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I was wondering if anyone here has fasted for an extended period of time (7+ days, water only).
Ever heard of any pro's doing this?
If you have what were your experiences?
how long did you fast for?
how did it affect your lifting?
how did it affect your cardio?
how much mass did you lose?
how much fat did you lose?
ect.........
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Frank Zane and some of the others would do mini fasts throughout the day sometimes to change things up. They would go as long as they could without eating between meals at times.
Not a good idea.
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not a good idea
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Not doing it for physical health reasons.... have my spiritual reasons....just wanted some info on what to expect
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you will lose fat and muscle in even amounts, not a good trade off. Your metabolism will slow down and your energy levels will plummet. There may be some medical benefits to fasting but 7 days straight is too much. Also, you need salt, vitamins and minerals.
I've gone 3 weeks without eating (not by choice) and I can tell you it's not fun. You reach a point where the hunger goes away but you're never clear headed and you get bouts of dizziness.
It's taught me not to be wasteful with food and take it for granted.
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Not doing it for physical health reasons.... have my spiritual reasons....just wanted some info on what to expect
Your god Does not Exist. Don`t waste your time.
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I've gone 3 weeks without eating (not by choice) and I can tell you it's not fun.
May I ask why?
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Whether you believe in god or not is your preference, i am not on here to judge you for beliefs but to give you some of my reasoning for it :
Fasting is a biblical way to truly humble yourself in the sight of God (Psalm 35:13; Ezra 8:21). King David said, "I humble myself through fasting."
Fasting was an expected discipline in both the Old and New Testament eras. For example, Moses fasted at least two recorded forty-day periods. Jesus fasted 40 days and Fasting is Assumed by the New Testament: When Jesus spoke about fasting, he didn't say if you fast, but "when you fast" (Matthew 6:16). Our Lord assumes that Christians will fast. And from the rest of the books in the New Testament we know that they did.
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i did 15 day water fasts and 21 day juice fasts in the past!
you should lose about 3/4 of a lb aday unless you add 1 hr jogs like a i did, so i lost a lb of fat a day(on the waterfast)!
1 lb = 3500 calories, my body burns about 2200 to 2400 aday just from being alive...
ive kept my weight in check , so i hopefully never have to go through that again(the water fast)
juice fast isnt hard at all in my opinion!
doing a water fast really brings to light what many people have and had to go through being a pow !
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did you work out at all or do cardio while on the water only fast?.....if so how much?
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did you work out at all or do cardio while on the water only fast?.....if so how much?
up to day 5 on the water fast i was able to do my full workout and push the same weight, by day 6 the weakness set in and i switched to just cardio!
15 days is nuts and some peple do 30 days and up to try and cure diseases...
youll be dying by day 3 so youll see what i mean...
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get a book on fasting before you do it , or at least read some articles on the net, also many exsperts advise trying a juice fast first to ease your way in to a water fast....
fresh juice(not canned or bottled on a store shelf) has all the vitamins, minerals and enzymes you need
some suggest 5 days on juice 2 days water and so on...
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Strange that members of an otherwise totally rational culture would do something crazy like fasting.
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I was wondering if anyone here has fasted for an extended period of time (7+ days, water only).
Ever heard of any pro's doing this?
If you have what were your experiences?
how long did you fast for?
how did it affect your lifting?
how did it affect your cardio?
how much mass did you lose?
how much fat did you lose?
ect.........
Fasting for a week = muscle suicide.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I did a watermelon fast for 2days(kidneys) and then 3 more days of just water and the did a liver--gallbladder flush...So basically 5 days of fasting however for the first 2 days, i ate about 30 pounds of water melon...So f king bloated and lived on the toilet....
About 3 days after doing all this and my a-hole starting to lose its soreness, I never felt better in my life...
When fasting for a long period of time, your body gets rid of alot of toxins(mostly what we keep putting back into our bodies thru eating)
I think everyone should do a 5 day fast atleast once a year.....
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Fasting for a week = muscle suicide.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
not at all...thats the problem with us bodybuilders, we live everyday mirror to mirror---while being in a state where your muscle is weak and completely flat for a week doesn't mean you lose much of it...The rebond afterward more then makes up for any mind game your body plays with you without food...Well worth it...
