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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #125 on: May 17, 2012, 07:22:14 PM »


Seriously loco, you are being pretty pathetic, kind of like a little cry baby bitch.  KVJ, remember that one?

You forgot to post the footnote in your link:

Footnotes:

    1 Corinthians 6:9 That is, catamites

What 's a Catamite?  a boy who has a sexual relationship with a man.

cat·a·mite
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noun:  a boy or youth who is in a sexual relationship with a man.


And that's not homosexuality?  LOL    ;D

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #126 on: May 17, 2012, 07:22:51 PM »
Homosexuals now trying to use the Bible to justify their lifestyle.   Good luck with that! 

Matthew 19:4-5
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’
5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?

Leviticus 18:22
Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Romans 1:26-27
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

9 Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality,(a)
10 no thieves, greedy people, drunkards, verbally abusive people, or swindlers will inherit God’s kingdom.

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 a.   1 Corinthians 6:9 Lit adulterers, passive homosexual partners, active homosexual partners


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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #127 on: May 17, 2012, 07:24:25 PM »
And that's not homosexuality?  LOL    ;D

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You are really asking that question?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Sorry loco, i didn't mean to do this to you.  Frankly i thought you could put up a good legit argument and it wouldn't affect your faith.


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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #128 on: May 17, 2012, 07:26:52 PM »
Its amazing how much of a little cry baby you are acting like.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #129 on: May 17, 2012, 07:27:16 PM »
You are really asking that question?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Sorry loco, i didn't mean to do this to you.  Frankly i thought you could put up a good legit argument and it wouldn't affect your faith.



A male having sex with another male is not homosexuality?    ::)

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #130 on: May 17, 2012, 07:29:11 PM »
A male having sex with another male is not homosexuality?    ::)

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Go back and re-read the original post.  

And IF you want to engage in a adult discussion I am more than happy to, But stop this ad hom or forget it.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #131 on: May 17, 2012, 07:39:17 PM »
Go back and re-read the original post.  

And IF you want to engage in a adult discussion I am more than happy to, But stop this ad hom or forget it.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #132 on: May 17, 2012, 07:42:24 PM »
Troll    ;D

IF you are right, doesn't God deserve a better representative?

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #133 on: May 17, 2012, 07:42:51 PM »
OzmO answering a very simple question:



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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #134 on: May 17, 2012, 07:44:19 PM »
IF you are right, doesn't God deserve a better representative?

He deserves a more mature representative lol.  What a cry baby. 

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #135 on: May 17, 2012, 07:44:25 PM »
IF you are right, doesn't God deserve a better representative?

Are you saying that I am not a good representative just for calling a troll a troll?  

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #136 on: May 17, 2012, 07:48:39 PM »
Its amazing how much of a little cry baby you are acting like.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #137 on: May 17, 2012, 07:49:21 PM »
Are you saying that I am not a good representative just for calling a troll a troll?  

No. I'm saying you are not a good representative because you are not putting in the effort, time, patience, kindness, etc.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #138 on: May 17, 2012, 08:16:16 PM »

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #139 on: May 17, 2012, 08:16:54 PM »
No. I'm saying you are not a good representative because you are not putting in the effort, time, patience, kindness, etc.

I do not feed the troll.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #140 on: May 17, 2012, 11:48:46 PM »
Typical, loco acting like a little drama queen again when he gets overwhelmed in debate.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #141 on: May 18, 2012, 03:25:31 AM »
Typical, loco acting like a little drama queen again when he gets overwhelmed in debate.

Typical OzmO troll   ;D

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #142 on: May 18, 2012, 03:26:19 AM »
Even an honest, atheist Bible scholar(yes they exist) would never deny that the Bible clearly says that homosexuality is a sin.


New International Version (NIV)

Matthew 19:4-5
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’
5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?

Leviticus 18:22
Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Romans 1:26-27
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

1 Corinthians 6:9
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men

1 Timothy 1:8-10
8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.
9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #143 on: May 18, 2012, 07:44:41 AM »
Finding more translations to suit your beliefs.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #144 on: May 18, 2012, 07:54:01 AM »
Finding more translations to suit your beliefs.

