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Title: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
www.realclearpolitics.co m






General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking

Obama 45, Romney 47

Romney +2



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 44, Romney 45

Romney +1



Wisconsin: Romney vs. Obama

PPP (D)

Obama 47, Romney 48

Romney +1
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2012, 10:32:45 AM
LOL @ bragging about being tied.

Veep bump.  Romney being the economic stud with obama leading the great depression.

bragging about tied.  LMAO.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 21, 2012, 03:32:44 PM
www.realclearpolitics.com






General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking

Obama 45, Romney 47

Romney +2



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 44, Romney 45

Romney +1



Wisconsin: Romney vs. Obama

PPP (D)

Obama 47, Romney 48

Romney +1



I think you need to look again

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2012, 03:56:41 PM
LOL at that NBC poll.  How absurd sampling canm it get? 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 21, 2012, 04:09:43 PM
LOL at that NBC poll.  How absurd sampling canm it get? 
looks like a poll commissioned by nbc and WSJ.  Isn't WSJ owned by murdoch?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2012, 04:29:09 PM
looks like a poll commissioned by nbc and WSJ.  Isn't WSJ owned by murdoch?

And? WSJ seems to be less biased than most of the other trash out there. They at least entertain the ideas of both sides.

LOL @ bragging about being tied.

Veep bump.  Romney being the economic stud with obama leading the great depression.

bragging about tied.  LMAO.

LOL @ you bragging whenever Obama pops up a point or two, even while you never shut the fuck up about the power of the incumbent. Typical dumb c*nt who contradicts himself with nearly every post.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 21, 2012, 06:02:42 PM
And? WSJ seems to be less biased than most of the other trash out there. They at least entertain the ideas of both sides.

LOL @ you bragging whenever Obama pops up a point or two, even while you never shut the fuck up about the power of the incumbent. Typical dumb c*nt who contradicts himself with nearly every post.
And what?  I thought 3333 was alleging bias so I asked a question with what looks like a poll partially funded by WSJ.  It's not a crazy question to ask lol...
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2012, 06:25:37 PM
And then there is this from 3333 favorite site:
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 06:26:17 PM
Great more polls ::)
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: tu_holmes on August 21, 2012, 06:28:34 PM
Great more polls ::)

I agree... How about we all just fucking vote and see what happens.

Damn.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
I agree... How about we all just fucking vote and see what happens.

Damn.

Couldn't agree more. Unfortuanately, many people complain while too few actually vote.

Just so you know, I only posted the poll because 333386 posted his "wishful thinking" poll. Clearly, neither candidate has a landslide win going on in the polls. So frankly, in my opinion, the election could go either way....polls be damned.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: MCWAY on August 21, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
And then there is this from 3333 favorite site:

As I've said before, as soon as Obama gets in the low 40s, some poll out of nowhere (oversampling Dems) is going to put him back or near 50%.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
And then there is this from 3333 favorite site:

Wow, Romney losing across the board.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2012, 08:44:51 PM
Wow, Romney losing across the board.

You really are a fool.   Seriously , for someone w an MBA you are a disgrace.  Do you even know who to read internals of polls? 

The Monmouth poll amd NBC poll are flawed due to the sampling.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2012, 08:47:39 PM
You really are a fool.   Seriously , for someone w an MBA you are a disgrace.  Do you even know who to read internals of polls? 

The Monmouth poll amd NBC poll are flawed due to the sampling.

seriously man, this is a message board.  A bunch of bored dudes debating dumb shit.

You could post the sky was blue... I'd post the sky is every color except blue, Rayleigh approved, and cite the Bush Dept of Education as the reason you erroneously believe the sky is blue.

On most days, not a single fvk is given... we aren't changing history, we're a bunch of middle aged middle schoolers gossiping about the news really.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2012, 08:49:42 PM
I just ashamed I once considered you a credible poster informed on things.  by now even. You should know how to read internals of polls.




seriously man, this is a message board.  A bunch of bored dudes debating dumb shit.

You could post the sky was blue... I'd post the sky is every color except blue, Rayleigh approved, and cite the Bush Dept of Education as the reason you erroneously believe the sky is blue.

On most days, not a single fvk is given... we aren't changing history, we're a bunch of middle aged middle schoolers gossiping about the news really.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
As I've said before, as soon as Obama gets in the low 40s, some poll out of nowhere (oversampling Dems) is going to put him back or near 50%.

