care to minimize possibility of overdose.
• Diabetes: Use with caution in patients with diabetes mellitus; antidiabetic agent requirements may be altered with anorexigens and concomitant dietary restrictions.
• Hypertension: Use with caution in patients with hypertension and other cardiovascular conditions that might be exacerbated by increases in blood pressure or heart rate. Use is contraindicated in patients with moderate-to-severe hypertension.
• Psychiatric disorders: Use with caution in patients with pre-existing psychosis or bipolar disorder (may induce mixed/manic episode). May exacerbate symptoms of behavior and thought disorder in psychotic patients; new onset psychosis or mania may occur with stimulant use; observe for symptoms of aggression and/or hostility.
• Seizure disorder: Use with caution in patients with a history of seizure disorder; may lower seizure threshold leading to new onset or breakthrough seizure activity.
• Tourette's syndrome: Use with caution in patients with Tourette's syndrome; stimulants may unmask tics.
• Weight reduction: Appropriate use: [U.S. Boxed Warning]: Use in weight reduction programs only when alternative therapy has been ineffective.
Special populations:
• Elderly: May be inappropriate in this age group due to the risk for causing dependence, hypertension, angina, and myocardial infarction (Beers Criteria).
• Pediatrics: Safety and efficacy have not been established in children <12 years of age for obesity. Use of stimulants has been associated with suppression of growth; monitor growth rate during treatment.
Other warnings/precautions:
• Discontinuation of therapy: Abrupt discontinuation following high doses or for prolonged periods may result in symptoms for withdrawal. Discontinue if satisfactory weight loss has not occurred within the first 4 weeks of treatment, or if tolerance develops.
Metabolism/Transport Effects Substrate of CYP2D6 (major)
Drug Interactions
(For additional information: Launch Lexi-Interact™ Drug Interactions Program )Abiraterone Acetate: May increase the serum concentration of CYP2D6 Substrates. Management: Avoid concurrent use of abiraterone with CYP2D6 substrates that have a narrow therapeutic index whenever possible. When concurrent use is not avoidable, monitor patients closely for signs/symptoms of toxicity. Risk D: Consider therapy modification
Alkalinizing Agents: May decrease the excretion of Amphetamines. Risk D: Consider therapy modification
Ammonium Chloride: May decrease the serum concentration of Amphetamines. This effect is likely due to an enhanced excretion of amphetamines in the urine. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Analgesics (Opioid): Amphetamines may enhance the analgesic effect of Analgesics (Opioid). Risk C: Monitor therapy
Antacids: May decrease the excretion of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Antihistamines: Amphetamines may diminish the sedative effect of Antihistamines. Exceptions: Levocabastine (Nasal). Risk C: Monitor therapy
Antipsychotics: May diminish the stimulatory effect of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Atomoxetine: May enhance the hypertensive effect of Sympathomimetics. Atomoxetine may enhance the tachycardic effect of Sympathomimetics. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Cannabinoids: May enhance the tachycardic effect of Sympathomimetics. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Carbonic Anhydrase Inhibitors: May decrease the excretion of Amphetamines. Exceptions: Brinzolamide; Dorzolamide. Risk C: Monitor therapy
CYP2D6 Inhibitors (Moderate): May decrease the metabolism of CYP2D6 Substrates. Risk C: Monitor therapy
CYP2D6 Inhibitors (Strong): May decrease the metabolism of CYP2D6 Substrates. Risk D: Consider therapy modification
Darunavir: May increase the serum concentration of CYP2D6 Substrates. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Ethosuximide: Amphetamines may diminish the therapeutic effect of Ethosuximide. Amphetamines may decrease the serum concentration of Ethosuximide. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Gastrointestinal Acidifying Agents: May decrease the serum concentration of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Iobenguane I 123: Sympathomimetics may diminish the therapeutic effect of Iobenguane I 123. Risk X: Avoid combination
Lithium: May diminish the stimulatory effect of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
MAO Inhibitors: May enhance the hypertensive effect of Amphetamines. Risk X: Avoid combination
Methenamine: May decrease the serum concentration of Amphetamines. This effect is likely due to an enhanced excretion of amphetamines in the urine. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Peginterferon Alfa-2b: May decrease the serum concentration of CYP2D6 Substrates. Risk C: Monitor therapy
PHENobarbital: Amphetamines may decrease the serum concentration of PHENobarbital. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Phenytoin: Amphetamines may decrease the serum concentration of Phenytoin. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Proton Pump Inhibitors: May increase the serum concentration of Amphetamines. Specifically, data indicate that Proton Pump Inhibitors may increase the rate at which Amphetamines are absorbed. Total exposure to Amphetamines is not significantly changed. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Sympathomimetics: May enhance the adverse/toxic effect of other Sympathomimetics. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Tricyclic Antidepressants: May enhance the stimulatory effect of Amphetamines. Tricyclic Antidepressants may also potentiate the cardiovascular effects of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Ethanol/Nutrition/Herb Interactions
Ethanol: Avoid ethanol (may cause CNS depression).
Food: Amphetamine serum levels may be altered if taken with acidic food, juices, or vitamin C. Avoid caffeine.
Herb/Nutraceutical: Avoid ephedra (may cause hypertension or arrhythmias).
Pregnancy Risk Factor C (show table)
Pregnancy Implications Teratogenic and embryocidal effects have been observed in animal studies. Infants may deliver prematurely and suffer withdrawal symptoms. There are no adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women.
Lactation Enters breast milk/contraindicated
Dietary Considerations Most effective when combined with a low calorie diet and behavior modification counseling.
Pricing: U.S. (www.drugstore.com)
Tablets (Desoxyn)
5 mg (20): $107.99
Monitoring Parameters Heart rate, respiratory rate, blood pressure, CNS activity, body weight (BMI); growth rate in children
When used for the treatment of ADHD, thoroughly evaluate for cardiovascular risk. Monitor heart rate, blood pressure, and consider obtaining ECG prior to initiation (Vetter, 2008).
Reference Range
Adult classification of weight by BMI (kg/m2):
Underweight: <18.5
Normal: 18.5-24.9
Overweight: 25-29.9
Obese, class I: 30-34.9
Obese, class II: 35-39.9
Extreme obesity (class III): ≥40
Waist circumference: In adults with a BMI of 25-34.9 kg/m2, high-risk waist circumference is defined as:
Men >102 cm (>40 in)
Women >88 cm (>35 in)
International Brand Names Cidrin (CL);Desoxyn (CA)
Mechanism of Action A sympathomimetic amine related to ephedrine and amphetamine with CNS stimulant activity; causes release of catecholamines (primarily dopamine and other catecholamines) from their storage sites in the presynaptic nerve terminals. Inhibits reuptake and metabolism of catecholamines through inhibition of monoamine transporters and oxidase.
Pharmacodynamics/Kinetics
Absorption: Rapid from GI tract
Metabolism: Hepatic; forms metabolite
Half-life elimination: 4-5 hours
Excretion: Urine primarily (dependent on urine pH)
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REFERENCES
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Sucky, here is the official drug info off of uptodate, which is an online bible for medical professionals like myself. Read the adverse S.E.'s. Be cautious my friend.
Methamphetamine: Drug informationCopyright 1978-2012 Lexicomp, Inc. All rights reserved.
(For additional information see "Methamphetamine: Patient drug information")
ALERT: U.S. Boxed Warning The FDA-approved labeling includes a boxed warning. See Warnings/Precautions section for a concise summary of this information. For verbatim wording of the boxed warning, consult the product labeling or www.fda.gov.
Brand Names: U.S. Desoxyn®
Brand Names: Canada Desoxyn®
Pharmacologic Category Anorexiant;Stimulant;Sympathomimetic
Dosing: Adult
ADHD: Oral: 5 mg 1-2 times/day, may increase by 5 mg increments weekly until optimum response is achieved, usually 20-25 mg/day
Exogenous obesity: Oral: 5 mg, 30 minutes before each meal; treatment duration should not exceed a few weeks
Dosing: Pediatric
ADHD: Oral: Children ≥6 years: Refer to adult dosing.
Exogenous obesity: Oral: Children ≥12 years: Refer to adult dosing.
Dosing: Geriatric Refer to adult dosing.
Dosage Forms: U.S. Excipient information presented when available (limited, particularly for generics); consult specific product labeling.
Tablet, oral, as hydrochloride: 5 mg
Desoxyn®: 5 mg
Generic Equivalent Available: U.S. Yes
Controlled Substance C-II
Medication Guide An FDA-approved patient medication guide, which is available with the product information and at http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm088582.pdf, must be dispensed with this medication.
Use Treatment of attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD); exogenous obesity (short-term adjunct)
Pharmacotherapy for weight loss is recommended only for obese patients with a body mass index ≥30 kg/m2, or ≥27 kg/m2 in the presence of other risk factors such as hypertension, diabetes, and/or dyslipidemia or a high waist circumference; therapy should be used in conjunction with a comprehensive weight management program.
Use - Unlabeled/Investigational Narcolepsy
Medication Safety Issues
Sound-alike/look-alike issues:
Desoxyn® may be confused with digoxin
BEERS Criteria medication:
This drug may be inappropriate for use in geriatric patients (high severity risk).
Adverse Reactions Significant Frequency not defined.
Cardiovascular: Hypertension, palpitation, tachycardia
Central nervous system: Dizziness, dysphoria, euphoria, exacerbation of motor and phonic tics and Tourette's syndrome, headache, insomnia, overstimulation, psychosis, restlessness
Dermatologic: Rash, urticaria
Endocrine & metabolic: Change in libido
Gastrointestinal: Anorexia, constipation, diarrhea, nausea, stomach cramps, unpleasant taste, vomiting, weight loss, xerostomia
Genitourinary: Impotence
Neuromuscular & skeletal: Tremor
Miscellaneous: Suppression of growth in children, tolerance and withdrawal with prolonged use
Contraindications Hypersensitivity to methamphetamine, any component of the formulation, or idiosyncrasy to amphetamines or other sympathomimetic amines; patients with advanced arteriosclerosis, symptomatic cardiovascular disease, moderate-to-severe hypertension, hyperthyroidism, glaucoma, agitated states; patients with a history of drug abuse; use during or within 14 days following MAO inhibitor therapy; stimulant medications are contraindicated for use in children with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorders and concomitant Tourette's syndrome or tics
Warnings/Precautions
Boxed warnings:
• Abuse potential: See “Disease-related concerns” below.
• Weight reduction: Appropriate use: See “Disease-related concerns” below.
Concerns related to adverse effects:
• Cardiovascular events: Use has been associated with serious cardiovascular events including sudden death in patients with pre-existing structural cardiac abnormalities or other serious heart problems (sudden death in children and adolescents; sudden death, stroke and MI in adults). These products should be avoided in the patients with known serious structural cardiac abnormalities, cardiomyopathy, serious heart rhythm abnormalities, or other serious cardiac problems that could increase the risk of sudden death that these conditions alone carry. Patients should be carefully evaluated for cardiac disease prior to initiation of therapy.
• CNS effects: Amphetamines may impair the ability to engage in potentially hazardous activities.
• Visual disturbance: Difficulty in accommodation and blurred vision has been reported with the use of stimulants.
Disease-related concerns:
• Abuse potential: [U.S. Boxed Warning]: Potential for drug dependency exists; prolonged use may lead to drug dependency. Use is contraindicated in patients with history of ethanol or drug abuse. Prescriptions should be written for the smallest quantity consistent with good patient care to minimize possibility of overdose.
• Diabetes: Use with caution in patients with diabetes mellitus; antidiabetic agent requirements may be altered with anorexigens and concomitant dietary restrictions.
• Hypertension: Use with caution in patients with hypertension and other cardiovascular conditions that might be exacerbated by increases in blood pressure or heart rate. Use is contraindicated in patients with moderate-to-severe hypertension.
