Gallup Poll: Pro-Choice Support Hits All-Time Low

[Straw Man]

Most libertarians used to be pro-choice, but Ron Paul has brought a bunch of pro-lifers into the libertarian movement now, so I THINK it's more evenly split now.

IMO, the legitimate libertarian position on abortion:

The proper groundwork for analysis of abortion is in every man’s absolute right of self-ownership. This implies immediately that every woman has the absolute right to her own body, that she has absolute dominion over her body and everything within it. This includes the fetus. Most fetuses are in the mother’s womb because the mother consents to this situation, but the fetus is there by the mother’s freely-granted consent. But should the mother decide that she does not want the fetus there any longer, then the fetus becomes a parasitic “invader” of her person, and the mother has the perfect right to expel this invader from her domain. Abortion should be looked upon, not as “murder” of a living person, but as the expulsion of an unwanted invader from the mother’s body.[2] Any laws restricting or prohibiting abortion are therefore invasions of the rights of mothers.

- Murray Rothbard, "The Ethics of Liberty" Chapter 14 http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics/fourteen.asp



An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).

Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?

- Ayn Rand, "Of Living Death" http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/abortion.html#order_1

would you have any limits in regards to a time frame that a woman could get an abortion ?

Also, just curious, has there been any modern society/government based on the libertarian ideals?

[howardroark]

would you have any limits in regards to a time frame that a woman could get an abortion ?

Nope.

Also, just curious, has there been any modern society/government based on the libertarian ideals?

Nope, but countries with greater economic freedom (which certainly is a libertarian ideal) tend to perform much better than those with less:

[Straw Man]

Nope.

Nope, but countries with greater economic freedom (which certainly is a libertarian ideal) tend to perform much better than those with less:

so you would have no problem if a woman wanted to ge an abortion in the 8 or 9th month of her pregnancy

regarding the chart from 2001, how was "economic freedom" defined ?

[howardroark]

so you would have no problem if a woman wanted to ge an abortion in the 8 or 9th month of her pregnancy

No problem.

regarding the chart from 2001, how was "economic freedom" defined ?

Obviously it's impossible to quantify freedom, but the attempts used by indices of economic freedom come close: http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/index/pdf/2011/Index2011_Methodology.pdf

[Straw Man]

No problem.

Obviously it's impossible to quantify freedom, but the attempts used by indices of economic freedom come close: http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/index/pdf/2011/Index2011_Methodology.pdf

and no problem with polygamy either ?

[tonymctones]

Howard would you be ok with the father not paying any child support in return for giving up his legal right?