Author Topic: Vote - Yes or No - Will ObamaCare pass (Read 2258 times)

YOU are not reputable. This is a perfect example. Since when did the NE Journal of Medicine make ECONOMIC predictions? YOU claimed that docs were planning to quit their jobs if this passed. YOU made these dramatic hysterical postings over and over and over.

Just like the "secret double handshake backwards password" thingy where all the corporations made an agreement to not hire anyone while Obama was Prez.

Again, the simple question of what these docs would do once they quit their jobs remains unanswered and completely avoided by you. Why is that? Why avoid a simple question? Would they work at Autonation? Walmart? Yeah, those places will pay for their kids private school tuition and their country club memberships.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #30 on:** March 22, 2010, 09:59:19 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on March 22, 2010, 09:49:14 AM

YOU are not reputable. This is a perfect example. Since when did the NE Journal of Medicine make ECONOMIC predictions? YOU claimed that docs were planning to quit their jobs if this passed. YOU made these dramatic hysterical postings over and over and over.

Just like the "secret double handshake backwards password" thingy where all the corporations made an agreement to not hire anyone while Obama was Prez.

Again, the simple question of what these docs would do once they quit their jobs remains unanswered and completely avoided by you. Why is that? Why avoid a simple question? Would they work at Autonation? Walmart? Yeah, those places will pay for their kids private school tuition and their country club memberships.

More garbage from you. Yes or no - the NE Journal of Medicine is reputable as a source?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #31 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:06:48 AM »

I don't think it's about whether the NE Journal of Medicine is reputable or not.

Realistically, it's simple. Doctor's don't have another skill. They are Doctor's.

You do what you do... It's like Auto Mechanics all quitting because car prices or gasoline prices go sky high... It's not going to happen (because it didn't and won't ever) because those guys who fix cars do exactly that... They fix cars.

I hate to be the one to mention this... but why is "socialism" when it comes to certain things so bad? The Defense budget is socialist. The transportation budget is socialist... Damn near everything in the federal government is "socialist".

Don't start me on the Nazi or Communist statements... Neither Hitler nor Stalin was trying to help people without health insurance and help them live better lives.

Just moronic statements to make.

Whether or not you like the idea that your tax money is going to healthcare is one thing, but I'd rather it go to Healthcare than to some country in the middle of the desert to be honest.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #32 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:12:36 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 22, 2010, 10:06:48 AM

I don't think it's about whether the NE Journal of Medicine is reputable or not.

Realistically, it's simple. Doctor's don't have another skill. They are Doctor's.

You do what you do... It's like Auto Mechanics all quitting because car prices or gasoline prices go sky high... It's not going to happen (because it didn't and won't ever) because those guys who fix cars do exactly that... They fix cars.

I hate to be the one to mention this... but why is "socialism" when it comes to certain things so bad? The Defense budget is socialist. The transportation budget is socialist... Damn near everything in the federal government is "socialist".

Don't start me on the Nazi or Communist statements... Neither Hitler nor Stalin was trying to help people without health insurance and help them live better lives.

Just moronic statements to make.

Whether or not you like the idea that your tax money is going to healthcare is one thing, but I'd rather it go to Healthcare than to some country in the middle of the desert to be honest.

Here is why - the cost to become a doctor is very high and no one is going to go to medical school an incur such and expense if there is no reward at the end of the path.

Also, this will ensure that the best and brightest dont go into medicine but finance, law, etc.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #33 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:15:43 AM »

I don't know if that's true... People don't just pick a career because of cost or because of how much money they make.

People do what they want. Is money important sure... but it's not the end all be all.

Most people use their interests and aptitude to pick a career, not just a dollar sign.

There is just no correlation really... It's all FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) and has no real base in reality.

Hospitals believe this will help have less people in the hospital now because they'll have easier access to basic medical providers. That's a good thing right?

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #34 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:16:40 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 22, 2010, 09:59:19 AM

More garbage from you. Yes or no - the NE Journal of Medicine is reputable as a source?

Whether they are or are not, or my - or anyone else's - opinion of them are irrelevant to my prior post.

I am SPECIFICALLY calling you out on your drama queen hysterics and typical bullshit claims.

You post up bullshit like that and then when cornered with it, you attempt to deflect and escape by changing the subject all over again.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #35 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:18:39 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 22, 2010, 10:12:36 AM

Here is why - the cost to become a doctor is very high and no one is going to go to medical school an incur such and expense if there is no reward at the end of the path.

A complete contradiction to your last claim.

You are now attempting to equate and rationalize people not going through school as actual doctors who are quitting their jobs since this bill passed.

FAIL!

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #36 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:19:41 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on March 22, 2010, 10:16:40 AM

Whether they are or are not, or my - or anyone else's - opinion of them are irrelevant to my prior post.

I am SPECIFICALLY calling you out on your drama queen hysterics and typical bullshit claims.

You post up bullshit like that and then when cornered with it, you attempt to deflect and escape by changing the subject all over again.

No asshole - I made a claim based on what was reported in the NE journal of Medicine. lets talk about my claim which i backed up and your bogus accusation of me.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #37 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:26:01 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 22, 2010, 10:19:41 AM

No asshole - I made a claim based on what was reported in the NE journal of Medicine. lets talk about my claim which i backed up and your bogus accusation of me.