• Psychiatric disorders: Use with caution in patients with pre-existing psychosis or bipolar disorder (may induce mixed/manic episode). May exacerbate symptoms of behavior and thought disorder in psychotic patients; new onset psychosis or mania may occur with stimulant use; observe for symptoms of aggression and/or hostility.
• Seizure disorder: Use with caution in patients with a history of seizure disorder; may lower seizure threshold leading to new onset or breakthrough seizure activity.
• Tourette's syndrome: Use with caution in patients with Tourette's syndrome; stimulants may unmask tics.
• Weight reduction: Appropriate use: [U.S. Boxed Warning]: Use in weight reduction programs only when alternative therapy has been ineffective.
Special populations:
• Elderly: May be inappropriate in this age group due to the risk for causing dependence, hypertension, angina, and myocardial infarction (Beers Criteria).
• Pediatrics: Safety and efficacy have not been established in children <12 years of age for obesity. Use of stimulants has been associated with suppression of growth; monitor growth rate during treatment.
Other warnings/precautions:
• Discontinuation of therapy: Abrupt discontinuation following high doses or for prolonged periods may result in symptoms for withdrawal. Discontinue if satisfactory weight loss has not occurred within the first 4 weeks of treatment, or if tolerance develops.
Metabolism/Transport Effects Substrate of CYP2D6 (major)
Drug Interactions
(For additional information: Launch Lexi-Interact™ Drug Interactions Program )Abiraterone Acetate: May increase the serum concentration of CYP2D6 Substrates. Management: Avoid concurrent use of abiraterone with CYP2D6 substrates that have a narrow therapeutic index whenever possible. When concurrent use is not avoidable, monitor patients closely for signs/symptoms of toxicity. Risk D: Consider therapy modification
Alkalinizing Agents: May decrease the excretion of Amphetamines. Risk D: Consider therapy modification
Ammonium Chloride: May decrease the serum concentration of Amphetamines. This effect is likely due to an enhanced excretion of amphetamines in the urine. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Analgesics (Opioid): Amphetamines may enhance the analgesic effect of Analgesics (Opioid). Risk C: Monitor therapy
Antacids: May decrease the excretion of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Antihistamines: Amphetamines may diminish the sedative effect of Antihistamines. Exceptions: Levocabastine (Nasal). Risk C: Monitor therapy
Antipsychotics: May diminish the stimulatory effect of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Atomoxetine: May enhance the hypertensive effect of Sympathomimetics. Atomoxetine may enhance the tachycardic effect of Sympathomimetics. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Cannabinoids: May enhance the tachycardic effect of Sympathomimetics. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Carbonic Anhydrase Inhibitors: May decrease the excretion of Amphetamines. Exceptions: Brinzolamide; Dorzolamide. Risk C: Monitor therapy
CYP2D6 Inhibitors (Moderate): May decrease the metabolism of CYP2D6 Substrates. Risk C: Monitor therapy
CYP2D6 Inhibitors (Strong): May decrease the metabolism of CYP2D6 Substrates. Risk D: Consider therapy modification
Darunavir: May increase the serum concentration of CYP2D6 Substrates. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Ethosuximide: Amphetamines may diminish the therapeutic effect of Ethosuximide. Amphetamines may decrease the serum concentration of Ethosuximide. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Gastrointestinal Acidifying Agents: May decrease the serum concentration of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Iobenguane I 123: Sympathomimetics may diminish the therapeutic effect of Iobenguane I 123. Risk X: Avoid combination
Lithium: May diminish the stimulatory effect of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
MAO Inhibitors: May enhance the hypertensive effect of Amphetamines. Risk X: Avoid combination
Methenamine: May decrease the serum concentration of Amphetamines. This effect is likely due to an enhanced excretion of amphetamines in the urine. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Peginterferon Alfa-2b: May decrease the serum concentration of CYP2D6 Substrates. Risk C: Monitor therapy
PHENobarbital: Amphetamines may decrease the serum concentration of PHENobarbital. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Phenytoin: Amphetamines may decrease the serum concentration of Phenytoin. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Proton Pump Inhibitors: May increase the serum concentration of Amphetamines. Specifically, data indicate that Proton Pump Inhibitors may increase the rate at which Amphetamines are absorbed. Total exposure to Amphetamines is not significantly changed. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Sympathomimetics: May enhance the adverse/toxic effect of other Sympathomimetics. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Tricyclic Antidepressants: May enhance the stimulatory effect of Amphetamines. Tricyclic Antidepressants may also potentiate the cardiovascular effects of Amphetamines. Risk C: Monitor therapy
Ethanol/Nutrition/Herb Interactions
Ethanol: Avoid ethanol (may cause CNS depression).
Food: Amphetamine serum levels may be altered if taken with acidic food, juices, or vitamin C. Avoid caffeine.
Herb/Nutraceutical: Avoid ephedra (may cause hypertension or arrhythmias).
Pregnancy Risk Factor C (show table)
Pregnancy Implications Teratogenic and embryocidal effects have been observed in animal studies. Infants may deliver prematurely and suffer withdrawal symptoms. There are no adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women.
Lactation Enters breast milk/contraindicated
Dietary Considerations Most effective when combined with a low calorie diet and behavior modification counseling.
Pricing: U.S. (www.drugstore.com)
Tablets (Desoxyn)
5 mg (20): $107.99
Monitoring Parameters Heart rate, respiratory rate, blood pressure, CNS activity, body weight (BMI); growth rate in children
When used for the treatment of ADHD, thoroughly evaluate for cardiovascular risk. Monitor heart rate, blood pressure, and consider obtaining ECG prior to initiation (Vetter, 2008).
Reference Range
Adult classification of weight by BMI (kg/m2):
Underweight: <18.5
Normal: 18.5-24.9
Overweight: 25-29.9
Obese, class I: 30-34.9
Obese, class II: 35-39.9
Extreme obesity (class III): ≥40
Waist circumference: In adults with a BMI of 25-34.9 kg/m2, high-risk waist circumference is defined as:
Men >102 cm (>40 in)
Women >88 cm (>35 in)
International Brand Names Cidrin (CL);Desoxyn (CA)
Mechanism of Action A sympathomimetic amine related to ephedrine and amphetamine with CNS stimulant activity; causes release of catecholamines (primarily dopamine and other catecholamines) from their storage sites in the presynaptic nerve terminals. Inhibits reuptake and metabolism of catecholamines through inhibition of monoamine transporters and oxidase.
Pharmacodynamics/Kinetics
Absorption: Rapid from GI tract
Metabolism: Hepatic; forms metabolite
Half-life elimination: 4-5 hours
Excretion: Urine primarily (dependent on urine pH)
Use of UpToDate is subject to the Subscription and License Agreement.
REFERENCES
Dorian is better than Ronnie!!!! ;D
Where have you been, dude?
Anyways, thanks for the warning. I am fully aware of how dangerous methamphetamine is. I only take sporadically when I am really, really tired and how something important to do. It is too dangerously addictive to use to get high on a daily basis. I prefer Dexedrine or snorting Ritalin for that. Also, methamphetamine is a neurotoxin and you can get some serious brain damage if you use it every day - especially if you take it without powerful antioxidants that can corr the blood-brain barrier such as vitamin E and alpha-lipoic acid.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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LMAO @ "rocket launcher team" on acid...
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Anyways, thanks for the warning. I am fully aware of how dangerous methamphetamine is. I only take sporadically when I am really, really tired and how something important to do. It is too dangerously addictive to use to get high on a daily basis. I prefer Dexedrine or snorting Ritalin for that. Also, methamphetamine is a neurotoxin and you can get some serious brain damage if you use it every day - especially if you take it without powerful antioxidants that can corr the blood-brain barrier such as vitamin E and alpha-lipoic acid.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Hmmmph...
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If it's one thing I've learned from 12+ years on the internet, it's that the more trolls brag about themselves, the more shit they've got to hide.
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im going to see if my doc will prescribe it. prozac and wellbutrin aint doin shit
i wouldnt if i were you. for one its been shown to be more neurotoxic then any other form of amphetamine while amphetamines (d,l amps) are probably neurotoxic although the jury is still out.
Its methamphetamine. Try dextroamphetamine or adderall which has d-amp, levo and amphetamine in it. These are better options for daily use. Also, lisdexamphetamine is nice but i find that it doesnt have enough kick.
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I'm not prone to coarse hyperbole...but this shit WILL fuck your life up....BADLY...and it will happen faster than you think.
bingo.
i was getting this stuff for (supposedly) ADHD as an adult. I must have some sort of disorder as it knocked me out like a sledgehammer. could barely walk let alone stay awake.
apparently normal people love it cos it is meth pharm grade. But i didnt have a problem selling my unused bottles when i was done with it- to guys who wait at the dispensary before it opens once a week for their new found addiction that started as a "party buzz"...
it WILL fuck u up. and you wont even know it (at first), or see it coming.
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Dorian is better than Ronnie!!!! ;D
Where have you been, dude?
Anyways, thanks for the warning. I am fully aware of how dangerous methamphetamine is. I only take sporadically when I am really, really tired and how something important to do. It is too dangerously addictive to use to get high on a daily basis. I prefer Dexedrine or snorting Ritalin for that. Also, methamphetamine is a neurotoxin and you can get some serious brain damage if you use it every day - especially if you take it without powerful antioxidants that can corr the blood-brain barrier such as vitamin E and alpha-lipoic acid.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
didnt see this post but what he said.
So you have meth now? you dont need stims?
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only loosers need something to get a high
jonny cash used drugs, guy was a boss homo.
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everyone needs something to get his high from, wheter its fishing or using drugs.
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Sucky, what up my brother. Lol...you know I love Dorian. I just like the freaky size of Ronnie....but I digress. Just be careful and don't mix with other...ahem....party favors. Take care all GetBigger's. BTW...Sucky, who do you like in a rematch of Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen. Inquiring minds want to know.
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Western medicine ::)
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Sucky, what up my brother. Lol...you know I love Dorian. I just like the freaky size of Ronnie....but I digress. Just be careful and don't mix with other...ahem....party favors. Take care all GetBigger's. BTW...Sucky, who do you like in a rematch of Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen. Inquiring minds want to know.
Curiously, I made a post exactly about this in the MMA board: :D
"Let's see how great Sonnen truly is without massive doses of androgens making him tougher and meaner. I didn't think his performance against Stann was that convincing and Stann is pretty one-dimensional and can't bust a grape.
Something tells me that Silva vs Sonnen II will be a slaying. I think Silva will shock the World by putting a beating on Sonnen. This time Silva will not have to fight with a fissured rib, and Sonnen won't have extra testosterone making him more of a man than he truly is. I doubt that without steroids he will just walk through Silva's devastating Muay Thai kicks and knees snd elbows and take him down over and over again. He will take Silva down a couple times, but that's it. By the second or third round, Silva will KO/TKO him."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Sucky,
Good to be back bro. Your enlightened posts always keep the board fresh. I will check the MMA board. Peace guys. Arnold Classic coming up. Looking forward to it.
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It is amazing the difference between drugs made by professional chemists in sophisticated laboratories and drugs made by trailer park trash in bath tubs.
Desoxyn is so much stronger and better than street meth that there truly is no comparison. I had tried street meth before and it feels like coffee compared to Desoxyn. Not only is it much stronger, but you don't get the brutal hangovers that street meth gives you.
Most of what passes for meth on the street is a tiny amount of meth with ephedrine, iodoephedrine, chloroephedrine, methylephedrine pseudo-methamphetamine, phosphorus and iodine as contaminants.