Yes, OzmO, the many large teams of multinational, multilingual, interdenominational translators, scholars, linguists, historians, archeologists, etc. that were involved in giving us the KJV, NKJV, NIV, HCSB, Reina-Valera(RVR), etc. over the centuries and recent decades were all in on some dishonest, homophobic conspiracy.   ::)


1 Corintios 6:9
Reina-Valera 1995 (RVR1995)

9 ¿No sabéis que los injustos no heredarán el reino de Dios? No os engañéis: ni los fornicarios, ni los idólatras, ni los adúlteros, ni los afeminados, ni los homosexuales,


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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #145 on: May 18, 2012, 07:55:12 AM »
Yes, OzmO, the many large teams of multinational, multilingual, interdenominational translators, scholars, linguists, historians, archeologists, etc. that were involved in giving us the KJV, NKJV, NIV, HCSB, Reina-Valera(RVR), etc. over the centuries and recent decades were all in on some dishonest, homophobic conspiracy.   ::)

1 Corintios 6:9
Reina-Valera 1995 (RVR1995)
9 ¿No sabéis que los injustos no heredarán el reino de Dios? No os engañéis: ni los fornicarios, ni los idólatras, ni los adúlteros, ni los afeminados, ni los homosexuales,
Keep on trolling!    ;D

Not what I am saying  ::)

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #146 on: May 18, 2012, 10:20:11 AM »


Seriously loco, you are being pretty pathetic, kind of like a little cry baby bitch.  KVJ, remember that one?

You forgot to post the footnote in your link:

Footnotes:

    1 Corinthians 6:9 That is, catamites

What 's a Catamite?  a boy who has a sexual relationship with a man.

cat·a·mite
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noun:  a boy or youth who is in a sexual relationship with a man.

Which is different than 2 men having a sexual relationship.  And in this verse, the BOY is unrighteous not the man.  Interesting lol.

Let's look at the KVJ version:

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

ef·fem·i·nate
   [adj. ih-fem-uh-nit; v. ih-fem-uh-neyt] Show IPA adjective, verb, ef·fem·i·nat·ed, ef·fem·i·nat·ing.
adjective
1.
(of a man or boy) having traits, tastes, habits, etc., traditionally considered feminine, as softness or delicacy.

Interesting isn't it?  Looks like intellectual dishonesty here among interpretors

Clearly they are talking about boys who act like girls not going to heaven.

They are NOT clearly talking about homosexuals and NOT clearly saying homosexuality is a sin.


Once again, Ozmo, you duck one simple point which skewers your position.

Sex outside of marriage: SIN!

Marriage components: Male and Female.

It doesn't get much simpler than that.

So, a boy-man sexual relationship is outside those paramaters. A man-man sexual relationship is outside those parameters.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #147 on: May 18, 2012, 06:38:02 PM »
Once again, Ozmo, you duck one simple point which skewers your position.

Sex outside of marriage: SIN!

Marriage components: Male and Female.

It doesn't get much simpler than that.

So, a boy-man sexual relationship is outside those paramaters. A man-man sexual relationship is outside those parameters.

Incorrect.

You are not getting what i am saying.  A man on man relationship being a sin is not clearly stated in the Bible.  It is simply suggested in a murky unclear way.  Thou salt not kill is clearly stated.  Homosexual relationships are not.  (no need for me to re-post my arguments)

PS: by the same logic used in many of the arguments against mine, so is eating shrimp.

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #148 on: May 18, 2012, 08:28:02 PM »
Incorrect.

You are not getting what i am saying.  A man on man relationship being a sin is not clearly stated in the Bible.  It is simply suggested in a murky unclear way.  Thou salt not kill is clearly stated.  Homosexual relationships are not.  (no need for me to re-post my arguments)

PS: by the same logic used in many of the arguments against mine, so is eating shrimp.

There's nothing murky about it. Lev. 18 and 20 are as plain as day on that issue.

As for your shrimp comparison, let's see:

Penalty for eating shrimp: Quarantine for 12-24 hours

Penalty for homosexuality (i.e. a man lying with a man as he would lie with a woman)......DEATH!!!

Hmmmm...which one was the bigger offense?

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Re: Author: What the Bible really says about homosexuality
« Reply #149 on: May 19, 2012, 05:20:29 AM »
There's nothing murky about it. Lev. 18 and 20 are as plain as day on that issue.

As for your shrimp comparison, let's see:

Penalty for eating shrimp: Quarantine for 12-24 hours

Penalty for homosexuality (i.e. a man lying with a man as he would lie with a woman)......DEATH!!!

Hmmmm...which one was the bigger offense?

and if you eat a homosexual shrimp?
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