After my fast and flush, the whites of my eyes were never so white in my life...skin looked and felt much better...Just an overall feeling of well being...Although 3 weeks later i f cked all that up with a 3 day drinking binge but atleast my liver was in better shape going into the binge then would have been without it :)
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Not doing it for physical health reasons.... have my spiritual reasons....just wanted some info on what to expect
the hallucinations are worth it alone ;)
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your body doesnt go after the muscle until all the glycogen an fat are gone for the most part!
after fasting for 15 days i had exactly the same amount of muscle mass left after 1 week of carbing and reloading my protien stores
i used the bod pod before and after to assess these values....
i was at 15% bf at the start , so i had plenty of fat for the body to live off....
actually if you overload in calories for 15 days after your hrmones nearly double thier normal value and you can add several lbs of muscle during that time....
this was called anabolic buurst cycling in a book written by a swedish research scientist who did in vitro studies on this....although his studies were dropping you cal. to about 1200 a day for 15 days then slamming 4000 or more for 15 straight!
this study wasnt based around bodybuilding , but more on how prehistoric man survived famine...
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Your god Does not Exist.
Mine does!
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IMO, any "spiritual" belief that requires fasting, which is nothing but harmful to the human constitution, is fuccked up.
::)!!
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Yes I have eaten "fast" a number of times :-X
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Yes I have eaten "fast" a number of times :-X
I hd a mcgriddle for breakfast. Damn I missed those.
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not at all...thats the problem with us bodybuilders, we live everyday mirror to mirror---while being in a state where your muscle is weak and completely flat for a week doesn't mean you lose much of it...The rebond afterward more then makes up for any mind game your body plays with you without food...Well worth it...
After my fast and flush, the whites of my eyes were never so white in my life...skin looked and felt much better...Just an overall feeling of well being...Although 3 weeks later i f cked all that up with a 3 day drinking binge but atleast my liver was in better shape going into the binge then would have been without it :)
Well, if your goal is to dramatically prolong your youth and to live as long as you possibly can, then eating the least amount of calories daily is the way to go. Eating very little dramatically decreases oxidative stress and boosts DNA-repair enzymes. But for increasing muscle size and strengh, starving yourself is stupid. Show me a guy who's become truly huge while eating less than 4 000 calories a day, and you'll be showing me the eigh wonder of the world. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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If you do fast for fitness reasons vice spiritual, I would suggest an all fruit and veggie fast. It would be like this:
meal 1: Eat a bowl of fruits (i.e.: pineapple, apple, strawberry, melon(s), grapes, etc.)
meal 2: Green salad (med.) use apple cider vinegar and Safflower oil for dressing (2tbl spn each)
meal 3: Bowl of fruit
meal 4: Green salad
meal 5: Bowl of fruit
Your supplements can be Amino acids, Colostrum, Multi-vitamin, EFA-CLA complex pill.
During your workout drink Apple Cider vinegar mixed with L-Carnitine and water (you'll reek but who cares)
This is good for fitness as it cleans your colon and stomach of rotten meat, and it fills your body with antioxitdants, AND it's a great way to lose fat while maintaining muscle and energy.
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Well, if your goal is to dramatically prolong your youth and to live as long as you possibly can, then eating the least amount of calories daily is the way to go. Eating very little dramatically decreases oxidative stress and boosts DNA-repair enzymes. But for increasing muscle size and strengh, starving yourself is stupid. Show me a guy who's become truly huge while eating less than 4 000 calories a day, and you'll be showing me the eigh wonder of the world. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
i hear what your saying...But fasting for a week once a year would for sure do more good then bad even if your goal is to put on muscle through out the year...Just the cleaning out of the body is worth its weight in gold. Especially if hormones are involved...
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Fasting is st00pid!
If you insist on being st00pid anyway, at least go with a "modified protein-sparing fast" (i.e., eat(or drink) protein), or be prepared to lose a TON of muscle.
I agree. Fasting has no place for someone who wants to put on or maintain muscle. It also has no place for the healthy person.
