Author Topic: What would it take.... (Read 3384 times)

boxerz1 · « **on:** November 11, 2006, 07:59:21 PM »

I scrapped a little in highschool and was in wrestling for 4 years. What would it take for me to get into MMA?? Seriously. No bull shit here. Any advice welcome or criticism welcome..

RAMPAGE23 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 11, 2006, 08:38:11 PM »

Im no expert but i reckon basiclly be a allround fighter. great stand up, great ground work, and great stanima. Proberly the more experince guys on here will be able to go into more detail. good luck mate.

boxerz1 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2006, 09:01:53 PM »

thankx rampage23, I think I will try to go to an MMA Studio that is around and hour and a half from where I live. The worst part is I work a rotating schedule with four days on and 4 days off every week so some weeks I wouldn't be able to train as much as others. But I appreciate the comment

RAMPAGE23 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2006, 09:15:24 PM »

No problems mate. Yeah going to the mma studio is a good option. I will give you a chance to test ya skills a bit with people that are practiced in mma.

Wombat · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:07:51 AM »

It all boils down to how old you are...That is such a determaning factor...Under 30, go for it...Over 30 try going to night school and keep to watching cable...

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:33:16 AM »

You have a wrestling backround so that's a start, all you need is your submission element and a striking element. I would say at least a year of boxing/kickboxing and a year of Bjj before stepping into a ring or cage.

Fury · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2006, 09:18:21 AM »

Quote from: *ChuteBoxe* on November 12, 2006, 01:33:16 AM

You have a wrestling backround so that's a start, all you need is your submission element and a striking element. I would say at least a year of boxing/kickboxing and a year of Bjj before stepping into a ring or cage.

I agree. After a solid year, you should be alright to step into a fight. Shouldn't have trouble finding people around your experience level.

BEAST 8692 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:27:36 AM »

to be honest, you've really got to have to be very very good at at least one discipline to be successful in the business.

imo it is going to take a lot more than a year to become good at striking which basically means boxing skills. you must be either very good with your hands or extremely good on the ground/ shoot before seriously considering it. kicks, knees are important but nowhere near as important as hand skills (including gnp and elbows).

a very important factor is experience. how many quality fights have you had? what do you do when you get hit? do you remain calm when hit, taken down, locked up, etc.

first move would be to attend classes with those that actually compete and spar with them as much as possible. time is of the essence.

Fury · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:29:41 AM »

Quote from: BEAST 8692 on November 12, 2006, 10:27:36 AM

to be honest, you've really got to have to be very very good at at least one discipline to be successful in the business.

imo it is going to take a lot more than a year to become good at striking which basically means boxing skills. you must be either very good with your hands or extremely good on the ground/ shoot before seriously considering it. kicks, knees are important but nowhere near as important as hand skills (including gnp and elbows).

a very important factor is experience. how many quality fights have you had? what do you do when you get hit? do you remain calm when hit, taken down, locked up, etc.

first move would be to attend classes with those that actually compete and spar with them as much as possible. time is of the essence.

You can almost always find an amateur fight against someone with roughly the same experience as you.

BEAST 8692 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:53:17 AM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on November 12, 2006, 10:29:41 AM

You can almost always find an amateur fight against someone with roughly the same experience as you.

true, but most of these events end up mismatched and you end up getting a novice to play cannon fodder to someone wanting to move up.

imo if you haven't spent some serious time training up/experienced in some discipline the you could lose heart very quickly and get badly hurt in the process, but each to their own.

Fury · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:01:45 PM »

Quote from: BEAST 8692 on November 12, 2006, 10:53:17 AM

true, but most of these events end up mismatched and you end up getting a novice to play cannon fodder to someone wanting to move up.

imo if you haven't spent some serious time training up/experienced in some discipline the you could lose heart very quickly and get badly hurt in the process, but each to their own.

Yeah, it depends on the person, too. Hell, he could have some God given ability to pick the stuff up quick and be ready in a year. It all comes down to the person and what they feel they're capable of.

boxerz1 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:34:10 PM »

You are wise beyond your years, all of you. I appreciate all the advice. Since I live in the middle of friggin nowhere, it will be hard to find classes. I just found out that the Kickboxing/MMA school that is about 1 1/2 hours from where I live closed down last month. There is Taekwando classes 1/2 from where I live and Kickboxing schools in another city that is 1 1/2 hours from where I live but I would only be able to train 4 days a week about every 3 weeks. Since I work a rotating schedule, 4 days on 4 days off- 12 hours at night......It will be hard to stay in the game of schooling in such classes. Do you recomend buying a heavy bag and speed bag to place in my home rec area to practice on when not at class?

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Fury · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:43:49 PM »

Quote from: boxerz1 on November 12, 2006, 01:34:10 PM

You are wise beyond your years, all of you. I appreciate all the advice. Since I live in the middle of friggin nowhere, it will be hard to find classes. I just found out that the Kickboxing/MMA school that is about 1 1/2 hours from where I live closed down last month. There is Taekwando classes 1/2 from where I live and Kickboxing schools in another city that is 1 1/2 hours from where I live but I would only be able to train 4 days a week about every 3 weeks. Since I work a rotating schedule, 4 days on 4 days off- 12 hours at night......It will be hard to stay in the game of schooling in such classes. Do you recomend buying a heavy bag and speed bag to place in my home rec area to practice on when not at class??