Street drug manufacturers make meth by reducing ephedrine with red phosphorus and iodine, but since they have no idea what they are doing and have no proper materials to purify the drug, they end up with tiny amounts of low quality meth mixed with the above mentioned chemicals. These contaminants are highly toxic and must be cleared from the body, and that gives you brutal headaches a few hours after taking the drug.
Professional chemists make meth by reductively alkylating phenylpropanone and methylamine with metal catalysts under pressure, and this gives extremely high quality meth. And because they have tons of million Dollar equipments, they can purify the drug completely.
Desoxyn is USP grade meaning meth at 99.99% purity. Think of how insane it is meth to be at 99.99% purity. The "best" street meth is 50% low quality meth - made from ephedrine - with the other 50% being contaminants. Not only is it much stronger than street meth, but no headaches and muscle aches after the drug wears off - red phosphorus, a contaminant in street meth, is highly toxic to muscle cells.
The first time I took Desoxyn, 15 minutes latter my heart seemed like it was going to explode from my chest and my eyes were glued to my eye sockets. Imagine the difference between snorting coke and a cup of coffee and meth is as far stronger than coke as coke is from coffee. I can tell you from personal experience. This drug was the most radical experience in my life.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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It is amazing the difference between drugs made by professional chemists in sophisticated laboratories and drugs made by trailer park trash in bath tubs.
Desoxyn is so much stronger and better than street meth that there truly is no comparison. I had tried street meth before and it feels like coffee compared to Desoxyn. Not only is it much stronger, but you don't get the brutal hangovers that street meth gives you.
Most of what passes for meth on the street is a tiny amount of meth with ephedrine, iodoephedrine, chloroephedrine, methylephedrine pseudo-methamphetamine, phosphorus and iodine as contaminants.
Street drug manufacturers make meth by reducing ephedrine with red phosphorus and iodine, but since they have no idea what they are doing and have no proper materials to purify the drug, they end up with tiny amounts of low quality meth mixed with the above mentioned chemicals. These contaminants are highly toxic and must be cleared from the body, and that gives you brutal headaches a few hours after taking the drug.
Professional chemists make meth by reductively alkylating phenylpropanone and methylamine, and this gives extremely high quality meth. And because they have tons of million Dollar equipments, they can purify the drug completely.
Desoxyn is USP grade meaning meth at 99.99% purity. Think of how insane it is meth to be at 99.99% purity. The "best" street meth is 50% low quality meth - made form ephedrine - with the other 50% being contaminants. Not only is it much stronger than street meth, but no headaches and muscle aches after the drug wears off - red phosphorus, a contaminant in street meth, is highly toxic to muscle cells.
The first time I took Desoxyn, 15 minutes latter my heart seemed like it was going to explode from my chest and my eyes were glued to my eye sockets. Imagine the difference between snorting coke and a cup of coffee and meth is as far stronger than coke as coke is from coffee. I can tell you from personal experience. This drug was the most radical experience in my life.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
To meth heads cook this stuff up and shoot it like how heroin junkies cook up roxies and oxies?
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The most spaced out I've ever felt was on Ephedrine and Diazepam whilst pissed up, mad vibes.
What doses for the ephedrine and diazepam? I got both and would love to test your theory man.
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To meth heads cook this stuff up and shoot it like how heroin junkies cook up roxies and oxies?
yeah bro, just like coke fiends can inject the drug also.
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I love it!!!! I fucking love it!!! Just pop a few of these and elation follows and the most awesome feeling of mental clarity. It is better than coke, booze, benzos, E and all that shit....it hits you so hard, man. So fucking hard....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
MDMA is wayyyy better. hth
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Curiously, I made a post exactly about this in the MMA board: :D
"Let's see how great Sonnen truly is without massive doses of androgens making him tougher and meaner. I didn't think his performance against Stann was that convincing and Stann is pretty one-dimensional and can't bust a grape.
Something tells me that Silva vs Sonnen II will be a slaying. I think Silva will shock the World by putting a beating on Sonnen. This time Silva will not have to fight with a fissured rib, and Sonnen won't have extra testosterone making him more of a man than he truly is. I doubt that without steroids he will just walk through Silva's devastating Muay Thai kicks and knees snd elbows and take him down over and over again. He will take Silva down a couple times, but that's it. By the second or third round, Silva will KO/TKO him."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
For once, I agree with you.
I've been saying this a long time, Silva is the best fighter at the present moment.
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MDMA is wayyyy better. hth
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Sucky, here is the official drug info off of uptodate, which is an online bible for medical professionals like myself. Read the adverse S.E.'s. Be cautious my friend.
Hey, Dr Dutch is the only REAL medical professional on getbig you know... >:(
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Hey, Dr Dutch is the only REAL medical professional on getbig you know... >:(
Nicorulez is a nephrologist...
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Hey, Dr Dutch is the only REAL medical professional on getbig you know... >:(
*Haruummph* Physician, not Doctor. ;D
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Nicorulez is a nephrologist....Ether is a surgeon, forgot his speciality...FreakfestMD is an orthopedic surgeon.
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Ok ok but I don't mean members that post once a season.... :D
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So just to be clear on this, SMM is a meth head and admits it.......explains everything. Maybe I should start thread on how great my "Triple Grande Iced Skinny Vanilla Latte" is for waking up in the morning ::)
P.S. Never start threads when on meth, it exposes you for who you really are....(see thread starter)
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So just to be clear on this, SMM is a meth head and admits it.......explains everything. Maybe I should start thread on how great my "Triple Grande Iced Skinny Vanilla Latte" is for waking up in the morning
P.S. Never start threads when on meth, it exposes you for who you really are....(see thread starter)
"Coach", your stupidity is so gargantuan that the International Institute of Weights and Measurements should create a new cosmic measurement to measure the diameter of superclusters called "the Coach". You seriously are one dumb motherfuckker.
And conservative religious nutters like yourself are usually the ones with the worst vices, such as ephebophilia sado-masoquistic fetiches.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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"Coach", your stupidity is so gargantuan that the International Institute of Weights and Measurements should create a new cosmic measurement to measure the diameter of superclusters called "the Coach". You seriously are one dumb motherfuckker.
And conservative religious nutters like yourself are usually the ones with the worst vices, such as ephebophilia sado-masoquistic fetiches.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL...refer to the title and starter of this thread.
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LOL...refer to the title and starter of this thread.
To be fair, a doctor prescibed it for him. Drugs have their purposes and you only live once. Someone who uses a drug as a release and can control themself is a huge leap from a junkie who needs it to function everyday. You need your steroids to train, what's that make you? I like you Coach, jus sayin. Oh yeah, no homo
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I think GH15 should join me in team junkie. All he talks about is drugs, from sauce to narcotics. Also, trenbolone is the most psychologically addicting of all steroids, and I regard all tren users to be junkies who would seep into deep depression if they stopped.
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holy fuck you are stupid.
oh, and have fun in rehab.
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Has anyone seen Walter White?
"Breaking Bad...."
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Has anyone seen Walter White?
"Breaking Bad...."
WALTER WHITE IS MY CHEF! MAKES THE BEST GEAR EVER. THE OIL COMES OUT LOOKING BLUE. THE POWDER IS ALL 99% PURITY AND HE USES ETHYL OLEATE AND ARACHIS OIL . NOBODY MAKES BETTER GEAR THAN WALTER WHITE! THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE PHARMA METH. THEY USED TO MAKE PHARMA MDMA IN THE STATES WICH WAS INSANE STUFF. THEY STILL ARE ABLE TO HAVE PURE MDMA IN POWDER IN AMTERDAM BUT NOTHING PRESSED. BUT USUALLY THE BEST ECSTASYY IS 200MG MADE WITH 99-100% PURE METHYLENE DIOXY METH AMPHATAMINE WICH STANDS FOR MDMA. i DONT KNOW IF I WOULD PUT THAT UP AGAINST PHARMA GRADE ECSTASY...,
BUT I BET IT IS A GREAT PRODUCT AND WORTH AS MUCH AS GOLD. OXYCONTIN IS TWICE AS STRONG AS MORIPHINE. AND FENTNYL IS 100 TIMES STRONGER DRUGS LIKE ACTIQ FENTNYL LOLLIPOPS ARE PRETTY POTENT ESPECIALLY IF YOU CRUCH THEM INTO POWDER AND INJECT IT. THEY EVEN HAVE CHINA WHITE WICH IS HEROIN AND PRETTY MUCH PURE FENTNYL POWDER! iT MAKES A VERY STRONG PRODUCT. PURE HEROIN MIXED WITH A LITTLE PURE FENTNYL WILL PUT YOU ON A CLOUD. OR INJECTABLE DILAUDED IS ALSO VERY POTENT. OXYFAST IS GRWEAT STUFF BUT i THINK DISSCONTINUED OR JUST USED IN HOSPITAL LIKE THE OC-160'S i HAVE BEEN ON ALL OF THEM STATE ON 20'S BUMPED UP TO 40'S TO 60'S AND THEN TO 80'S USING ROXICODONE AS A BREAKTHROUGH PAIN MED PLUS i USE HEAVY BENZOS. XANAX IS A MIRACLE DRUG TO ME! NOT EVERYBOODY LIKE IT BUT THAT IS USUALLY THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT NEED IT. THEY FUCK IT UP FOR EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS ON ALL MY SCRIPTS. YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE THE TAGS ON THE BACK. NICE SCORE THOUGH! MY MEDS. i WENT BACK AND GOT 180 oc 40'S INSTEAD OF 90 80'S BECAUSE THE 40'S WERE THE ORIGINAL TABS NOT THE NEW ONES THAT ARE SHIT.i WOULD TAKE THAT DESOXYN PRODUCT OVER ANY CRYSTAL METH! JUST LIKE i WOULD USE OXYCONTIN OVER ANY HEROIN UNLESS ITS REAL CHINA WHITE FENTNYL CUTT. SUCKYMYMUSCLE WHAT US THE HIGHEST DOSE MADE OF THE DESOXYN? AND IS IT AVIAVLE IN THE USA? I AM NOT SURE WHERE U ARE FROM.ITS HARD TO BELIEVE IT BEATS REAL PHARMACEUTICAL ECSTASY. BUT I HAVE NOT TRIED DESOXYN. TRIED PLENTY OF ECSTASY WHEN I VISIT AMSTERDAM AND ALKSO HAVE USED IT IN THE STATES BUT IT USUALLY ALL STARTS OUT IN AMSTERDAM. GREEN FORMULA 1'S AND FORMULA 9'S ARE THE BEST I EVER HAD. F1'S AND F9'S THOSE HAD THE IZOD ALIGATOR ON THEM. THE FORMULA 1'S JUST SAID F1. ALSO THE CHANELS AND FERRARIS THE HORSE NOT THE CAR WERE VERY POTENT EASILY 200MG DOSED THE F1'S AND F9'S HAD MESCALINE IN THEM AS WELL AS 200MG MDMA VERY POTENT THOSE PEOPLE COULD GET 30$ FOR THEM I GOT THEM FOR 6$ IN BULK THAT WAS A HIGH PRICE 6K FOR A BOAT BUT WHEN YOU TAKE ONE YOU KNOW THE MONEY IS WELL SPENT AS PEOOPLE WILL BEG TO PAY 30$ A TAB FOR F1'S AND F9'S BUT THOSE ARE A MEMORY NOBODY WILL EVER SEE THOSE AGAIN. OXYCONTIN IS EVEN MORE RIDICUOUS A 80MG REAL OXYCONTIN OLD FORMULA TAB GOES FOR 250$ IN MAINE. THE COPS THERE VALUE 100 OLD REAL FORMULA 80'S ARE CONSIDERED A 25,000 SEIZURE. JUST CRAZY BUT THEY SERIOUSLY ARE 13$ AT THE PHARMACY PER TAB WITH NO INSURANCE. MY INSURANCE PAID FOR VERY PENNY FOR THE 1ST YEAR THE WENT TO 50% SO i HAD TO PAY HALF THE BLUE 30'S i GET FOR CHEAP THOUGH 60 CENTS A TAB. 100 RUNS 62$ THE 425 i GET i PAY 259$ FOR. THE XANAX IS A CO-PAY OF JUST 15$ AND i GET A SHITLOAD!