My accusation was bogus? I plainly called out your fear mongering rhetoric of doctors walking out and quitting their jobs today now that the bill passed. Where is the news for that? Do we have to decode the NE Journal of Medicine to find it?

Spin spin spin.... as much as you want. But you can't change the fact my posts are directly targeting your typical daily posting spree content.

So, where are the quitting doctors?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #38 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:27:51 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on March 22, 2010, 10:26:01 AM

My accusation was bogus? I plainly called out your fear mongering rhetoric of doctors walking out and quitting their jobs today now that the bill passed. Where is the news for that? Do we have to decode the NE Journal of Medicine to find it?

Spin spin spin.... as much as you want. But you can't change the fact my posts are directly targeting your typical daily posting spree content.

So, where are the quitting doctors?

I posted the NE Journal of Medicine info. Take it for what you want. You know more then them, fine,

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #39 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:32:10 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 22, 2010, 10:27:51 AM

I posted the NE Journal of Medicine info. Take it for what you want. You know more then them, fine,

That's it?

You don't believe your own bullshit do you? You simply keep repeating it because you found yourself in a little hole and can't get out. So you keep digging.

If you say it enough times it becomes true? Is that how this works?

So where are these quitter docs going to work? Go back to school and become art students perhaps? Bag groceries at Publix?

You just got shit on and instead of trying to clean yourself up, you instead roll around in it while claiming "it don't stink mom, it really don't"

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #40 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:39:00 AM »

Poll: 46 percent of general practitioners feel Obamacare will force them out or make them want to leave medicine
By: Mark Hemingway
Commentary Staff Writer

03/17/10 9:36 AM PDT

So this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement from the nation's doctors:

46.3% of primary care physicians (family medicine and internal medicine) feel that the passing of health reform will either force them out of medicine or make them want to leave medicine.

Other key findings from the New England Journal of Medicine* poll:

62.7% of physicians feel that health reform is needed but should be implemented in a more targeted, gradual way, as opposed to the sweeping overhaul that is in legislation.

41% of physicians feel that income and practice revenue will “decline or worsen dramatically” with a public option.

30% feel income will “decline or worsen somewhat” with a public option.

(h/t Hot Air)

*UPDATE: NEJM of medicine contacts me to say that the poll was not done by them but "the Medicus Firm, a national physician search firm based in Dallas and Atlanta."

Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/New-England-Journal-of-Medicine--88200387.html#ixzz0ivbhlPC4

tu_holmes · « **Reply #41 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:44:03 AM »

I'm listening to the news right now and there seems to be more then one person who disagrees with this statement 3333.

Believe who you want.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #42 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:46:58 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 22, 2010, 10:44:03 AM

I'm listening to the news right now and there seems to be more then one person who disagrees with this statement 3333.

Believe who you want.

Peggy, Julio, and Henrietta?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #43 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:54:52 AM »

Not really sure... It's just on in the background... I don't really pay attention to what show and sometimes even what channel.

I just listen. That way I feel I'm being unbiased and can just listen to whatever the topic is about without having a preconceived notion.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #44 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:59:32 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 22, 2010, 10:54:52 AM

Not really sure... It's just on in the background... I don't really pay attention to what show and sometimes even what channel.

I just listen. That way I feel I'm being unbiased and can just listen to whatever the topic is about without having a preconceived notion.

Peggy:

Julio:

Henrietta:

tu_holmes · « **Reply #45 on:** March 22, 2010, 11:01:54 AM »

That's even more sad... I'm actually listening to something on right now... hence why I said it's in the background.

Sad that those women are that stupid and sad you think that those clips have a point in this conversation.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #46 on:** March 22, 2010, 11:05:00 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 22, 2010, 11:01:54 AM

That's even more sad... I'm actually listening to something on right now... hence why I said it's in the background.

Sad that those women are that stupid and sad you think that those clips have a point in this conversation.

Why is that? Doesnt it show the mentality of the typical Obama voter and who obama is crafting his message to? People who think they are going to get something for nothing.

I'm not saying it applies to everyone, but a very large demographic of people.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #47 on:** March 22, 2010, 11:07:29 AM »

I don't think it does when it comes to healthcare at all.

I have a great friend who I've known for years who is working on her M.D. (Just got accepted to med school in Miami.) who is one of the biggest healthcare reform people I know.

She's actually upset that it's not more comprehensive and more encompassing.

So she actually is

1. not like your little poster children there.

and

2. Going to become a doctor even WITH healthcare reform.

So she pretty much craps all over your entire philosophy today.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #48 on:** March 22, 2010, 11:11:21 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 22, 2010, 11:07:29 AM

I don't think it does when it comes to healthcare at all.

I have a great friend who I've known for years who is working on her M.D. (Just got accepted to med school in Miami.) who is one of the biggest healthcare reform people I know.

She's actually upset that it's not more comprehensive and more encompassing.

So she actually is

1. not like your little poster children there.

and

2. Going to become a doctor even WITH healthcare reform.

So she pretty much craps all over your entire philosophy today.

I would take Shoot's & Kajes' opinion over someone who has not even practices yet.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #49 on:** March 22, 2010, 11:14:25 AM »

I shoot my own personal experience over someone's opinion piece.

Yes.

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