I was referring to fasting in the medical sense for the sick. There is scientific literature on fasting to eliminate fever, inflammation, infection and other symptoms from the inside out.
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May I ask why?
I was cut short of funds back in my college days. I had too much pride (and not enough brains) to ask for money. Lost close to 20 lbs. :(
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Goddamn bible people. I don't have words. That is the most stupid and unnecessary I have ever heard.
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Goddamn bible people. I don't have words. That is the most stupid and unnecessary I have ever heard.
I have to agree, if you're not doing it for medical reasons then it's just pointless.
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it gets you sliced and diced
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did you know that cancer begins in your colon? all sorts of illnesses begin in your colon. flushing your body out has alot of medical benefits....quit attacking my beliefs and consider it for a minute...the second you found out i was doing it for religious reasons you had a major issue with it...your disbelief is your right, and my reasoning is my right. if i wanted your religious opinion i would of posted this on a bible website not get big!
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I just fasted. I ate a Big Mac in less than 1 1/2 minutes.
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The crazy thing about muscle is, if you work out it grows back again!!!
So go ahead and fast if that's your thing. So what if you lose some muscle. Some of you go on like "muscle suicide" is akin to dying or something, sheesh. ::)
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Can't recall the specific muscle mag, but I believe about a year ago an issue came out where one of the authors went on a supervised fast under the guidance of a doctor that studies the effects of starvation on the body. What I took away from the article is there is absolutley no benefit, and plenty of ill effects of fasting.
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The crazy thing about muscle is, if you work out it grows back again!!!
So go ahead and fast if that's your thing. So what if you lose some muscle. Some of you go on like "muscle suicide" is akin to dying or something, sheesh. ::)
Ghandi still had big muscles and he was always fasting.
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thanks dan-o
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Being religous is one thing James,I can respesct that but I`m sure baby jesus dosent want you to fuckong starve yourself just for him.
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They say fasting brings your soul to a more alert level. Thats what I was told, that you become more aware spiritually.
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They say fasting brings your soul to a more alert level. Thats what I was told, that you become more aware spiritually.
14 ¶ And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying,
15 Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.
16 And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.
17 Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.
18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.
19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?
20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
From a purely bodybuilding standpoint maybe fasting could be considered kind of pointless but there's more to life than bodybuilding!
Anyway, guys like Bill Pearl and Andreas Cahling (just to name two off the top of my head) believed that fasting from time to time was beneficial to cleanse and recharge the body.
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Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
- Matthew 6:16-18 (KJV)
www.musclemissions.org
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did you know that cancer begins in your colon? all sorts of illnesses begin in your colon. flushing your body out has alot of medical benefits....quit attacking my beliefs and consider it for a minute...the second you found out i was doing it for religious reasons you had a major issue with it...your disbelief is your right, and my reasoning is my right. if i wanted your religious opinion i would of posted this on a bible website not get big!
some of these guys are clueless...Someone should ask Tom Prince to get on here and talk about flushes and/or fasting and what it does to help rid your body of toxins...Some of these guys here think they are doing something for their body by using 2 grams of gear and using a on over the counter vitamin to protect their liver...Like ALA while blasting 1500mgs of test is going to do a damn thing...They believe half the sh t from people who are selling these things....
what they need to do is have a long talk to cancer patients and or guys like Prince (although he probably won't say much) ...And for guys saying that fasting should be done only for medical reasons, c'on its all about prevention esp. if your putting stress on the body with large amounts of protein/hormones and esp. creatine..
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here's what i did in college:
150 hours of no sleep:
33 genuflects (lunges) and 33 push ups every 33 minutes for 6 days straight.
meals: 3 fruit cocktails a day, 3 cups of water a day.
went in at 210 on sunday night. saturday morning, weighed 190 and was pissing brown. it was at the beginning of august, so it was hot and humid, with no a/c of course.
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here's what i did in college:
150 hours of no sleep:
33 genuflects (lunges) and 33 push ups every 33 minutes for 6 days straight.
meals: 3 fruit cocktails a day, 3 cups of water a day.
went in at 210 on sunday night. saturday morning, weighed 190 and was pissing brown. it was at the beginning of august, so it was hot and humid, with no a/c of course.
damn thats crazy...