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why are your "prescriptions" in bottles of the manufacturer? I have had schedule 2 drugs before and they were always put in the dispensable pill bottles.
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holy fuck you are stupid.
oh, and have fun in rehab.
"Tren is addictive, I rather stay with Meth-Amphetamine".... ::) ::) ::)
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"Tren is addictive, I rather stay with Meth-Amphetamine"....
How are the two drugs even comparable, idiot? One is an euphoriant/stimulant, whilst the other is for building muscles. Sure, trenbolone is not as addictive as meth, but it also doesen't get you high either. You talk as if they serve the same purpose and that tren is better. You are unbelievably stupid.
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How are the two drugs even comparable, idiot? One is an euphoriant/stimulant, whilst the other is for building muscles. Sure, trenbolone is not as addictive as meth, but it also doesen't get you high either. You talked as if they suerved the same purpose and that tren is better. You are unbelievably stupid.
SUCMYMUSCLE
::) ::) ::) ::)
You didn't get it, again.
BTW, I'm having raw goat milk, organic kangaroo meat sandwiches now ed, i already gained 20lbs of muscle.
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You didn't get it, again.
BTW, I'm having raw goat milk, organic kangaroo meat sandwiches now ed, i already gained 20lbs of muscle.
There is nothing to get. You gave a stupid example comparing apples and oranges and I exposed you for it.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Oh man....ha ha ha ha...
we need a knee-slapping smiley.
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why are your "prescriptions" in bottles of the manufacturer? I have had schedule 2 drugs before and they were always put in the dispensable pill bottles.
Because I get more than 100 tabs and they will give you the stock bottle if you ask but you have to be getting more than what is in the stock bottle like how I said I get 425 roxi 30's they give me 4 stock bottles and 25 ina amber bottle same with the oxys 2 sealed bottles and 40 in a amber bottle. you have to ask otherwise they will just put them all in amber bottles also depends on the pharmacist. some wont give the stock bottle out but most will.
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The difference between Desoxyn and street meth is like that between flying a supersonic jet and riding a donkey...
Most of those meth addicts have never taken meth in their life. They take a mixture of ephedrine, methylephedrine, chloroephedrine, pseudoephedrine, iodoephedrine and red Phosphorus with extremely small amounts of low quality meth(around 2%) and think they are taking meth. What they are actually getting is an ephedrine and red Phosphorus buzz and mistaking that for a high.
Street meth is made by protonating ephedrine with red Phosphorus and iodine. This yields low quality meth and because the street "chemists" have no idea what they are doing, they end up with a little bit of meth mixed with a bunch of unreacted ephedrine and ephedrine analogs and red Phosphorus as impurity.
Pharmaceutical grade meth is made by reductively alkylating phenylpropanone and methylamine with metal catalysts under pressure. This yields extremely high quality meth, and the professional chemists purify it to 99.99% purity. The problem is that making meth with phenylpropanone and methylamine is far beyond the capabilities of street meth manufacturers.
Therefore, the only true meth available is Desoxyn or Japanese "Shabu", which is made in clandestine labs by professional chemists. Shabu is real high quality meth at over 90% purity, and a gram costs as much as one grand.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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hahahahahaaa, this explains it, "sucky" is a meth addict, no wonder you claim all sorts of crazy shit, youre high as a kite.
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hahahahahaaa, this explains it, "sucky" is a meth addict, no wonder you claim all sorts of crazy shit, youre high as a kite.
Fat Dave, where have I implied that I am a meth addict? I use it only in emergencies when I am very tired. It is too potent to be used to get high on a daily basis. I prefer snorting Ritalin to get high. I use meth as frequently as you go to the gym - judging by the enormous amounts of fat on your waist, not very often.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Fat Dave, where have I implied that I am a meth addict? I use it only in emergencies when I am very tired. It is too potent to be used to get high on a daily basis. I prefer snorting Ritalin to get high. I use meth as frequently as you go to the gym - judging by the enormous amounts of fat on your waist, not very often.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
lol, at least im not using methamphetamine and bragging about it on an open forum, what a dumbass, and if you have to use meth to keep bodyfat in check what does that tell you about yourself, dope addict?
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lol, at least im not using methamphetamine and bragging about it on an open forum, what a dumbass, and if you have to use meth to keep bodyfat in check what does that tell you about yourself, dope addict?
Hey, you fat fucktard moron, I will brag about whatever the fuck I want, and I can do it since I am not posting from the U.S...
And where have I stated that I use meth to keep bodyfat in check, you fat idiot? Can you read? No wonder you live in a trailer. Who would give employment to a fat moron without even a middle school education such as yourself?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Hey, you fat fucktard moron, I will brag about whatever the fuck I want, and I can do it since I am not posting from the U.S...
And where have I stated that I use meth to keep bodyfat in check, you fat idiot? Can you read? No wonder you live in a trailer. Who would give employment to a fat moron without even a middle school education such as yourself?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
jeez man put the needle and spoon down youre babbling incoherently in a meth induced spasm, hahaha, it all makes sense now, the 350 pounds ripped, breaking the German Shepherds spine, 625 pound bench press, youre always high, go away now and grind your teeth down to the nub like all meth freaks do. ;D
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Sucky,
For some reason I always thought you were South Florida. My bad. Are you living in Canada, South American or Europe?
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LOLOL, didn't you write some time ago that you live Ft. Lauderdale in Florida?
You can't even keep track of your lies, your head is turning into mash ;D
Oh and by the way, I own your mind ;D
hahaha, you better watch out, Sucky might get so mad that he blows up his bathtub meth lab and kills his entire rent controlled apartment building. ;D
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LOLOL, didn't you write some time ago that you live Ft. Lauderdale in Florida?
You can't even keep track of your lies, your head is turning into mash ;D
Oh and by the way, I own what's left of your mind ;D
Wow, you're so dumb. So because I was born in Ft.Lauderdale and lived there many years that means I could never live anywhere else?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You're a pathological liar, fat, unwanted, perenially benastied, a loveless and friendless simian shape.... whose mashed remains of a mind I own ;)
Oh, and I also hope you fucking die a miserable lonely death bro ;D
The more you argue with me, the more you get owned as evidenced by the reply in my previous post, and the more your hatred for me increases. You are really dumb and cannot really win any sort of argument or debate with me.
Keep saying my name... ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Smoking meth. For those who want to jump the shark. The ultimate high for the ultimate price.
LOL, the rat on meth! ;D
Can you imagine being attacked by a rat on meth? Those tiny teeth coming at you!!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I take valium for anxiety...............do ctor prescribed along with Cymbalta which isn`t doing shit for me.
I like feeling mellow as I`m one stressed out SOB at times.
this explains a lot
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The only true methamphetamine available besides Desoxyn is Asian Shabu, which is made by professional chemists in countries like Thailand and Laos where they don't give a shit about the Puritanical anti-drug values of American Society.
Street meth is a mixture of ephedrine, iodoephedrine, methylephedrine and red Phosphorus with about 2% of low quality meth thrown in. Addicts are really addicted to an ephedrine buzz mixed with Phosphorus poisoning and not true meth.
The only people in the World who have done real meth are people with prescriptions for Desoxyn or who have bought Asian Shabu, which costs 100 times more than street meth.
http://www.westword.com/2003-09-04/news/72-hour-party-people/ (http://www.westword.com/2003-09-04/news/72-hour-party-people/)
"It comes wrapped in red foil and purple tissue, this intricate figurine molded in the form of a Japanese demon, with clawed feet, a mane of fire and a thick tongue jutting from a bloodthirsty smirk. Transparent, the size of a child's fist, it looks like a tiny ice carving or a statuette of glass. It is neither. In fact, it is 25 grams (a little less than one ounce) of nearly 100 percent pure crystallized methamphetamine hydrochloride, known on the streets of Asia as "Shabu." It was almost certainly manufactured in a clandestine laboratory in China, then shipped to the Philippines and on to Hawaii, and finally to Denver. Here it was purchased on the black market for $5,500 -- nearly five times the street value of an equivalent amount of cocaine and ten times that of low-grade, powdered crystal meth.
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ValiumAsia (Band)Circus Circus Las VegasChevrolet CorvetteColorado SpringsShabu is so expensive because it is so pure -- and therefore so powerful. Most of the home-cooked speed in Denver is only 10 to 20 percent actual crystallized methamphetamine, adulterated with toxic by-products of the makeshift ingredients used in crude manufacturing processes. While any tweaker with a hot plate can whip together a batch of bathtub speed, Shabu requires a trained chemist working in a fully equipped laboratory with uncorrupted components. The result is pharmaceutical-grade meth -- 95-plus percent pure.
As much as the word can be applied to an illegal drug, Shabu is clean.
"There's no horse deworming medicine in this shit, okay? You can't make this kind of shit out of road flares and cold pills," says Nick, delicately unwrapping the Shabu demon atop the burnished steel of his Swedish designer coffee table.
"This is the shit JFK was getting jacked in his ass during the Cuban missile crisis. I shouldn't even be calling this shit 'shit,' because it's disrespectful."
Nick peels away the last scrap of foil and positions the demon in the center of the coffee table, surrounding it with a careful arrangement of long-stemmed glass pipes, miniature butane torches and razor-sharp utility knives.
On this Thursday afternoon in late summer, Nick is preparing the second-floor recreation room of his fashionably appointed Highland home for what has become a twice-a-month ritual of extreme indulgence for a revolving group of five to ten fellow hip, young and successful citizens of Denver.
"Basically," he says, "we blast off Thursday night and don't pull the chute until Sunday."
During their 72-hour run, he and his friends will eat little solid food save fruit, so Nick's fridge and freezer are stocked with the makings for smoothies. Along with yogurt, organic apple juice and frozen blackberries, strawberries and mangoes are five bottles of Moët champagne, a dozen bottles of Italian sparkling water, four cases of microbrew, two bottles of chilled New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc and a discount-warehouse carton of 400 Otter Pops.
Speed-binge supplies of a different nature have been cached in a master-bathroom medicine cabinet -- one bottle holding ninety Valiums and another with forty tablets of ProVigil, the market name for the experimental drug Modafonil, a sleep suppressant the U.S. military tested on fighter and bomber pilots in Afghanistan and Iraq. Modafonil is now prescribed for cancer patients to combat the chronic-fatigue side effects of chemotherapy. Nick has laid in a supply because he claims he's found that combining Modafonil with Shabu takes the edge off the undesirable psychological whammies of sleep deprivation, including auditory hallucinations and paranoid delusions.
"One night without sleep is just staying up all night," he says. "People do that straight or just with coffee all the time. You feel a little zoned-out in the morning, but by midday, your natural rhythm kicks in. So long as you get some sleep that following night, you're cool. But when you ride the party train two nights in a row, or three nights, things can start to get a little odd, a little slippery. And if somebody spins out, it's no fun."
In other words, a sudden case of amphetamine psychosis really brings a party down.
"I consider this shit an excellent use of my tax dollars," Nick says, rattling a bottle of ProVigil. "It helps keep people from going werewolf around hour 50."
He buys his ProVigil from a psychiatrist friend of a friend who works in several Veterans Affairs hospitals counseling and treating terminal cancer patients. When the patients die, their families don't know what to do with their ProVigil pills, so they give them to the psychiatrist, who gives them to Nick's friend, who sells them to Nick.