Definetely, better to practice by yourself than not be practicing at all.

torquemada · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:06:51 PM »

When you say the middle of nowhere, what do you mean? I'd be surprised if there isn't a decent school within a couple of hours. Go a couple times a week and find people to drill with at home...

boxerz1 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:09:32 PM »

Quote from: torquemada on November 12, 2006, 02:06:51 PM

When you say the middle of nowhere, what do you mean? I'd be surprised if there isn't a decent school within a couple of hours. Go a couple times a week and find people to drill with at home...

I live in the Middle of Nebraska, the nearest taekwondo studio is 30 minutes, the nearest kickboxing is about an hour and a half.. Where I live all the towns within 30 minutes of me have 1000 people or less. It is like the fucking gobe desert.. not a sole within sight.....

Scimowser · « **Reply #15 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:53:22 PM »

i think youre forgetting motivation and determination. The 2 most important factors IMO. You have to have the self drive to get up every day and give it your all, especially when theres nobody to go running with or hit the weights with etc. Hone your skills when youre alone in your house, at the park - wherever you find yourself. Practice makes perfect

boxerz1 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2006, 03:01:14 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on November 12, 2006, 02:53:22 PM

i think youre forgetting motivation and determination. The 2 most important factors IMO. You have to have the self drive to get up every day and give it your all, especially when theres nobody to go running with or hit the weights with etc. Hone your skills when youre alone in your house, at the park - wherever you find yourself. Practice makes perfect

Believe me, I have the motivation, I live 10 miles from the nearest town, remember, in nebraska, all there is to see is hills and cows, I work out at home 4 to 5 days a week with a home gym and i am buying a heavy bag to get started. My wife is my biggest allie in my training so far, she pushes me to get back into shape and try my hardest. We went to an IFC event friday night and she was just in awe at the fighters. She wants me to do my best and she inspires me every day...

lilwoday09smb · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2006, 04:15:21 PM »

well the wrestling will help once you get over the fear of being on your back, i wrestled in highschool and in college. bjj was difficult the first few months but know its starting to flow, depending o your wrestling stance stand up might be difficult i had to switch my stance because i shoot with my right leg forward. i love stand up and its coming along nice. i saw try to get to a boxing. kickboxing school and a bjj school. but if all else fails get some guys together invest and start rolling and weatching videos. anything will help until location becomes beter. but its hard and u will have to give up alot. ecspeccially in the weight room, ive had to cut my workouts down to 3 days a week so the other 4 days i casn train. i love the weight room so it was hard but the conditioning and mma workouts actually make me look better. best of luck

torquemada · « **Reply #18 on:** November 12, 2006, 04:22:41 PM »

Quote from: boxerz1 on November 12, 2006, 03:01:14 PM

My wife is my biggest allie in my training so far, she pushes me to get back into shape and try my hardest. We went to an IFC event friday night and she was just in awe at the fighters. She wants me to do my best and she inspires me every day...

That's a big asset. After my fight, my wife begged me to quit after my first fight.

Of course, I got KTFO!

arigato · « **Reply #19 on:** November 12, 2006, 07:09:32 PM »

Quote from: boxerz1 on November 11, 2006, 07:59:21 PM

I scrapped a little in highschool and was in wrestling for 4 years. What would it take for me to get into MMA?? Seriously. No bull shit here. Any advice welcome or criticism welcome..

i think you should ask this question in mma forum... no?

Fury · « **Reply #20 on:** November 12, 2006, 07:56:21 PM »

Quote from: arigato on November 12, 2006, 07:09:32 PM

i think you should ask this question in mma forum... no?

There are plenty of people here who know more than the typical Sherdog retard.

arigato · « **Reply #21 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:09:14 AM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on November 12, 2006, 07:56:21 PM

There are plenty of people here who know more than the typical Sherdog retard.

who know more about what? fighting? or fighting without fighting? or are u talking about kids who know everything about MMA but never stepped a foot inside of a ring?

BEAST 8692 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 13, 2006, 04:41:15 AM »

Quote from: arigato on November 13, 2006, 12:09:14 AM

who know more about what? fighting? or fighting without fighting? or are u talking about kids who know everything about MMA but never stepped a foot inside of a ring?

we are obviously talking about competitive fighting tough guy. too hard to understand then go watch a chuck norris movie or something and act all hard.

who's to say who has actually stepped in the ring or who hasn't, as is the case on a sherdog forum btw. fact is most fighters have been cross training for a few hundred years now and the smart people acknowledge that carefully constructed weight training assists fighting.

the same vice versa. bbers now compete in the mma.

so when you do your math, and here's where you might need some help, you see why we have mma people on bbing forums.

boxerz1 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 13, 2006, 05:49:00 AM »

Thanks Guys, I appreciate all the advice...Except for that arigato fellow, he turned the thread into a Adonis thread by critisizing everything you all were saying. I am buying a heavy bag after my 4day rotation of work on thursday when we go to the city. What size do you recomend??? Ive see 50-60-70-100lb heavy bags, which one is the best to use?

?? I see that the sportinggoods store I go to has Golds Gym heavy bags and boxing equip on sale.. Whats best to get started. If Im starting to sound stupid, well thats cause I am. I just want to get the RIGHT and BEST Info I can

THANKS A BUNCH

Fury · « **Reply #24 on:** November 13, 2006, 06:33:29 AM »

I like the 100 lb bags for kicks and the like. Any lighter and you're going to wreck the thing, in my opinion. If you look around, you can find a good heavy bag used for really cheap. Some people waste the money on them and then use the thing once in their lifetime and end up selling it.