I don't believe this is a poll from nowhere, the RealClearPolitics site is where 333386 gets his polling data....supposedly. Anyway it is the link he provided when he recently posted his polling information. Unfortunately, when I clicked that link the polling information did not support what he posted. Boom!

The fact is the polls change each time they are taken. The spread for the most part is not very wide. These two candidates are pretty much neck to neck in this race at this point. Why do you suppose their campaigns are so harsh?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
I just ashamed I once considered you a credible poster informed on things.  by now even. You should know how to read internals of polls.

I like to argue shit.  we could go to DU if I wanted nonstop-liberal talking.  we could go to FR for nonstop repub support.

We are on getbig because we enjoy the clash of beliefs here, complete with amusing insults and unabashed ability to express oneself.  

Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2012, 08:53:35 PM

polls are only as good as TJE sampling and weighting data. 

I don't believe this is a poll from nowhere, the RealClearPolitics site is where 333386 gets his polling data....supposedly. Anyway it is the link he provided when he recently posted his polling information. Unfortunately, when I clicked that link the polling information did not support what he posted. Boom!

The fact is the polls change each time they are taken. The spread for the most part is not very wide. These two candidates are pretty much neck to neck in this race at this point. Why do you suppose their campaigns are so harsh?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2012, 09:00:47 PM
polls are only as good as TJE sampling and weighting data. 


What is TJE sampling?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2012, 09:02:52 PM
What is TJE sampling?

You have to look at the % of demos to repubs in these polls and how they weight it to see if they are accurate.   

RAS and Gallup are the best.   The rest are highly suspect.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2012, 09:14:07 PM
You have to look at the % of demos to repubs in these polls and how they weight it to see if they are accurate.   

RAS and Gallup are the best.   The rest are highly suspect.

One wonders if you would say they are suspect if they showed Romney in the lead.

Not to change the subject, but check this out:
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Primemuscle on August 21, 2012, 09:26:28 PM
No matter how you look at it, Romney is behind. Maybe not by much....but it doesn't take much of a margin to win, does it?

Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: MCWAY on August 21, 2012, 09:57:39 PM
One wonders if you would say they are suspect if they showed Romney in the lead.

Not to change the subject, but check this out:


Michigan's gone back to "toss-up". That is not good news for Team Obama.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Straw Man on August 21, 2012, 10:27:58 PM
I just ashamed I once considered you a credible poster informed on things.  by now even. You should know how to read internals of polls.

this is the least of things you should be ashamed about
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Primemuscle on August 22, 2012, 01:21:43 AM
Michigan's gone back to "toss-up". That is not good news for Team Obama.

Maybe not. What I found interesting is the solid vote spread. Obama really has the lead there.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 22, 2012, 01:44:57 AM
Maybe not. What I found interesting is the solid vote spread. Obama really has the lead there.
The only thing that matters is the electoral map and with the numbers in play in the tossup it's an even race we won't know about until the election is over. Unless we magically see states like Ohio and Florida swing solid one way, we won't know until election day and that's not likely to happen before then.  This electoral map dictates it will be a tight race to the end because those states can swing it the other way.  National polls are kinda pointless considering the present electoral map in play.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: MCWAY on August 22, 2012, 06:42:43 AM
Maybe not. What I found interesting is the solid vote spread. Obama really has the lead there.

Michigan is usually a lock for the Democrats. The fact that it's been (and currently is) a toss-up should be giving Obama fits.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Dos Equis on August 22, 2012, 08:53:21 AM
One wonders if you would say they are suspect if they showed Romney in the lead.

Not to change the subject, but check this out:


That's a pretty big change in the electoral college map.  A complete toss-up.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Hawk on August 22, 2012, 09:24:51 AM
 :-\
(http://www.people-press.org/files/2012/07/7-12-12-5.png)
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: dario73 on August 22, 2012, 11:51:09 AM
:-\
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 ::)

June 28-July 9, 2012.  Try again.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep for Romney in all polls - including Rasmussen - VINCE????
Post by: Hawk on August 22, 2012, 10:11:23 PM
::)

June 28-July 9, 2012.  Try again.
::) ::)

Are you suggesting that since July 9th the Romney campaign has done anything to gain ground in the swing states? If so, post your proof.
Put up or shut up.

Nate Silver has Obama's likelihood of winning at 70% as of August 22nd.  ;)