All he'll say about this Shabu is that it comes from Hawaii and that he has a source -- another friend of a friend -- who flies to Honolulu once every other month, buying two or three statuettes at a time for resale in Denver and Colorado Springs. It's no big syndicate, just small-time narcotics smuggling where the payoff is a free trip to Hawaii, a little extra spending money and the rush of getting away with it.
The rush of Shabu itself is freakishly powerful. A single minuscule hit -- about one-tenth of a gram, vaporized and inhaled -- is enough to keep a weekend warrior like Nick riding the lightning for twelve hours."
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I love it!!!! I fucking love it!!! Just pop a few of these and elation follows and the most awesome feeling of mental clarity. It is better than coke, booze, benzos, E and all that shit....it hits you so hard, man. So fucking hard....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
How's the comedown?
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Firstly this is your dumbest thread and there has been a few,but the penny just dropped now we know why you are so delirious , secondly combining steroids and amphetamines will enlarge your heart,so much so that outlaw clubs usually only allow members to do one of them due to high death rates of members in late 30s early 40s. amphetamine use on its own oiver long periods will give your heart VT even when your not high, long term users have a high rate arrythmic heart issues, drugs fuck people up, its your choice to use them but going on a forum promoting how good they are is stupid, they fuck peoples lives up, maybe not yours yet, but eventually your turn may come, maybe try keeping this type of stuff to yourself.
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the Puritanical anti-drug values of American Society.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
This made me laugh,the US are the pill-pushing capital of the world.
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Meth, drug of choice for rednecks.
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Best party drug is LSD :o
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The most important thing with meth is not to jump the shark. Small doses of meth taken orally and that's it. If you want to get really, really high, then you can snort it.
Meth should never be injected or smoked. When injected or smoked, it is more addictive than crack and heroine. I am not aware of any human being who has smoked meth who hasn't completely ruined their lives.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Mars handing out some good information.
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The most important thing with meth is not to jump the shark. Small doses of meth taken orally and that's it. If you want to get really, really high, then you can snort it.
Meth should never be injected or smoked. When injected or smoked, it is more addictive than crack and heroine. I am not aware of any human being who has smoked meth who hasn't completely ruined their lives.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Yeah. Why don't you submit those findings to JAMA. Moron. ::)
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Yeah. Why don't you submit those findings to JAMA. Moron.
You have a chimp in your avatar; I have a gorilla. This shows the pecking order between me and you. Pay respects to your superior.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The most important thing with meth is not to jump the shark. Small doses of meth taken orally and that's it. If you want to get really, really high, then you can snort it.
Meth should never be injected or smoked. When injected or smoked, it is more addictive than crack and heroine. I am not aware of any human being who has smoked meth who hasn't completely ruined their lives.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
thanks man
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Mars handing out some good information.
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The most important thing with meth is not to jump the shark. Small doses of meth taken orally and that's it. If you want to get really, really high, then you can snort it.
Meth should never be injected or smoked. When injected or smoked, it is more addictive than crack and heroine. I am not aware of any human being who has smoked meth who hasn't completely ruined their lives.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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HOW do you take it orally, and what is a "small" dose?
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The problem with Desoxyn is that the initial Euphoria you get via dopamine reuptake inhibition is vastly overshadowed by the stimulant component of the drug, which leaves you wide awake and sketched out for way, way longer than you want. Sure, if you're in Miami for Ultra and you're wanting to be awake for the next 72 hours straight, then this drug will work great for that. But in just about every other instance, you will inevitably reach that point when you can't sleep and you're saying to yourself, "This sucks".
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HOW do you take it orally, and what is a "small" dose?
Here is how you do it: you put it in your tongue, tilt your head slighly backwards and then you contract your mouth and larynx muscles to perform the swallowing motion, which will take it to your stomach to be absorbed into your bloodstream.
Now do you want some help in learning how to clean your tushy after using the potty, too?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The problem with Desoxyn is that the initial Euphoria you get via dopamine reuptake inhibition is vastly overshadowed by the stimulant component of the drug, which leaves you wide awake and sketched out for way, way longer than you want. Sure, if you're in Miami for Ultra and you're wanting to be awake for the next 72 hours straight, then this drug will work great for that. But in just about every other instance, you will inevitably reach that point when you can't sleep and you're saying to yourself, "This sucks".
I don't agree with you. I find this to be true more for methylphenidate than for amphetamine or meth. Ritalin gets you excited and euphoric for about 40 minutes to an hour, and then the high is gone leaving you only with mental clarity, and then you crash another couple hours after that.
Meth's high is not only stronger than that of Ritalin, but it lasts for as long as the effect of the drug, usually 12 hours or more. The dowside is that the crash is really, really bad and lasts for a couple days or even more.
Meth is much, much better and stronger than Ritalin or other stimulants. The minuses are the crash, the muscle wasting and the brain damage - especially if you smoke it, since it will give you ischemic strokes.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Guys, this is seriously the strongest shit you'll ever try. I swear, taking this shit orally makes snorting coke seem like a cup of coffee in comparison. I cannot even imagine how strong this shit would feel if I snorted it. The reason why I don't do it is because snorting amphetamines can actually give you a stroke almost instantly.
I was used to snorting Ritalin for fun, so I thought I knew what to expect when I tried this for the first time. Boy, was I wrong!!!! I took 10 mg the first time, and it made the 100 mg of Ritalin I was used to snort at once seem like a cup of coffee compared to the 100 mg of Ritalin. It was 3:00 AM and I was exhausted so I swallowed it and forgot about it. About 15 minutes latter BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM M!!!!!!!!! It was like my heart was about to explode from my chest and I felt like I had just won the lottery, and my eyes were literally glued to my eye sockets. Know the feeling you had the first time you fucked a woman and she dropped her panties? The feeling of excitment and happiness is 10 X greater.
This shit is literally 10 X more powerful than Ritalin and 100 X more powerful than weight-loss stimulants like diethylpropion. It is the most fucked up shit ever and I love it!!!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You sure don't sound like a junkie.
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You sure don't sound like a junkie.
Because I am not one. Sorry if you thought I was trying to give that impression. I just use drugs for fun.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Here is how you do it: you put it in your tongue, tilt your head slighly backwards and then you contract your mouth and larynx muscles to perform the swallowing motion, which will take it to your stomach to be absorbed into your bloodstream.
Now do you want some help in learning how to clean your tushy after using the potty, too?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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My question wasn't a criticism or challenge- I'm not here to be negative. I just was asking as I have no idea what constitutes a "small" dose...
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My question wasn't a criticism or challenge- I'm not here to be negative. I just was asking as I have no idea what constitutes a "small" dose...
The question of how to take orally a drug must have been a joke, since no one is this retarded - not even retards.
As for low dose of meth, it is a very potent drug, but I would say 5 mg. 50 miligrams can induce psychosis for those who lack tolerance for teh drug.
No one should use meth to study and focus as it is too strong(Ritalin and Dexedrine are better for that), but to focus 5 to 10 miligrams is enough. To get high, I would say 30 miligrams snorted is the best. Taking more will indude psychosis and probably brain damage. And I must remember that meth should never be injected or smoked.
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The question of how to take orally a drug must have been a joke, since no one is this retarded - not even retards.
As for low dose of meth, it is a very potent drug, but I would say 5 mg. 50 miligrams can induce psychosis for those who lack tolerance for teh drug.
No one should use meth to study and focus as it is too strong(Ritalin and Dexedrine are better for that), but to focus 5 to 10 miligrams is enough. To get high, I would say 30 miligrams snorted is the best. Taking more will indude psychosis and probably brain damage. And I must remember that meth should never be injected or smoked.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Cigaretteman approved ::)
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The most important thing with meth is not to jump the shark. Small doses of meth taken orally and that's it. If you want to get really, really high, then you can snort it.
Meth should never be injected or smoked. When injected or smoked, it is more addictive than crack and heroine. I am not aware of any human being who has smoked meth who hasn't completely ruined their lives.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
well ya just did
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Alcohol is not a drug. True or false?
False.
As a matter of fact alcohol is probably the most widely used drug in America. An interesting statistic, not to bore you with statistics, but an interesting statistic, 55% of the inmates that are in prison in the United States, over half are there because of some alcohol related crime.
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A lot of people have been sending me PMs asking me the difference between amphetamines and cocaine. It is very hard to explain the difference.
I would say that amphetamines gets you more wired and with a more powerful feeling of physical drive and needs to get things done than cocaine. You can stay up for a week or more on Adderall or Dexedrine, but you would probably collapse from exhaustion after 3 day doing coke. They are stronger stimulants than cocaine.
However, cocaine gives you a better high than amphetamine. The feeling of elation and contentment that coke gives you is wonderful and better than amphetamine. Meth is comparable to cocaine.
You cannot get as high on amphetamine as on coke. If you take a really huge dose of amphetamine(say 100-200 mg), you do get high, but the high is not as intense as even as little as 20 mg of meth or snorting coke.
Now meth is a different story. Meth is a more powerful euphoriant than amphetamine and comparable to coke. Which is better is debatable, but meth is "edgier" and you cannot enjoy any given thing when on it like when on cocaine. The latter is less edgy and allows you to enjoy music, partying or sex more than meth. When on meth you focus on a million different things and cannot nejoy any given thing as much.
The reason why amphetamine does not get you as high as meth or cocaine is because of the way it acts. Amphetamine triggers the release and blocks the reuptake of norepinephrine and dopamine, but it is not as effective as meth at doing the former thing or as cocaine as doing the latter thing.
Cocaine triggers very little dopamine release, but it blocks the reuptake almost completely giving you an intense high.... Meth is not as effective as cocaine at blocking the reputake just like amphetamine, but it triggers the release of enormous amounts of dopamine also giving you an intense high. Amphetamine does not release a lot of dopamine, unlike meth, and it does not block the reuptake of dopamine very effectively, unlike cocaine. The end result is that it raises synaptic levels of dopamine only mildly compared to cocaine and meth, thus raising your mood but not giving you an intense high.
The bottom line is this:
Best drug for studying and focusing = amphetamine
Best drug for partying or fucking = cocaine
Best drug for getting fucked up, which comes in handy if you are at a war or something = meth
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The bottom line is this:
Best drug for studying and focusing = amphetamine
Best drug for partying or fucking = cocaine
Best drug for getting fucked up, which comes in handy if you are at a war or something = meth
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what do you mean by that?
literally a war?
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what do you mean by that?
literally a war?
Yes, literally a war. Meth gets you as wired and full of energy as amphetamine, which is ideal for staying alive around lots of people that want to kill you, and it gets you as happy as crack cocaine, which is probably necessary to keep you going amidst all the horrors of people dismembered and blown to smittens.
My point is that meth is not really necessary for anything. It is an over-the-top drug. Even crack is a mild stimulant compared to it.
For getting high cocaine is just as good without getting you as wired and unsettled, and for focusing amphetamine is just as good without the intense wiredness and addiction. Pretty much all that meth does it put you in one gear:
GO!!
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pretty sure it will fuck up your organs or the lows will be devestating
taking a pill is not dealing correctly with reality
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pretty sure it will fuck up your organs or the lows will be devestating
taking a pill is not dealing correctly with reality
A very intelligent looking dude in your avatar Johnny does he have the keys to the universe?
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A lot of people have been sending me PMs asking me the difference between amphetamines and cocaine. It is very hard to explain the difference.
I would say that amphetamines gets you more wired and with a more powerful feeling of physical drive and needs to get things done than cocaine. You can stay up for a week or more on Adderall or Dexedrine, but you would probably collapse from exhaustion after 3 day doing coke. They are stronger stimulants than cocaine.
However, cocaine gives you a better high than amphetamine. The feeling of elation and contentment that coke gives you is wonderful and better than amphetamine. Meth is comparable to cocaine.
You cannot get as high on amphetamine as on coke. If you take a really huge dose of amphetamine(say 100-200 mg), you do get high, but the high is not as intense as even as little as 20 mg of meth or snorting coke.
Now meth is a different story. Meth is a more powerful euphoriant than amphetamine and comparable to coke. Which is better is debatable, but meth is "edgier" and you cannot enjoy any given thing when on it like when on cocaine. The latter is less edgy and allows you to enjoy music, partying or sex more than meth. When on meth you focus on a million different things and cannot nejoy any given thing as much.
The reason why amphetamine does not get you as high as meth or cocaine is because of the way it acts. Amphetamine triggers the release and blocks the reuptake of norepinephrine and dopamine, but it is not as effective as meth at doing the former thing or as cocaine as doing the latter thing.
Cocaine triggers very little dopamine release, but it blocks the reuptake almost completely giving you an intense high.... Meth is not as effective as cocaine at blocking the reputake just like amphetamine, but it triggers the release of enormous amounts of dopamine also giving you an intense high. Amphetamine does not release a lot of dopamine, unlike meth, and it does not block the reuptake of dopamine very effectively, unlike cocaine. The end result is that it raises synaptic levels of dopamine only mildly compared to cocaine and meth, thus raising your mood but not giving you an intense high.
The bottom line is this:
Best drug for studying and focusing = amphetamine
Best drug for partying or fucking = cocaine
Best drug for getting fucked up, which comes in handy if you are at a war or something = meth
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bwahahaah, and this is the same person that hates on steroids because "they are bad for your health". ::) ::)
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bwahahaah, and this is the same person that hates on steroids because "they are bad for your health".
Where have I claimed amphetamines are harmless, idiot? They are not as bad for you as steroids, and at least they get you high. What is the point of ruining your health and not get high? To be whispered at by schmoes?
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Where have I claimed amphetamines are harmless, idiot? They are not as bad for you as steroids, and at least they get you high. What is the point of ruining your health and not get high? To be whispered at by schmoes?
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::) ::) ::)
Ask some other meth users, and see what they say. ::) ::)
Epic junkie denial here, "I have it all under control, as long as I only sniff the meth I am fine, when I REALLY want to get high I do cocaine instead to be on the safe side".
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Ask some other meth users, and see what they say.
Epic junkie denial here, "I have it all under control, as long as I only sniff the meth I am fine, when I REALLY want to get high I do cocaine instead to be on the safe side".
Actually, cocaine is a better party drug than meth. Meth gets you as high as cocaine, but it also gets you too wired and unsettled. You cannot fuck as well on meth because:
1) The dick gets hard like granite but you cannot cum.
2) You cannot enjoy the touches of the woman as your mind is in a billion places at once.
A battlefield is the only place I can think of where meth is an "ideal" drug. It is too over-the-top for anything else. For sex and partying methinks coke and snorting methylphenidate(Ritalin) are the best. Amphetamine is the best to give you physical and mental energy. Meth is ideal for concocting plans of World domination.
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Where have I claimed amphetamines are harmless, idiot? They are not as bad for you as steroids, and at least they get you high. What is the point of ruining your health and not get high? To be whispered at by schmoes?
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F**k you're an idiot..Hahahah.
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F**k you're an idiot..Hahahah.
For once, we agree.
But we're just haters, if we were 400lbs, 6'7 3% bf all natural, we would be using meth for fun as well.
SMM is safe with his IQ of 600 as well, he can meth away 300 points and is still the most intelligent human being on the planet.
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Actually, cocaine is a better party drug than meth. Meth gets you as high as cocaine, but it also gets you too wired and unsettled. You cannot fuck as well on meth because:
1) The dick gets hard like granite but you cannot cum.
2) You cannot enjoy the touches of the woman as your mind is in a billion places at once.
A battlefield is the only place I can think of where meth is an "ideal" drug. It is too over-the-top for anything else. For sex and partying methinks coke and snorting methylphenidate(Ritalin) are the best. Amphetamine is the best to give you physical and mental energy. Meth is ideal for concocting plans of World domination.
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mdma is the better party drug imo
cocaine leaves you with inhibitions whilst yes lowering them... depends on how you like to party I guess :D
meth gives greater euphoria than cocaine obviously... but yes as you say can't focus...
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Meth makes me very focused and feeling great. I have zero crash or comedown from it, it just makes me feel what I wish was normal.
I have done it about 5 times, and was so productive and enthusiastic, I wish I was like that all the time.
I stayed up the night I took it, and slept the following night. I dosed only once though.
Amphetamine doesn't do shit for me, I can sleep on 3 20mg adderall. Cocaine gives me euphoria for a few minutes the first few lines,
then I get zero from it, my dopamine is already low and gets depleted almost instantly. I can eat and sleep on cocaine without issue.
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F**k you're an idiot..Hahahah.
My intelligence is literally double yours. You need to know your place and be humble when talking to me, you inbred hillbilly moron.
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likely a dead end. Don't live life for the moment.
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My intelligence is literally double yours. You need to know your place and be humble when talking to me, you inbred hillbilly moron.
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And you prove it with every post..hahahaha!
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How are the two drugs even comparable, idiot? One is an euphoriant/stimulant, whilst the other is for building muscles. Sure, trenbolone is not as addictive as meth, but it also doesen't get you high either. You talk as if they serve the same purpose and that tren is better. You are unbelievably stupid.
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You spelled your name wrong chief. LOL
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You spelled your name wrong chief. LOL
He spelled it Korean style: Sook Me Mo Sel...
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Because I am not one. Sorry if you thought I was trying to give that impression. I just use drugs for fun.
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So whats stopping you from gettin really high and unifying Relativity and Quantum mechanics.
Actually if you could somehow explain Galaxy Rotation curves without resorting to dark (gimmick) matter while slightly modifying special relativity that would be great.
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SMM is a fucking junkie and a pedo. Lock that bitch up.
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Meth makes your testosterone level plummet, i know guys who get fucked on meth before they get their bloods done so they can score scripts for Primatest.
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Shut up, pedophile. Your place is hanging from a tree.
Oh, so you were not talking to me in that other thread, huh? Brutal self-ownage from a turd. ;)
As for the pedophile charge, you better post evidence of this right now or I am taking this to Ron as this is a serious charge.
And I have bad news for you: as much as you want me to die, my latest blood work shows that my health is outstanding and that I will live for a very long time. Your mom is a lucky c.u.n.t. 8) ;D
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Meth makes me very focused and feeling great. I have zero crash or comedown from it, it just makes me feel what I wish was normal.
I have done it about 5 times, and was so productive and enthusiastic, I wish I was like that all the time.
I stayed up the night I took it, and slept the following night. I dosed only once though.
Amphetamine doesn't do shit for me, I can sleep on 3 20mg adderall. Cocaine gives me euphoria for a few minutes the first few lines,
then I get zero from it, my dopamine is already low and gets depleted almost instantly. I can eat and sleep on cocaine without issue.
if you can't focus on meth then you have something seriously wrong with you, it's the best medication for focus and attention known to man.
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Not talking? Are your brains turning into mash, spazz boy?
I replied (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=424324.msg6099564#msg6099564) to you regarding the pedo proof and you blatantly ignored me. You avoided the proposition hoping in vain that the accusation would go away.
Except these things won't.
Tell Ron I will send him the screencaps if he wants proof. However, he won't request them because he knows well which thread they were taken from since he deleted it.
You know well what you wrote, so don't play dumb now. Yet another serious faux-pas that your autistic brain couldn't prevent you from committing.
You are going to get banned from this board. I promise you that.
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You are going to get banned from this board. I promise you that.
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It's well known that SMM posts threads about 14-15 yr old girls talking about how hittable they are ???
I didn't know this was in dispute, because he has vehemently argued that it doesn't qualify as pedophilia because they start showing mature characteristics at that age. Creepy as fuck, but it really isn't a secret that SMM has these view ???
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LOL I am not legitimizing shit, I'm just out of the loop on why this is even being disputed by SMM now. You are a relatively recent poster, so perhaps you are unaware of the history of SMMs posts on this. Just confused, that's all.
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You're trying pass it as common knowledge, so not really that much of an "issue". A person's attraction to underages, FFS
You should be using your own moral principles, providing of course that you've got any, not giving a pass to this perverted cunt because noone else is bashing him.
You're misinterpreting my post and my intentions for posting it.
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It's well known that SMM posts threads about 14-15 yr old girls talking about how hittable they are ???
I didn't know this was in dispute, because he has vehemently argued that it doesn't qualify as pedophilia because they start showing mature characteristics at that age. Creepy as fuck, but it really isn't a secret that SMM has these view ???
you're being facetious I hope
just because he states they are maturing at that age does not legalise or moralise his statements and postings nor does it qualify them as being acceptable
there are members with dignity and scruples that do not wish that filth posted where they frequent ... period
their opinions are just as valid as his .. he is no better than anyone and when he is out of line it should not be allowed no matter his self imposed importance here
it's disgusting .. vile .. and he should be castrated for the well being of the world
his place here is nothing more than somewhere he can act out what society and laws prevent him from doing in front of others that can identify him
funny how PT was crucified for being outed but y'all want to suck sucky's ass and not berate and annihilate him for doing worse
at the very least PT NEVER brought that shit here
fuck the lame bullshit rationalisations and claims of not being serious .. it's sick twisted despicable behaviour to indulge or allow
if he does it again there should be a TIME OUT
fuck sake people are TIMED OUT for less
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you're being facetious I hope
just because he states they are maturing at that age does not legalise or moralise his statements and postings nor does it qualify them as being acceptable
there are members with dignity and scruples that do not wish that filth posted where they frequent ... period
their opinions are just as valid as his .. he is no better than anyone and when he is out of line it should not be allowed no matter his self imposed importance here
it's disgusting .. vile .. and he should be castrated for the well being of the world
his place here is nothing more than somewhere he can act out what society and laws prevent him from doing in front of others that can identify him
funny how PT was crucified for being outed but y'all want to suck sucky's ass and not berate and annihilate him for doing worse
at the very least PT NEVER brought that shit here
fuck the lame bullshit rationalisations and claims of not being serious .. it's sick twisted despicable behaviour to indulge or allow
if he does it again there should be a TIME OUT
fuck sake people are TIMED OUT for less
i have to admit I didn't read all that.. I never said his reasons were right. I just remember CLEAR AS DAY that HE was making those arguments.
That is ALL. haha, what the hell is this mess I got myself into ;D
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A pedophile is someone that likes prepubescents. I don't think SMM is a pedo, and I've never seen him advocate sex with prepubescent children.
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A pedophile is someone that likes prepubescents. I don't think SMM is a pedo.
Exactly. I would best be defined as an ephebophile and not a pedophile, even though I am not even an ephebophile. But you cannot expect morons like Gaymondo to understand this since he is like a toddler with ADHD.
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Shall I start a new thread on the main board, post the screencaps and let everyone decide?
I think you are trolling me. I have boosted my post count by at least 500+ posts owning you, and even though it was fun for a while, I am now bored with you. You will never again by addressed by me.
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Exactly. I would best be defined as an ephebophile and not a pedophile, even though I am not even an ephebophile. But you cannot expect morons like Gaymondo to understand this since he is like a toddler with ADHD.
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Yes and ephebophiles are not even considered abnormal by psychiatry; however pedophiles--which are entirely different-- are. I don't have an issue with ephebophiles, but people shouldn't engage in it because it's illegal. However it used to be quite common in this country, and it continues to be legal in most of the world.
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Aahahahahha, what a pussy. Run away now, man-child. I've owned you and made me you meltdown repeatedly, as this thread clearly shows when you threatened to have me banned just a while ago
If you are so confident with labeling your perversions, let me repeat myself: Shall I start a new thread on the main board, post the screencaps and let everyone decide?
Yeah, you make me meltdown...this is why you stalk me into every thread trying to get my attention. I own your mind and I have obviously hurt your feelings which is why you desperately try to get my attention. ;) So I will deprive you of what you want more: my attention, and watch you meltdown repeatedly. ;)
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You disgunsting C.U.N.T
You send me PM messages begging me to stop picking on you like a little bitch and now you make personal attacks on me, huh?
You hypocrite bitch.
As for me being castrated, I would rip off that little dick you call a clitoris with pliers and then stick it up your asshole just because I know you hate dicks so much, you ugly dyke.
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LIAR
Ron was copied that ONE pm where I told you to leave me alone when you were trolling me over nothing .. so STFU with your lies
He told you to stop it
BEG .. LOL
I wish you were close to me running your mouth like you do from your keyboard
I would blow your fucking small brain out and put you out of your misery
GLADLY
I am allowed to post my opinion .. you just can't handle reading the truth about yourself .. that's not trolling you it's adding a valid opinion on what you have posted and why it's vile
run along boy .. you don't have any effect on me with your asinine insults anymore .. it's always the same shit .. you aren't even smart enough to use the word CUNT .. MONGOL
this thread and all your threads are retarded
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LOL I am not legitimizing shit, I'm just out of the loop on why this is even being disputed by SMM now. You are a relatively recent poster, so perhaps you are unaware of the history of SMMs posts on this. Just confused, that's all.
outted pedo. Haidar with his new girlfriend.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYT0lW_rnMWG2HGBO6PbRQjzTl64e8iExfM-cgC5-QBAmsr6YTV87VECKqAQ)
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If it seems to your autistic head that I reply to you, it's because I don't tolerate the existence of pedophiles.
Better brace yourself, we'll have many such discussions in every new thread you make in the G&O board. Even if you don't reply to me, in the end this community will ostracise you.
Then what will you do, spazzo- this website is your life.
**Edit: for the third time, Shall I start a new thread on the main board, post the screencaps and let everyone decide?
yes my plan is working.
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Ron was copied that ONE pm where I told you to leave me alone when you were trolling me over nothing .. so STFU with your lies
He told you to stop it
BEG .. LOL
I wish you were close to me running your mouth like you do from your keyboard
I would blow your fucking small brain out and put you out of your misery
GLADLY
I am allowed to post my opinion .. you just can't handle reading the truth about yourself .. that's not trolling you it's adding a valid opinion on what you have posted and why it's vile
run along boy .. you don't have any effect on me with your asinine insults anymore .. it's always the same shit .. you aren't even smart enough to use the word CUNT .. MONGOL
this thread and all your threads are retarded
Lying C.U.N.T
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STOP YOUR NONSENSE
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LEAVE ME ALONE
YOU ATTACK ME FOR NO REASON
You are clearly afraid of me. You wouldn't do anything to me in my presence except cry and ask me to leave you alone, you cowardly dyke... ;)
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Lying C.U.N.T
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LEAVE ME ALONE
YOU ATTACK ME FOR NO REASON
You are clearly afraid of me. You wouldn't do anything to me in my presence except cry and ask me to leave you alone, you cowardly dyke... ;)
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there ya go MONGOL .. one PM that was blind copied to Ron .. and no begging at all .. you fucking retard
you keep thinking what you want but I promise you .. face to face ... I'd blow the top of your head open and laugh at the shit that pours out
without a second thought
not one nano second of hesitation
you and those like you are what contaminates the world .. I would cherish ridding the rest of society of ever having to hear one sound from you ever again
you are a useless waste of skin
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LEAVE ME ALONE
YOU ATTACK ME FOR NO REASON
You are clearly afraid of me. You wouldn't do anything to me in my presence except cry and ask me to leave you alone, you cowardly dyke... ;)
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dyke, lol.
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there ya go MONGOL .. one PM that was blind copied to Ron .. and no begging at all .. you fucking retard
you keep thinking what you want but I promise you .. face to face ... I'd blow the top of your head open and laugh at the shit that pours out
without a second thought
not one nano second of hesitation
you and those like you are what contaminates the world .. I would cherish ridding the rest of society of ever having to hear one sound from you ever again
you are a useless waste of skin
hahahaahaha this is a meltdown, threatening homicide.
As a master troll i would suggest you step away from the computer before you offer him a plane ticket to throw down.
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The only time Ive seen SMM truly get owned was by onemorerep. The reason he got owned is because SMM said Quaker Oats got run off by a homosexual (DA) and therefore deserves no respect. And then SMM went on to get challenged to a fight by onemorerep--an actual admitted homosexual. Onemorerep even offered to pay for a plane flight to meet him and SMM backed down.
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The only time Ive seen SMM truly get owned was by onemorerep. The reason he got owned is because SMM said Quaker Oats got run off by a homosexual (DA) and therefore deserves no respect. And then SMM went on to get challenged to a fight by onemorerep--an actual admitted homosexual. Onemorerep even offered to pay for a plane flight to meet him and SMM backed down.
No, they fell out before that and the actual circumstance is on this very thread.
And OMR owned him before that and in far worse ways.
And I just made SMM my gimp. He threatened to have his uncle ban me from the site, then he ran away with the amusing excuse: "I no longer reply to you". LOL
If that's not an ownage, what is
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hahahaahaha this is a meltdown, threatening homicide.
As a master troll i would suggest you step away from the computer before you offer him a plane ticket to throw down.
no ... not one bit of melt ;)
I take pleasure in the thought of that POS being near me ... you may accept a sickness as deep as he carries .. but I don't
It would be my pleasure .. no mistake .. PLEASURE .. to do exactly as I wrote
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No, they fell out before that and the actual circumstance is on this very thread.
And OMR owned him before that and in far worse ways.
And I just made SMM my gimp. He threatened to have his uncle ban me from the site, then he ran away with the amusing excuse: "I no longer reply to you". LOL
If that's not an ownage, what is
Onemorerep definitively owned him by forcing him to back down from an admitted homosexual after hypocritically criticizing Quaker Oats for being run off by an alleged homosexual. That's what an ownage is.
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lolol, you've got be joking; what do OneMoreRep's sexual preferences have to do with how hard he owned SMM?
Fucking mongol, better run away now, you're due an ownage yourself.
You're owned by your own lack of reading comprehension. And increasingly you are looking more and more pathetic through your desperate attempts to prove to everyone you 'owned' SMM.
LMAO ;D ;D ;D
I can say unequivocally that SMM has been around longer than you, and contribute much more in the way of bodybuilding related post, entertainment value, and ownages.
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The only time Ive seen SMM truly get owned was by onemorerep. The reason he got owned is because SMM said Quaker Oats got run off by a homosexual (DA) and therefore deserves no respect. And then SMM went on to get challenged to a fight by onemorerep--an actual admitted homosexual. Onemorerep even offered to pay for a plane flight to meet him and SMM backed down.
What the hell are you talking about? I never backed down from anything.
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there ya go MONGOL .. one PM that was blind copied to Ron .. and no begging at all .. you fucking retard
you keep thinking what you want but I promise you .. face to face ... I'd blow the top of your head open and laugh at the shit that pours out
without a second thought
not one nano second of hesitation
you and those like you are what contaminates the world .. I would cherish ridding the rest of society of ever having to hear one sound from you ever again
you are a useless waste of skin
LOL, you actually begged me to leave you alone. And how does the fact that you "send a copy to Ron" change anything?
And the only thing you would do in my presence is cry and beg for mercy from me. ;)
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Oh, and "professional", Earl also challenged me to a fight and I gave my address to him several times. Why would I be afraid of a queer if I am not afraid of Earl who is a former boxer ???
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Oh, and "professional", Earl also challenged me to a fight and I gave my address to him several times. Why would I be afraid of a queer if I am not afraid of Earl who is a former boxer ???
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Onemorerep offered to fight you and pay for your ticket to meet up. As I recall, you left this challenge unanswered. This was after you said you wanted to cut off W8m*'s nipples with a rusty razor since she supports the killing of animals for sport.
But I can beat the shit out of you and will gladly fly out to your state to prove that to you.
Lets set this up, Ron and any other members can agree to record the event and we can meet up at your state and go to a local boxing gym and pay for them to give us 10 minutes in a ring.
I will gladly beat the living shit out of you.
If you're near New York, let me know. I work out of Renzo Gracie's gym and he would gladly give me 30 minutes to spar/fight with anyone in his gym.
Ball in your court, coward....
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Onemorerep offered to fight you and pay for your ticket to meet up. As I recall, you left this challenge unanswered. This was after you said you wanted to cut off W8m*'s nipples with a rusty razor since she supports the killing of animals for sport.
LOL dude, I would fucking kill that queer in less than a minute. I actually have a black belt in Tae Kwan-Do and another in Kyokushin karate, and a purple belt in BJJ under Carlson Gracie from the time I lived in Brazil. I also currently weight 268 lbs and I am not fat. And we both know that he would not send the plane ticket.
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LOL dude, I would fucking kill that queer in less than a minute. I actually have a black belt in Tae Kwan-Do and another in Kyokushin karate, and a purple belt in BJJ under Carlson Gracie from the time I lived in Brazil. I also currently weight 268 lbs and I am not fat. And we both know that he would not send the plane ticket.
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::) Internet warrior ::)
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I love it!!!! I fucking love it!!! Just pop a few of these and elation follows and the most awesome feeling of mental clarity. It is better than coke, booze, benzos, E and all that shit....it hits you so hard, man. So fucking hard....
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It's clear the Meth has popped your neurons like bubble wrapping
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no ... not one bit of melt ;)
I take pleasure in the thought of that POS being near me ... you may accept a sickness as deep as he carries .. but I don't
It would be my pleasure .. no mistake .. PLEASURE .. to do exactly as I wrote
so you are a psychopath?
would you fuck him before you ate his dead body?
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LOL dude, I would fucking kill that queer in less than a minute. I actually have a black belt in Tae Kwan-Do and another in Kyokushin karate, and a purple belt in BJJ under Carlson Gracie from the time I lived in Brazil. I also currently weight 268 lbs and I am not fat. And we both know that he would not send the plane ticket.
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hey GENIUS it's WEIGH not WEIGHT
HAHA .. "1" would send you a ticket .. and you know it :D
My money is on him beating your filthy ass into a pulp inside of 2 minutes ... you are afraid of him and we all know it
moving on
You are clearly afraid of me. You wouldn't do anything to me in my presence except cry and ask me to leave you alone, you cowardly dyke... ;)
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LOL, you actually begged me to leave you alone. And how does the fact that you "send a copy to Ron" change anything?
And the only thing you would do in my presence is cry and beg for mercy from me. ;)
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Show me the begging part you retard .. you're repeating yourself and seem to be hallucinating as well
your pm wasn't meant to frighten me was it ? LMAO
HEY, YOU STUPID BITCH, YOU SEND ME A PM BEGGINING FOR ME TO STOP PICKING ON YOU, AND NOW YOU ATTACK ME...EPIC HYPOCRISY. YOU ARE ALSO FALSELY ACCUSING ME OF PEDOPHILIA IN AN OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO GET ME BANNED. WELL, THE TRUCE IS OFF, BITCH. I WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL IN THIS BOARD FROM NOW ON.
If you melted any worse you'd be a puddle .... you are a pathetic pedophile whose balls are so far up your ass you can't think straight .. there was no begging .. and there will be no fear of you .. what keeps you from seeing that ?
fuck off .... LOLOLOL sucky the clown
big mouth chicken shit kiddy fucker
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second biggest psychopath on GB = SMM
No 1 goes to "W8M8".
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second biggest psychopath on GB = SMM
No 1 goes to "W8M8".
they both appear to have autism.
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they both appear to have autism.
autism and probably a multiple personality disorder, it's probably the same guy running both accounts.
He just will never know, or somehow deep inside he does know. Creepy shit.
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stay on topic homos
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hey GENIUS it's WEIGH not WEIGHT
HAHA .. "1" would send you a ticket .. and you know it :D
My money is on him beating your filthy ass into a pulp inside of 2 minutes ... you are afraid of him and we all know it
moving on
Show me the begging part you retard .. you're repeating yourself and seem to be hallucinating as well
your pm wasn't meant to frighten me was it ? LMAO
If you melted any worse you'd be a puddle .... you are a pathetic pedophile whose balls are so far up your ass you can't think straight .. there was no begging .. and there will be no fear of you .. what keeps you from seeing that ?
fuck off .... LOLOLOL sucky the clown
big mouth chicken shit kiddy fucker
Ha ha ha ha...meltdown from a dyke.
The only thing you would do in my presence would be to beg for my mercy like the weak female that you are just like you did in that PM you sent me. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ha ha ha ha...meltdown from a dyke.
The only thing you would do in my presence would be to beg for my mercy like the weak female that you are just like you did in that PM you sent me. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Accept.the.1MR.challenge .bitch.
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Ha ha ha ha...meltdown from a dyke.
The only thing you would do in my presence would be to beg for my mercy like the weak female that you are just like you did in that PM you sent me. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL ... sucky the clown
you're retarded .. are you really a cripple boy ... because the way you act I think that may be more than just rumour
you are a sad individual with all sorts of bullshit claims that make you feel good about yourself
trouble is
everyone knows you're an empty ballsack that does nothing more than run your cum filled mouth
kiddy fucker filthy little bitch
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LOL ... sucky the clown
you're retarded .. are you really a cripple boy ... because the way you act I think that may be more than just rumour
you are a sad individual with all sorts of bullshit claims that make you feel good about yourself
trouble is
everyone knows you're an empty ballsack that does nothing more than run your cum filled mouth
kiddy fucker filthy little bitch
you are being rude
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LOL ... sucky the clown
you're retarded .. are you really a cripple boy ... because the way you act I think that may be more than just rumour
you are a sad individual with all sorts of bullshit claims that make you feel good about yourself
trouble is
everyone knows you're an empty ballsack that does nothing more than run your cum filled mouth
kiddy fucker filthy little bitch
Ha ha ha...another meltdown.
The only thing that would happen if you were in my presence is that I would take my dick out, take a leak, then slap my urine-soaked dick head across your face, just because I know you hate dicks so much. Then you would start crying and beg for my mercy just like you did in that PM you sent me. ;)
Cum-soaked mouth...I can only imagine how many times did Johns leave you like that until you became so traumatized you decided to become a dyke.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ha ha ha...another meltdown.
The only thing that would happen if you were in my presence is that I would take my dick out, take a leak, then slap my urine-soaked dick head across your face, just because I know you hate dicks so much. Then you would start crying and beg for my mercy just like you did in that PM you sent me. ;)
Cum-soaked mouth...I can only imagine how many times did Johns leave you like that until you became so traumatized you decided to become a dyke.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOLOLOL
did you make a mean face typing that stupid shit :D
you're a small retarded man-child with internet access that you need to feel like you matter
Ron made you a mod out of sympathy and your constant harassing messages begging him to favor you for your disability made him act without thinking right
you're a clown and the board all laughs at you
go answer "1"'s offer little bitch boy
oh hang on
you can't ... you know you're a fucking fool and he would smash your face in ... you're nothing but a big mouth out of control when the orderly isn't raping your face
carry on clown ... keep crying
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LOLOLOL
did you make a mean face typing that stupid shit :D
you're a small retarded man-child with internet access that you need to feel like you matter
Ron made you a mod out of sympathy and your constant harassing messages begging him to favor you for your disability made him act without thinking right
you're a clown and the board all laughs at you
go answer "1"'s offer little bitch boy
oh hang on
you can't ... you know you're a fucking fool and he would smash your face in ... you're nothing but a big mouth out of control when the orderly isn't raping your face
carry on clown ... keep crying
Another mega-melt. You are proving more and more the stereotype of dykes being wittless and humorless. On the other hand, you proved that sykes have periods, too. ;D
And I already told you that the only thing that would happen if you were in my presence is that I would take my dick out, take a leak, and then slap my dick head all over your face just because I know you hate dicks so much and then you would start crying and begging for mercy just like you did in that PM message to me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Another mega-melt. You are proving more and more the stereotype of dykes being wittless and humorless. On the other hand, you proved that sykes have periods, too. ;D
And I already told you that the only thing that would happen if you were in my presence is that I would take my dick out, take a leak, and then slap my dick head all over your face just because I know you hate dicks so much and then you would start crying and begging for mercy just like you did in that PM message to me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
retard ... you're stuck on repeat and still twisting shit to make yourself feel good
you have a small retention span and poor comprehension
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retard ... you're stuck on repeat and still twisting shit to make yourself feel good
you have a small retention span and poor comprehension
Another mega-melt. You are proving more and more the stereotype of dykes being wittless and humorless. On the other hand, you proved that sykes have periods, too.
And I already told you that the only thing that would happen if you were in my presence is that I would take my dick out, take a leak, and then slap my dick head all over your face just because I know you hate dicks so much and then you would start crying and begging for mercy just like you did in that PM message to me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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copy/paste
"OMRB"
*********jaw breaking fucking yawn**********
you're a bitchboy liar
LMAO at how LOW you look in front of everyone AGAIN
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Sucky,
Of course it's the strongest shit they will ever try, it's the tablet version of crystal METH.
Besides the initial euphoria you will feel from the surge of dopamine instantly released, you can also experience hypertensive crisis and find yourself in a serious mess.
Sucky, be careful, the stuff could kill you...
I'm going to speak to Ron to see if we can contact your parents, this is getting out of hand.
"1"
Look how kind OneMoreRep was to this scumbag.
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Yep. Here is my bottle of methamphetamine at 99.99% purity straight from the pharmacy.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=410442.0;attach=453421;image)
Add professional photographer to his list of accomplishments.
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This life style won't end up well. It never does. 30 plus years ago it was guys doing steroids, coke and speed. They all ended up complete losers in life in addition to looking like crap. Now being on this board I see history repeat itself.
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This life style won't end up well. It never does. 30 plus years ago it was guys doing steroids, coke and speed. They all ended up complete losers in life in addition to looking like crap. Now being on this board I see history repeat itself.
What happens to them??
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It would take to many words and I feel I'm getting set up by asking for a response.
When I was in college with during the late 70's and early 80's it was the height of bodybuilding popularity. Bodybuilding gyms were springing up all over the place. Steroids could be gotten from the trunk of some guy that had gym memberships to all the bodybuilding gyms. It seems he trained every day at different gym. He seemed to have no job but a nice car and place to live. It also seemed not only could he get any bodybuilding drug but any drug period. Guys would get their syringes, vials, pills and some coke from this guy. He wasn't the only one doing this but it was common to any hard core gym. Sometimes it was the gym owners selling. During this time it was also possible to get steroids from certain doctors that would write you a prescription. Go to your local pharmacy and pick up your Androl 50.
To continue the story in college guys were crazy about bodybuilding. So many guys would go from zeros to heroes with steroids. Many of my friends competed in the many local bodybuilding contests. I grew up in a poor urban city and I wanted to make something of myself. Many of my friends worked to buy steroids and a cycle cost big bucks for a college kid. The life style was go on a cycle and hit the clubs doing coke and alcohol.
Most won't admit this but this is true. Steroids make you feel alive and confident. It increases your aggression and you feel great. When you go off for a good length of time you start feeling timid and nervous. That's where the addiction comes in. You want that anabolic feeling of well being.
Many through away the pursuit of a career through the pursuit of drugs. It's one of the oldest stories. After cycling on and off for many years they quit. The reasons were various. It was usually health, finances or even arrest. Suddenly they were 30 something with no career and no physique except for the picture they kept in their wallet to show people. In their youth they were famous for their drug muscles everywhere they went and now they were not in the spot light.
I could go on in detail. Maybe I will some day. I also know I will be blasted by some kid who bounces at the local night club loving his steroid life while living in his momma's house.
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QFT old timer - see it all the time!! Sad f cks
It would take to many words and I feel I'm getting set up by asking for a response.
When I was in college with during the late 70's and early 80's it was the height of bodybuilding popularity. Bodybuilding gyms were springing up all over the place. Steroids could be gotten from the trunk of some guy that had gym memberships to all the bodybuilding gyms. It seems he trained every day at different gym. He seemed to have no job but a nice car and place to live. It also seemed not only could he get any bodybuilding drug but any drug period. Guys would get their syringes, vials, pills and some coke from this guy. He wasn't the only one doing this but it was common to any hard core gym. Sometimes it was the gym owners selling. During this time it was also possible to get steroids from certain doctors that would write you a prescription. Go to your local pharmacy and pick up your Androl 50.
To continue the story in college guys were crazy about bodybuilding. So many guys would go from zeros to heroes with steroids. Many of my friends competed in the many local bodybuilding contests. I grew up in a poor urban city and I wanted to make something of myself. Many of my friends worked to buy steroids and a cycle cost big bucks for a college kid. The life style was go on a cycle and hit the clubs doing coke and alcohol.
Most won't admit this but this is true. Steroids make you feel alive and confident. It increases your aggression and you feel great. When you go off for a good length of time you start feeling timid and nervous. That's where the addiction comes in. You want that anabolic feeling of well being.
Many through away the pursuit of a career through the pursuit of drugs. It's one of the oldest stories. After cycling on and off for many years they quit. The reasons were various. It was usually health, finances or even arrest. Suddenly they were 30 something with no career and no physique except for the picture they kept in their wallet to show people. In their youth they were famous for their drug muscles everywhere they went and now they were not in the spot light.
I could go on in detail. Maybe I will some day. I also know I will be blasted by some kid who bounces at the local night club loving his steroid life while living in his momma's house.
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Ouch
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It would take to many words and I feel I'm getting set up by asking for a response.
When I was in college with during the late 70's and early 80's it was the height of bodybuilding popularity. Bodybuilding gyms were springing up all over the place. Steroids could be gotten from the trunk of some guy that had gym memberships to all the bodybuilding gyms. It seems he trained every day at different gym. He seemed to have no job but a nice car and place to live. It also seemed not only could he get any bodybuilding drug but any drug period. Guys would get their syringes, vials, pills and some coke from this guy. He wasn't the only one doing this but it was common to any hard core gym. Sometimes it was the gym owners selling. During this time it was also possible to get steroids from certain doctors that would write you a prescription. Go to your local pharmacy and pick up your Androl 50.
To continue the story in college guys were crazy about bodybuilding. So many guys would go from zeros to heroes with steroids. Many of my friends competed in the many local bodybuilding contests. I grew up in a poor urban city and I wanted to make something of myself. Many of my friends worked to buy steroids and a cycle cost big bucks for a college kid. The life style was go on a cycle and hit the clubs doing coke and alcohol.
Most won't admit this but this is true. Steroids make you feel alive and confident. It increases your aggression and you feel great. When you go off for a good length of time you start feeling timid and nervous. That's where the addiction comes in. You want that anabolic feeling of well being.
Many through away the pursuit of a career through the pursuit of drugs. It's one of the oldest stories. After cycling on and off for many years they quit. The reasons were various. It was usually health, finances or even arrest. Suddenly they were 30 something with no career and no physique except for the picture they kept in their wallet to show people. In their youth they were famous for their drug muscles everywhere they went and now they were not in the spot light.
I could go on in detail. Maybe I will some day. I also know I will be blasted by some kid who bounces at the local night club loving his steroid life while living in his momma's house.
Yikes! That's really harsh....